Halal burgers are discrimination - France

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This is outrageous. :raging::raging::raging::raging::raging::raging::raging:

A French council has lodged a complaint against a fast food chain that serves only meat that conforms with Islamic dietary laws at a local branch.


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Is this the only burger chain in the whole of France?

What a (cunning, fear-mongering) fool this particular politician is. Can't he just waste council money in the traditional way, by resurfacing perfectly flat roads?
 
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This is incredibly ridiculous.
Vegetarian restaurants all over the world discriminate meat-eaters then.
 
I went to Hyde Park today, in London. Anyone who's been there will know the overwhelming Muslim population. They have Islamic shops, Arabic signs and Subway even has a notice in it saying it sells Halal. Well, I thought about it: would I mind eating Halal beef or Halal chicken? I deduced I actually couldn't care less whether it's Halal or not, it most likely tastes the same. So yeah, ridiculous.
 
This is the kind of stuff that can really tick you off, its discrimintation that they're picking on halal food places and not kosher or vegetarian joints
 
I don't think they're picking on the fact that the outlet is retailing Halal foodstuffs, but just that in doing so, the company has moved to withdraw all non-Halal meat which is what has sparked the controversy.

I think what they're calling for is Halal food, alongside that which was there before it. It does make sense really. That way it caters for the whole community.
 
nocturnal said:
I don't think they're picking on the fact that the outlet is retailing Halal foodstuffs, but just that in doing so, the company has moved to withdraw all non-Halal meat which is what has sparked the controversy.

I think what they're calling for is Halal food, alongside that which was there before it. It does make sense really. That way it caters for the whole community.
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I'm not sure but when mcdonalds had similar plans, they said that all halal ones would be within range of a non-halal food place. Halal can't be cooked alongside non-halal due to contamination, I know because most takeaways don't give a crap about hygiene and cooking standards
 
lol this is good, from now on all Muslims living in the west can also complain that virtually all resturants are discriminatory towards Muslims because they dont offer a halal menu, now thats discrimination dont you think? Muslims make up the second largest faith in Europe, and they the fastest growing demograph, so why dont resturants start to conform with this reality and serve halal food in every single resturant? i say discrimination!!!!!!!!!!!! why are Muslims forced to eat from one none-halal menu only? no fair.

oh yes, two can play this game.
 
Well, if they can't give the Muslim community firm assurances that such clearly separated cooking practices between Halal and Non-halal food will be implemented, then perhaps they ought to decide upon one option. Either stick with Halal foods only, or revert back to previous company policy and altogether withdraw Halal products.

Im sure the Muslims there have their own butcheries and restaurants just like we have numerous amounts of them in the UK.
 
Prince, that's over-simplifying the issue. The point is that Non-Muslims eat products such as Pork, which from what i read in the paper about this, is the major contentious point. According to me, most Non-Muslims don't mind buying Halal meat, even my local butcher tells me that all the time. To them its the same. And understandably so.

But in a Secular country like France, you can't start issuing directives that all restaurants start stocking halal? then you're going to get Jews demanding a Kosher menu everywhere, Vegans demanding a total ban on meat, etc? It all ends in a rather sorry state of affairs.
 
nocturnal said:
Well, if they can't give the Muslim community firm assurances that such clearly separated cooking practices between Halal and Non-halal food will be implemented, then perhaps they ought to decide upon one option. Either stick with Halal foods only, or revert back to previous company policy and altogether withdraw Halal products.

Im sure the Muslims there have their own butcheries and restaurants just like we have numerous amounts of them in the UK.
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I personally wouldn't buy halal food from a non-muslim food chain, mainly cause of cooking practices and animal slaughter methods, we can't be sure if it is actually halal.

Its best for muslims to stick to their own restaurents, I'm sure theirs plenty around
 
nocturnal said:
I don't think they're picking on the fact that the outlet is retailing Halal foodstuffs, but just that in doing so, the company has moved to withdraw all non-Halal meat which is what has sparked the controversy.

I think what they're calling for is Halal food, alongside that which was there before it. It does make sense really. That way it caters for the whole community.
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So what though? If the company doesn't want to serve bacon at those branches its their choice. Not all shops carry the same range. Its silly to accuse a shop of discrimination because they don't stock what you want. I might have to complain about McDonalds not selling pheasant.
 
nocturnal said:
Prince, that's over-simplifying the issue. The point is that Non-Muslims eat products such as Pork, which from what i read in the paper about this, is the major contentious point. According to me, most Non-Muslims don't mind buying Halal meat, even my local butcher tells me that all the time. To them its the same. And understandably so.

But in a Secular country like France, you can't start issuing directives that all restaurants start stocking halal? then you're going to get Jews demanding a Kosher menu everywhere, Vegans demanding a total ban on meat, etc? It all ends in a rather sorry state of affairs.
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thats the point, if this guy wants to play his game, then everyone else can, Muslims should start to play the game too and open up a pandoras box with everyone demanding their own types of menu's and resturants. :D
 
The_Prince said:
lol this is good, from now on all Muslims living in the west can also complain that virtually all resturants are discriminatory towards Muslims because they dont offer a halal menu, now thats discrimination dont you think? Muslims make up the second largest faith in Europe, and they the fastest growing demograph, so why dont resturants start to conform with this reality and serve halal food in every single resturant? i say discrimination!!!!!!!!!!!! why are Muslims forced to eat from one none-halal menu only? no fair.

oh yes, two can play this game.
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Actually, some resteraunts do offer Halal. Obviously don't expect a grill that serves up a full breakfast with sausages and bacon to start adopting it any time soon, but Subway is a good example.
 
Dagless said:
So what though? If the company doesn't want to serve bacon at those branches its their choice. Not all shops carry the same range. Its silly to accuse a shop of discrimination because they don't stock what you want. I might have to complain about McDonalds not selling pheasant.
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Point taken. Every company should have the right and freedom to set corporate policy as they see fit. If stocking Halal foods only for a sizeable Muslim population is what best serves their commercial interests and pleases the local Muslim community, then i suppose it's a mutually beneficial decision.

But i guess on the other hand what has outraged the naysayers is that this particular company has been operating a long time selling Pork and other sorts of haram products to the non-Muslim community and the suddeness with which it has been withdrawn has ticked them off. But like you said, it was their business decision, and they have every right to take such decisions.
 
Supreme said:
Actually, some resteraunts do offer Halal. Obviously don't expect a grill that serves up a full breakfast with sausages and bacon to start adopting it any time soon, but Subway is a good example.
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some?!!!! SOMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why not all? thats discrimination!
 
You know from the point of view of the Non-Muslims, with respect to the whole "it makes business sense" arguement, they could just as easily invert the whole thing and say, what if we as Muslims had a local outlet that specialised in providing high quality Halal foods and was a firmly established feature of the local community for a long time only to out of the blue experience a pretty stunning volte face and change in tack prompted by a business decision taken to start selling bacon? Let's be honest, that would rankle all of us. So, in that sense, we shouldn't apply double-standards.
 
nocturnal said:
You know from the point of view of the Non-Muslims, with respect to the whole "it makes business sense" arguement, they could just as easily invert the whole thing and say, what if we as Muslims had a local outlet that specialised in providing high quality Halal foods and was a firmly established feature of the local community for a long time only to out of the blue experience a pretty stunning volte face and change in tack prompted by a business decision taken to start selling bacon? Let's be honest, that would rankle all of us. So, in that sense, we shouldn't apply double-standards.
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If Muslims compalined, they'd probably be accused of many things.
 
nocturnal said:
You know from the point of view of the Non-Muslims, with respect to the whole "it makes business sense" arguement, they could just as easily invert the whole thing and say, what if we as Muslims had a local outlet that specialised in providing high quality Halal foods and was a firmly established feature of the local community for a long time only to out of the blue experience a pretty stunning volte face and change in tack prompted by a business decision taken to start selling bacon? Let's be honest, that would rankle all of us. So, in that sense, we shouldn't apply double-standards.
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It would be annoying but we'd just go to another shop. If there is a market then someone will be selling it. Discrimination doesn't come into it.
 

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