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lulurouge89
04-18-2010, 01:57 AM
well, the title above really shows how much trouble i am in now. i now this is all the work of those who seek to devoid me of the light, but i really need this to clear out of my head!! anyone with great knowledge ,, plzz help me..

okay, Allah s.w.t. promised us four things and one of them is death. but somehow , something made me think, is is that Allah s.w.t. promised us the exact date, time and condition when we die or did Allah s.w.t. promised us death as in general.


1)is our death pre-written/already decided upon entering this earth? if so, would that be unfair for those who are destined to die like in a suicide? i mean, if he was destined to die by suicide, wouldnt his deeds and prayers all this year round be in vain? i mean people can say that he wouldnt be any good people if he decide to commit suicide, but if he was destined to die a suicide death, from the beginning, wouldnt that mean, no matter what he do in this world, he is still going to hell, dispite being a good or a bad person?

2) i dont know if whether any of you have ever heard of this but, there is a saying that when death comes to you, there is no such prayers, medicine or weapon that can delay your death for even a mini second. i dont know how people in other country interpret this, but in my country , they interpreted this as when you are about to die, you should readily accept them because there is nothing in the world you can do to stop death. that said, is it really being a devoted good muslim to embrace death upon seing a knife pointed at you as you enter a dark alley, or just plain suicide? should we fight to live or do nothing? if we fight, would that mean that we are not honouring the promise that Our Creator Allah S.W.T. and be deemed as being ingrate or the sort?

to conclude this , what i really am trying to clear my head off is this, " is our death exactly pre-destined before hand (such as the time date and condition) as the promise our Lord gave, or was it the fact that all men and women die was really the main point to that promise?

im sorry if this post really sound stupid, but plzz, help me.. i really need this.. anyone who have any wise and knowledgable teacher, please lend me your time and ask them, plzzz.

p/s: for any of the repondent, please bear with my english coz im really not that good, and one more thing, please be prepare and open to receive any furthur question from me. its not that i am trying anything, i just really need this to clear my head! plzz.
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Alpha Dude
04-18-2010, 05:08 PM
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is our death pre-written/already decided upon entering this earth? if so, would that be unfair for those who are destined to die like in a suicide? i mean, if he was destined to die by suicide, wouldnt his deeds and prayers all this year round be in vain? i mean people can say that he wouldnt be any good people if he decide to commit suicide, but if he was destined to die a suicide death, from the beginning, wouldnt that mean, no matter what he do in this world, he is still going to hell, dispite being a good or a bad person?
It's better that we didn't dwell too much on the issue of destiny as we open the door to shaytan. We have limited knowledge and don't have the required capabilities to comprehend the matter fully.

Allah has full knowledge of our final destination, but for us, it is sufficient to know and accept that we have freewill to do as we please.

Allah also tells us he is Most Just, therefore there can be no unfair treatment and the implication is that our judgement and understanding is imperfect.

Taqdeer refers to the absolute knowledge of Allah Ta'ala of everything even prior to its existence. Since the knowledge of Allah Ta'ala is perfect, everything will take place exactly according to his knowledge, but in the case of our deeds it is through the choice of every individual.

A person should adopt the means to do something. Thereafter, after the action has been done, the belief of Taqdeer comes in that everything happened through the will of Allah Ta'ala. In one Hadith, Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Allah Ta'ala has already written the abode of every single person in Jahannam or Jannah. The Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum) asked, 'O Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam), should we not put our trust on our books, i.e. what has already been determined for us and leave out doing actions. Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) replied, 'Carry on doing actions. Everything will be made easy for what it has been created for.'

And Allah Ta'ala Knows Best.

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
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is it really being a devoted good muslim to embrace death upon seing a knife pointed at you as you enter a dark alley, or just plain suicide? should we fight to live or do nothing? if we fight, would that mean that we are not honouring the promise that Our Creator Allah S.W.T. and be deemed as being ingrate or the sort?
No, you would not be deemed ingrate. If you're threatened with death, you fight to defend and save your life.

Allah knows when your end will be. You don't.

The guy holding a gun in your face might not be what is meant to take your life to begin with. You can never know when you will die. So always strive to save yourself and carry on with life amassing good deeds.
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Islam_1100
06-05-2010, 05:28 AM
Assalamu alykom my brother , may Allah help me with it i say that when every one is born Allah order the Angel to write his Destiny as in the hadeeth in 40 Nawawiyah and ur destiny does not mean if somethijng happend u say it is writen and u stop ,yes there is a day when u die and it is written,but suicide my brother if it is written to the person it is and we don't say as Mu'tilah saiud that allah write it to u so do it u lust know if hte muslim kiil his self he will be tortured by the way he killed his self in the day of djujement ,And Allahu aalam my brother
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