Do you want democracy in muslim countries or shariah law?

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This poll is for muslims only. By democracy I mean western democracy

This thread is following up from a report by RAND that shows america's stance on islam, how they want to force democracy upon every muslim country and their own brand of islam. RAND have supposedly 'fixed' islam and created their own version that they want to force on all muslims. The report is available here http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR1716/MR1716.pdf

Democracy is clear cut haraam (forbidden) in islam in muslim countries:

Quran [5:44] And whosoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed, such are the Kafirun (i.e. disbelievers - of a lesser degree as they do not act on Allah's Laws).

You cannot choose what laws you want to follow over what god has made compulsary, this is something non-muslims do not understand and one of the reasons groups like the afghan taliban have to fight the invasion

There are 'moderate' 'liberal' muslims who do not want to live by islamic law and want the freedom to commit filthy immoral acts as you get in the west - thats why some will migrate specially for this 'freedom'

NOTE TO MODS: Please leave the poll as public, last time you changed my taliban pole to private and I couldn't tell if its muslims or non-muslims voting
 
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can someone change my vote to "shariah law" i accidentally pressed the wrong option.
 
Western Democracy is one in which no consideration is given to as who is casting the vote. People even get elected by using doggy means whereas in Islam, the only law of Allah is prevalent. And I challenge anyone who says that peace can be restored by western democracy! It can't! Peace and real good life can only be accomplished by following the shariah COMPLETELY!

@ brother adill77:

aadil77 said:
...You cannot choose what laws you want to follow over what god has made compulsary, this is something non-muslims do not understand and one of the reasons groups like the afghan taliban have to fight the invasion
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Afghan Talibans really want Shariah Law? Do they promise to implement it later onwards when they get freedom, inshAllah? I know very little about Afghan Talibans. Are they really good?
 
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Brother Supreme!

I don't believe this!!! You are a Christian and you still voted for "Shariah law"? :ooh:

:awesome:So that means you agree that Islam is the only solution to the problems of mankind???
 
If you mean “democracy” as being able to vote leaders while Sharia law is still in place then I don’t mind that. But if you mean “democracy” as in you choose a leader and that leader creates their own law? Then no.

I don’t see any countries that are using the Sharia laws properly. I think if any government was misusing the Sharia law then I think we should be able to vote them out.
 
^Of course no country right now is implementing the complete Shariah. That is why we WANT a shariah law! Shariah Law is far superior to democracy.

Some countries like Saudi Arabia have only implemented some parts of Shariah and so they are benefiting from it. The part of Shariah law they follow, it benefits them and the part of Shariah they don't follow; they consequently suffer form it!

There the punishment for rape is death penalty and so the least number of rape cases take place there. On the other hand, the highest number of rape cases take lace in what we called the world super power "America"!

If the countries would implement Shariah law, they would for sure get results.
 
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Exactly. I have seen cases where both men and women are convicted without evidences. Sharia states there must be evidences. And if one repents or shows signs or remorse for only certain crimes, then he should be given a second chance.
Did you know that in Saudi Arabia, five Somali young boys, hands were chopped off without evidence to suggest they were stealing? In fact, it was proven afterwards, that they indeed did not steal. This is not Sharia law.

It is so much harder to convict people under the real Sharia laws. I don’t get how punishments in certain countries are being carried so swiftly. I want sharia laws that is fair and carried out properly.
 
salaam

not a good poll - there should a third choice - both.

peace
 
I would like Islamic law but really dont have faith in any group today to implement it properly. Many tend to think that the huddud is the whole Islamic sharia as opposed to it just being a small aspect of it.
Salam
 
^What are you people talking about? Islamic system IS democracy! Shariah law automatically means democracy!

Don't you remember that Prophet (s.a.w) always consulted (kind of voting process) his companions about matters? So much so that at the time of Uhad, Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) wanted to fight the enemies while remaining inside Madinah but because the companions suggested him against it, so he had to agree. And we Muslims lost that war too but still Allah Subhano WatAllah commanded the Prophet (s.a.w) to keep consulting his fellows.

So the third option doesn't make sense to me. But of course brother Zafran has his own reasons to say this.
 
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An33za said:
^What are you people talking about? Islamic system IS democracy! Shariah law automatically means democracy!

Don't you remember that Prophet (s.a.w) always consulted (kind of voting process) his companions about matters? So much so that at the time of Uhad, Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) wanted to fight the enemies while remaining inside Madinah but because the companions suggested him against it, so he had to agree. And we Muslims lost that war too but still Allah Subhano WatAllah commanded the Prophet (s.a.w) to keep consulting his fellows.

So the third option doesn't make sense to me. But of course brother Zafran has his own reasons to say this.
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I think it would be much clearer for Zafran if you explained what democracy is and how the islamic system is democratic. May you can give him and others more information on this. An article would be helpful.

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sweet106 said:
I think it would be much clearer for Zafran if you explained what democracy is and how the islamic system is democratic. May you can give him and others more information on this. An article would be helpful.

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Okay my sweet106, I'll make a separate thread for it. InshAllah!
May Allah bless you so much! :wub:
 
Shariah law - complete and implemented properly. Al-hamdulillah.
 
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Ofcourse the Shariah Law, NO Law is Better than the Law of Allaah our Creator!

And All Praise is due to Allaah!

Indeed

So yeah!
 
I'm voting for Shariah, HOWEVER, I do not feel that Saudi Arabia or any other country implementing 'Shariah' has done it properly. Shariah is supposed to be the perfect, ideal, law. Our understanding and implications of it seem to be flawed. The tradition of Fiqh cannot be made to have more importance than the Qur'an.
 
The brother means democracy of the western law, (the western type of government).

Also I vote for Sharia Law that is implemented properly.
 
An33za said:
Western Democracy is one in which no consideration is given to as who is casting the vote. People even get elected by using doggy means whereas in Islam, the only law of Allah is prevalent. And I challenge anyone who says that peace can be restored by western democracy! It can't! Peace and real good life can only be accomplished by following the shariah COMPLETELY!

@ brother adill77:



Afghan Talibans really want Shariah Law? Do they promise to implement it later onwards when they get freedom, inshAllah? I know very little about Afghan Talibans. Are they really good?
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Allah knows best, I've been taught to trust my muslim brothers over invading non-muslims who supposedly want the best for muslims
 
Democracy is so cool. They even let you vote every four years..It feels so involved...

But I think that the amazing thing is how much it is different than the way people used to live
as now with democracy we have no more wars, people are nice to each other do not kill each other
anymore for money and greed...Wow, modern world is so amazing...I really do not know who I came
to be so blessed to be born in this unique time in history where people are almost perfect (at least
the ones who are not unlucky barbarians and live in democratic countries)
 

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