Mosaism and judaism. Jewish religions.

One of the most common mistakes in a matter of monotheistic religion is to say that nowadays judaism is the monotheistic religion from the Old Testament. Mosaism and judaism are two different religions. Mosaism is a manifested monotheistic belief in universal Creator. Mosaism was taught by Old Testament prophets, by many jewish high chaplans (aronits and levits) and also by large part of the jewish tribes, but not always and not all.
Judaism is not only religion but also jewish culture. Judaism is a jewish belief in one tribal deity only for jews. Judaism is monolatry, god of judaism take cares only about jews and fight against jews' enemies. Judaism is not a belief in universal monotheistic Creator. That's why it was hard for OT prophets to teach jews about mosaism. This one of the reasons why jews killed many of the prophets.
Mosaism almost disappeared completely among jews after the comeing of Jesus Christ. Judaism, that monolatric jewish tribal religion, was finally written between II and V century A.D by writing down Jerusalem Talmud and then the Babilonian Talmud.

That's why it was hard for OT prophets to teach jews about mosaism.

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In Old Testament jewish people were believers of three religions - monotheistic mosaism, monolatric judaism and in pagan politheism. In newer times at least two new jewish religions appeared - khabala and hasidism.

Amadeus85 said:

In Old Testament jewish people were believers of three religions - monotheistic mosaism, monolatric judaism and in pagan politheism. In newer times at least two new jewish religions appeared - khabala and hasidism.

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Hasidism is a cult and not a religion, neither is kabbalah a religion but an esoteric dimension of judaism which certain rabbinical jews study. The problem with judaism is that there are very few real jews alive today who follow the Torah and NOT the rabbinical Talmud. Google "qaraim" for more information, otherwise I can send you some information via email.

Azrael said:

Hasidism is a cult and not a religion, neither is kabbalah a religion but an esoteric dimension of judaism which certain rabbinical jews study. The problem with judaism is that there are very few real jews alive today who follow the Torah and NOT the rabbinical Talmud. Google "qaraim" for more information, otherwise I can send you some information via email.

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Interesting, brother are you a former jew?

Is the judaism of today not fully monotheistic? or is it polytheism because of the fact that rabbi's are making the laws now a days and people are following them?

Amadeus85 said:

One of the most common mistakes in a matter of monotheistic religion is to say that nowadays judaism is the monotheistic religion from the Old Testament. Mosaism and judaism are two different religions. Mosaism is a manifested monotheistic belief in universal Creator.

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True.

Amadeus85 said:

was taught by Old Testament prophets, by many jewish high chaplans (aronits and levits) and also by large part of the jewish tribes, but not always and not all.
Judaism is not only religion but also jewish culture. Judaism is a jewish belief in one tribal deity only for jews. Judaism is monolatry, god of judaism take cares only about jews and fight against jews' enemies. Judaism is not a belief in universal monotheistic Creator.

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True.

Amadeus85 said:

That's why it was hard for OT prophets to teach jews about mosaism. This one of the reasons why jews killed many of the prophets.

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True.

Amadeus85 said:

Mosaism almost disappeared completely among jews after the comeing of Jesus Christ.

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Not ture.

Amadeus85 said:

that monolatric jewish tribal religion, was finally written between II and V century A.D by writing down Jerusalem Talmud and then the Babilonian Talmud.

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No.

aadil77 said:

Interesting, brother are you a former jew?

Is the judaism of today not fully monotheistic? or is it polytheism because of the fact that rabbi's are making the laws now a days and people are following them?

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As-Salāmu `Alaykum brother,

I am not a former jew but I have studied judaism for 4 to 5 years with the previous intention to convert before I begun to read the Quran and my nafs told me that islam is the true religion.

When I begun to study jewish history I found out about the rivaling sects during the time of Isa (peace be upon him). Currently there exists two major sects in judaism: qaraim and rabbanites. The ancestors of the qaraim was the sadduccees who only believed in the written Torah, and the ancestors of todays rabbinical jews (who also follow the Talmud (oral law)) was the pharisees. Qaraite judaism was founded 1500 BCE and rabbanite judaism was founded 200 BCE.

The pharisees tried to easen the law for the general jew by adding an oral tradition which the rabbis used to explain the certain laws, while sadduccees kept themselves to a strict tradition of the plain meaning of the Torah. In the Torah, you're a jew if your father was a jew, but the rabbinical jews "decided" (against the Torah) that to give women more power judaism should be inherited maternally.

This meant that the pharisees more or less took power because they simplyfied Torah so that everyone could understand and by time the rabbinical jews have inserted rebbes (leaders of cult dynasties) and rabbis (rav in hebrew) to interpret the law for the general public while the qaraim still interpret the Torah literally.

This means that instead of following the Torah which was given to the jewish people, the majority of todays jews are rabbinical and instead of following the Torah they follow rabbinical decisions and decrees which actually may lack support in the Torah.

aadil77 said:

Interesting, brother are you a former jew?

Is the judaism of today not fully monotheistic? or is it polytheism because of the fact that rabbi's are making the laws now a days and people are following them?

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Do you know what polytheism is? Judaism isn't polytheistic in any sense of the word. In fact, it's vehemently monotheistic.

Source: Coming from a family that are (and used to be) Jews. Polish Jews, actually, reflecting the nationality of the OP.

Supreme said:

Do you know what polytheism is? Judaism isn't polytheistic in any sense of the word. In fact, it's vehemently monotheistic.

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"They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) to worship none but One Ilah (God - Allah) La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)." [Surah Tawbah {9:31}]

aadil77 said:

"They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) to worship none but One Ilah (God - Allah) La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)." [Surah Tawbah {9:31}]

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Which 'partners' do you know that Jews associate with God?

Talmudic judaism is not politheistic, but monolatric. Politheism was never JEWISH religion, but many jews did believe in politheism because of the influence of their neighbours in ancient Middle East.

Talmudic judaism is a faith that was finally created between II and V centures A.D when jews have written Talmud. Talmudic judaism is not faith in universal monotheistic God for all people and for a morality for all people, but it is a monolatric belief in exclusively jewish, tribal god, who, according to Talmud, will send the Messiah, when jews achieve the reigns over the world. These are the words of Talmud.

Khabalists first thought that the jewish Moschiah would come at the year - 1520 A.D. But this date failed.
Next date brought by high khabalists was 1648 and that year appeared a jew in Turkey, who called himself Moschiah, his name was Sabbatai Cwi.

Supreme said:

Which 'partners' do you know that Jews associate with God?

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"They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) to worship none but One Ilah (God - Allah) La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)." [Surah Tawbah {9:31}]

"And the Jews say: 'Uzair (Ezra) is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouths. They imitate the saying of the disbelievers of old. Allah's Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth!" [Surah Tawbah {9:30}]