format_quote Originally Posted by
hamza abdulhaki
Salaam aleykum we rahmetullah,
As far as I know the only source for the Ehrman vs White debate is Dr. White`s Website aomin.org. I'm thinking of purchasing the debate there but I`m not sure, though. I only have a written Transscript of the debate. If someone is interested in this he/she can send me a notification.
Salaam aleykum we rahmetullah
Hamza Abdulhakim
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you can download it and burn it yourself, i did. tho, i'm forgetting which computer and which program i used. i use alot of freeware such as freecorder, but i think it was the desktop i used. if i turn it on today, i'll checkout the program i used. burnt it with Nero Vision.
btw, how did you get transcripts? can you post them?
where can you buy the dvd? i like to make the best copies that i can.
In this type of debate, it is always better if your opponent to start 1st so at the end of the debate, you get the last say. Also, Ehrman won the debate, because Craig Evans didn't answer to all the allegations.
i'm guessing that all of those Christians thought that their preacher won, similar to an old Deedat debate. i thought Ehrman destroyed him, but at the same time he seemed to "loose his cool" a bit. i don't think that he can comprehend how it is that Christians are so oblivious in the face of so much factual opposition to their position. though i DO sympathize with him on that, i think that you just have to learn to present the facts in a better humored way. of course Ehrman IS at a disadvantage, he doesn't know the whole truth. he seems to be trying to "convert" people to agnosticism. all you can really do is demonstrate the truth to the people, you can't control what they do with it.
but you are spot on when you say that Evans ignored most of the points that Ehrman made. he pretty much has to, when you view the NT in the historical manner it proves itself not to be the word of God whether you like it or not.
i'm working on a project that will add a proper religious dimension, In Sha'a Allah. if i get to complete it, we will give a demonstration along with the PROOF that Islam IS in the OT along with a brief intro on Islam, In Sha'a Allah. Daiee Sh Ahmed M Awal is a friend of mine and i give him my research when he is in town and Khalid Yaseen just moved here recently and my friend Sh Abu Bakr works with him and gives lectures for him. if we can take the emotion out of it and just deliver the Truth then at some point, the Christians will have to address these points. what they do now is simply NOT discuss them. WHY? because they already know most of it! they just don't want their "flock" to know! they wouldn't be able to "fleece" them so easily if they did know!
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