Ah, al hamdulillah! I'll post what I didn't post on the other stoning thread.
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AlexIslam
????? It doesn't. Smaller stones are used so the sheer pain can be felt, where as if larger stones were used a quick death would be inevidable. Regardless of whether what stone is used or how its done. Its wrong and a sadistic thing to do.
The stones used are palm size. That’s a big stone. Considering there’s quite a crowd doing the stoning, it won’t be long before the person is knocked unconscious. But, if you think stoning/flogging is inhumane, then what other method should be used as a deterrent?
Due to there being no shariah law in most muslim communities, immorality in muslim communities is increasing. It has already reached escalating heights in the West. Thousands of non muslim mothers are crying for help because their 12 year old daughters are sleeping with men for money, clothes and fun? These young girls have had sexual relations with more men than the years they've been on this earth. Some end up pregnant. Some with STDs, and all of them emotionally scarred for life. And that's the unmarried ones.
This is what happens when immoral behaviour isn't nipped in the bud. No deterrents. No fear. Al hamdulillah unlike the West most muslims still adhere to the same beliefs that keep the disintegration of society at bay. And even if in most places where muslims live, there is no shariah law, we still remember the punishments (as reminders) in our hearts, which although not metted out physically, still remain to be deterrents mentally and spiritually.
Where there are no deterrents, things have reached rock bottom. But no matter how bad a society gets, no person can continue to commit sin and not feel guilty. That is by man's very own nature that his sins will make him suffer will various ways. Some drink, do drugs, or even commit more sins to take their mind of the previous ones. Nature's way of alerting us to something we did wrong is to make us feel guilty. That's why people end up confessing to extra marital affairs/murders and lesser crimes. Man cannot shoulder the burden of his sins. He has to relieve himself of it somehow, and most commonly it's by confessing. Where promiscuity is rife, the guilt is also greater. Every day hordes of men and women are confessing to adultery, cheating and the like. It’s really sad to see an innocent baby’s mother telling her husband, that their baby may not be his. He’s told that the child he loved more than his own life might not even be his! So off they go for a paternity test. The paternity test shows he is not the father. Tears. Anger. Then woman says who she thinks is the father. So off they go for another paternity test. Lo and behold, that man also isn't the baby's father. Uh oh! Believe it or not, in most such cases require multiple tests, and in most the baby's father still isn't found! Up to 30, 40 and even 50 tests! Ya Allah! The non muslim West is littered with tarts, including male ones. If you don't believe me - ask Maury Povich. He organises such tests! I’ve seen so many of these shows in the past, it’s like being stuck in ground hog day. The people never stop coming. The sins stay the same, only the faces change – although most seem to have bought a seasons ticket to keep returning.
How many babies are born as a result of fornication/adultery and will grow up not knowing who the father is, and with the possibility of marrying their own brother or sister? The kuffar brush off their actions by saying there’s nothing wrong in what they do as long as they aren’t hurting anyone. Anyone can see that’s rubbish. Immorality is destroying so many lives, not to mention how much of tax payers money goes to fixing the ills of these societies. Instead of looking to deterrents, the West ploughs even more of our money into plastering the cracks. Way to go West!
Stoning/lashing may seem cruel, no one can say it’s not effective as a deterrent. Shariah also requires four witnesses to convict a person of adultery. What are the chances of that four people witnessing illegal sexual intercourse? Pfft! Death by stoning is rare! I know of more people who were killed on a night out to the pub than by stoning! But that's acceptable I guess. With harsh deterrents, those who are tempted to commit adultery/fornication will think twice and save society from turning into total hell-hole. It’s sad to think that no one bats an eyelid when thousands and millions of people commit lewd and immoral behaviour and ruin lives. It’s ok for a mother to leave her young children and run off with the milkman. It’s ok for the father to have an affair with his wife’s sister. Hell, even mothers have not spared their own daughter’s husbands/boyfriends. Yet all this is allowed to go unchecked. No one cares about the trail of destruction and broken lives left behind. But the moment they hear there is actually a penalty and deterrent for such a behaviour, there is uproar and condemnation of what is actually a great medicine for societies’ ills.
Taken from original article posted by the O.P:
"It is notable that this kind of punishment has rarely been implemented in Iran and various means and remedies must be probed and exhausted to finally come up with such a punishment,"
No one wants people to commit a sin that warrantees such a punishment. Not scholars. Not us. But if that's the only way to keep society clean from the filth that's prevalent in the West, then so be it. We can't risk destroying whole communities over a few individuals.
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