Conspiracy theorist?

As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Has anyone called you a conspiracy theorist?

Do you think you have an "accurate account of history?"

Do you think conspiracy theorist have a paranoid imagination?

Do you feel your current ecomonic situation is because the the illuminati are keeping you improvished?

Do you rely upon youtube created videos to support your conspiracy theories?

When someone challenges your theories do you rely sound evidence to support your views?

Do you believe anyone who doesn't support your conspiracy theories are really part of the over all conspiracy to suppress the truth?

Do you have the view that the destruction on 911 was created by the United States and their allies and no one who claimed to be Muslim were involved?

Can you translate the following video and what do you think of it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

Surah Al Hujuraat 49:6

6. O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.
(Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan translation)

Jazakumullahu Khair

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Has anyone called you a conspiracy theorist?

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No.

Do you think you have an "accurate account of history?"

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Yes and no.

I have knowledge on the Crusades, British History, World War 1 and 2, Cold War and Palestinian and Israeli conflict.

My current knowledge is too limited and simplistic. I need in-depth analysis of these events. The Palestinian and Israeli conflict is ongoing and I find it difficult to keep to date.

Do you think conspiracy theorist have a paranoid imagination?

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Possibly.

I think there is a difference between someone who questions events and someone who forms his own theory which contradicts the ''official version'' of events.

I do think it is pointless to label someone paranoid. It is better to engage in a discussion without name calling.

Do you feel your current ecomonic situation is because the the illuminati are keeping you improvished?

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I am not sure. I've heard about the Illuminati and I think there is too much speculation. There are other factors that explain the economic crisis.

Do you rely upon youtube created videos to support your conspiracy theories?

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I use books, articles, government documentation, legislations (Act of Parliament, Statutory Instruments) and case law reports. I sometimes use videos that present interviews, conferences etc.

When someone challenges your theories do you rely sound evidence to support your views?

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I have not developed any theory.

Do you believe anyone who doesn't support your conspiracy theories are really part of the over all conspiracy to suppress the truth?

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No. I do think the government and the mainstream media may attempt to suppress sensitive information.

Do you have the view that the destruction on 911 was created by the United States and their allies and no one who claimed to be Muslim were involved?

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I am not sure and I am not going to jump to conclusions. I will wait and see what happens. I am still carrying out my research on 9/11.

Can you translate the following video and what do you think of it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiKyWJRRjnU

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No I cannot translate the video.

I think Osama is saying that not to view 9/11 as an independent event and the cause of this event was due to past conflicts. He did not claim to be responsible for 9/11 but he did praise the attack. Oh I would like to add, I am not sure whether the English translation is correct because I cannot speak Arabic. There is a possibility it might be incorrectly translated or it could have been done on purpose.

I would like to conclude that when someone carries out a research, they should do it in order to find the truth. There is no point reading information and watching videos, when you are distorting the information to reinforce your own theory and I have been guilty of this without realising it. End of the day, your only fooling yourself.

well if you look back to the world wars and vietnam.. the propaganda machine was in overdrive.
i dont know if anybody took those jerry blasting posters seriously or not or those slant eyed cartoons.. but today you have the tv and a very powerful media system,
its not a drastic leap of incoherance to think disinformation plays a big part in world affairs. thats probably the paranoia talking though.

M.I.A. said:

well if you look back to the world wars and vietnam.. the propaganda machine was in overdrive.

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M.I.A. said:

i dont know if anybody took those jerry blasting posters seriously or not or those slant eyed cartoons.. but today you have the tv and a very powerful media system,
its not a drastic leap of incoherance to think disinformation plays a big part in world affairs. thats probably the paranoia talking though.

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As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Ukhti M.I.A:

we acknowledge the disinformation campaigns established to control the general support of conflicts, wars and covert campaigns against internal civil unrest. Which is well documented.

The following is an example of what current conspiracy theorist use to justify and validate unfounded views and have used as an example why theories should be believed:

1.The Dreyfus Affair: In the late 1800s in France, Jewish artillery officer Alfred Dreyfus was wrongfully convicted of treason based on false government documents, and sentenced to life in prison. The French government did attempt to cover this up, but Dreyfus was eventually pardoned after the affair was made public (an act that is credited to writer Émile Zola).

2.The Mafia: This secret crime society was virtually unknown until the 1960s, when member Joe Valachi first revealed the society's secrets to law enforcement officials.What was known was that organized crime existed, but not that the extent of their control included working with the CIA, politicians and the biggest businesses in the world.

3.MK-ULTRA: In the 1950s to the 1970s, the CIA ran a mind-control project aimed at finding a "truth serum" to use on communist spies. Test subjects were given LSD and other drugs, often without consent, and some were tortured.

4.Operation Mockingbird: Also in the 1950s to '70s, the CIA paid a number of well-known domestic and foreign journalists (from big-name media outlets like Time, The Washington Post, The New York Times, CBS and others) to publish CIA propaganda. The CIA also reportedly funded at least one movie, the animated "Animal Farm," by George Orwell. The Church Committee finally exposed the activities in 1975.

5.Manhattan Project:The Manhattan Project was the codename for a project conducted during World War II to develop the first atomic bomb. The project was led by the United States, and included participation from the United Kingdom and Canada. Formally designated as the Manhattan Engineer District (MED), it refers specifically to the period of the project from 1942–1946 under the control of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, under the administration of General Leslie R. Groves.

6.Asbestos: Between 1930 and 1960, manufacturers did all they could to prevent the link between asbestos and respiratory diseases, including cancer, becoming known, so they could avoid prosecution. American workers had in fact sued the Johns Manville company as far back as 1932, but it was not until 1962 that epidemiologists finally established beyond any doubt what company bosses had known for a long time – asbestos causes cancer.

7.Watergate: Republican officials spied on the Democratic National Headquarters from the Watergate Hotel in 1972. While conspiracy theories suggested underhanded dealings were taking place, it wasn't until 1974 that White House tape recordings linked President Nixon to the break-in and forced him to resign.

8.The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: The United States Public Health Service carried out this clinical study on 400 poor, African-American men with syphilis from 1932 to 1972. During the study the men were given false and sometimes dangerous treatments, and adequate treatment was intentionally withheld so the agency could learn more about the disease. While the study was initially supposed to last just six months, it continued for 40 years. Close to 200 of the men died from syphilis or related complications by the end of the study.

9.Operation Northwoods: In the early 1960s, American military leaders drafted plans to create public support for a war against Cuba, to oust Fidel Castro from power. The plans included committing acts of terrorism in U.S. cities, killing innocent people and U.S. soldiers, blowing up a U.S. ship, assassinating Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees, and hijacking planes. The plans were all approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but were reportedly rejected by the civilian leadership, then kept secret for nearly 40 years.

10.1990 Testimony of Nayirah:A 15-year-old girl named “Nayirah” testified before the U.S. Congress that she had seen Iraqi soldiers pulling Kuwaiti babies from incubators, causing them to die. The testimony helped gain major public support for the 1991 Gulf War, but — despite protests that the dispute of this story was itself a conspiracy theory — it was later discovered that the testimony was false. The public relations firm Hill & Knowlton, which was in the employ of Citizens for a Free Kuwait, had arranged the testimony.It turned out that she had taken acting lessons on request of the CIA and was actually the niece of a major politician in Kuwait.Nayirah was later disclosed to be Nayirah al-Sabah, daughter of Saud bin Nasir Al-Sabah, Kuwaiti ambassador to the USA.The Congressional Human Rights Caucus, of which Congressman Tom Lantos was co-chairman, had been responsible for hosting Nurse Nayirah, and thereby popularizing her allegations. When the girl's account was later challenged by independent human rights monitors, Lantos replied, "The notion that any of the witnesses brought to the caucus through the Kuwaiti Embassy would not be credible did not cross my mind

11.Counter Intelligence Programs Against Activists in the 60s:

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception, however formal COINTELPRO operations took place between 1956 and 1971. The FBI's stated motivation at the time was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order."According to FBI records, 85% of COINTELPRO resources were expended on infiltrating, disrupting, marginalizing, and/or subverting groups suspected of being subversive, such as communist and socialist organizations; the women's rights movement; militant black nationalist groups, and the non-violent civil rights movement, including individuals such as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the Congress of Racial Equality, the American Indian Movement, and other civil rights groups; a broad range of organizations labeled "New Left", including Students for a Democratic Society, the National Lawyers Guild, the Weathermen, almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, and even individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; and nationalist groups such as those "seeking independence for Puerto Rico." The other 15% of COINTELPRO resources were expended to marginalize and subvert "white hate groups," including the Ku Klux Klan and National States' Rights Party. The directives governing COINTELPRO were issued by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who ordered FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these movements and their leaders.

The mixing of facts with fiction and concocted stories to refute established independant facts promotes labels and opposition to the conspiracy theorist.

Jazakumullahu Khair

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As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

6.Asbestos: Between 1930 and 1960, manufacturers did all they could to prevent the link between asbestos and respiratory diseases, including cancer, becoming known, so they could avoid prosecution. American workers had in fact sued the Johns Manville company as far back as 1932, but it was not until 1962 that epidemiologists finally established beyond any doubt what company bosses had known for a long time – asbestos causes cancer.

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There were several in the UK regarding asbestos. However, these cases were about whether the several employers were responsible for not providing protection to employees.

.Operation Northwoods: In the early 1960s, American military leaders drafted plans to create public support for a war against Cuba, to oust Fidel Castro from power. The plans included committing acts of terrorism in U.S. cities, killing innocent people and U.S. soldiers, blowing up a U.S. ship, assassinating Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees, and hijacking planes. The plans were all approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but were reportedly rejected by the civilian leadership, then kept secret for nearly 40 years.

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I have heard of this. This is one of the arguments some people use to say that the USA is capable of planning 9/11.

ProfessorSunday said:

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ProfessorSunday said:

There were several in the UK regarding asbestos. However, these cases were about whether the several employers were responsible for not providing protection to employees.



I have heard of this. This is one of the arguments some people use to say that the USA is capable of planning 9/11.

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As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Akhi ProfessorSunday:

The taped videos allegelly made by the accused hijackers of the planes should be discounted? Were the videos doctored and lookalikes acted in the video's?

The lack of intelligence and commonsense keep people in the stone ages not Islam. Because views are created by personal sentiments and not based on Islam.

Surah An-Nisa 4:135

135. O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allah is a Better Protector to both (than you). So follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you may avoid justice, and if you distort your witness or refuse to give it, verily, Allah is Ever Well-Acquainted with what you do.


Using deception to overcome the enemy in war is permissible but can't be declared until an Islamic State and Khalifah is established.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 268:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle called,: "War is deceit".

Jazakumullahu Khair

yep the editors have a lot to answer for.

you know before the early 50s in America they refused to believe in the mafia. Even after the crime waves in the 30s it was considered a conspiracy. Now its clear the mafia exists. Plus look at kennedy, I dont think anyone really believes the offical story on that one.

There's nothing wrong with conspiracy theorists. In this crappy world of lies we live in today -- you kind of have to look beyond the leaders' rehearsed lies and stories that many idiots take as full truth immediately.
Really...so many things in this world that have happened, and I don't want to mention specifics here, are complete, utter LIES.
Here's how it works...
The leaders cook it - the press serves it - the public eats it...
Don't you think we should know better than to eat this crap with them?