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"Is music haram?"

"Are photos haram?"

"Is talking to person of the opposite sex haram?"

"Are dogs haram?"

"Is alcohol haram?"

"Is TV haram?"

"Are videos haram?"

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Group A scholars say yes. Group B scholars say no. Group C scholars say there is something wrong with these questions.

Which group do you support?
 
Flame said:
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"Is music haram?"
Group A
"Are photos haram?"
Group C
"Is talking to person of the opposite sex haram?"
Group C
"Are dogs haram?"
Group A
"Is alcohol haram?"
Group A
"Is TV haram?"
Group C
"Are videos haram?"
Group C
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Group A scholars say yes. Group B scholars say no. Group C scholars say there is something wrong with these questions.

Which group do you support?
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Pointless question.
 
I support group C; it is useless live your life with asking at every times about every parts of the life as "is this haram, is this haram, is this haram".

Pointless answer?
 
'Abd Al-Maajid said:
"Is music haram?"
Group A

"Are photos haram?"
Group C

"Is talking to person of the opposite sex haram?"
Group C

"Are dogs haram?"
Group A

"Is alcohol haram?"
Group A

"Is TV haram?"
Group C

"Are videos haram?"
Group C
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lol. Take a look at all the questions again. There's definitely something wrong with them all. :p

Can you figure out what?
 
I dont get it...I am already very much
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'Abd Al-Maajid said:
I dont get it...I am already very much
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Okay. I don't want to stress you out even more. lol.

The reason why something's wrong with all those questions is because...... they are too general.

"Is music haram?"

The question does not address what ABOUT music is haram. It isn't specific.

What type of music? Music with singing or music without singing? Music to enhance the viewing experience in films? Or too much music that is making you forget your duties and responsibilities? Music that you prefer to listen to than the Qur'an? Music that's in movies, documentary films, ads? Background music? Music that soothes and relaxes the nerves? Does it apply to music in all things, all situations and all circumstances? Nasheeds are also haram? Songs about Allah and Muhammad (saws) are also haram?

"Are photos haram?"


What about photos is haram? Does this include all photos? What sort of photos specifically? Family photos? Identity photos? Photos of loved ones? Photos of animals and living beings? Photos of inanimate things? Or is it with regard to hanging them up on the wall for decoration? Or using them for the purpose of worshiping gods other than Allah?

Is talking to person of the opposite sex haram?"


Does that include all situations and all circumstances? What if the person is your employer? Or a person in your class? Or a person who got lost and is asking for directions? What if he or she is a doctor who you depend on to save your life?

"Are dogs haram?"


What about dogs is haram? Eating them? lol. Or keeping them as pets? Is it haram also to keep them for guarding the house... or use them as hunting dogs?

"Is alcohol haram?"


What about alcohol is haram? Drinking it? Using it to light a fire? Using it as a freshener for your laundry? Using it to disinfect the skin? Or for cleaning purposes?

"Is TV haram?"

What about TV is haram? Everything?!!

"Are videos haram?"

What about videos is haram? Everything?!!


More information is needed before such questions can be answered PROPERLY in my opinion.
 
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i am of this opinion, if there is no virtue/sawab in doing these matters, y are we insisiting much about it. leave them.
 
Subhanallah! You are really good at asking questions and remembering everyone's questions :><:. You are right sis there are atleast 5 threads on each topic.

Answering these questions needs knowledge and understanding.
 
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tigerkhan said:
i am of this opinion, if there is no virtue/sawab in doing these matters, y are we insisiting much about it. leave them.
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So if you consider music to be haram you would avoid everything related to music? You would plug your ears if someone sings or plays any musical instrument? You would stop watching ALL movies and films, even if they are educational because there's music in it? ....never listen to nasheeds or songs teaching kids about Islam? You would never sing a lullaby or listen to one?

If you consider the TV to be haram you would stop watching TV altogether? Not even watch news coverage of something important going on in your country or city? You wouldn't watch any Islamic programs either.... because they are on TV?

You would also give up watching all videos? Never go to YouTube? Never get on the internet because there's musical audio and videos on all sorts of subjects?

You would tear up all pictures found in your home. Never have your photo taken. Never keep photos of your family members? Never record a day of importance such as the day you graduate from college or get married on film?

How practical does all this sound?

The rules of Islam are not absolute. Let's understand that..... let's also understand that we must be fair in our judgments and get all the necessary information regarding a particular matter BEFORE giving a verdict of whether something is haram or not.

And Allah is the best to judge.
 
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The rules of Islam are not absolute.
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Walaikum Assalam sister,

That is exactly what I wanted to say, but thought better as I considered you might assume I was picking on you.
For it would have been the second thread of yours I would be commenting on.
I therefore owe you an apology for not having thought better of you.

Masalam
 
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Flame said:
Group A scholars say yes. Group B scholars say no. Group C scholars say there is something wrong with these questions.

Which group do you support?
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The correct group would be the one that fully support their answers from the Qur'an and ahadeeth, and the early sources as part of their answers to the question, as well as including any exceptions to the rule. They would not judge the questioner and say that their question is wrong, but would, as part of their answer to the question, cover all scenarios, and situations that may differ from the main ruling (if there are any). In the scenario given above, all group C has done is to criticise the questioner's question.

There is nothing wrong with any of the questions. These are exactly the type of questions that the average lay person would and do ask scholars, for matters they are unsure about. And any person who seeks to have something clarified is to be applauded, for they are wanting to make sure that they are not doing anything Islamically wrong. May Allah increase us all in knowledge, wisdom, and good deeds, ameen.

And Allah knows best in all matters.

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The questions aren't wrong, however the answer given could be wrong, I.E if someone asks "is talking to the opposite gender haraam" a person could answer "yes" without thinking about exceptions to the rule, for example you go to see your doctor and the person on reception is of the opposite gender so you have no choice but to mix/talk with the opposite gender. Then you're forced out of necessity in this situation. Another situation could be you're lost somewhere and need directions, the only person available is of the opposite gender, then in this situation you're also forced to talk with them out of neccessity, another situation could be, you have a question about the deen and there's no 1 around who will know the answer except a man, then you have to mix/talk with them in order to find out the answer to your question.

Another situation that comes to mind is when Ayesha RA was travelling with the army of the Prophet (saw) and she got left behind without anyone realizing, and a man who was lagging behind saw Ayesha, he didn't just walk past her and go "it's haraam for me to talk to her" he approached her and got off his camel and gave her his camel and then they carried on forward till they joined the rest of the army. And the hypocrites started spreading rumours that something happened between them, but he really had no choice, he couldn't leave a defenceless woman alone in the desert could he? He escorted her to safety out of neccessity.

So I think every situation is unique and should be judged according to its merits.


But examples of where it could be haraam could be, you're friends with a girl without need or reason, i.e you chat to each with each other without need or reason just for the fun of it, hang out with each other, go to the cinema together, these are all things that a woman shouldn't do with a non mehram because it's unecessary free mixing with the opposite gender without need or neccessity and could lead to fornication right?



But also, even in situations where it's a neccessity to talk with the opposite gender it can still lead to fornication, i.e you talk with a female receptionist because you have an appointment at the place she's working, and she starts flirting with you. So the best thing to do is to avoid it as much as you can and if you have any advances made towards you, run!!



Another example is the TV question, the answer would be, if you watch haraam stuff then it is haraam, but if you watch halal stuff then it's not haraam.
 
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Salahudeen said:
Another situation could be you're lost somewhere and need directions, the only person available is of the opposite gender, then in this situation you're also forced to talk with them out of neccessity, another situation could be, you have a question about the deen and there's no 1 around who will know the answer except a man, then you have to mix/talk with them in order to find out the answer to your question.
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Salam brother,

Ever considered a career in law ?
Defence lawyer !

Masalam
 
Is talking to person of the opposite sex haram?"


Does that include all situations and all circumstances? What if the person is your employer? Or a person in your class? Or a person who got lost and is asking for directions? What if he or she is a doctor who you depend on to save your life?
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Also my father, son, brother and husband are opposite gender... So we better individualize kind of questions "is this haram" a little better?
 
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Are dogs haram?" What about dogs is haram? Eating them? lol. Or keeping them as pets? Is it haram also to keep them for guarding the house... or use them as hunting dogs?

"Is alcohol haram?" What about alcohol is haram? Drinking it? Using it to light a fire? Using it as a freshener for your laundry? Using it to disinfect the skin? Or for cleaning purposes?
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Since I know this is referring to me, I'll go ahead and step up.

My dogs are my companions. They are my only family since I don't have a wife and/or kids. I feel alone sometimes and my dogs are the only ones that are there for me. I know that in both the Bible and the Qu'ran, dogs are not looked upon favorably. I have to admit that this bothers me, because if Allah created dogs, why does He seem to hate them so much? I understand that in ancient times with limited sanitation and no vaccination of animals, dogs were disease carriers. But that is not so much the case anymore. I've even asked God, "Why do you hate dogs so much if you created them (well, created the wolf who was the father of dogs)?" I haven't really found a good answer.

As for alcohol, the universe is a hard enough place when I am sober. God created wheat, grain, potatoes, sugar cane, etc. All of these are used to make alcohol. Therefore, didn't God create alcohol? And shouldn't I be allowed to have a drink or two now and then to relieve my stress? If God doesn't want us drinking alcohol, why did He create it?

Those are two of my big issues, but I have decided recently that I may just have to disagree with God/Allah on those. I don't want to let a little thing stop me from finding my own inner peace and happiness. Let me find my way and I'll sort this out later...
 
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Another example is the TV question, the answer would be, if you watch haraam stuff then it is haraam, but if you watch halal stuff then it's not haraam.
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Brother, even if all programs in TV are haram, the TV itself is still halal as long as this TV is made not from haram materials, but we are not allowed to watch TV. Haram in this matter fall onto the action (watch TV), not onto the goods/stuff (TV as hardware).

We can use this TV to watch halal videos.


P.S : Don't be hesitate to correct me if I makes a mistake in this matter.
 
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So if you consider music to be haram you would avoid everything related to music? You would plug your ears if someone sings or plays any musical instrument? You would stop watching ALL movies and films, even if they are educational because there's music in it? ....never listen to nasheeds or songs teaching kids about Islam? You would never sing a lullaby or listen to one?

If you consider the TV to be haram you would stop watching TV altogether? Not even watch news coverage of something important going on in your country or city? You wouldn't watch any Islamic programs either.... because they are on TV?

You would also give up watching all videos? Never go to YouTube? Never get on the internet because there's musical audio and videos on all sorts of subjects?

You would tear up all pictures found in your home. Never have your photo taken. Never keep photos of your family members? Never record a day of importance such as the day you graduate from college or get married on film?

How practical does all this sound?

The rules of Islam are not absolute. Let's understand that..... let's also understand that we must be fair in our judgments and get all the necessary information regarding a particular matter BEFORE giving a verdict of whether something is haram or not.

And Allah is the best to judge.
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islam is complete religion for mankind upto qiyama. so what was clearly mentioned as haram b4 1400 years is haram, no matter if every person of world is induged in it. i had personal interest in hadiths about the dajjal and time near qiyamat and all fitnas of that time. so i quote 2 of them here.

in one hadith it was said that there will be lot of fitnas near to qiyama and who was indulged in them, will be destroyed. when asked that what wil be the indication that someone fall in fitna. it was said that in morning he/she will think that this thing ( like music, photos, videos etc) is haram and in evening he will consider them as halal.

in one other hadith it was told that a time will come in which ur men will bcm un-obedient and women will bcm shameless. suhaba ra when heard this they got amazed. prophet PBUH said even more worse time will come that u will leave doing dawa (amir bil mahroof wa nahe hanil munkar). and then he PBUH said even more wrost time will come when u will promote sins ( it can be music, videos etc ) and stop the good. and then he said more worst time will come in which there will be diffrence btw good and bad deed.

(plz its just the lesson in hadiths, not exaact traslation).

similarly there are many hadiths in which these things are pridicted that there will be music in every home. what i want to say in there are now 2 approaches.
1. we try to tend islam according to current situation of some ppl of the world. eg i know now a days every one is directly or indirectly indulge in "interest" so based on this fact, we cant change the "interest" as halal. or if someone say there is no concept of life without music in america, so lets review its halal or haram for ppl of america.
2. we should not fall in fitna and still consider haram as haram and halal as halal. even we cant saved ourself from these (eg interest). our deen is complete and it guides us upto the day of qiyama, in hadith the solution to this pbm was told that we do istaghfar in abundance.

the question
How practical does all this sound?
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. i am not saying i am very pious but i never see movies, we have no tv in home, i dont have pictures (only 3-4 passposrt size), i dont see islamic lectures, i never listen nasheeds. even if i do all these and yes sometime i also make this sinsbut that dont mean it bcm halal.
i know many ppl personally who even dont use cell phone, internet etc....can u blv life without this ?

and allah swt knowa the best in all matters. my purpose of this post is not to offend anyone but just realize/learn/disscus what is right.
 
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