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sabr*
10-18-2011, 01:21 PM
As Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

A video that has been somehow removed from sites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98

Why don't the Monarchies and Kingdoms fund lobbying that
supports the interests of Palestine and Muslims?

Why is the Palestinian cause only used to stay in power and to manipulate?

Watch video before commenting!

Jazakumullahu Khair
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sabr*
10-18-2011, 02:47 PM
As Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Why are the so-called educated Muslims not advocates for
supporting the Palestinian cause beyond words?

Where is the advocacy?
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GuestFellow
10-18-2011, 09:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sabr*
As Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

A video that has been somehow removed from sites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N294FMDok98

Why don't the Monarchies and Kingdoms fund lobbying that
supports the interests of Palestine and Muslims?

Why is the Palestinian cause only used to stay in power and to manipulate?

Watch video before commenting!

Jazakumullahu Khair
:wa:

Monarchies and some Muslim countries cannot support the Palestinians because the Israel Lobby is more influential. Also, Israel is more popular than compared to Muslim countries and the Palestinians, so it would be easier to support Israel...even though Israeli interests are completely different to US interests.

I watched that video and read the book. The book is more interesting.

format_quote Originally Posted by sabr*
As Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Why are the so-called educated Muslims not advocates for
supporting the Palestinian cause beyond words?

Where is the advocacy?
There are Muslims that support Palestinians from all educational backgrounds.
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sabr*
10-19-2011, 05:20 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos
:wa:

Monarchies and some Muslim countries cannot support the Palestinians because the Israel Lobby is more influential.
Also, Israel is more popular than compared to Muslim countries and the Palestinians, so it would be easier to support Israel...
even though Israeli interests are completely different to US interests.
As Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Your answer or response is more revealing of the excuses that are made on behalf of the
Monarchies and dictators who receive billions from the West to suppress the Muslim voices.

Appreciate your allowing us to understand your view.
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ariginality
10-22-2011, 03:25 PM
Thank you for sharing the video.

format_quote Originally Posted by Tragic Typos
Monarchies and some Muslim countries cannot support the Palestinians because the Israel Lobby is more influential. Also, Israel is more popular than compared to Muslim countries and the Palestinians, so it would be easier to support Israel...even though Israeli interests are completely different to US interests.
Nobody started out being the most influential. If a pro-Palestinian lobby were started then power balance would progress. But the truth is that monarchies and kingdoms only have their own selfish interests at heart not the interest of the Ummah. So they will announce the cause to manipulate the minds of Muslims while they sell out to the West. The uprising against a person or leader who stands against Israel is so vast and extensive, because the Israeli lobby is entrenched, that nobody with money and power wants to risk what they have in this life. So instead, they use it as a political tool rather than truly standing behind the cause. :raging:
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sabr*
10-22-2011, 11:21 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ariginality
Thank you for sharing the video.



Nobody started out being the most influential. If a pro-Palestinian lobby were started
then power balance would progress. But the truth is that monarchies and kingdoms only
have their own selfish interests at heart not the interest of the Ummah. So they will announce
the cause to manipulate the minds of Muslims while they sell out to the West. The uprising
against a person or leader who stands against Israel is so vast and extensive, because the Israeli
lobby is entrenched, that nobody with money and power wants to risk what they have in this life.
So instead, they use it as a political tool rather than truly standing behind the cause. :raging:
As Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Akhi ariginality:

Alhamdulillah! We totally agree with your post. Surprised that the thread
wasn't closed because of speaking out against the Monarchies.

It is apparent that the conversation is in vogue to support the Arab
spring and autumn but the actual fact is that for over fifty years
the so-called intellectuals have supported openly the Kings and depots of
the West. In the same breath hate the West but not those receiving aid,
support and suppressing the people.
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GuestFellow
10-22-2011, 11:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ariginality

Nobody started out being the most influential.
Well at the moment, the Israel Lobby is very influential.

If a pro-Palestinian lobby were started then power balance would progress.
I doubt it unless Israel continues to behave badly and America's economy does not recover.

But the truth is that monarchies and kingdoms only have their own selfish interests at heart not the interest of the Ummah.
I agree.
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ariginality
10-26-2011, 08:00 AM
[QUOTE=Tragic Typos;1472127]Well at the moment, the Israel Lobby is very influential.



The Israeli lobby is perhaps THE MOST influential, that cannot be down played. That is not a reason to not have a counterbalancing Palestinian lobby that is backed by a powerful ummah. And that counterbalance begins somewhere. If a politician is pro Palestinian and the Israeli lobby is there to ensure he loses his position in office. We should be there to ensure his position remains secure.

Is there really any doubt that Israel will continue to behave badly? Check mark.
As far as the American economy is concerned, it doesn't appear to be going anywhere fast. Another option would be a shift in political control? There are multiple ways to achieve that end.
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sabr*
10-26-2011, 09:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ariginality

The Israeli lobby is perhaps THE MOST influential, that cannot be down played.
That is not a reason to not have a counterbalancing Palestinian lobby that is backed by a powerful ummah.
And that counterbalance begins somewhere. If a politician is pro Palestinian and the Israeli lobby is
there to ensure he loses his position in office. We should be there to ensure his position remains secure.

Is there really any doubt that Israel will continue to behave badly? Check mark.
As far as the American economy is concerned, it doesn't appear to be going anywhere fast.
Another option would be a shift in political control? There are multiple ways to achieve that end.
As Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Akhi ariginality:

You can count on the Israeli Lobby to assist in demonizing any support
for the Palestinian cause. The right wing conservatives are in full support of
Israel because of the military aid and defense contractors who
benefit from the boogieman that has always been created be it
in the cold war with Russia or Saddam Hussein weapons of mass lies, etc.
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