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tw009
02-09-2012, 07:04 AM
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I recently heard that Salat al shukr is an innovation, how true is this? can anyone clarify this?
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Muslim Woman
02-09-2012, 08:16 AM
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always heard that we should express our gratitude to Allah , thank Allah for His mercy to us . Extra salat is a way to worship Allah , to show our thanks to Him . How can it be an innovation ?

Prophet pbuh used to offer extra salat , so why can't we offer minimum 2 rakat salat if there is a good news ?

Looks like to me , some people try to prevent Muslims from gaining rewards from Allah.

And Allah Knows Best.
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Innocent Soul
02-09-2012, 01:42 PM
I don't know whether it's an innovation or not. I suggest you to perform two rakah nafil prayer with intention that you also want to thank Allah for whatever He has given you. :)
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tw009
02-09-2012, 09:20 PM
^ Yes that's what Iv been taught so I got confused when I heard about all that innovation stuff. I searched it up but didn't find anything that confirmed its biddah or anything.
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Abz2000
02-09-2012, 10:17 PM
the prophet pbuh is reported to have prayed 8 rakahs victory prayer after the conquest of Makkah,
prayer is prayer, you can pray nafl with any good intention, but when people start making special niyyah with special set names and slowly bwegin catergorizing it into wajib and sunnah and mustahab and put a condition that that should be said in the niyyah, that in my opinion is bid'ah (innovation).
the prophet pbuh wouldn't make the intention (niyyah) for the 4 rakahs before dhuhr by saying "dhuhr as-sunnah",
he pbuh would just pray. i mean, whos sunnah? would he say sunnah muhammad or sunnatirasoolullah?
no. the word sunnah actually means something. and all these written intentions which many chant without knowing the meaning are not niyyah, and didn't exist in the quran or hadith and some are even led to believe that ones prayer is invalid if the niyyah is not correctly recited as written in the book that someone wrote.
anyways, i digress


It was narrated that ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn ‘Abd al-Qaari’ said: I went out with ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) one night in Ramadaan to the mosque, and the people were scattered, with one man praying by himself and another with a group of men following his prayer. ‘Umar said: “I think that if I gather them behind one reader, it will be better.” Then he decided to unite them behind Ubayy ibn Ka’b.
Then I went out with him on another night, and the people were praying behind their reader. ‘Umar said: “What a splendid innovation this is.
But the prayer that they forget about and sleep is better than the one they are offering.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1906.

so we can see that certain things can be done for convenience etc, but to turn them into a compulsory ritual with unique characteristics and made up practices is what is frowned upon, and Allah (swt) knows best.
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Amat Allah
02-09-2012, 11:31 PM
There is no Salat Ashukur but Saj`dat Ashukur

Praise be to Allaah.
Sajdat al-Shukr is prescribed for anything that makes one happy, whether it is attaining some benefit or warding off some harm. The evidence (daleel) for this is to be found in the Ahaadeeth and Aathaar (reports). Among the Ahaadeeth is the Hadeeth of Abu Bakrah (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said that when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) heard any news that made him glad, he would fall down prostrating to Allaah, may He be exalted. (Reported by the five except al-Nisaa’i; al-Tirmidhi said, it is hasan ghareeb). According to the version narrated by Ahmad: he saw the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), when news reached him that his troops had prevailed over their enemy, he was lying with his head in ‘Aa’ishah’s lap, then he got up and fell in prostration. (Reported by Ahmad, 5/45; al-Haakim, 4/291).

Another hadeeth is that narrated by ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn ‘Awf, who said: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out to the place where the sadaqah (charitable donations) was kept, then he faced the Qiblah and fell in prostration, remaining like that for a long time. Then he raised his head and said, “Jibreel came to me with good news, he said, ‘Allaah says to you, “Whoever sends blessings on you, I will send blessings on him, and whoever sends greetings of peace to you, I will send greetings of peace to him,”’ so I prostrated in thankfulness to Allaah.” (Narrated by Ahmad. Al-Mundhiri said: the hadeeth of Sajdat al-Shukr came from the hadeeth of al-Baraa’ with a saheeh isnaad, and from the hadeeth of Ka’b ibn Maalik and others.)

The reports include the following:

Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) prostrated when he heard the news that Musaylimah had been killed. (Reported by Sa’eed ibn Mansoor in his Sunan).‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib prostrated when he found Dhu’l-Thadiyah among the Khawaarij. (Reported by Ahmad in al-Musnad)
Ka’b ibn Maalik prostrated at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when he was given the glad tidings that Allaah had accepted his repentance. (The story is agreed upon)
And Allaah is the source of strength. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions.


Al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah Li’l-Buhooth al-‘Ilmiyyah wa’l-Iftaa’, 7/266
http://islamqa.info/en/ref/5110/thankfulness

None is preventing anyone from worshipping Allah or getting closer to Him The Exalted but The basic principle with regard to acts of worship is tawqeef (i.e., doing nothing except that which is prescribed in the Qur’aan and Sunnah). So Allaah should not be worshipped except in the ways that He has prescribed.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever introduces anything into this matter of ours that is not part of it will have it rejected.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (2499) and Muslim (3242). According to a version narrated by Muslim: “Whoever does any action that is not part of this matter of ours will have it rejected.”

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Acts of worship are based on sharee’ah and following, not on whims and desires or innovations. Islam is based on two principles: that we do not worship anyone but Allaah alone, and we worship Him in the way that He prescribed on the lips of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and we do not worship Him on the basis of whims and desires or innovations. End quote from al-Fataawa al-Kubra (2/242).

It should be noted that the shaytaan is keen to make people fall into bid’ah (innovation), for several reasons: So that he will not be rewarded for these actions And so as to distract him from acting on the Sunnah, with the implication that the Lawgiver omitted something, as if the innovator has been guided to something to which Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and his companions were not guided.


And Yes , what was reported that the prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had prayed 8 rakahs after the conquest of Makkah is correct and it is victory prayer .May Allah bless ya brother for mentioning that...Ameeeen

We must only follow what Allah ordered us to follow and what He AlMighty sent His prophet Muhammad with (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him); to follow only Qur`aan and the correct, evident and has been proven Sunnah...

And If following a way which is not Muhammad`s way (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) then we assume our selves better than him and that he didn`t convey the message rightly (far it be from him Alyhi salawatu Allahi wa salamih).

How can a Muslim thank his Lord for His many blessings?


Praise be to Allaah.
Firstly: Thanks or gratitude means reciprocating kindness and giving praise to the one who has done good and kind things.

The one who is most deserving of thanks and praise from people is Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, because of the great favours and blessings that He has bestowed upon His slaves in both spiritual and worldly terms. Allaah has commanded us to give thanks to Him for those blessings, and not to deny them. He says (interpretation of the meaning):“Therefore remember Me (by praying, glorifying). I will remember you, and be grateful to Me (for My countless Favours on you) and never be ungrateful to Me”[al-Baqarah 2:152]

Secondly: The greatest ones who obeyed this command, and gave thanks to their Lord until they deserved to be described as shaakir and shakoor (thankful) are the Prophets and Messengers (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him). Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, Ibraaheem (Abraham) was an Ummah (a leader having all the good righteous qualities), or a nation, obedient to Allaah, Haneef (i.e. to worship none but Allaah), and he was not one of those who were Al‑Mushrikoon (polytheists, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allaah, and those who joined partners with Allaah).121. (He was) thankful for His (Allaah’s) Favours. He (Allaah) chose him (as an intimate friend) and guided him to a Straight Path (Islamic Monotheism — neither Judaism nor Christianity)”[al-Nahl 16:120, 121]

“O offspring of those whom We carried (in the ship) with Nûh (Noah)! Verily, he was a grateful slave”[al-Isra’ 17:3]

Thirdly: Allaah has mentioned some of the blessings that He has bestowed upon His slaves, and has commanded them to be grateful for them, and has told us that few of His slaves give thanks to Him: Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

1.“O you who believe (in the Oneness of Allaah — Islamic Monotheism)! Eat of the lawful things that We have provided you with, and be grateful to Allaah, if it is indeed He Whom you worship”[al-Baqarah 2:172]

2.“And surely, We gave you authority on the earth and appointed for you therein provisions (for your life). Little thanks do you give”[al-A’raaf 7:10]

3.“And among His Signs is this, that He sends the winds as glad tidings, giving you a taste of His Mercy (i.e. rain), and that the ships may sail at His Command, and that you may seek of His Bounty, in order that you may be thankful”[al-Room 31:46]

4.Among spiritual blessings, He mentions (interpretation of the meaning): “O you who believe! When you intend to offer As-Salaah (the prayer), wash your faces and your hands (forearms) up to the elbows, rub (by passing wet hands over) your heads, and (wash) your feet up to the ankles. If you are in a state of Janaaba (i.e. after a sexual discharge), purify yourselves (bathe your whole body). But if you are ill or on a journey, or any of you comes after answering the call of nature, or you have been in contact with women (i.e. sexual intercourse), and you find no water, then perform Tayammum with clean earth and rub therewith your faces and hands. Allaah does not want to place you in difficulty, but He wants to purify you, and to complete His Favour to you that you may be thankful”[al-Maa’idah 5:6] and there are many other blessings.

We have only mentioned some of these blessings here; listing all of them is impossible, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):“And He gave you of all that you asked for, and if you count the Blessings of Allaah, never will you be able to count them. Verily, man is indeed an extreme wrongdoer, a disbeliever (an extreme ingrate who denies Allaah’s Blessings by disbelief, and by worshipping others besides Allaah, and by disobeying Allaah and His Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم)”[Ibraaheem 14:34]

Then Allaah blessed us and forgave us our shortcomings in giving thanks for these blessings. He says (interpretation of the meaning):“And if you would count the Favours of Allaah, never could you be able to count them. Truly, Allaah is Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful”[al-Nahl 16:18]

The Muslim is always asking his Lord to help him to give thanks to Him, because were it not for Allaah’s helping His slave, he would not be able to give thanks. Hence it is prescribed in the saheeh Sunnah to ask for help from Allaah to give thanks to Him. It was narrated from Mu’aadh ibn Jabal that the Messenger of Allaah (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) took his hand and said: “O Mu’aadh, by Allaah I love you, by Allaah I love you.” Then he said, “I advise you, O Mu’aadh, do not fail following every prayer to say: O Allaah help me to remember You, thank You and worship You properly.” Narrated by Abu Dawood (1522) and al-Nasaa’i (1303); classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.

Gratitude for blessings is a cause of them being increased, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):“And (remember) when your Lord proclaimed: ‘If you give thanks (by accepting Faith and worshipping none but Allaah), I will give you more (of My Blessings); but if you are thankless (i.e. disbelievers), verily, My punishment is indeed severe’”[Ibraaheem 14:7]

Fourthly: How can a person thank his Lord for His great blessings? His gratitude should fulfil all the necessary conditions, which are gratitude of the heart, gratitude of the tongue and gratitude of the physical faculties. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:Gratitude may be in the heart, in submission and humility; on the tongue, in praise and acknowledgement; and in the physical faculties, by means of obedience and submission.Madaarij al-Saalikeen (2/246)

The details of that:

1.Gratitude of the heart: what is meant is that the heart senses the value of the blessings that Allaah has bestowed upon His slave, and fully acknowledges that the one who has bestowed these great blessings is Allaah alone, with no partner or associate. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):“And whatever of blessings and good things you have, it is from Allaah”[al-Nahl 16:53].

This acknowledgement is not mustahabb, rather it is obligatory. Whoever attributes these blessings to anyone other than Allaah has disbelieved. Shaykh ‘Abd al-Rahmaan al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: What man should do is attribute blessings to Allaah and acknowledge them fully. Thus he will attain complete Tawheed. Whoever denies the blessings of Allaah in his heart or on his tongue, is a kaafir and has nothing to do with Islam. Whoever affirms in his heart that all blessings come from Allaah alone, but verbally he sometimes attributes them to Allaah and sometimes attributes them to himself, or his actions, or the efforts of someone else -- as happens on the lips of many people -- this is something that the person must repent from, and he should not attribute blessings to anyone except their Creator, and he must strive to make himself do that, because faith and Tawheed cannot be attained except by attributing blessings to Allaah.

The gratitude which is the head of faith is based on three pillars: acknowledgement of the heart of all the blessings that Allaah has bestowed upon him, and upon others, and talking about them; praising Allaah for them; and using them to obey the One Who bestowed the blessings and to worship Him. Al-Qawl al-Sadeed fi Maqaasid al-Tawheed (p. 140) Allaah says, describing the situation of one who denies attribution of blessings to Allaah (interpretation of the meaning):“They recognise the Grace of Allaah, yet they deny it (by worshipping others besides Allaah) and most of them are disbelievers (deny the Prophethood of Muhammad صلىالله عليه وسلم)”[al-Nahl 16:83].

Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: i.e., they acknowledge that Allaah is the one who grants them that, and He is the one who bestows that favour upon them, yet despite that they deny it, and worship others alongside Him, and attribute victory and provision to someone other than Him.Tafseer Ibn Katheer (4/592).

2.As for gratitude of the tongue, it means acknowledging verbally - after believing in the heart- that the one who grants blessing is indeed Allaah, and keeping the tongue busy with praise of Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted. Allaah says, explaining His blessings to His slave Muhammad (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him): “And He found you poor and made you rich (self‑sufficient with self‑contentment)?” [al-Duha 93:8].

Then He reminded him in return for that: “And proclaim the Grace of your Lord (i.e. the Prophethood and all other Graces)” [al-Duha 93:11].

Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: i.e., as you were poor and in need, then Allaah made you rich and independent of means: then speak of the blessing of Allaah bestowed upon you.Tafseer Ibn Katheer (8/427).

It was narrated that Anas ibn Maalik said: the Messenger of Allaah (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) said: “Allaah is pleased with a person who eats some food and then praises Him for it, or who drinks some drink and then praises Him for it.”Narrated by Muslim (2734).

Abu’l-‘Abbaas al-Qurtubi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Praise here means gratitude, and we have seen above that praise may take the place of gratitude but gratitude may not take the place of praise. This indicates that gratitude for blessings -- even if they are few -- is a means of attaining the pleasure of Allaah, may He be exalted, which is the noblest situation of the people of Paradise. When the people of Paradise say, “You have given to us what You have not given to anyone among Your creation,” Allaah will say to them: “ Shall I not give you something better than that?” They will say, “What is it? Have You not brightened our faces, and admitted us to Paradise and saved us from Hell?” He will say, “ I bestow My pleasure upon you, and I will never be angry with you after that.”

Gratitude is a means of attaining that great honour because it implies acknowledgement of the Bestower of blessings and acknowledging Him alone as the Creator of that blessing and the One Who caused it to reach the recipient of the blessing, as an honour and favour from the Bestower, and that the recipient of the blessing is poor and is in need of that blessing, and cannot do without it. So this is an acknowledgement of the rights and bounty of Allaah, and the duty and need of the slave. So Allaah has caused the reward for that acknowledgement to be this great honour.Al-Mufhim lima ashkala min Talkhees Kitaab Muslim (7/60, 61).

Hence some of the salaf said: Whoever conceals a blessing has denied it, but whoever manifests it and spreads it has given thanks for it.

Ibn al-Qayyim said, commenting on that:This is based on the words: “When Allaah bestows a blessing upon a person, He loves the effect of His blessing to be seen on His slave.” Madaarij al-Saalikeen (2/246).

It was narrated from ‘Umar ibn ‘Abd al-‘Azeez (may Allaah have mercy on him) that he said: Remind one another of blessings, for mentioning them is gratitude.

3.Gratitude of the physical faculties means using one's physical faculties in obedience of Allaah and keeping them from committing sins and acts of disobedience that Allaah has forbidden. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):“ ‘Work you, O family of Dawood (David), with thanks!””[Saba’ 34:13]

It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah said: When the Messenger of Allaah (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him) prayed, he would stand for so long that his feet became swollen. ‘Aa’ishah said: O Messenger of Allaah, are you doing this when Allaah has forgiven your past and future sins? He said: “O ‘Aa’ishah, should I not be a thankful slave?” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (4557) and Muslim (2820).

Ibn Battaal (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Al-Tabari said: the correct view concerning that is that the person’s gratitude is affirming that this is from Allaah and no one else, and affirmation of this fact is action, and it is confirmed by action. As for the affirmation which is contradicted by action, the one who does that does not deserve to be called grateful at all. But it may be called gratitude of the tongue. The evidence that this is true is the words of Allaah (interpretation of the meaning): “ ‘Work you, O family of Dawood (David), with thanks!’”[Saba’ 34:13].

It is well known that He did not order them, when He said that to them, to affirm His blessings, because they did not deny that this was a favour from Him to them. Rather He commanded them to give thanks for His blessings by obeying Him in their actions. Similarly, the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allaah be upon him), when his feet swelled up as he was praying at night, said: “Should I not be a thankful slave?” Sharh Saheeh al-Bukhaari (10/183, 184).

Abu Haroon said: I entered upon Abu Haazim, and said to him: May Allaah have mercy on you, what is the gratitude of the eyes? He said: If you see something good with them, you mention it, and if you see something bad with them, you conceal it. I said: What is the gratitude of the ears? He said: If you hear something good with them, you remember it, and if you hear something bad with them, you forget it.

Ibn Rajab al-Hanbali (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: Gratitude is of two degrees, one of which is obligatory, which is doing obligatory actions and avoiding haraam things. This is essential and is sufficient as gratitude for these blessings. Hence one of the salaf said: Gratitude means giving up sin.

And one of them said: Gratitude means not using any blessing to help one to disobey Him. Abu Haazim al-Zaahid mentioned gratitude of all the physical faculties: (It means) refraining from sin, and using them to help one to do acts of obedience. Then he said: As for the one who gives thanks with his tongue but does not give thanks with all of his physical faculties, his likeness is that of a man who has a cloak and takes hold of the edge of it, but does not put it on, so it is of no benefit to him against cold or heat or snow or rain. The second degree of gratitude is that which is mustahabb, which is when, after doing obligatory actions and avoiding haraam things, a person does supererogatory acts of worship. This is the degree of those who have gone ahead and closer to Allaah. Jaami’ al-‘Uloom wa’l-Hukam (p. 245, 246)

Summary:

In order to be grateful to your Lord for the blessings that He has bestowed upon you, you must acknowledge in your heart that the giver of these blessings and the bestower is Allaah, may He be exalted, so you venerate Him, attribute it to Him, and you acknowledge that with your tongue, so you give thanks to Him after waking from sleep for having given new life, and after eating and drinking for having provided you with them and bestowed them upon you, and so on with every blessing that you see in your life.

You give thanks with your physical faculties by not letting them see or hear any sin or evil, such as singing or gossip; you do not walk with your feet to haraam places; you do not use your hands to commit evil, such as haraam writing in a relationship with non-mahram women, or writing haraam contracts, or making or doing anything haraam.

Giving thanks with the physical faculties for blessings also includes using them to obey Allaah, by reading Qur'aan and books of knowledge, listening to beneficial and useful things, and so on with all the faculties which you should use in various kinds of obedience and worship.

Remember that gratitude for blessings is a blessing which needs to be given thanks for, so that one will continue to enjoy the blessings of his Lord, thanking his Lord for those blessings and praising Him for helping him to be among those who give thanks. We ask Allaah, may He be exalted, to help us and you to do that which He loves and which pleases Him. And Allaah knows best.


http://islamqa.info/en/ref/125984/thankfulness

Why to get busy with such unproven things while our Deen is rich with so many of beautiful proved and correct acts of worshipping; that Allah loves and made for His slaves and servants to worship Him with so, they get closer to Him The Most Merciful and be from the winners?

laa ilaha illa Allah

This is my advice according to Allah`s Shariaa so, its up to you if wana take it or not; still brothers and sisters for Allah`s sake no matter what.


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