sheikh: The prophet PBUH said that your cure will not be in that which was prohibited to you
host: so reliance on jinn is haram.
sheikh: 100% haram
sheikh: if another scholar should permit it I'd not mind make it a judicial issue, this is a definitive issue a consensus amongst all scholars
host: so if someone says there's a fatwa or ibn taymiah said so and so
sheikh: Did the prophet PBUH ever use Jinn? he didn't use them .. it is a lie to say otherwise and a lie against the scholars not in badr not in any battle and that is a consensus amongst all schools of thought
host: so according to the hanafis not permissible to say this is a good Jinn that aids people or helps cure etc.
sheikh: absolutely not
host: one time I heard that one can use this form of 'magic' to break evil black eye magic etc.
sheikh: that's a lie .. impossible, whoever passed such a fatwa has nothing to do with religion or is jaded..like I already states that the prophet PBUH said you can't have your cure in that which ails you .. if I am possessed how can I use another prohibition to break that doing?
Allah swt already armed us with al'ikhlas walmo3wathtyen and granted us for this Roqya shar3ya so now I'll use shirk and kufr to undo shirk and kufr?
Host.. that indeed clarifies things but what of astrology and numerology and stones and tarots
sheikh: I'll summarize this for you in a hadith and I al7mdlillah never take a step without citing it directly from Quran and Sunnah .. the prophet PBUH said whomever uses knowledge of the stars has used a fiber of magic/sihr .. so let me ask.. how can one use the stars? does a star know what will happen to me?
host: what about spirituality or paranormal science
sheikh: exactly what is meant by spirituality here?
host: will man is spirit and body
host: so that's what is meant that which has to do with the spirit
sheikh: no that's not what is intended .. man is indeed body and spirit and if they're together they form the 'nafs' the being as Allah swt states:
Wama jaAAalnahum jasadan la yakuloona alttaAAama wama kanoo khalideena
21:8 Nor did We give them bodies that ate no food, nor were they exempt from death.
the nourishment of the body is food, water and the nourishment of the soul is what? worship yes?
sheikh: as such the origin of the spirit is from the heavens and the origin of the body is the earth so the body tried to attract the spirit to all that is base and earthy so whenever your desires become base and earthy the more your spirit is pulled down .. however whenever you elevate your spirit with worship the less base desires you have and eventually you bring your body to the high malakoot (to the higher kingdom)
as such the question of body and spirit is never tempered except with shar3 (Islam) ..
the prophet PBUH said that your body has a right over you, your spouse has a right over you and the prophet PBUH also said if you fast the whole year you haven't fasted because you have not tempered all matters in balance
host: sheikh I get thousands of calls of people who want to undo 'black magic' 'evil eye' etc and we notice people hang all their problems on the hanger of 'black magic' or 'evil eye' .. even my wife is like that :hmm: whenever things get difficult she'll say someone did something but I am sure she's kidding but people tend to do that but nonetheless we see a rise in that morning and nights how do we fix this problem? how do I fix even when someone allegedly uses the Quran?
sheikh: one time the prophet PBUH saw children who have yellow faces and he asked what is with them, and their mother said that evil eye has been given them and the prophet PBUH said irqeehim directly to the mother so the mother said please you do it, but he PBUH said you do it. why would he say that? So he'd teach mankind self reliance, faith .. you must delegate your affairs to Allah.. and for that Amr ibn il'as went to the prophet and complained of flank pain and the prophet PBUH could have easily put his hand and did a reading but the prophet PBUH said put your hand where you're in pain and say 'a3ooth be3izzat Allah bema ajid wa o7athir' x 7 .. the prophet PBUH taught him wa man yatawakkal 3la Allah fa hwa hasboh..
ok will continue after isha insha'Allah