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Snowflake
06-12-2012, 08:11 PM
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If you have pain in the upper abdomen to the right and sometimes centre, and it gets worst after eating. Your upper stomach is distended and even lying down is uncomfortable/painful, there's no vomiting or heartburn but even eating and drinking a little causes food to come back up, does that point to a problem with the gall bladder or pancreas? Even water comes back up. I Googled both but was none the wiser.
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Muhaba
06-12-2012, 08:42 PM
why don't you see a doctor? could be liver problem or apendicitis. i'm no doctor so can't tell but the pain related to these is to the right side. where exactly i don't know and what other symptoms it has i have no idea.

so you should see a doctor who'll give you a correct diagnosis. don't try self-diagnosis and don't sit around doing nothing as some of them can be fatal if not treated. apendicitis for example, may need instant surgery or it may burst. so see your doctor immediately.
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Snowflake
06-12-2012, 10:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by WRITER
why don't you see a doctor? could be liver problem or apendicitis. i'm no doctor so can't tell but the pain related to these is to the right side. where exactly i don't know and what other symptoms it has i have no idea.

so you should see a doctor who'll give you a correct diagnosis. don't try self-diagnosis and don't sit around doing nothing as some of them can be fatal if not treated. apendicitis for example, may need instant surgery or it may burst. so see your doctor immediately.
I'm waiting for an ultrasound scan but it will be about 6-8 weeks before I get an appointment. I want to start treating myself with alternative meds straight away, as they can also prevent a problem from worsening. GP's don't take the time to ask about all your symptoms, but a trained professional online (we have sis Lamees and a trainee doc here masha Allah) may be able to spot the difference from reading the details of my symptoms. Al hamdulillah, it's definitely not appendicitis. The pain is high up and I've had it since last year. My doctor thinks it may be gallstones but is not sure.
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CosmicPathos
06-12-2012, 11:12 PM
Do you have fever? Pancreatitis (acute) is usually accompanied by fever, epigastric pain (above navel and below xiphoid process) and is referred to your back, among other symptoms and signs.

Gallstones can give acute pain in the form of cholecystitis that is on right upper quadrant of abdomen (below the right side of ribs around the liver area), the pain can also be referred to shoulder blade. Moreover, you could have fever as well (severe fever actually is cholangitis). Murphy's sign would be positive in cholecystitis (gall bladder inflammation!) There are other signs as well. you could have jaundice, nausea, vomiting, clay colored stools etc.

You need to see a doc to determine problem.Ap

Appendicitis mostly doesnt give upper quadrant pain, rather would give lower quadrant pain/tenderness. Rovsing's sign, tenderness at mcburney's point, psoas sign etc would all be positive in appendicitis.
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dqsunday
06-12-2012, 11:25 PM
Why will it take 6-8 weeks for an ultrasound? When I needed one done to check my liver, I was able to get it the next morning. I just went to a nearby testing center. An ultrasound isn't a very expensive or complex piece of machinery, you can buy one for about $2000 or less actually. I can see an MRI taking 6-8 months to get done but not an ultrasound.

As for your GP not bothering asking for your symptons, why not just write them all down and hand it to him/her?

Pain in the gut can be all kinds of things, even something as simple as a toothpick embedded in the intestinal wall.
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BadOlPuttyTat
06-13-2012, 01:14 AM
I have had this exact same issue yesterday. Very painful and last for hours but I am ok now though. Are you sure it isnt just something you ate perhaps or muscle cramps? Muscle cramps or soreness is worst in the neck and stomach trust me.
and 6-8 WEEKS FOR AN ULTRASOUND! ARE YOU KIDDING WITH ME! I had to get an ultrasound on my testes and it took 4 days. Is the medical system that bad int he UK? Here I thought it sucked but now I feel better ;D . But I think someone is seriously messing with you ^o) . If you dont pressure these people you will be put on hold till the day you die. Medical offices are very lazy and I know it for a fact. My mother just changed offices a month ago because of this long time doctor we had and his staff DID nothing. She got a new office and was exammined in 2 days while they handles 6 cancer patients and 8 other people and this wasnt even a hospital! At the old office we waited for my ultrasounds and x ray results and took them 2 weeks then they "lost" it. But they received it in just 2 days! His staff would always be talking and making pranks and would curse patients out if they asked for something. These people did nothing and worked 2 doctors to death (in one case literally). If a medical staff is being lazy and showing you no respect you better raise hell and anything else below it. People dont respect you until you get on them about it. But if it is out of your hands then you cant do anything naturally and cant complain. I am one for peace and all but laziness, lying and lack of respect are things I cannot stand because it destroys people more then any disease on earth.
But no office is so busy that it takes 6-8 weeks!
NO OFFICE unless it is int he US army! So please check and make sure your not being pushed aside because I want you to be better!
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جوري
06-13-2012, 03:25 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by CosmicPathos
Do you have fever? Pancreatitis (acute) is usually accompanied by fever, epigastric pain (above navel and below xiphoid process) and is referred to your back, among other symptoms and signs.

Gallstones can give acute pain in the form of cholecystitis that is on right upper quadrant of abdomen (below the right side of ribs around the liver area), the pain can also be referred to shoulder blade. Moreover, you could have fever as well (severe fever actually is cholangitis). Murphy's sign would be positive in cholecystitis (gall bladder inflammation!) There are other signs as well. you could have jaundice, nausea, vomiting, clay colored stools etc.

You need to see a doc to determine problem.Ap

Appendicitis mostly doesnt give upper quadrant pain, rather would give lower quadrant pain/tenderness. Rovsing's sign, tenderness at mcburney's point, psoas sign etc would all be positive in appendicitis.

very good.. there's is also a terrible pentad that can happen if left neglected and an infection ensues..
Anyhow most people won' go looking for Rosvig's or a Mcburney or a Psoas heck even the physical exam is a dying art.. don't understand why it should take so long for a US?
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Snowflake
06-14-2012, 01:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by CosmicPathos
Do you have fever? Pancreatitis (acute) is usually accompanied by fever, epigastric pain (above navel and below xiphoid process) and is referred to your back, among other symptoms and signs.

Gallstones can give acute pain in the form of cholecystitis that is on right upper quadrant of abdomen (below the right side of ribs around the liver area), the pain can also be referred to shoulder blade. Moreover, you could have fever as well (severe fever actually is cholangitis). Murphy's sign would be positive in cholecystitis (gall bladder inflammation!) There are other signs as well. you could have jaundice, nausea, vomiting, clay colored stools etc.

You need to see a doc to determine problem.Ap

Appendicitis mostly doesnt give upper quadrant pain, rather would give lower quadrant pain/tenderness. Rovsing's sign, tenderness at mcburney's point, psoas sign etc would all be positive in appendicitis.
I get fever regularly but it’s due to fatigue. The pain is where you said, right upper quadrant. Yet there is extreme pressure/pulling/tugging/bloating /distension below sternum which results in back pain (kidney area) which makes me wonder about pancreatitis. There’s no vomiting or nausea in general. No yellowing of the eyes/skin. Lifted a heavy water melon the other day, put it down immediately but the damage was done. The pressure on my upper abdomen made me feel I was gonna die.


As to the gallbladder pain, the good news is the eating mint /parsley leaves and bishop’s weed seeds (ajwain) provides relief al hamdulillah. And if it is gall stones, insha Allah there are alternative remedies to bust them.



@dqsunday
It's not the same in the UK. We have long waiting lists for most referrals. People die waiting. Having an US machine sounds fun but there'd be no point having it if you don't know what to look for lol.


format_quote Originally Posted by لميس
very good.. there's is also a terrible pentad that can happen if left neglected and an infection ensues..
Anyhow most people won' go looking for Rosvig's or a Mcburney or a Psoas heck even the physical exam is a dying art.. don't understand why it should take so long for a US?
My aunt from pakistan is worried sick about me. She thinks we can walk into a hospital and get scans/xrays the same day and doesn't understand the system here. I guess that's the price you pay for having the NHS pay for your treatments.
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جوري
06-14-2012, 01:38 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Snowflake
My aunt from pakistan is worried sick about me. She thinks we can walk into a hospital and get scans/xrays the same day and doesn't understand the system here. I guess that's the price you pay for having the NHS pay for your treatments.
Did someone assess you physically first? Most people with gallstones just live with them believe it or not, it is only under certain circumstances that they're removed, if they cause obstruction or are too symptomatic etc.
of course put the idea of pancreatits out your mind it is for starters retroperitoneal tearing pain and favors alcoholics although having gallstones can cause it too amongst other things.. Many people have gallstones and don't even know it.. Try to take alot of fluids for now..
if you do have a fever above 100 Fahrenheit accompanied with chills & rigors then just go to the emergency room, no sense waiting for a scan.
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Muhaba
06-14-2012, 09:48 AM
UK medical system stinks!
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جوري
06-14-2012, 01:31 PM
Every medical system stinks I assure....
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~ Sabr ~
06-14-2012, 01:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by WRITER
UK medical system stinks!
It is FREE. If it was paid, then it wouldn't stink.
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جوري
06-14-2012, 01:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Haafizah
It is FREE. If it was paid, then it wouldn't stink.
But then who could afford to pay? the prices are very prohibitive that folks forgo healthcare all together.. It is then healthcare for the very rich and the very poor you're not allowed to get sick basically.. an ultrasound would run you around $800 and forget about the actual procedure to remove it.
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Scimitar
06-14-2012, 02:08 PM
It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“In the black seed is healing for every disease except death.”
Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5364; Muslim, 2215.

The Black seed can be used for:

Diabetes

Over reactive Immune System
(allergies, rheumatism, M.S., leukaemia, hayfever and asthma)

Hormone System (P.M.S.)

Allergic Skin Diseases (inflammations, edemas, nettle rash, acne & eczema)

Neurodermitis

Digestive Problems

Cough, Colds & Flu

Tumors


Intestinal Parasites (worms; amoeba)

Liver and Gall bladder complaints

Kidney and Bladder problems

Bladder inflammation

Rheumatic and Arthritic pain

Bruises and injuries

Weak concentration, mental exhaustion, lethargy, confusion

High Blood Pressure

Colic in babies

Sinusitis

The Benefits of Antioxidants In Black Seed
Many studies have displayed the antioxidant activity of Black seed. Antioxidants are substances that may protect cells from the damage caused by unstable molecules known as free radicals.
Free radical damage may lead to cancer. Antioxidants stabilize free radicals preventing the beginning of many illnesses. Black seed is also known to stabilise superoxide which is one of the stronger free radicals.


Healthy Recipes
Black seed is commonly used in the kitchen in the orient because of it's peppery and onion taste and when heated, it imparts an aroma strong, yet pleasing, like oregano or cumin, this is combined with the healing effects of the seed. A teaspoon of blackseed in your cooking also makes the food taste better.

Modern research has confirmed the traditional uses of black seed for the following:


  • Analgesic: Relieves or dampens sensation of pain.
  • Anthelmintic: (Also know as vermicide or vermifuge.) Destroys and expels intestinal worms.
  • Anti-bacterial: Destroys or inhibits the growth of destructive bacteria.
  • Anti-Inflammatory: Reduces inflammation.
  • Anti-Microbial: Destroys or inhibits the growth of destructive microorganisms.
  • Antioxidant: Prevents or delays the damaging oxidisation of the body's cells - particularly useful against free radicals.
  • Anti-Pyretic: (Also known as ferbrifuge.) Exhibits a 'cooling action', useful in fever reduction.
  • Anti-spasmodic: Prevents or eases muscle spasms and cramps.
  • Anti-tumour: Counteracts or prevents the formation of malignant tumours.
  • Carminative: Stimulates digestion and induces the expulsion of gas from the stomach and the intestines.
  • Diaphoretic: Induces perspiration during fever to cool and stimulate the release of toxins.
  • Diuretic: Stimulates urination to relieve bloating and rid the body of any excess water.
  • Digestive: Stimulates bile and aids in the digestive process.
  • Emmenagogue: Stimulates menstrual flow and activity.
  • Galactogogue: Stimulates the action of milk in new mothers.
  • Hypotensive: Reduces excess blood pressure.
  • Immunomodulator: Suppresses or strengthens immune system activity as needed for optimum balance.
  • Laxative: Causes looseness or relaxation of the bowels.

This is an extensive list and explains the popularity of this product in the Orient. Not only used by the populace but also by the Ayurvedic system of medicine and the Unani Tibb (natural medicines). Research has also confirmed why this herb has been held with so much respect.

Prevention is better than cure

This is a natural remedy and only for digestive complaints, minor skin problems and simple illnesses, e.g. colds, basic allergies etc. will the effects of the oil be quickly felt. My sister who was in stress and had no appetite soon retained her interest in eating after a spoonful of the oil.

For acute symptoms the oil can be slow and should be taken over a long term. Acute symptoms often result from the body being rundown due to stess, bad diet etc. We need to build our body back to be able to support itself.

Black seed oil finds the problems in the body (mainly by strengthening and rebalancing the immune system) and solves them giving the body the strength to defend and fight against disease. Generally the oil should be taken to support severe problems from at least 3 months to even 6 months.

Dosage
For those just beginning to take the oil initially one should take: 1 teaspoon 3 times daily for 2-3 weeks
and thereafter a teaspoon 2 times daily.

This dosage may be increased when illness falls upon us. As much as it is advisable to take it continually, it is also advisable to sometimes not take it for a couple of weeks so the body doesn't take it for granted.

For those taking capsules (some people find the oil far too pungent) the equivalent of 2 capsules amounts to one teaspoon of oil.

Of course we are all different, some of us can take lots more than others. John Claydon who runs a health food supplements mail catalogue describes his first experience with the blessed seed oil.


Description

"I had been searching this oil for a long time after hearing so much about it. I took the oil for 3 days. Now I take a lot of supplements already but I didn't know how much rubbish I had left in me.
I started taking about 2-3 desert spoons a day. Within 48 hours the cleaning process was very deep, it cleared out the kidneys and the liver, it went really deep. It went straight to the liver, it is an excellent liver flush.
It is a fantastic product, we are very happy with it here. I have been on it ever since, I take a maintenance dose of 1 teaspoon a day."


Regenerative Nutrition
Children aged 12 and under should take half the suggested dose for adults and infants half of the children's dose.

During food allergies the dosage should be taken cautiously so as not to cause over powerful reactions. Everyone's susceptibility to the oil is different and one should be sensitive to what one feels is good for oneself and use the above as a general guideline.
Black seed oil has proved to be an excellent healer, and its areas of application range from external skin care (psoriasis, eczema, acne, dry skin, joints & scalp massage) and to internal use as a treatment for various complaints (asthma, arthritis, immune system).


Research
Researchers are constantly examining the benefits of black seed oil and other herbal remedies in the treatment of many ailments for two main reasons.
One is to conclude that who use these alternative medicines will not be at risk of detrimental side effects.

The other is to prove the effectiveness of natural remedies, because available pharmaceutical remedies are for certain ailments limited, may have bad side effects and can even be ineffective in the long term.

Research on the benefits of black seed oil is considered preliminary, as most studies have been carried out on animals, but the results are promising. Indeed the FDA have patented extracts of black seed in 3 separate cases and in 2 other separate cases they have patented it in combination with other herbs.
Black seed has also been patented in the UK.
Asthma
The concept of black seed being used to assist sufferers of asthma is indeed an interesting possibility. The fact that it took Germany by storm after curing a famous racehorse certainly empowered the notion of how well herbal remedies can work.

Dr. Peter Schleicher a top Immunologist in Munich, Germany saw that his daughter´s famous show horse, "Baronesse" was dramatically cured from serious asthma by black seed. He then applied black seed to a prominent German politician. When he was also completely cured the Dr. took the seed to serious study and was the head of 5 major research studies on this ancient herb.
The Dr. took oil capsules of black seed into a trial of 600 patients who were suffering from allergies. 70% of patients with allergies such as pollen and dust allergies, asthma and neuro-dermitis were cured.

Tumours
Herbal remedies and alternative medicine are becoming redicovered as a real solution to restore and sustain good health. Research has identified black seed as being highly beneficial in the treatment of removing tumours.

Dr. Peter Schleicher a top Immunologist in Munich, Germany saw that his daughter´s famous show horse, "Baronesse" was dramatically cured from serious asthma by black seed. He then applied black seed to a prominent German politician. When he was also completely cured the Dr. took the seed to serious study and was the head of 5 major research studies on this ancient herb.
The Black seed has been treated as serious remedy for clearing tumours and has been patented by the FDA in USA in 2 separate cases for the treatment of cancer and other conditions and the prevention of the side affects of anti cancer chemo-therapy and to support the immune system.

(One must be aware that these patents are for extracts of the black seed and are not patents for our products)

In other studies made it was found that this herb diminishes toxic side effects caused by several other chemotherapeutic drugs. Extracts from the seeds were toxic to tumour cells and prevent blood cell toxicity caused by the anti-cancer drug cisplatin. The active components of black seed, thymoquinoline and dithymoquinone have been shown to inhibit tumour cells, even tumour cells resistant to anti-tumour drugs.

Diabetes
Diabetes is the number one nutritional problem in US. This is mainly caused by bad diet which creates excess fat. Being obese or overweight is the main cause of Diabetes Type II.
There have been numerous research papers confirming the benefits of black seed for diabetes. The well known physician and herbalist Muhammed Salim Khan confirmed the benefits of Black seed with human subjects. The best results with diabetes may be obtained by combining black seed oil with a good diet. One should contact ones physician as studies have shown that black seed oil reduces blood glucose levels significantly. One should avoid over fatty foods and add fresh fruits in the diet.

Colon Cleanse
A colon cleanse is a special issue for black seed oil. A blocked intestinal tract can lead to many other illnesses, as Paracelsus said, "Death is found in the intestines."

Due to our intake of more and more processed foods, fast foods etc, we subject our intestines to foods that are difficult to breakdown. On top of this with the addition of chemicals in foods, in the air and in tap water we overload ourselves leading to toxin bulid up.

Black seed oil can be used as a therapy due to its anti bacterial quality and because of its content of volatile oil (anti microbial) which cleans the intestinal tract due to nigellin and saponin melathin.

Candida
Candida is becoming more and more common. This may well have something to do with the fashion of ladies not wearing sufficient clothing. Consequently they are exposed to the cold air which can create infection. Studies with black seed have shown it to be a healthy remedy against this ailment.
In studies of black seed against candida it was confirmed that Black seed extracts produce antimicrobial activity against a broad range of microbes and especially on multiple antibiotic resistant bacteria.

Horses and Pets
One should not be too surprised to find nigella sativa as an animal health supplement. Presently in Germany, Switzerland and Austria there are numerous companies specialising in nigella sativa products especially for horses.
Horses and pets, like ourselves are open to sickness. By administering black seed into the feed one stabilises and strengthens the all important immune system.

Presently there is a major company in the UK which supplies an ayurvedic formula with a 20% content of black seed. This is for the treatment of horses with Laminitis, Equine Cushings Disease, Diabetes and Insulin resistance.

Over reactive immune system
This can lead to allergic reactions and rheumatic diseases. Black seed has powerful anti-inflammatory, bronchial-dilating and anti-histamine properties, and as such is an excellent agent against allergic reactions and states.

In allergic conditions, the excessive T cell function and the excessive humoral immune reaction of the B cells is largely stabilised.

The hypersensitivity (excessive immune reaction) to protein components of pollen is reduced.
The active substance, nigellon, is vasodilative and stimulates secretion.

Asthmatics achieve a significantly improved lung volume, have fewer problems with shortness of breath and secretion is improved.
Also chronic disease like multiple sclerosis and leukemia can be relieved.

Direction: 0.5 – 1 teaspoon of black seed oil taken 2-3 times a day for 20 days thereafter 1 teaspoon daily for 3 – 6 months.

Infection of the respiratory system. Cough, asthma, hayfever, sinusitus, colds
Because of black seed oil's contents nigellone and thymiquinone it has a secretion-dissolving and vasodilating effect therefore strongly relaxing the respiratory system.

It's bronchodilating effect opens passageways in the lungs allowing more oxygen to pass through. This can be amazing when one has been blocked up.
Combined with it's supportive role of the immune system black seed oil has been very beneficial in these applications.

Direction:Apply black seed oil to the chest and back. Mix a teaspoon of black seed oil in boiling water and inhale the vapour twice a day. Take a teaspoon of black seed oil in the morning and in the evening.

For hay fever begin taking a teaspoon of black seed oil in the morning and in the evening 3-4 weeks prior to the pollen season.

Flu & nasal congestion
Placing three to four drops of black seed oil in each nostril can relieve nasal congestion and head cold distress.
During infection take 2-3 teaspoons a day.


Liver and Gall bladder problems

The warming and bitter principles seem to penetrate into blockages in the body and rapidly instigate normalisation. Also saponins strengthen the liver function and promote bile secretion.
Take 2-3 teaspoons of black seed oil for 2 weeks.

Gall stones & kidney stones

The component nigellin promotes the function of the liver and kidneys (gallbladder)
Their anti spasmodic effects are said to be useful in the case of gallstones, excessive acids are broken down due to increased kidney activity and bile secretion which helps relieve inflammation.

Prepare a formulation of 250g of ground black seed & 250g pure honey, stir thoroughly before use. Take two tablespoons of this formulation and mix thoroughly with half a cup of hot water. Finally add one teaspoon of black seed oil. This mixture should be taken every morning before consuming any food.



For Hypertension
Black seed helps lower blood pressure; it releases excess fluid and relieves arterial pressure. Thymoquinone contains strong anti oxidant properties which benefit cardiovascular complaints. Prostoglandin E1 (black seed stimulates its production in the body) has been proven to lower blood pressure.

Take half teaspoon of Black seed oil with any hot drink at any time. Take 2 lobes of garlic on empty stomach. Apply Black seed oil to your whole body and expose it to the sun every three days where possible. (This is a typical remedy in Middle Eastern countries)
For Backache and Rheumatic pains.
Many types of rheumatism belong to the auto-immune group of diseases and indicate a deficient immune system.Rheumatics often suffer from intestinal mycosis and the formation of too many acid toxins. Black seed oil has an anti-inflammatory effect, reduces crystallisation and improves blood circulation in the painful areas of the body.
Warm the oil slightly and apply to the area thoroughly and massage into the affected area and drink 1 teaspoon oil twice daily.

Diarrhoea
Eat white boiled rice with a cup of yoghurt. Drink 2 teaspoons of black seed oil until the problem ceases.

Gastrointestinal complaints
Flatulence, heartburn, constipation, intestinal fungi.Black seed oil contains saponin melanthin and the bitter principle nigellin, both having strong eliminating qualities cleaning the intestines and also increasing urine secretion therefore releasing more toxins.

Intestinal Parasites
It has been proven to be Anthelmintic, an agent that destroys or causes the expulsion of parasitic intestinal worms.

Stomach complaints
Black seed oil has digestive and flatulence inhibiting effects. It may also be used in cases of heartburn.
Take 1 teaspoon 2-3 times a day. Drink mint tea with lemon. For children, 1 cup of hot milk sweetened with honey and 1 teaspoon of black seed oil.

Vomiting
In Ayurveda black seeds are roasted and taken in a mixture with molasses.


Dry Cough
Rub the chest and back with the blessed seed oil.


For Heart complaints & Constriction of Veins
Take 1 teaspoon of the oil mixed with any hot drink in the mornings and in the evenings, this has been known to break down the fats and widen the veins and arteries.


Inflammation of the Nose and Throat
Put a few drops of oil in to a cup of boiling water and inhale the vapour. Take half a teaspoon of oil with lemon juice daily.


Neurodermatitis, Eczema and Psoriasis
The ingredients of black seed oil heal inflammation of the skin and alleviate itching. Sebaceous glands and sweat glands are able to work better again.

The balance is restored to the immune system. Heartburn is usually reduced to a minimum within 10 days or disappears altogether. The active ingredient thymoquinone encourages the bile flow and increases toxins to be released.

Direction: 0.5 – 1 teaspoon of black seed oil taken 2-3 times a day for 20 days thereafter 1 teaspoon daily for 3 – 6 months.


For Headache
Black seed oil is confirmed to ease headaches by regulating the hormonal system, promoting prostaglandin effect and increasing elimination of uric acid.

Apply black seed oil to the forehead and the temples, because of essential oils detoxification occurs creating better circulation. Take 1 teaspoon of black seed oil daily and continue until symptoms diminish.

Ear ache
Mix ½ teaspoon of oil with ½ teaspoon of olive oil, warm and then drip into the ear and cover with a shawl or a woolen hat.

Colic in babies
Warm oil in hand, massage the whole abdomen with it stroking clockwise.

Lack of concentration, weak spirit
This can apply to simple disspiritidness but can also be the beginning of senile dementia. Black seed oil's stimulation of prostaglandin E1 activity has a regulating effect on the brain and in older people is a useful tonic to take daily.Drink 1 glass of 100% fruit juice with 1 teaspoon of black seed oil for 2 weeks, take 1-2 teaspoons of black seed oil daily.

To increase lactation in mothers
The seeds' galactagogue action
– increasing the milk flow
– has been verified on a study using rats whilst a study on humans has yielded positive results on its immunopotentiating role. Drink 1 cup of nigella tea 3 times daily. (see 10 Black cumin in the kitchen)

For menopause
Drink nigella tea regularly. Steep the seeds in very hot (not boiling) water for 5 minutes. Take 2-3 teaspoons of black seed oil daily.

Gum inflammation and Toothache
Black seeds anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory and pain killing effect helps in these symptoms.
Rub infected area with black seed oil.2, take 1 teaspoon as a mouth rinse, rinse through the teeth and mouth for 3-5 minutes then spit out and thoroughly clean mouth as the oil will be full of toxins.

Haemorrhoids
Usually arise from poor diets and intestinal toxins.
Direction: 0.5 – 1 teaspoon of black seed oil taken 2-3 times a day for 20 days thereafter 1 teaspoon daily for 3 – 6 months.

Bruises and injuries
Black seed oil when applied externally creates detoxification and better circulation because of essential oils. Also penetrates into deeper tissue and accelerates healing.
Massage into affected area and take 1 teaspoon 2-3 times daily.

Beauty Care
Naturally for care of beauty we must primarily take care of health. Black seed oil has been used by Cleopatra and Queen Nefertete (who was famous for her bronze like complexion) and was also administered by Pliny for restoring and maintaining beauty.
The essential oil of black seed provides cleansing and purifying qualities while the EFA content make it a wonderful moisturiser for both skin and hair. Black seed supports cell renewal, connective tissues are strengthened, blood supply to the skin is stimulated and the skin is revitalised.
Mix ½ teaspoon of black seed oil with ½ teaspoon of olive oil and apply to the face avoiding eyes. Leave for 15 minutes and then wash off with warm water.

Hair Care
Black seed strengthens the scalp and hair follicles. Apply black seed oil to the scalp (for problem hair can also massage into the hair.) and leave for ½ hour. Then wash out thoroughly.

Animal Care
Black seed oil is a famous product in Germany, Switzerland and Austria for animal health care especially horses. Black seed oil is said to have the following properties for treating animals; Improves circulation, digestion, flatulence, purifying, cellulite, euphoric, relieves fatigue & pain. Analgesic, Antibacterial, Anti-inflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiseptic, Antispasmodic, Antitoxic, Aperitif, Aphrodisiac, Emmenagogue.

For cats and dogs administer ½-1 teaspoon of oil to food, for horses 2-3 teaspoons. This relieves respiratory ailments, allergic reactions and parasites of all kinds. Also the animals skin should begin to shine with health.

External application, steep black seed in water for 1 hour then spray on coat before grooming for gleaming hair and skin, improved circulation and to protect from or dispel fleas. 20-30 drops may be directly applied to ease hoof inflammations.


Household Remedy.
Black cumin oil is safe enough to use as a household remedy for almost every ailment from stomach ache, insect stings, allergies, colds, flu, bruises, hair loss, lethargy etc.. (While black seed has been found safe to be taken with all other medicines it should only not be taken during pregnancy.)


Practitioners Remedy
This wonder herb is also powerful enough to be used at a Practitioners level with astounding versatility. It is used for serious diseases such as asthma, diabetes, colon cleanse, candida, immune system disorders, hepatitis, AIDS and even cancer.


FDA Patent
It has now 5 seperate patents in the US for the treatment of 1) Diabetes (US 6,042,834), 2) for inhibition of cancer cell growth (US 5,653,981), 3) Improvement of the Immune System (US 5,482,711), 4) Viral Infections (US 6,841,174) and 5) Psoriasis (US 6,531,164).
In the UK there is a patent of black seed for the treatment of asthma, Patent EP1709995.

I hope this was helpful.

Scimi
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Snowflake
06-14-2012, 02:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by FreakOffALeash
I have had this exact same issue yesterday. Very painful and last for hours but I am ok now though. Are you sure it isnt just something you ate perhaps or muscle cramps? Muscle cramps or soreness is worst in the neck and stomach trust me.
and 6-8 WEEKS FOR AN ULTRASOUND! ARE YOU KIDDING WITH ME! I had to get an ultrasound on my testes and it took 4 days. Is the medical system that bad int he UK? Here I thought it sucked but now I feel better ;D . But I think someone is seriously messing with you ^o) . If you dont pressure these people you will be put on hold till the day you die. Medical offices are very lazy and I know it for a fact. My mother just changed offices a month ago because of this long time doctor we had and his staff DID nothing. She got a new office and was exammined in 2 days while they handles 6 cancer patients and 8 other people and this wasnt even a hospital! At the old office we waited for my ultrasounds and x ray results and took them 2 weeks then they "lost" it. But they received it in just 2 days! His staff would always be talking and making pranks and would curse patients out if they asked for something. These people did nothing and worked 2 doctors to death (in one case literally). If a medical staff is being lazy and showing you no respect you better raise hell and anything else below it. People dont respect you until you get on them about it. But if it is out of your hands then you cant do anything naturally and cant complain. I am one for peace and all but laziness, lying and lack of respect are things I cannot stand because it destroys people more then any disease on earth.
But no office is so busy that it takes 6-8 weeks!
NO OFFICE unless it is int he US army! So please check and make sure your not being pushed aside because I want you to be better!
Sorry for late reply. Glad to hear you're feeling better. My problem's been going on since last year. It's def. not muscle cramps. I've never been a big eater and have always eaten a little at a time but too often as what I ate never filled me up. And I was always hungry. Even worse when my son wasn't home I'd just eat crisps to replace meals :hiding: I am sure something in those flavourings/preservatives exaggerated the problem or even brought it on. Subhan Allah I've only myself to blame.

It doesn't matter how much you beg for faster appointments. You're just told there are people waiting to be seen before you. Fair enough. I wouldn't want anyone else to suffer just so's I can get treatment quicker than them. And anyway, as long as you have a good idea what the problem is you can find relief in alternative meds as well in ruqyah even if you don't know what the problem is. So al hamdulillah, Allah hasn't left me totally helpless : )



format_quote Originally Posted by لميس

Did someone assess you physically first? Most people with gallstones just live with them believe it or not, it is only under certain circumstances that they're removed, if they cause obstruction or are too symptomatic etc.
of course put the idea of pancreatits out your mind it is for starters retroperitoneal tearing pain and favors alcoholics although having gallstones can cause it too amongst other things.. Many people have gallstones and don't even know it.. Try to take alot of fluids for now..
if you do have a fever above 100 Fahrenheit accompanied with chills & rigors then just go to the emergency room, no sense waiting for a scan.
Yes sis. I was physically examined by a GP. At first she thought it might be a hernia, then she said she can't tell and will send me for an US. Silly me, so much was going on I missed the app. So I went again recently and she couldn't remember referring me at all. So she examined me again and this time she said she thinks it my gallbladder.

Jazaki Allah khayr for the reassurance. Pancreatitis just seems more difficult to treat than gallstones. So al hamdulillah it doesn't seem to be that :statisfie


format_quote Originally Posted by WRITER
UK medical system stinks!
It could be better but I can't complain sis. My cousin in Pakistan had suffered from a stomach complaint for four years and never told us for fear of burdening us with medical costs. One tablet there can cost thousands of rupees. So al hamdulillah looking at it that way, I just thank Allah we have the privileges we do.
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Snowflake
06-14-2012, 02:25 PM
Jazak Allah khayr bro Scimi. I found the same page yesterday and am in the process of devising a treatment with blackseed, remedies from Tibbun Nabwi, ruqyah and alternative meds. I want to log everything I do. It'll be a like my own case study insha Allah. :statisfie
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BadOlPuttyTat
06-14-2012, 04:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Snowflake
Sorry for late reply. Glad to hear you're feeling better. My problem's been going on since last year. It's def. not muscle cramps. I've never been a big eater and have always eaten a little at a time but too often as what I ate never filled me up. And I was always hungry. Even worse when my son wasn't home I'd just eat crisps to replace meals I am sure something in those flavourings/preservatives exaggerated the problem or even brought it on. Subhan Allah I've only myself to blame.
It doesn't matter how much you beg for faster appointments. You're just told there are people waiting to be seen before you. Fair enough. I wouldn't want anyone else to suffer just so's I can get treatment quicker than them. And anyway, as long as you have a good idea what the problem is you can find relief in alternative meds as well in ruqyah even if you don't know what the problem is. So al hamdulillah, Allah hasn't left me totally helpless : )
Ever considered stomach infections or stomach virus perhaps? Then again I had that also myself and it lasted for a week, all i could do was drink Dr Pepper soda. I hated that drink after i got better though ^o) .
But i doubt it is a stomach virus since you said this has been going on for so long. You ever considered Fibromyalgia? It is a common nerve/muscle issue that kinda fits what your saying a bit.
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Snowflake
06-14-2012, 06:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by FreakOffALeash

Ever considered stomach infections or stomach virus perhaps? Then again I had that also myself and it lasted for a week, all i could do was drink Dr Pepper soda. I hated that drink after i got better though ^o) .
But i doubt it is a stomach virus since you said this has been going on for so long. You ever considered Fibromyalgia? It is a common nerve/muscle issue that kinda fits what your saying a bit.
Yeah, it's gone on too long to be a virus/infection. I do have fibromyalgia. But the location of the pain and symptoms strongly indicate of gallbladder problems. It'll be ok insha Allah. No big deal : )
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جوري
06-14-2012, 06:38 PM
Sister I humbly suggest you refrain from diagnosing yourself or listening to the advise of insta net doctors. Also the stomach is a very acidic medium nothing lives there except H pylori if you were going to have a 'bacterial infection' secondly. You can't feel visceral pain as organs are not innervated in the way it is say in the skin so the symptoms wouldn't be as you describe. Can you feel your liver, pancreas or ovaries? of course not, you can have referred pain but not pain from the viscera itself. Try with prophetic medicine but as stated if you have fever above 100 Fahrenheit or your symptoms worsen then just visit the ER. Not everyone can play doctor. God knows even real doctors can't act as doctor when they should!
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BadOlPuttyTat
06-14-2012, 06:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Snowflake

Yeah, it's gone on too long to be a virus/infection. I do have fibromyalgia. But the location of the pain and symptoms strongly indicate of gallbladder problems. It'll be ok insha Allah. No big deal : )

You have fibromyalgia already? Um I just met a friend 2 weeks ago and his wife has the same condition and he said she described it s pain that she feels "deep inside".
I am not trying to put you down or anything but I have a strong feeling your issue is solved. This is like telling a doctor "my leg is in pain" and the doctor asks "have you done anything to your leg as of lately?" and you respond "I broke a few hours ago".
Fibromyalga is a very odd condition I may add and I have been reading on it for the last couple days ironically because of my online friend. So dont be surprised when you go to the doc and figure out it is just your current condition.
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Snowflake
06-14-2012, 07:40 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by لميس
Sister I humbly suggest you refrain from diagnosing yourself or listening to the advise of insta net doctors. Also the stomach is a very acidic medium nothing lives there except H pylori if you were going to have a 'bacterial infection' secondly. You can't feel visceral pain as organs are not innervated in the way it is say in the skin so the symptoms wouldn't be as you describe. Can you feel your liver, pancreas or ovaries? of course not, you can have referred pain but not pain from the viscera itself. Try with prophetic medicine but as stated if you have fever above 100 Fahrenheit or your symptoms worsen then just visit the ER. Not everyone can play doctor. God knows even real doctors can't act as doctor when they should!
:w:
format_quote Originally Posted by FreakOffALeash

masha Allah. Agreed sis.


You have fibromyalgia already? Um I just met a friend 2 weeks ago and his wife has the same condition and he said she described it s pain that she feels "deep inside".
I am not trying to put you down or anything but I have a strong feeling your issue is solved. This is like telling a doctor "my leg is in pain" and the doctor asks "have you done anything to your leg as of lately?" and you respond "I broke a few hours ago".
Fibromyalga is a very odd condition I may add and I have been reading on it for the last couple days ironically because of my online friend. So dont be surprised when you go to the doc and figure out it is just your current condition.
I doubt it's FM. There's too many symptoms related to disturbances in my digestive system. I eat child size portions or I suffer. If I stay hungry for too long I suffer. Defo not FM. Like sis Lamees said, it could be anything. So I'm just gonna wait for that referral to come through insha Allah.
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BadOlPuttyTat
06-14-2012, 09:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Snowflake



I doubt it's FM. There's too many symptoms related to disturbances in my digestive system. I eat child size portions or I suffer. If I stay hungry for too long I suffer. Defo not FM. Like sis Lamees said, it could be anything. So I'm just gonna wait for that referral to come through insha Allah.
Well all I can do is offer you peace and blessings and lots of support. May the comfort of 1,000 soft cuddly kittens make you sleep well tonight :statisfie .
If those docs are giving you the cold shoulder you better come tell me ya hear?! Those lazy old doctors better find out what is wrong with my sister Snowflake because I dont want her hurting ^o) .
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Snowflake
06-14-2012, 09:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by FreakOffALeash

Well all I can do is offer you peace and blessings and lots of support. May the comfort of 1,000 soft cuddly kittens make you sleep well tonight :statisfie .
If those docs are giving you the cold shoulder you better come tell me ya hear?! Those lazy old doctors better find out what is wrong with my sister Snowflake because I dont want her hurting ^o) .
Thank you, that's really kind of you. I'm cool with whatever happens. Allah doesn't do bad for us :statisfie
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dqsunday
06-14-2012, 11:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by FreakOffALeash
May the comfort of 1,000 soft cuddly kittens make you sleep well tonight
- awww this is a cute thing to say. I did have 9 cats comfort me in sleep once...so I can imagine what 1000 kittens would be like ;)

for the ultrasound appointment, get after them, ask to be called as soon as there's a cancellation. Sometimes you can get in earlier this way, Inshallah.
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BadOlPuttyTat
06-14-2012, 11:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by dqsunday
- awww this is a cute thing to say. I did have 9 cats comfort me in sleep once...so I can imagine what 1000 kittens would be like ;)
I am surprised your shocked by me saying that as I am sure I have said it before. I use that expression to show endearment but usually I say "may you find happiness from 1,000 fluffy kittens licking your feet". But a lot of people are grossed out by the tongue thing so I just leave it out :p . I don't own a cat but I liked them anyways as you can tell from my display image.

By the way do you have any catnip? :lol: if ya do that would be "purrrrrrrfect".
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Snowflake
06-15-2012, 10:35 AM
"may you find happiness from 1,000 fluffy kittens licking your feet"
lol sounds like torture :hiding:

Al hamdulillah the hospital just called to say they've booked me in for Mid July. That's still four weeks but better than waiting for eight! :statisfie
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StudentIII
06-15-2012, 10:56 PM
In the UK if you go to the ER do you have to pay the bill yourself or part of it?

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned, but if it is gallstones then stay away from fatty food. Ingesting fat is a stimulus for the gallbladder to contract and release bile. If there is a stone in the gallbladder and it gets lodged along the way it causes the gallbladder and the ducts to expand, which gives you the feeling of pain. If the stone gets stuck further along the duct it could lead to pancreatitis. Symptoms usually resolve once the stone has passed or is no longer obstructing the ducts.

If the stone isn't permanently impacted, but you're still having symptoms it really is your choice if you want to have the gallbladder removed. If you do decide to want it removed then go to the ER during a particularly prolonged attack and get it over with. Sounds like waiting X amount of weeks for an US and then another X amount of weeks for possible surgery is rather unnecessary.

Of course it could be something completely different.
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cOsMiCiNtUiTiOn
06-15-2012, 11:42 PM
Asalaam Aleikum,

Sounds like you would benefit from a good detox if you have many digestive issues. First things to come to mind is a clogged up liver(which causes a number of illnesses as this is the filter of the human body) and gall bladder issues. Along with black seed, you should be cleaning out that liver and getting rid of fatty grime lingering around (that's what it actually is lol gross I know). If the pain is in the upper abdominal area, it could very well be gallstones. You can actually remove those yourself. I was havingr egular pains like that myself, and any kind of emotional disturbance or too much food, too little food...and at some point all food :hmm: caused a great deal of pain, sometimes I couldn't even talk because it knocked the wind out of me.

If it's upper middle abdominal pain (it wont be exactly on the organ, I think sis bluebell was talking about this. It will be in a general area but internal pain is different from external. ) Then it more than likely iss gallbladder issues.



If its your pancreas, it will be more towards your back and lower.



I don't really like doctors, hospitals or anything like that so, I went natural, which is my suggestion to you, since you are stuck waiting anyway. I cut off all greasy and processed food of any kind, upped my water, did a two week treatment of Black Seed Oil and after that I started detoxing with a Raw Apple Cider Vinegar http://prophetic-medicine.blogspot.c...-its-uses.html (be sure to dilute it... ehum or u can get in trouble :phew ) and raw honey tonic. My skin has cleared up and every ache and pain is gone pretty much, Alhamdullilah :D I wish I had done all of this sooner. We have to remember that we are what we eat, whatever u put into your body is going to affect you, so first step is to cut off anything that triggers the problem or makes it worse. Spices, Grease, Process foods out. Thats step 1.

Hope you get to feeling better Ukhti!

- cOsMiC
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Snowflake
06-16-2012, 06:03 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by StudentIII
In the UK if you go to the ER do you have to pay the bill yourself or part of it?

Surprised it hasn't been mentioned, but if it is gallstones then stay away from fatty food. Ingesting fat is a stimulus for the gallbladder to contract and release bile. If there is a stone in the gallbladder and it gets lodged along the way it causes the gallbladder and the ducts to expand, which gives you the feeling of pain. If the stone gets stuck further along the duct it could lead to pancreatitis. Symptoms usually resolve once the stone has passed or is no longer obstructing the ducts.

If the stone isn't permanently impacted, but you're still having symptoms it really is your choice if you want to have the gallbladder removed. If you do decide to want it removed then go to the ER during a particularly prolonged attack and get it over with. Sounds like waiting X amount of weeks for an US and then another X amount of weeks for possible surgery is rather unnecessary.

Of course it could be something completely different.

All medical treatment including emergency (ER) is paid for by the tax payer. However, more and more services are being withdrawn from the NHS (national health service) and there's plans to privatise the NHS with only a few urgent services remaining free.

Jazak Allah khayr for the info. The pain in the upper right quadrant isn't as bad and comes and goes. What is worse and doesn't go is the pressure in the centre of the upper abdomen. Even drinking water, eating cereals makes it worse. Strangely coffee helps! I may have more than one problem going on here and will only know after the scans next month insha Allah.
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Snowflake
06-16-2012, 06:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by cOsMiCiNtUiTiOn
Asalaam Aleikum,

Sounds like you would benefit from a good detox if you have many digestive issues. First things to come to mind is a clogged up liver(which causes a number of illnesses as this is the filter of the human body) and gall bladder issues. Along with black seed, you should be cleaning out that liver and getting rid of fatty grime lingering around (that's what it actually is lol gross I know). If the pain is in the upper abdominal area, it could very well be gallstones. You can actually remove those yourself. I was havingr egular pains like that myself, and any kind of emotional disturbance or too much food, too little food...and at some point all food :hmm: caused a great deal of pain, sometimes I couldn't even talk because it knocked the wind out of me.

If it's upper middle abdominal pain (it wont be exactly on the organ, I think sis bluebell was talking about this. It will be in a general area but internal pain is different from external. ) Then it more than likely iss gallbladder issues.



If its your pancreas, it will be more towards your back and lower.



I don't really like doctors, hospitals or anything like that so, I went natural, which is my suggestion to you, since you are stuck waiting anyway. I cut off all greasy and processed food of any kind, upped my water, did a two week treatment of Black Seed Oil and after that I started detoxing with a Raw Apple Cider Vinegar http://prophetic-medicine.blogspot.c...-its-uses.html (be sure to dilute it... ehum or u can get in trouble :phew ) and raw honey tonic. My skin has cleared up and every ache and pain is gone pretty much, Alhamdullilah :D I wish I had done all of this sooner. We have to remember that we are what we eat, whatever u put into your body is going to affect you, so first step is to cut off anything that triggers the problem or makes it worse. Spices, Grease, Process foods out. Thats step 1.

Hope you get to feeling better Ukhti!

- cOsMiC
Wa alaykum assalam wa rahmatullahi wb,

Aw thanks sis. Al hamdulillah you got your health back :statisfie

I'm a sucker for alternative remedies. I just wish to wait for the scans before I launch into a specially devised health regime for ALL my ailments. (There's more lol :embarrass). I'm currently taking a few remedies to make the situation bearable. I cannot stress enough the wonders of chewing mint and parsley leaves in bringing me relief during attacks. Oh and the added bonus of ever lasting fresh breath is priceless. I actually woke up with my breath smelling minty and parsleyish :D I do use apple cider vinegar on the occasions I get acid indigestion. I'll also try it the way you described insha Allah. Jazaki Allah khayr for all the tips :)



Mint (nana)--The most subtle and refined of pot herbs, mint is heating and drying. Mint strengthens the stomach, cures hiccups, and encourages sexual activity. Placed in milk, mint will prevent it from turning to cheese.

Parsley (karafs)-A Hadith states that eating parsley just before sleep will cause one to awaken with sweet breath.... < TRIED & TESTED!

(Medicine of the Prophet)

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