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nutty
01-16-2013, 01:54 PM
Assalamun alaikum

i am not sure if this is in the right section..
If u are flying a dead body out of uk into bangladesh...can u pray the janaza pray in uk the day before...and fly the body out the nxt day..cos thats when u can get a direct flight.??

jazakAllaah
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Muslim Woman
01-16-2013, 04:25 PM
:wa:


Now a days , more than one Janaza is offered - one in abroad and another in homecountry before burial.

Better if u talk to ur local Imam / Mufti .
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Insaanah
01-16-2013, 06:57 PM
:sl: sister

A body should be buried as soon as possible after death, and burial shouldn't be delayed unnecessarily, such as by transporting the body from one country to another. The sunnah is to be buried where you die, so if there is a Muslim graveyard in the country the person dies in, or graveyards with a Muslim section, (as there are in the UK) then the person should be buried there.

We must also point out that the Sunnah is to bury the deceased where he died, except in cases of necessity. So if there is a Muslim graveyard in the place where a person dies, he should be buried there. And Allaah knows best.
With regards to the funeral prayer, don't know if this helps at all:

A muslim from our jamaah recently died and his family shipped the body back to pakistan, his janaza was prayed here in new york and again in pakistan. My question is which is the proper janaza.
Jazakalla Khairan.


Praise be to Allaah.

It is correct to offer the Janaazah prayer for the deceased more than once. Both prayers are valid and it is hoped that the prayers will be an intercession for the deceased. Ibn Qudaamah said: “If a person catches up with the janaazah (funeral) but did not offer the prayer, he can still pray (Salaat al-Janaazah) for the deceased. This was done by ‘Ali and Anas, may Allaah be pleased with them, and by Sulaymaan ibn Rabee’ah, Abu Hamzah and Mu’ammar ibn Sameer. The prayer may be offered at the graveside, and it may be repeated before the burial either in congregation or individually. This was stated by Ahmad, who said: “There is nothing wrong with that. It was done by a number of the Companions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).” (al-Mughni, 2/512)

In a hadeeth, Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) reached a new grave, and they formed a row behind him, and he recited Takbeer (said “Allaahu akbar”) four times.” (Agreed upon. Al-Bukhaari, 1319, Muslim, 1586).

Al-Sheeraazi said: “If someone comes who has not yet offered the (funeral) prayer for him, he should do so.” (al-Muhadhdhab , 1/134).

Both the prayers are valid, because the prayer for the deceased may be offered more than once for a valid reason. Some of the scholars mentioned that it is permissible for a person who missed the funeral prayer to offer the prayer over him in his grave, up to a period of one month following his death. So those who offered the prayer for him in Pakistan did so because they had not prayed for him before that.

We must also point out that the Sunnah is to bury the deceased where he died, except in cases of necessity. So if there is a Muslim graveyard in the place where a person dies, he should be buried there. And Allaah knows best.
http://islamqa.info/en/ref/4419/funeral
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Muslim Woman
01-17-2013, 04:07 AM
:sl:

just saw an aritcle online.


Many people transport the body of deceased relatives abroad for burial. The bodies are legally required to go through a process called Embalming. The following is information regradng the process. It is hoped that the information will insha Allah prevent people from practicing on this tradition of overseas burial.

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Embalming
Embalming is a process to preserve bodies from the time of death until they can be buried or cremated.
Embalming is required when a body is taken out of the country.
A certificate is usually provided by the embalmer.

The Embalming Process
  • The body is placed on stainless steel or porcelain table, then washed with a germicide-insecticide-olfactant. The insides of the nose and mouth are swabbed with the solution.
  • Rigor mortis (stiffness) is relieved by massage. (Rarely but sometimes, tendons and muscles are cut in order to place the body in a more natural pose if limbs are distorted by disease, e.g., arthritis.)
  • Facial features are set by putting cotton in the nose, eye caps below the eyelids, a mouth former in the mouth (cotton or gauze in the throat to absorb purging fluids). The mouth is then tied shut with wire or sutures.
  • Arterial embalming is begun by injecting embalming fluid into an artery while the blood is drained from a nearby vein or from the heart. The two gallons or so needed is usually a mixture of formaldehyde or other chemical and water. In the case of certain cancers, some diabetic conditions, or because of the drugs used prior to death (where body deterioration has already begun), a stronger or "waterless" solution is likely to be used for better body preservation.
Chemicals are also injected by syringe into other areas of the body.
  • The second part of the embalming process is called cavity embalming. A trocar — a long, pointed, metal tube attached to a suction hose — is inserted close to the navel. The embalmer uses it to puncture the stomach, bladder, large intestines, and lungs. Gas and fluids are withdrawn before "cavity fluid" (a stronger mix of formaldehyde) is injected into the torso.
  • The anus and vagina may be packed with cotton or gauze to prevent seepage if necessary. (A close-fitting plastic garment may also be used.)
  • Incisions and holes made in the body are sewn closed or filled with trocar "buttons." The body is washed again and dried.
The body is shrouded and placed in the casket.


Chemicals Used
  • Typical embalming fluid contains a mixture of formaldehyde, methanol, ethanol, and other solvents. The formaldehyde content generally ranges from 5 to 35 percent and the ethanol content may range from 9 to 56 percent.
  • Ethanol, also known as ethyl alcohol, drinking alcohol or grain alcohol, is a flammable, colorless, slightly toxicchemical compound, and is best known as the alcohol found in alcoholic beverages.
  • An alcoholic beverage is a drink containing ethan


Q/A from Darul 'uloom Deoband:

Assalamualaikum
Q1-When someone passes away, is it permissible to transfer the body from one country to another like Ameer Jamaat Hazratjee Maulana Yusuf R.A his body was transfered from Pakistan to India?
Q2-Was any Sahabah's body transfered from one place to another?
Q3-A person passes away in a country where he has no relatives,if the country where his relatives live is close then is it permissible to transfer the body to that country?

Answer: 7862
Nov 22,2008

(Fatwa: 1611/1528=D/1429)

قال في البزازية نقل الميت من بلد الى بلد قبل الدفن لا يكره وبعده يحرم، قال السرخسي وقبله يكره أيضا الا قدر ميل او ميلين (شامى 305:5 و 663:1)
It means that transferring the death body from one place to another is makrooh (undesirable) though some Islamic jurists permit it but the preferred ruling is that it is undesirable, so one should avoid it if there is no severe need.
(2) Hadhrat Abdur Rahman (رضي الله عنه) was not buried where he passed away but he was taken to another place and buried there, but Hadhrat Aesha (رضي الله عنها) did object to it. Once in a journey, when she passed by his grave, she said: Had I power I would have not allowed you to be buried here, rather you should have been buried in the place where you breathed the last.
(3) It is allowable to take it to one or two miles, but it is makrooh tahrimi (undesirable to an extent of haram) to take it from one country to another:
يندب دفنه في جهة موته اي في مقابر أهل المكان الذي مات فيه أو قتل (شامي 1:602)
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband
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nutty
01-17-2013, 11:04 AM
Asslamun alaikum

O My this procedure sounds awful....it was the wish of the deceased and relative are trying to fulfil..I just hope the deceased isnt in so much pain as the soul can feel the pain when the body is being prepared....:-(
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