Why Jesus was named The God's Word and A Spirit From God?

I would like a short answer, not a site or book to read, the accepted explanation in the muslim interpretation of this fact. It can' t be that explanation I read in a site that Jesus was named this way because He did not have a father and God only said "Be" so he came into being in the same manner Adam did because Adam and nobody is named this way in Quran. Even Mohamed is only a "servant of God"

this is exactly the problem: in quran only Jesus is named this way.Why?

I also recall posting this for you before hopefully you might try reading it this time around:

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [h=3]by Ahmad Deedat[/h] The word CHRIST is derived from the Hebrew word Messiah, Arabic-Masih. Root word m-a-s-a-h-a, meaning to rub, to massage, to anoint. Priests and kings were anointed when being consecrated to their offices. But in its translated, Grecian form "CHRIST", it seems unique:befitting Jesus only. The Christian has a knack of transmuting baser metals into shining gold. What he is wont to do is to translate names into his own language like "cephas" to Peter, "messiah" to Christ. How does he do that? Very easily MESSIAH in Hebrew means anointed. The Greek word for anointed is "christos". Just lop off the 'os' from christos and you are left with christ. Now change the little 'c' to a capital 'C', and "hey, presto!" he has created a unique (?) name! Christos means ANOINTED, and anointed means APPOINTED in its religious connotation. Jesus (pbuh) was appointed (anointed) at his baptism by John the Baptist, as God's Messenger.Every Prophet of God is so anointed or appointed. The Holy Bible is replete with the "anointed" ones. In the original Hebrew - made a "messiah". Let us keep to the English translation - "anointed." Not only were prophets and priests and kings anointed (christos-ed), but borns, and cherubs and lamp-posts also.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] I am the God of Beth-el, where you ANOINTED a pillar..... ​ [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Genesis 31:13[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] If the priest that is ANOINTED do sin.... ​ [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Leviticus 4:3[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] And Moses....ANOINTED the tabernacle and all things that was therein... ​ [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Leviticus 8:10[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] ...THE LORD SHALL....EXALT THE HORN OF HIS ANOINTED ​ [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]1 Samuel 2:10[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Thus saith the Lord to his ANOINTED to Cyrus.... ​ [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Isaiah 45:1[/FONT]​

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] Thou art the ANOINTED cherub.... ​ [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Helvetica]Ezekiel 28:14[/FONT]​

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There are a hundred more such references in the Holy Bible. Everytime you come across the word ANOINTED in your English Bible, you can take it that that word would be christos in the Greek translations, and if you take the same liberty with the word that the Christians have done, you will have - Christ Cherub, Christ Cyrus, Christ Priest and Christ Pillar, etc.
[h=3]SOME TITLES EXCLUSIVE[/h] Although, every prophet of God is an ANOINTED one of God - a Messiah, the title "Masih" or "Messiah" or its translation "CHRIST" is exclusively reserved for Jesus, the son of Mary, in both Islam and in Christianity. This is not unusual in religion. There are certain other honorific title which may be applied to more than one prophet, yet being made exclusive to one by usage: like "Rasul-lullah", meaning Messenger of God, which title is applied to both Moses (19:51) and Jesus (61:6) in the Holy Quran. Yet "Rasul-lullah" has become synonymous only with the Prophet of Islam among Muslims.
Every prophet is indeed a FRIEND OF GOD, but its Arabic equivalent "Kha- lil-lullah" is exclusively associated with Father Abraham. This does not mean that the others are not God's friends. "Kalimul-lah" (One who spoke with God) is never used for anyone other than Moses, yet we believe that God spoke with all His Messengers, including Jesus and Muhummed (May the Peace and Blessings of God be upon all His servants). Associating certain titles with certain personages only, does not make them exclusive or unique in any way. We honour all in varying terms.
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i asked you why Jesus is so special in quran, and you answer me saying that the word christ doesn't mean necessary something that special in the bible.

ccc said:

I would like a short answer, not a site or book to read, the accepted explanation in the muslim interpretation of this fact. It can' t be that explanation I read in a site that Jesus was named this way because He did not have a father and God only said "Be" so he came into being in the same manner Adam did because Adam and nobody is named this way in Quran. Even Mohamed is only a "servant of God"

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pardon my ignorance, but what verses of the Qur'an are you referring to?

It can' t be that explanation I read in a site that Jesus was named this way because He did not have a father and God only said "Be" so he came into being in the same manner Adam did because Adam and nobody is named this way in Quran. Even Mohamed is only a "servant of God"

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What does that even mean? Who else had to be identified that way? Was anyone at the time worshiping Adam? Wasn't Jesus also identified as a servant of God in Qur'an 19:30?

All right, then, let’s just go ahead for the sake of argument and assume that the Koranic terminology is synonymous with logos (“The Word”) and pneuma (“the Spirit”). That’s obviously what you’re driving at. According to the Christian website greekbible.com logos can mean “a word, uttered by a living voice, embodies a conception or idea”. It can also mean “the sayings of God”. (Interestingly it can also mean “account, i.e. reckoning, score”.) Pneuma can mean a lot of things too. Among them are:

* the rational spirit, the power by which the human being feels, thinks, decides
* the soul
* a spirit, i.e. a simple essence, devoid of all or at least all grosser matter, and possessed of the power of knowing, desiring, deciding, and acting
* a life giving spirit

ccc said:

I would like a short answer, not a site or book to read, the accepted explanation in the muslim interpretation of this fact. It can' t be that explanation I read in a site that Jesus was named this way because He did not have a father and God only said "Be" so he came into being in the same manner Adam did because Adam and nobody is named this way in Quran. Even Mohamed is only a "servant of God"

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So to clarify, you asked why Jesus (as) and Adam (as) are considered to be the only two people who are said to have had the Spirit of God breathed into them. And you are wondering why is it that Jesus (as) has such a special status as to being called the Word of God and the Spirit of God. Correct?

To answer your question, consider that the Arabic for Word is "Kalimat" and Spirit is "Ruh". I won't write in Arabic letters because I don't know if you know how to read Arabic or not. My guess is that you read verse 4:171 in the Qur'an and you were wondering why this was said at all about him and no one else. The short answer is that he is not the only one to whom this kind of reference was given. I have seen translations say one thing and another in their English meaning, but when I read the Arabic, even by not knowing that much of it, I find that the term "Ruhun minhu" (Spirit from Him) is used elsewhere in the Qur'an as well.

This term is used in verse 58:22:

58:22 Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.

Furthermore, that website you read on this issue about, which said that only Jesus (as) and Adam (as) are mentioned to have had a Spirit breathed into them by Allah from Himself in special mention is incorrect. In fact, Hazrat Bibi Maryam (ra) also had a special mention of this in the Qur'an as well:

21:91 And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples.

It doesn't say specifically "Ruhun minhu" here as well, but the meaning is all the same here. The point of this verse is to demonstrate to you that that website you went to was not accurate. If what you claim it said is true.

Another point to note is that after all of this it becomes clear that the Spirit which Allah gave from Himself does not form a part of His Divine Self, but it is only a gift of Allah to those whom He sees worthy of attaining this gift. The proof of this is that the term "minhu" (from Him) is used in this sense elsewhere in the Qur'an:

45:13 And He has subjected to you, as from Him, all that is in the heavens and on earth: Behold, in that are Signs indeed for those who reflect.

The Qur'an uses these expressions of "Kalimat" (Word) and "Ruh" (Spirit) because there were ugly charges made against him by the Jews against him and his mother. Thus, you can appreciate that the Holy Qur'an has cleared both Jesus (as) and Mary (ra) of these charges. Allah Himself said that their status was high and was not as the Jews said they were. This is a very high stance they have with Allah and it is a great mercy from Him. It also shows how much they were both insulted. Imagine how much the hearts of those Christians who heard this from such a huge group of Jews felt, especially the ones who were the target of this, Jesus (as) and his pure and noble mother, Mary (ra).

Furthermore, the mention of Jesus (as) being the "Word" of Allah, "Kalimat", is an interesting notion in the Qur'an. If I am correct, Christians (meaning you as well) generally believe that Jesus (as) is the Word of God personified. He is considered above all of the other Prophets, because none of them shared in this status (according to them) and thus he is superior and completely distinguishable from them. There is pride in his being this special "Word" of God because he shared in it eternally and was then human. Again, correct me if I am wrong. I am trying to paint the picture here of how highly Christians praise Jesus (as) with regard to this.

That being said, the Holy Qur'an has shattered this picture for the Christians. Allah has said in the Holy Qur'an:

18:109 Say: "If the ocean were ink (wherewith to write out) the words of my Lord, sooner would the ocean be exhausted than would the words of my Lord, even if we added another ocean like it, for its aid."

This verse is speaking about the "Kalimat" of Allah. Allah has an inexhaustible reserve of His Kalimat (Words) which nothing can satisfy.

This fact is further corroborated by the Holy Qur'an when it explains that Jesus (as) was only a humble Messenger of Allah and a human being like any other, despite his very high status with Allah in terms of his spiritual rank and closeness with Him:

43:59 He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favour to him, and We made him an example to the Children of Israel.

And in fact he, as well as the Holy Prophet (saw), were no more than servants of Allah:

19:30 He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;

And now to finally quote verse 4:171, we find that it says all of these things as well. Knowing what you know after all of this, you can read it and appreciate it in a different manner:

4:171 O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.

Thus, Jesus (as) was only a Messenger, and only His Word, and a Spirit, which was gifted from Allah to him. He was not part of a Trinity of Godhood, instead, he was what Allah said he is in this Ayat. His being a Word of Allah and a Spirit from Him does not mean he was specially above any of the other Prophets of Allah by being gifted divinity. Rather, he was like all of the rest of the Messengers of Allah. They had Allah's Words bestowed upon them, and they had been vested with the Spirit of Allah as well. "Ruh" itself has many different meanings, such as inspiration, revelation, mercy, soul or spirit, and breath which pervades the whole body after the exit of which man dies, angel, Qur'an, joy and happiness. So "Ruh" applies to many things and many people, and this would include all of the Prophets of Allah as well since they shared in the revelations as well.

Peace be upon those who seek the truth.

"Thus, Jesus (as) was only a Messenger, and only His Word, and a Spirit, which was gifted from Allah to him."
Wow, so you can take a part from god and put it in a creature. You can take God's Word from Him

ccc said:

Wow, so you can take a part from god and put it in a creature. You can take God's Word from Him

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Let me break this to you gently. We're all the word of God, and we're all breathed into from his spirit:

[FONT=Verdana,arial]As-Sajdah (The Prostration)[32:9] [RECITE]

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Thumma sawwahu wanafakha feehi min roohihi wajaAAala lakumu alssamAAa waalabsara waalafidata qaleelan ma tashkuroona​

32:9 But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something of His spirit. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give!
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you were already informed that the similitude of Jesus is that of Adam.. except Adam had neither father or mother.. if we're to worship a man shouldn't he be the ultimate in miraculous?

how strange is your creed and nonsensical!

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Your response proves that you have completely ignored everything we've said, ccc. If you had not read any of the posts above it then it would have been no different than if you had. At this point you're just choosing not to get it.

Was God, at any time, dumb, deaf, or empty from any word or spirit?

first, it is a bigger miracle that in the created world somebody is borne contrary to the laws of the created world than the fact that the world was created, because in this God shows his power more. We all know that he can create, but the great miracle is that without destroying the world he can give to us more than only the world and its laws, he can give us the fulfillment of the words, he can give himself to the world, this is more than just creating.
secondly, my question is clear, so answer as i answered: Was God, at any time, dumb, deaf, or empty from any word or spirit?

you judge the miracle of adam's creation after the laws of the world, but the miracle is also something that contradicts the laws of the world, and creation does not contradict anythying from the world as long as did not exist any world before, but the great miracle is the one which has the power to both respect and contradict the created world, exactly because this is indeed more than we can expect. miracle is both positive and negative, because it can not be in itself contradiction, because it would loose it's value. The miracle' s value is given by the level in which he shows the divinity, and the essence of miracle is to show to us god's power. To recreate the world is more than create the world, because it shows more the power of God over the creation at a level that is not limited at man's expectations. God showed that his power has not limits, and His infinity is not limited to what we can think about it
By the way, you did not answer my question

I want to repeat that i am not interested in arguments like"in quran it is said that Jesus is too a servant of God" In Christianity he is a servant too". I do not think that mohamed in quran gives me the proof that Jesus is God, i know his intention of showing that he is not more than a human or a prophet. But i ask why even Mohamed gives him this name of God's Word only to him. I must tell you that i do not find any kind of prove that Mohamed was more than a man that did not understand Christianity and he, because was unable to receive its essence, made fairy tales which tried to explain the facts how he was able to understand. He did not even knew the bible good. That is why i ask simple "Was God, at any time, dumb, deaf, or empty from any word or spirit?" because i think that mohamed did not understand the meaning of the words he was using and he only used them like people do when they use a name without its meaning. The answer to this question shows that it is self contradiction in the muslim explanation and that mohamed did not know what he was talking about.

ccc said:

"Thus, Jesus (as) was only a Messenger, and only His Word, and a Spirit, which was gifted from Allah to him."
Wow, so you can take a part from god and put it in a creature. You can take God's Word from Him

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can you please provide Surah and ayah number please. i am skeptical of your translation

ccc said:

Was God, at any time, dumb, deaf, or empty from any word or spirit?

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if you are referring to The One True God, Allah Subhanna wa Ta'aala. the Raab of creation, well of course not. don't be silly.

HOWEVER, if you are referring to what you, as a "Christian" call god, well then why not? ---

so why do you ask us silly questions, when it is you that has some rather peculiar notions of God?

strange lad, indeed...

peace