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glo
04-02-2013, 07:40 PM
We have to approach the Qur'an with a view to understanding it as our Creator intended.
Can you explain how to go about this?
Especially with verses, which may be open to different interpretations?

Who decides which interpretation is the correct one?
And how do you decide which scholar to follow?

(I am talking in general terms here, not about any specific verses)
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Ahmad H
04-03-2013, 04:24 AM
There are certain criterion to be able to to commentary on the Qur'an:
#1 The Qur'an is the best commentary on itself. It is a testimony for itself. It is a tightly well-knit Book from Allah in which everything explains itself and it does not depend on any external sources.
#2 The Holy Prophet (saw) is the next best source for guidance on the meanings of the Holy Qur'an. He was the one who best understood the Holy Qur'an, and after him no one else will understand it better than him. Any interpretation given by him is considered valid and is accepted without hesitation or second thoughts.
#3 The interpretation given by the Companions (ra) of the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw). These were the ones who inherited and practiced the teachings of the Holy Qur'an directly from the Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw).
#4 The one who has great purity has an affinity with the Holy Qur'an, and so they can see the true interpretation with the light of their heart since Allah would have made it clear for them. However, if they are not pure they will make their own dubious interpretations and this is wrong because the Holy Prophet (saw) said that any opinion on the Qur'an is wrong, even though one thinks they have done well.
#5 The Arabic lexicon. They are not necessary, but they help with unlocking some of the deep hidden mysteries behind some of the words of the Holy Qur'an.


As for which scholars one chooses. That I leave for someone else to decide on. i personally choose the accepted Mujaddideen (reformers) of Islam who came to renew the religion during time. I think there are disagreements here and there about who was legitimately a reformer during their respective times but by and large there are certain scholars who are well-known for their Tafsirs.

The Tabi'in are the foremost. No one can deny them. Especially Mujahid, Ibn 'Abbas, At-Tabari, Az-Zamakhshari, Ar-Razi, Al-Qurtubi, Al-Baydawi, etc. These are just some of them. Their tafsirs are not available in English. One Tafsir which is widely available on the internet without fail and well-recognized is Ibn Kathir's Tafsir. There is also Al-Jalalayn's Tafsir, and a version of Ibn 'Abbas's tafsir. There is Asbab An-Nuzul by Al-Wahidi and there is Tafsir Al-Tustari. These last four Tafsirs (commentaries) are available at www.altafsir.com. You can look up verses individually.

But Allah knows best what the interpretation is of the verses of the Holy Qur'an. I gave you the criterion by which one can do a commentary on the Qur'an. But you have to have mastered Arabic. You absolutely CANNOT do Tafsir (commentary) on the Qur'an without knowledge of Arabic. This is very important.
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glo
04-04-2013, 06:46 AM
Thank you for your reply, Ahmad.

format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmad H
The Qur'an is the best commentary on itself. It is a testimony for itself. It is a tightly well-knit Book from Allah in which everything explains itself and it does not depend on any external sources.
Is it really as simple as that?
I hear Muslims talking about Qu'ranic verses which are literal and others which are metaphorical. Some pertained to Muhammad's followers at certain times in history (for example when they were in Medina or Mekkah) and others are valid for all Muslims during all ages.

That doesn't sound to me like just anybody can pick up the Qu'ran, read it and immediately know how to understand it ...

Which takes me back to the question how to make sure that one follows the right interpretation, the right teaching, the right scholar etc.
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Tyrion
04-04-2013, 07:58 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Is it really as simple as that?
In a lot of ways, it's not nearly as simple as most Muslims would like others to believe, but it can be in other ways. It's pretty clear when it comes to the most important stuff, and it gets its essential message across well, I think. Anyone can pick it up and get the basics of the faith, know the general ideas behind salvation, and basically learn how to be a Muslim just by reading the Quran. This should be enough for most people, along with the well known traditions and rituals we have through other sources. But when you get into details, rulings, history, the literal and the metaphorical, etc..., then things can become unclear, and a lot of people tend to obsess over the details.

I feel like a lot of Muslims rely only on scholars and classical exegesis (which can sometimes lead to a rigidity I'm not too fond of), while others choose to interpret based on the times and their own understanding. This is all made even more difficult due to the fact that the Quran is in classical Arabic, and a lot of it can be vague. (Though I personally think that this vagueness is intentional, since it would give it a lot of room to be interpreted through the ages, by different cultures and people, and to stay relevant, but I know a lot of people would favor a far more strict and literal translation.)

I think a lot of people also run into issues when you bring Hadith into the picture, which can sometimes seem like they approach issues differently than the Quran on certain topics, or complicate things due to the sheer number of sayings and interpretations of those saying. This gives more reason for some to rely heavily on the opinions of others, but then it also makes it that much more difficult for the layman since the hadith literature is so vast and not easily accessible, and the authenticity isn't on the same level as the Quran. This difficulty can also lead to a kind of absolute dependence on a religious authority, which can sometimes become dangerous. But you can see why some people feel the need to go there.

So yeah, I think you're right. This stuff isn't easy. :p: At least, not nearly as easy as a lot of Muslims try to make it seem.


format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Who decides which interpretation is the correct one?
And how do you decide which scholar to follow?
People have different criteria for deciding who to follow, so I can only speak for myself. If I come across a certain opinion, I tend to go through the reasoning behind it, and then make a final decision based on my understanding. I tend to dislike the type of blind following that can come from just taking opinions without thinking about them. Still, I admit my stance might not be the majority view here.
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Muslim Woman
04-04-2013, 08:04 AM
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most Qurance verses are very clear , specially the verses related to salvation . So , one does not need to follow any specific scholar to understand the verses on oneness of God Almighty , His power over everything , how to avoid eternal fire , how to enter to paradise etc.


So for salvation , if one reads Quran with good intention , In'sha Allah s/he will understand Quran and will be guided.

And God Almighty Knows Best.
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Amat Allah
04-04-2013, 08:13 AM
I wish this can answer some of your Qs sweet sister, May Allah help you to understand Ameeeen

Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

There is no difference of opinion among the scholars with regard to the interpretation of the entire Qur'aan. Rather they differed concerning the interpretation of some of its verses. There is no doubt that with regard to most of the verses, there is no difference of opinion as to their interpretation. Rather the commentators, both early and later, and scholars are agreed on its interpretation. This is something that is clear to everyone who reads the Qur'aan and books of commentary. The majority of Muslims still read the Qur'aan and listen to its verses, and most of them have no problem understanding most of it; rather they know what it means and this is sufficient to be guided by the Qur'aan.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

With regard to the saheeh reports which say that they differed concerning it and held conflicting views, these are very few compared to the verses concerning which they did not differ. End quote.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 5/162

Secondly:

Most of the differences that did occur came after the best (earliest) centuries. As for the Sahaabah and Taabi’een, the differences among them concerning the interpretation of the Qur'aan were very few.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

Hence the disagreements among the Sahaabah concerning the interpretation of the Qur'aan were very few. Even though there were more disagreements among the Taabi’een than among the Sahaabah, they are still few in comparison to what came after them. The more virtuous the era, the more consensus, harmony, knowledge and clarity about the Qur’aan there was. End quote.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 13/332.

Thirdly:

As for the few verses concerning the interpretation of which there was a difference of opinion (among the Salaf), they may be divided into several categories:

(i) Those concerning which the difference has to do with variations of meanings, not conflicting opinions. So these are differences in wording, which do not affect anything and a difference in wording is not really a difference in fact, because if there is a difference the two opinions should contradict one another, and that is not the case in this category of differences.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy upon him) said, commenting on differences in varieties of meaning:

That is of two types:

The first type is where each of the commentators expressed what the words mean in wording different from that of his companions, which indicates that what is meant is a different shade of meaning, not a different meaning altogether, as they are referring to the same thing. This is like referring to a sayf (sword) as saarim or muhannad (other Arabic words for sword). The same is true of the beautiful names of Allah, the names of His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and the names of the Qur'aan. The names of Allah all refer to the same One, and each of His names refer to the same Essence and the attribute reflected in the name. The same may be said of the names of the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), such as Muhammad, Ahmad, al-Maahi (the Eraser, by means of whom Allaah erases (yamhu) kufr), al-Haashir (the Gatherer, at whose feet the people will gather), and al-‘Aaqib (the successor, i.e., the one who succeeds the other Prophets in bringing about good, or the Last Prophet); and of the names of the Qur'aan, such as the Qur’aan, al-Furqaan (the Criterion), al-Huda wa’l-Shifa (guidance and healing), al-Bayaan (clarity), al-Kitaab (Book) and so on.

Once this is established, one of the early generation sometimes referred to a thing with a word or phrase that referred to one of its attributes, and another would refer to it by a different word or phrase that reflected another of its attributes, like one who says: Ahmad [i.e., the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him)] is al-Haashir, al-Maahi, al-‘Aaqib; and al-Quddoos (the Most Holy) is al-Ghafoor (The Oft Forgiving), al-Raheem (the Most Merciful). In other words, what is referred to is one and the same, but the attributes are not the same. It is known that this is not a contradiction as some people think.

Another example of that is their interpretation of the phrase al-siraat al-mustaqeem (the straight path).

Some of them said that it means the Qur'aan, i.e., following it.

Some of them said that it means Islam.

These two opinions are in harmony, because the religion of Islam is following the Qur'aan, but each one highlights a different shade of meaning that is not reflected in the other.

The word siraat (path) may also indicate another meaning, as reflected in the view of those who say that it is al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah (i.e., adhering to the Sunnah and the main body of the Muslims); and those who say that it is obedience to Allah and His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), and other examples, all of which indicate the same thing, but each looks at it from a different angle.

The second type is where the Qur'aan uses a general word and each commentator mentions some specific type by way of example, in order to explain to the listeners the general meaning.

That is like when a non-Arab asks what is meant by the word khubz (bread), and someone shows him a loaf of bread (ragheef) and says, “This”, although the word does not refer to this specific type or this particular loaf.

Another example is what is narrated concerning the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Then We gave the Book (the Qur’aan) as inheritance to such of Our slaves whom We chose (the followers of Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم). Then of them are some who wrong their ownselves, and of them are some who follow a middle course, and of them are some who are, by Allaah’s Leave, foremost in good deeds” [Faatir 35:32]. It is well known that the phrase “those who wrong their own selves” includes one who neglects the obligation of Islam and one who transgresses the sacred limits, and the phrase “those who follow a middle course” includes the one who fulfils the obligations of Islam and refrains from haraam things, and the phrase “those who are foremost in good deeds” includes the one who goes ahead and draws close to Allah by means of naafil good deeds in addition to obligatory duties.

Moreover each of the commentators may mention different types of acts of worship (sc.) when commenting on this verse:

One may say that the one who is foremost in doing good deeds is the one who prays at the beginning of the time for the prayer, the one who follows a middle course is the one who prays within the period for that prayer, and the one who wrongs himself is the one who delays praying ‘Asr until the sun has turned yellow [i.e., close to sunset].

Another commentator may say that the one who is foremost in doing good deeds and the one who follows a middle course and the one who wrongs himself are the ones who are mentioned at the end of Soorat al-Baqarah, where it describes the doer of good as the one who gives charity, the one who wrongs himself as someone who consumes riba, and the one who follows a middle path as being the one who is honest his dealings.

Each interpretation refers to some qualities that come under the meaning mentioned in the verse so as to tell the listener that this is included in the meaning of the verse and to point to another shade of meaning. Explaining by giving examples is much easier than speaking in general terms, and the sound mind will understand that the example given refers to something more general, just as the one who is shown a loaf of bread and is told that this is called bread (khubz) understands that this word refers to bread in general and not just this particular loaf. End quote.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 13/332-338

He also said (may Allah have mercy on him):

It should be noted that the differences that arose among the commentators are of two types:

The first type is those in which there is no contradiction, rather each view may be correct and it is no more than a variation in the shades of meaning or describing the same meaning from different perspectives. In most cases the differences that are proven to be from the commentators among the early generations, the Sahaabah and Taabi’een, are of this type. When Allah mentions something in the Qur'aan, such as the verse in which He says (interpretation of the meaning): “Guide us to the Straight Way (al-siraat al-mustaqeem)” [al-Faatihah 1:6], each of the commentators explained the straight path with a phrase which is indicative of some of its meaning or attributes, and all of that is true. So some of them said that the straight path means the Book of Allah or following the Book of Allah. Another said that the straight path means Islam, or the religion of Islam. Another said that the straight path means the Sunnah and the main body of the Muslims (al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah). Another said that the straight path means the way of complete servitude to Allah (‘uboodiyyah) or the way of hope and fear, love of Allah, or obeying commands and heeding prohibitions, following the Qur'aan and Sunnah, striving to obey Allah and other words and phrases.

It is known that what is referred to is one and that there are variations in attributes and wording.

And there is another type, in which the commentator explained the meaning by giving an example without wanting to limit the meaning to the example he gave, such as when a foreigner says what does “bread” mean? And he is shown a piece of bread. End quote.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 13/381-384

The second type is verses in which the differences concerning the interpretation are opposite or contradictory. This is very rare and applies to only a few verses; these differences are well known and limited.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

Differences concerning tafseer among the salaf are very rare; their differences concerning rulings are more common than their differences concerning tafseer. Most of the saheeh reports which speak of their differences have to do with variations on shades of meaning, not contradictory opinions. End quote.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 13/178

There are many reasons for these differences and they have been studied by specialised scholars. The reader may consult Asbaab Ikhtilaaf al-Mufassireen by Prof. Dr. Muhammad al-Shaayi’ and Ikhtilaaf al-Mufassireen Asbaabuhu wa Athaaruhu by Prof. Dr. Sa’ood al-Funaysaan.

Fourthly:

This second type should not be a reason for doubting the validity of the Qur'aan for a number of reasons:

1- It does not occur concerning any the verses that have to do with beliefs or the aims of Sharee’ah; rather it only occurs concerning the verses on rulings, such as the difference of opinion among the scholars on meaning of the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “And divorced women shall wait (as regards their marriage) for three menstrual periods” [al-Baqarah 2:228]: does al-qar’ (translated here as menstrual period) refer to purity or menses? Or it may occur in the commentary on some Qur’aanic contexts that have to do with stories or exhortation and the like, such as their difference of opinion on the meaning of the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “Then [the babe ‘Eesa (Jesus) or Jibreel (Gabriel)] cried unto her from below her, saying: “Grieve not: your Lord has provided a water stream under you” [Maryam 19:24]. -- is the one who called out Jibreel or ‘Eesa (peace be upon them both)? This difference of opinion -- as you can see -- does not have to do with the essence of belief or sharee’ah; rather it is a fiqhi matter in which Allah willed that some differences should occur out of mercy towards this ummah and also as a test; or it is a difference that does not affect the general meaning of the verse.

2- These differences -- although they are very rare -- mostly occurred among the later generations. If we go back to the tafseer of the early generations, the Sahaabah and Taabi’een, we would not find most of these differences that are found in later books of tafseer.

3- Finally, there is wisdom in the fact that the meaning of some verses is not quite clear, so that people will strive hard and there will be discussion of these verses and knowledge in books and people's minds.
http://islamqa.info/en/ref/112787
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Muhammad
04-04-2013, 06:33 PM
:salamext:

format_quote Originally Posted by Tyrion
I feel like a lot of Muslims rely only on scholars and classical exegesis (which can sometimes lead to a rigidity I'm not too fond of), while others choose to interpret based on the times and their own understanding. This is all made even more difficult due to the fact that the Quran is in classical Arabic, and a lot of it can be vague. (Though I personally think that this vagueness is intentional, since it would give it a lot of room to be interpreted through the ages, by different cultures and people, and to stay relevant, but I know a lot of people would favor a far more strict and literal translation.)
Due to the fact that there are so many pre-requisites required to interpret the Qur'an on a deeper level, it makes sense to rely on scholars who have specialised in this field. It is not as if there is doubt regarding the sincerity of intention or piety of those scholars. Nor is it the case that they are inventing their own rulings. People often place a lot of trust in specialists regarding worldly affairs, like health for example, why then do we feel obliged to rush to our 'own understanding' in religious matters, especially when we are far from being qualified to do so? It is actually the neglect of turning to the experts that paves the way for error in understanding. We begin to see interpretations in total opposition to the dictates of the Arabic language and contradicting explicit verses or hadeeth. Allaah :swt: Himself has praised the people of knowledge in the Qur'an, thus we should ask and learn from them.

I think a lot of people also run into issues when you bring Hadith into the picture, which can sometimes seem like they approach issues differently than the Quran on certain topics, or complicate things due to the sheer number of sayings and interpretations of those saying. This gives more reason for some to rely heavily on the opinions of others, but then it also makes it that much more difficult for the layman since the hadith literature is so vast and not easily accessible, and the authenticity isn't on the same level as the Quran. This difficulty can also lead to a kind of absolute dependence on a religious authority, which can sometimes become dangerous. But you can see why some people feel the need to go there.
It is not an option whether a person wants to 'bring Hadith into the picture', or not. It is a must. Hadith provide so much more information and clarification, without which we would not know many things like how to pray, give charity, fast, perform Hajj, etc. Of course, it is beyond the ability of a layman thus we go back to the point above of referring to the scholars. Nobody is saying there is an 'absolute dependence on a religious authority', as if somebody is being nominated as the Pope. Scholars themselves have advised leaving any part of their work which goes against authentic teachings. You will find their works being checked and edited by other scholars. You will find some work being recommended above others based upon more stringent methodology that is used. So it is not a fair impression that you have given in your post.
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tearose
04-04-2013, 06:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Some pertained to Muhammad's followers at certain times in history (for example when they were in Medina or Mekkah) and others are valid for all Muslims during all ages
The fact that some ayaat were revealed in relation to events that happened involving the companions (radia Allahu 3anhum) of the Messenger of Allah:saws: does not mean they are not valid for Muslims during all ages - not sure why you would think that? Either there is an important lesson for us in those events or principles were established/revealed then that we still follow. in sha Allah someone will be able to explain this point better - hopefully you know what I wanted to say.
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Ahmad H
04-04-2013, 07:39 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by glo
Thank you for your reply, Ahmad.


Is it really as simple as that?
I hear Muslims talking about Qu'ranic verses which are literal and others which are metaphorical. Some pertained to Muhammad's followers at certain times in history (for example when they were in Medina or Mekkah) and others are valid for all Muslims during all ages.

That doesn't sound to me like just anybody can pick up the Qu'ran, read it and immediately know how to understand it ...

Which takes me back to the question how to make sure that one follows the right interpretation, the right teaching, the right scholar etc.
My point above was to outline the conditions for a commentary on the Qur'an. I did not say that anyone can do it. In fact, I mentioned underneath those points that you need to have mastery of Arabic in order to be able to do any sort of commentary on it. I see a lot of non-Muslims who point to different translations of the Qur'an and come to hasty conclusions based off of only that.

As for the literal and metaphorical verses, that much is certain. That is why I said above that not everyone can interpret the Qur'an. Only the high-level scholars can do so. And I don't just mean any scholar, one with the light of knowledge from Allah Himself. But I couldn't post that part since it was edited out by one of the administrators. Unfortunately, some don't agree with me on the fact that the Qur'an requires Divine knowledge in order to be interpreted. It's sad that I can't express my views fully because someone else's opinion is getting in the way.

But anyhow, one must actually have knowledge from Allah and not use their own opinions to interpret the Qur'an. Opinions are unacceptable despite what any Muslim would say. The Holy Prophet (saw) said that no one should attempt to interpret the Qur'an based on their own ideas of what it might mean. The Qur'an does explain itself best, but this is not the only condition. All of the conditions must be meet before one can proceed to say that a verse can be commented on. No regular Muslim can comment on the Qur'an. Any Muslim who tries to do this and spreads this opinion to others as if it is a Tafsir has done themselves wrong because they will be liable for what they say on the Day of Judgment about what Allah said. It is no joke when one tries to give a meaning to the Qur'an which may not actually be there. It is them trying to say that Allah said one thing, while he didn't actually say that. Imagine, us saying what we think Allah said and getting it wrong! It is a very serious offense and Allah will most likely question that individual about what they said.

As for which scholars are best for this, I mentioned a couple of them above. They are not the only ones, but they are often referred to by most Muslims when trying to understand verses of the Qur'an.
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Muhammad
04-04-2013, 08:12 PM
The following post may also contain some useful information:
http://www.islamicboard.com/clarific...ml#post1106953

But I couldn't post that part since it was edited out by one of the administrators. Unfortunately, some don't agree with me on the fact that the Qur'an requires Divine knowledge in order to be interpreted. It's sad that I can't express my views fully because someone else's opinion is getting in the way.
You can use the Helpdesk if there is any problem :ia:.
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