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Samiun
05-19-2013, 02:46 AM
:sl: an awesome answer by Nouman Ali Khan, I use to think about it a lot but then I've received such an outstanding answer from one of his interviews on TheDeenShow

"There's sisters across the country that used to wear hijab and took it off. They use to understand it, they use to attend classes, they learn a lot, they researched the issue, if you ask them that the hijab is mandatory they'll tell you yes. So now you can argue, 'now I'm really confused' cause I understand someone who took it off because they don't know any better. Here's a sister who knows it, studied the issue and then took it off. What's going on there? And it's too easy to say these people are hypocrites or they're not true believers, it's not fair to them, we have tu understand what's going on. You know we a lot of times don't appreciate how difficult it can be. You know I can't appreciate as a man, and you can't as a man but a sister's perspective. Just like they have a hard time understanding our perspective. Right, I have 3 daughters a wife mum 3 sisters, they don't understand me like you know my father can or another man can and I don't understand them like they can't understand each other. For a woman to go to college, her corporate work place, to work at the hospital whatever else. And for her to spend hours and hours working around men and they look at her funny and they say things and they pass comments and it hurt her feelings and she's constantly putting up with that and it can really take a toll on a person. And it's not easy for a girl to take her hijab off, it's a very difficult decision. There's something very personal that happened in their lives that made them do that or is keeping them from putting it on it's more than just their not convinced it's not the best or their outdated. These are just things to say. But what's going on behind the scenes is, there's fear, there's real concern, there's people making all kind of weird arguments. Like if you put it on you'll become the center of attention. I thought the point of hijab was to not get attention but once you put it on you become the full center of attention. So there's a lot of psychological stuff going on that has to be solved at a person to person basis it can't be resolved in one speech and in the behaviors of other we can't pass judgement that easily. Because we do not know what's going on behind the scenes. Just like somebody who's drinking, of course it's haram but what led that guy to drink? What kind of trauma did he go through? We kinda had to deal with people in a human sort of way and that's what our messenger (S.A.W.) did." -Nouman Ali Khan
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Hulk
05-19-2013, 09:32 AM
Wa alaykumsalam

Brother did you transcribe this yourself? Would it be possible to share a link to the video?
Might be a good idea to paragraph so as to make it easier to read.
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IbnAbdulHakim
05-19-2013, 10:14 AM
i didnt like that.

taking off hijab is simply a weakness of imaan. theres no need to complicate it
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Samiun
05-19-2013, 03:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hulk
Wa alaykumsalam

Brother did you transcribe this yourself? Would it be possible to share a link to the video?
Might be a good idea to paragraph so as to make it easier to read.
Done and Done! Here's the LINK
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theplains
05-19-2013, 04:33 PM
Thank you. I watched most of the video.

I can understand the concept of a man or women wearing modest clothing, but the video
did not explain (with the Quran or the Hadiths) that it is mandatory for a women to wear a
total face covering.

I see many Muslim men that do not wear any head covering, unware that their hair can
become the focus of attraction to another women. It only seems to focus on making sure
that the women do not generate attraction in the male.

14:14 says that hijab should be put under the chapter of Modestry, of Shame, of Guarding
Yourself. But if you have a standard for the men, apply the same standard to women too.

15:15 says there is a hijab for the head, a hijab for the face, and a hijab for the body but
he does not provide Quranic or Hadiths to show that it is mandatory for the women to
wear it on her head or cover her face while the Muslim man is excused.

I'll see a uniform ummah when all wear the hijab on the head and face.

Peace,
Jim
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Ahmad H
05-19-2013, 04:56 PM
It is very true what Noman said. After reading enough Ahadith, you learn that you shouldn't make things harder for anyone else, be they Muslim or non-Muslim. Make things easy. This is the reason why Islamic governments that enforce rules of Sharia on men and women find more people move away from Islam and fall into Satanic lures.
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Samiun
05-19-2013, 05:42 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by theplains
Thank you. I watched most of the video.

I can understand the concept of a man or women wearing modest clothing, but the video
did not explain (with the Quran or the Hadiths) that it is mandatory for a women to wear a
total face covering.

I see many Muslim men that do not wear any head covering, unware that their hair can
become the focus of attraction to another women. It only seems to focus on making sure
that the women do not generate attraction in the male.

14:14 says that hijab should be put under the chapter of Modestry, of Shame, of Guarding
Yourself. But if you have a standard for the men, apply the same standard to women too.

15:15 says there is a hijab for the head, a hijab for the face, and a hijab for the body but
he does not provide Quranic or Hadiths to show that it is mandatory for the women to
wear it on her head or cover her face while the Muslim man is excused.

I'll see a uniform ummah when all wear the hijab on the head and face.

Peace,
Jim
Nouman Ali Khan explains it at 23:00 beautifully~ You should have watched the whole video dude :)
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Futuwwa
05-19-2013, 09:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by IbnAbdulHakim
taking off hijab is simply a weakness of imaan. theres no need to complicate it
Reality is, most of the time, quite complicated. Pretending that it's simple and acting accordingly can lead one catastrophically wrong.
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IbnAbdulHakim
05-19-2013, 10:27 PM
^ its possible to complicate anything bro. But the reality is always simple .

The shaytan and nafs played and played till she took off her hijab and lost the battle.
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Vito
05-19-2013, 11:25 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by theplains
Thank you. I watched most of the video.

I can understand the concept of a man or women wearing modest clothing, but the video
did not explain (with the Quran or the Hadiths) that it is mandatory for a women to wear a
total face covering.

I see many Muslim men that do not wear any head covering, unware that their hair can
become the focus of attraction to another women. It only seems to focus on making sure
that the women do not generate attraction in the male.

14:14 says that hijab should be put under the chapter of Modestry, of Shame, of Guarding
Yourself. But if you have a standard for the men, apply the same standard to women too.

15:15 says there is a hijab for the head, a hijab for the face, and a hijab for the body but
he does not provide Quranic or Hadiths to show that it is mandatory for the women to
wear it on her head or cover her face while the Muslim man is excused.

I'll see a uniform ummah when all wear the hijab on the head and face.

Peace,
Jim
Here is the source you're looking for: http://corpus.quran.com/translation....er=24&verse=31

Men don't have to wear a hijab because it was never required of us. Women have to wear a hijab because it was required of them. Its as simple as that. Our creator knows us better than we do and anything that is required of us is meant to be for our benefit and we should try our best to follow it. There are laws and rules put in place for a reason.

I won't speak about the difficulties of wearing a hijab because I'm not a woman. I'd imagine it takes more courage to wear it in non Muslim areas but, if a female were to start wearing one, it shouldn't be forced and only be worn for the sake of Allah and nothing else otherwise they might find reasons to take it off in the future.

Although it isn't required for us men to cover our hair, there are a lot of men both here and in other countries that prefer to cover themselves from head to toe. And modesty comes in many forms and not just the covering of oneself. The way we talk, the way we dress (as discussed), the way we present and carry ourselves, the way we treat others, etc. Simply saying something along the lines of "if they have to do it, then we have to do it to" is simply not the case. Despite what anyone believes men and women are different and there are things that apply to women only and things that apply to men only for good reasons. As a Muslim, it is our duty to trust Allah's words.


I'll see a uniform ummah when all wear the hijab on the head and face.
I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean but, since you're a Christian, if you're worried about modesty and dress code, I'd start at the churches. I've seen people dressed up like they're going to a night club. Just sayin..
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truthseeker63
05-20-2013, 03:24 AM
Good Thread.
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BeTheChange
01-02-2014, 10:20 PM
It's so true. We are all (including myself) are too quick to judge people. We haven't lived thier life, we haven't lived the experiences that their have been through and we do not know their state of mind and intentions.

We should make 100 excuses for a Muslim before we even think of judging them (reason behind this is it's not possible to think of 100 so we shouldn't judge).

Rather than helping people we quickly dive in and hurt them where it really hurts.

Muslim ummah? a forgotten concept, a lost community an invisible community. imsad
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muslimah bird
01-03-2014, 07:08 AM
Good video , jazakhallah for sharing
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Muhaba
01-03-2014, 07:25 AM
Well, first of all these women shouldn't be forced to work in an unislamic environment. If women are forced to work in an unislamic environment (by circumstances) then they might be forced to remove their hijab too. If they have someone to provide for them and they aren't forced to work, they can wait longer without work and take up a job in a more Islamic environment, work from home, or not work at all. The hijab shouldn't be sacrificed at all in any circumstance but if women are living in an unislamic society and have no source of income except themselves and they have to get work, then despite their beliefs they it's possible they succumb to the pressures and remove their hijab. The Muslim man (her male relatives and even muslim community) is greatly responsible in this situation. They should make sure that muslim women are not forced to work in an unislamic environment or take of their hijab for any reason. Male relatives should take care of their muslim female relatives and those females who have no muslim male relatives should be helped by the Islamic community. This doesn't mean that the community has to give charity to such women. Rather, the community can help the women find work in an Islamic environment. For example, the imam of a masjid can ask the people in congregation if anyone can provide work to a particular muslim woman, even temporarily until she finds work in a better place. How many muslims in the West (unislamic countries) have their own businesses? If they employed Muslim women then Muslim women wouldn't be forced to work in an unislamic environment and be pressured to remove their hijab.
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