The religion of Jesus was Islam and NOT Christianity.

[OmAbdullah]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

The religion of all of the Prophets from Adam alaihi salaam to the Final Prophet Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم has been Islam only. The true followers of Jesus and Muses (Eisa and Musa عليهما السلام ) were Muslims.

When the followers of Jesus ( Eisa عليه السلام ) turned away from His Path of Islam and got involved in polytheism, Christianity came into being.
When the followers of Muses ( Musa عليه السلام ) turned away from His Path of Islam, Judaism came into being.

[Nakai]

Do you have proof of this?

[OmAbdullah]

Do you have proof of this?

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
Peace,

I have answered your question in the other thread. I hope that you read it.
Here also I can give you proof from the Holy Quraan which is Muhaimin on the previous Heavenly Books ( Muhaimin means that all that truth which was sent down by Almighty God to the previous Prophets is preserved in the Holy Quraan. Therefore to know exactly the message of your Prophet Jesus (Eisa alaihi salaam) you must read the Holy Quraan. The chapters that have statement about Jesus and Mary are many but I will write the names of a few of them. These are:

Surah Aal-i- Imran ( The family of Imran, please remember that Imran was the father of Mary (Maryam)), verses: 33—60

In the same chapter verses 65 – 68 are about Abraham (Ibrahim alaihi salaam). In verse 67 Allah said that Ibrahim (alaihi salaam) was neither Jew nor Christian, but he was a pure/true Muslim and he was not from the idolators.

This is another proof that Ibrahim alaihi salaam (Abraham) was a Muslim and thus His religion was Islam.
Again please note in the verse 52 the disciples saying to Jesus, “ Be witness that we are Muslims”.
This proves that the true followers of Jesus and his disciples were Muslims, so their religion was Islam.
You may be knowing that Jesus and His mother were from the children of Israel. Israel is the second name of Yaqoob alaihi salaam. He was the son of Is-haaq alaihi salaam and the grand son of Ibrahim alaihi salaam. He also was a Prophet (Allah's Peace and Blessings be upon him). His name in Bible is Jacob. In the 2^nd chapter of the Holy Quraan Allah said:

Or were you witnesses when death approached Ya'qub (Jacob)? When he said unto his sons, "What will you worship after me?" They said, "We shall worship your Ilah (God - Allah), the Ilah (God) of your fathers, Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma'il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), One Ilah (God), and to Him we submit (in Islam)." Chapter 2 (Al Baqarah) verse 133

This verse proves that the religion of the children of Israel was Islam, Thus the religion of Muses and Jesus was Islam only.

Allah is the only one God who has no son no father and no relative. God is High Above such qualities. The same One God sent all of the Prophets for the guidance of mankind and Almighty God chose only Islam to be the religion of all mankind. No other religion will be accepted from mankind. See verse 19 of the same chapter Aal-i-Imran.

Other chapters about Jesus:
Surah (chapter) Maryam (Mary) verses 16—40
Surah (chapter) Al-Maa’idah verses 17, 72—76, and 110—120.

You will also find many great miracles of Jesus in these chapters. His name was Eisa and His Mother’s name was Maryam but people changed their names too.

[OmAbdullah]

Allah سبحانه و تعالى said in the Holy Quraan, chapter Aali-Imran, verse 19:

Truly, the religion with Allah is Islam. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, then surely, Allah is Swift in calling to account.

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[Peacetoall]

If i Do Gods will,but Refuse organized religion,what would you call me? I am studying Both the Quraan and the Bible, both tell you to defend yourself, but also forgive. yes Jesus did say turn the other cheek, but this was with a hand, not a gun or sword, i don't believe god would want us to just let another abuse us.

[sister herb]

If i Do Gods will,but Refuse organized religion,what would you call me? I am studying Both the Quraan and the Bible, both tell you to defend yourself, but also forgive. yes Jesus did say turn the other cheek, but this was with a hand, not a gun or sword, i don't believe god would want us to just let another abuse us.

Peace with you

How you call yourself?

[Wllmdrg]

I don't label myself, just try and obey god

[Karl]

Jesus was a devout Jew.
The Jews were highly influenced by the Greeks and Egyptians, Babylonians etc. Christianity was started by the Holy Roman Church big time. When a man is worshipped as God that makes it a cult or maybe a more complex pagan religion.

[Peacetoall]

While this is historically right, Christians Christmas and Easter taken directly from nimrods Babylon itself, what does it have to do with me doing gods will? I follow the ten commandments, and try to help all others by helping society however I can. But I don't understand why you even brought up Judaism?

[Peacetoall]

Jesus was a devout Jew.
The Jews were highly influenced by the Greeks and Egyptians, Babylonians etc. Christianity was started by the Holy Roman Church big time. When a man is worshiped as God that makes it a cult or maybe a more complex pagan religion.

are you saying this to me or the person who asked for proof, i do not understand? I am Not a Jew/or a Roman Catholic. I just try to understand God and do his will, but i stay away from organized religions because logically this is where the majority of all problems with the mass deaths have occurred in this world. so I try to do Gods will without anyone else telling me what to do but god, thus why i am studying all views. I'm not saying Islam is wrong, but i tend to not mesh well with others because of my disabilities. I dont always say what i mean because of massive brain damage, so the possibility that through speech, i might offend someone is far more likely then when i type. Peace to you.

[Insaanah]

:salam:

Jesus was a devout Jew.

Isa alayhissalaam (Jesus, peace be on him) was a devout Muslim.

The religion of Moosa, ‘Eesa and all the Prophets was, generally speaking, Islam, which means believing in the Oneness of Allaah (Tawheed) and worshipping Him alone with no partner or associate, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Truly, the religion with Allaah is Islam”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:19]

“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

And He tells us that Nooh (peace be upon him) said (interpretation of the meaning):

“and I have been commanded to be of the Muslims (i.e. those who submit to Allaah’s Will)”

[Yoonus 10:72]

And He tells us of Ibraaheem (peace be upon him) (interpretation of the meaning):

“Ibraaheem (Abraham) was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was a true Muslim Haneefa (Islamic Monotheism — to worship none but Allaah Alone) and he was not of Al‑Mushrikoon”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:67]

And He tells us that Moosa (peace be upon him) said (interpretation of the meaning):

“ ‘O my people! If you have believed in Allaah, then put your trust in Him if you are Muslims (those who submit to Allaah’s Will)’”

[Yoonus 10:84]

And He tells us that Yoosuf (peace be upon him) said (interpretation of the meaning):

“ ‘Cause me to die as a Muslim (the one submitting to Your Will), and join me with the righteous’”

[Yoosuf 12:101]

So it cannot be said of Moosa that his religion was Judaism, rather his religion was Islam, and his followers were called Jews (al-Yahood) because they said Hidna ilayka i.e., we have repented and come back; or because they are called after Yehoodhah (Judah) the oldest of the sons of Ya’qoob (Jacob – peace be upon him). Similarly, the religion of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) was Islam, not Christianity. The Christians (al-Nasaarah) are his followers who supported him (nasaruhu).

But he (peace be upon him) was a follower of the Tawraat (Torah), who followed and affirmed it, because he was one of the Children of Israel, to whom Moosa (peace be upon him) had been sent, then Allaah revealed to him the Injeel (Gospel) in which was a confirmation of what was in the Torah, as stated above.

What we have mentioned means that the religion brought by ‘Eesa was Islam, if what the questioner meant was to find out and ask about his religion.

But if he was asking about the lineage of the Messiah (peace be upon him) and the people among whom he was born and to whom he was sent, then the Prophet of Allaah ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) was indisputably one of the Children of Israel, the Children of Israel who subsequently became known as the Jews, as we have indicated above.

What the scholars state here is that he is to be attributed to his lineage and people, so it may be said that he was one of the Children of Israel. As for the word “Jew”, it is used to refer to a specific religion, so it should be avoided when referring to ‘Eesa (peace be upon him), even though we know that his people were the Children of Israel who used to follow the law of the Torah before him, and he came to confirm what was in it except for a few rulings which he changed.

http://islamqa.info/en/116826

[Karl]

:salam:



Isa alayhissalaam (Jesus, peace be on him) was a devout Muslim.



http://islamqa.info/en/116826

Ok I will clarify Jesus (PBUH) was a follower of the Torah and Talmud. It is true the word "Jew" was not in use back then. They were a dusky Semitic people called Hebrews and later when they invaded the land of the Canaanites, called Israelites. Saying Jesus was a Muslim is technically wrong as Islam did not exist back then. But if you have the point of view that Jehovah and Allah are the same God I suppose you have a point. It would be like a Roman pagan saying a Greek pagan worships Jupiter when in fact the Greek worshipped Zeus. It is a matter of semantics.

[Abz2000]

Assalamu'alaikum wr wb

Allah swt tells us that Abraham was neither a jew nor christian but a sincere Muslim,
- the tribe called jews came into existence later - his pbuh grandson was Isra-eel (ya'qub),
However it must be clear the jesus was a jewish Muslim (or person from the tribe of Jews (or children of Israel) who submitted to Allah - but preferred the universal term - son of man).

Allah confirms that those among the descendents of ya'qub pbuh who were called jews were Muslims when they submitted:

[5.44] Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light;
with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews,
and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof;
therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My signs,
and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the infidels.

'إِنَّا أَنْزَلْنَا التَّوْرَاةَ فِيهَا هُدًى وَنُورٌ ۚ يَحْكُمُ بِهَا النَّبِيُّونَ الَّذِينَ
أَسْلَمُوا
لِلَّذِينَ هَادُوا وَالرَّبَّانِيُّونَ وَالْأَحْبَارُ بِمَا اسْتُحْفِظُوا مِنْ كِتَابِ اللَّهِ وَكَانُوا عَلَيْهِ شُهَدَاءَ ۚ فَلَا تَخْشَوُا النَّاسَ وَاخْشَوْنِ وَلَا تَشْتَرُوا بِآيَاتِي ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا ۚ وَمَنْ لَمْ يَحْكُمْ بِمَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْكَافِرُونَ (44)' [سورة المائدة]


with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews,

The operative term here is ASLAMOO.

[Karl]

I suppose it is a question of meaning and language. Did Abraham speak Arabic? Did he say Allah? Did he call himself a Muslim? Did he follow the five pillars of Islam?
I believe (I might be wrong) that the meaning in calling Abraham a Muslim is that he was a slave of the one true God and not a polytheist that most people were in those days.

[Abz2000]

I suppose it is a question of meaning and language. Did Abraham speak Arabic? Did he say Allah? Did he call himself a Muslim? Did he follow the five pillars of Islam?
I believe (I might be wrong) that the meaning in calling Abraham a Muslim is that he was a slave of the one true God and not a polytheist that most people were in those days.

That's what it's meant to mean, the fact that we fall short of standards doesn't give it a separate meaning.

God tells the angels and iblis to prostrate to clay - if they refuse they are comitting a major sin.
God forbids adam from prostraing to clay - if man does so he is commiting major sin.

The clay or tribal dna composition is not of significance but the command is.

[Karl]

That's what it's meant to mean, the fact that we fall short of standards doesn't give it a separate meaning.

God tells the angels and iblis to prostrate to clay - if they refuse they are comitting a major sin.
God forbids adam from prostraing to clay - if man does so he is commiting major sin.

The clay or tribal dna composition is not of significance but the command is.

Ok I understand. Let's say a Marxist said that a group of ancient people were Marxists because they lived in a commune. That would be totally wrong. But Islam comes (excuse my crass writing, my English is poor) from the old testament and some of the new, a sort of new edition of both. An accessible version for the common folk for at first to enlighten the superstitious Arab pagans and to spread across the world. The only anomaly I have come across is on the issue of blood money. It is very similar to the law of the northerners that worshipped the Norse gods or "the old way". Check out the "Icelandic Sagas".

[Abz2000]

Islam isn't comparable to marxism in this context though, the same Source created and revealed directly through the Prophets which makes submission to the will of that source one way of life until and unless there is rejection of that message or later messages which override earlier declarations.
And if other tribes or generations have used similar legislation, it is possible that it has trickled down as an accepted working model, and since Islam is a working model it only confirms the truth. Doesn't mean that just because a pagan tribe had a similar inheritance law or punishment for theft or method of encompassing a focal centre when praying - that Islam must reject it in order to be different, if they had a similar method, their experiences or fitrah or assimilation of a previous monotheist Muslim nation who used it possibly guided them by Allah's leave - good for them.

Here's a little tidbit that may shed some light on how names evolved, we know frome the Quran that they were originally known as nasranee or nasuaaraa, and from what remains of the new testament "nazarenes or nazarites originating from the name of the town "Nazareth".

The book of acts itself describes how the term christians or masiheens or whatever it may have been came about:

New International Version

and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people.

The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

New Living Translation

When he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. Both of them stayed there with the church for a full year, teaching large crowds of people. (It was at Antioch that the believers were first called Christians.)

Acts 11:26

Antioch being in greece streches the timeline a bit.

[Karl]

Very good answer Abz2000. And since the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last of the messenger prophets there can be no changes, reforms, modernizations or sects, cults or whatever.

The phrase "the Nazarene" is usually said spitefully by witches and servants of Satan, when talking of Jesus (PBUH) as it galls them to give him any respect. So keep on the lookout for people who talk like that.

[Abz2000]

They adopted the name themselves when they chose to uphold the status quo as being separate from the main body of jews who had stuck with the national priests and rabbis who were under the dominion of cesar.

From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.
Quran Ch.5 V.14

The Arabic words used above contain "innaa nasuaara" (verily/truly/cartainly we are nasuaaraa)
So it appears that the people who followed that way used the term and were responsive to it as can be seen from the hadith regarding the question of scholar worship by Adiyy ibn Haatim atTayy.

Can't have been as slang as n*gguh (even though black rappers love using it).
Was also used by indians:

Nasrani, an ethnoreligious group from Kerala, India, named after the Syriac Aramaic term for Christians.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene


The*Saint Thomas Christians, also called*Syrian Christians*or*Nasrani, are a community of*Christians*from*Kerala,*India, who trace their origins to the evangelistic activity of*Saint Thomas*in the 1st century,
and is one of the oldest Christian communities of the world.[3][4]*
The community was historically united in leadership and liturgy, but since the 17th century have been split into several different church denominations and traditions.
They are also known, especially locally, as the*Nasrani*or*Nasrani Mappila. "Nasrani" is a term meaning "Christian"; it appears to be derived from*Nazareth, the home town of Jesus.

[OmAbdullah]

Assalamu'alaikum wr wb

Allah swt tells us that Abraham was neither a jew nor christian but a sincere Muslim,
- the tribe called jews came into existence later - his pbuh grandson was Isra-eel (ya'qub),
However it must be clear the jesus was a jewish Muslim (or person from the tribe of Jews (or children of Israel) who submitted to Allah - but preferred the universal term - son of man).

Allah confirms that those among the descendents of ya'qub pbuh who were called jews were Muslims when they submitted:

[5.44] Surely We revealed the Taurat in which was guidance and light;
with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews,
and the masters of Divine knowledge and the doctors, because they were required to guard (part) of the Book of Allah, and they were witnesses thereof;
therefore fear not the people and fear Me, and do not take a small price for My signs,
and whoever did not judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the infidels.

'إِنَّا أَنْزَلْنَا التَّوْرَاةَ فِيهَا هُدًى وَنُورٌ ۚ يَحْكُمُ بِهَا النَّبِيُّونَ الَّذِينَ
أَسْلَمُوا
لِلَّذِينَ هَادُوا وَالرَّبَّانِيُّونَ وَالْأَحْبَارُ بِمَا اسْتُحْفِظُوا مِنْ كِتَابِ اللَّهِ وَكَانُوا عَلَيْهِ شُهَدَاءَ ۚ فَلَا تَخْشَوُا النَّاسَ وَاخْشَوْنِ وَلَا تَشْتَرُوا بِآيَاتِي ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا ۚ وَمَنْ لَمْ يَحْكُمْ بِمَا أَنْزَلَ اللَّهُ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْكَافِرُونَ (44)' [سورة المائدة]


with it the prophets who submitted themselves (to Allah) judged (matters) for those who were Jews,

The operative term here is ASLAMOO.

It is very wrong to call Eisa (Jesus) alaihi salaam, "son of man". It is not befitting for a Muslim to use such words of unbelief. Surely, Eisa (jesus) alaihi salaam was the son of a woman only and he is called "Eisa Ibn Maryam" every where in the Holy Quraan.

[Abz2000]

The fact that Jesus is descended from Adam and Mary is descended from Adam requires no mental gymnastics. Adam is Al Insaan.

Nor would any Muslim be rightly offended if referred to as a Son/daughter of Adam or Son/daughter of Al Insaan.

are you (a female) a unit of "mankind"?
but hey! you're not a man, so how can you be a member - you know exactly what i mean don't you?
Mary was also called "ukht a haruun" in al Quran, decipher that if you will.

Answer :In His Name the Most High,All praise is due to Allah, may peace be upon Muhammed and his pure progeny and may the curse of Allah be upon their enemies.*The Office Answer:Assalamu Alaikum,*Arabs often use idioms, as such, in connection with one’s lineage.

For example, the idiom “Ya Akha al-‘Arab” is used to refer to someone who is of Arab lineage or “Ya Akha al-Khazraj” is used to refer to someone who is from the lineage of Khazraj, or “Ya Akha Abdul Qays” which is used to refer to someone who is a descendant of Abdul Qays, and so on.*

Therefore, the use of the idiom “Ya 'Ukhta Harūna” or “O’ sister of Aaron” in the Quranic verse (19:28) is not literal and means that Mary (peace be upon her) was from the lineage of Prophet Aaron (peace be upon him). By analogy, Allah the Most Exalted has said in Chapter Al-Ahqaf, speaking of Prophet Hud (peace be upon him); “And mention the brother of Aad; when he warned his people in the sandy plains” (46:21) that is, “And mention (Hud who is from the lineage) of Aad; when he warned his people in the sandy plains”24th Ramadhan 1431The Office of Sheikh al-Habib in LondonReading :*5242******

http://www.alqatrah.net/en/question/index.php?id=49
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The case here is based on a superficial reading of Qur'an 19:28 without taking into account the qualities of Mary, mother of Jesus. No real effort has been exerted to properly understand the context in which the phrase “sister of Aaron” was uttered, either by earlier Western scholars or the Christian missionaries. Although this alleged historical contradiction is now rejected by modern Western scholars, as we shall see, it is worthwhile pointing out why this is the case. We will also draw attention to some important aspects of the story of Mary in the Qur'an that were hitherto missed by earlier scholars.

.....

Mughira b. Shu‘ba reported: When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me:

You read "O sister of Harun" in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born much before Jesus.

When I came back to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) I asked him about that, whereupon he said:

"The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them."

It is clear from this*ḥadīth*that the Prophet did not "confuse" between the two Marys.

He pointed out that people from earlier times gave names after the pious people who had gone before them. Furthermore, the Muslim exegetes have already disproved the alleged confusion of the two Marys using the above*ḥadīth*and the Qur'an itself.

For example, Barbara Freyer Stowasser points out:Mary's designation as "sister of Aaron" (and also "daughter of Amram") has led some non-Muslims to allege a Qur'anic "confusion" of Miriam (Maryam) the sister of Aaron and Moses with Mary (Maryam) the mother of Jesus. This controversy is very old...,*and refutation of the allegation by Muslim authorities is well-documented.

According to the*tafsir, Mary was addressed as "sister of Aaron" because the Qur'an is drawing a comparison, or because she did have a brother by that name.

Elsewhere, concerning the alleged contradiction of the two Mary's, Stowasser, quoting Ibn Kathir, and says:This controversy is as old as the Muslim-Christian dialogue. The Prophet is said to have refuted similar arguments made by the Christians of Najran during his lifetime; "to confuse Mary the mother of Jesus with Mary the sister of Moses and Aaron in Torah is completely wrong and in contradiction to the sound Hadith and the Qur'anic text as we have established it in the Tafsir" (Isma'il ibn Umar Abu l-Fida Ibn Kathir,*Qisas al-anbiya', ed. Mustafa Abd al-Wahid, vol. II [Dar al-kutub al-haditha, 1968] pp. 393-394;[

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Qur...rnal/mary.html

a passage from the bible to indicate the natures of the terms:

Luke

There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia:
and his wife*was*of the daughters of Aaron, and her name*was Elisabeth.

6And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.*7And they had no child, because that Elisabeth was barren, and they both were*nowwell stricken in years.8And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office before God in the order of his course,*9According to the custom of the priest's office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.*10And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense.*

11And there appeared unto him an angel of the Lord standing on the right side of the altar of incense.*12And when Zacharias saw*him, he was troubled, and fear fell upon him.13But the angel said unto him, Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John.*14And thou shalt have joy and gladness; and many shall rejoice at his birth.15For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.*16And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.17And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.

18And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.*

19And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.*

20And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.

21And the people waited for Zacharias, and marvelled that he tarried so long in the temple.22And when he came out, he could not speak unto them: and they perceived that he had seen a vision in the temple: for he beckoned unto them, and remained speechless.*23And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.24And after those days his wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months, saying,*25Thus hath the Lord dealt with me in the days wherein he looked on*me, to take away my reproach among men.

from the hadith of Isra and mi'raj:

Then we ascended to the second heaven.
Gabriel (peace be upon him) (asked the door of heaven to be opened), and he was asked who he was.
He answered: Gabriel; and was again asked: Who is with you? He replied: Muhammad. It was said: Has he been sent for? He replied: He has indeed been sent for. The gate was opened.

When I entered Jesus and John (peace be upon them), maternal cousins, welcomed me and prayed for my good.

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ye get me "blood"?

[vipin]

christainity is not a religion.

jesus didnt establish a religion.

i dont want any religion.

jesus didnt establish islam at all.

[sister herb]

christainity is not a religion.

jesus didnt establish a religion.

i dont want any religion.

jesus didnt establish islam at all.

Islam is not religion either - its a way of life.

You are right - Jesus didn´t establish Islam. The God/Allah established it.

All glory belongs to Allah. :D

[vipin]

Islam is not religion either - its a way of life.

You are right - Jesus didn´t establish Islam. The God/Allah established it.

All glory belongs to Allah. :D

thanks for agreeing jesus didnt establish Islam.

also, Jesus has no part in it.

[sister herb]

also, Jesus has no part in it.

When you claim something like this, you also have to show the proof.

Jesus is mentioned in the Quran many times, so he is part of Islam. Specially because as he is one of the prophets of Islam.

Like:

"..We gave Jesus the son of Mary clear signs and strengthened him with the holy spirit"
HOLY QURAN 2:87

"..O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a word from him: his name will be christ Jesus, the son of Mary..."
HOLY QURAN 3:45

"..Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God.."
HOLY QURAN 4:171

When you read the Quran, you will find more.

[Abz2000]

lol vipin you appear to be blatantly baiting now but it's Eid and i'm stuffed with cow meat so i'm in a good mood.

(1)*Then when Jesus came to know of their disbelief, he said: "Who will be my helpers in Allah's Cause?"
The disciples) said: "We are the helpers of Allah; we believe in Allah, and bear witness that we are Muslims (i.e. we submit to Allah)."

(سورة آل عمران, Aal-i-Imraan, Chapter*#3, Verse*#52)

(2)*And when I (Allah) revealed to Al-Hawariyyun*(the disciples) [of 'Îsa (Jesus)] to believe in Me and My Messenger, they said: "We believe. And bear witness that we are Muslims."*

(سورة المائدة, Al-Maaida, Chapter*#5, Verse*#111) (سورة المائدة, Al-Maaida, Chapter*#5, Verse*#111)

[Karl]

It is all a matter of semantics, maybe Christianity and Islam are sects of the old Abrahamic monotheistic religion. Like Buddhism is an offshoot of Hindoo. It is probably not worth fighting over this as the world is being taken over by the Godless hordes anyway. Totalitarian One World Order by 2030!

[Insaanah]

jesus didnt establish islam at all.

thanks for agreeing jesus didnt establish Islam.

also, Jesus has no part in it.

Vipin, as you progress in your reading of the translation of the Qur'an, you will see that God, whom we refer to as Allah in Arabic, has, since the beginning of humanity, sent a succession of prophets to people throughout the ages, to convey His message to them, and with guidance to show people how He wants them to live and worship Him. Muslims believe in all the prophets Allah sent, and do not reject or blaspheme any of them, from Adam, to the last and final prophet, Muhammad, peace be on them all. They were the purest and noblest of humanity and were not divine in any way. Allah sent all the prophets with the same message and not different messages. The message was: to submit wholeheartedly to Allah and worship Him and Him alone, without any associates in, or parts to, His Exclusive Divinity, and to obey the prophet. This is the very core of Islam. God's prophets and messengers taught that people should be under no misperception that they can commit themselves to Allah as their Lord, and then combine this with accepting others as their Lord, or associating others in His Divinity, in whatever way. They taught that we should strive hard to translate our belief in the One True God into practice, by obeying Allah and the messengers He sent, who were also role models and examples for us, showing us practically how to put the guidance they were sent with into practice in our daily lives, explaining the scriptures, warning against wrong-doing, giving good tidings, and giving additional legislation from Allah.

So Islam is not a new faith, but is the same ultimate universal truth that God revealed to all the prophets, including Noah, Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be on them all), and the same thing they all taught. Thus Islam is not named after a specific person (like Christianity, Buddhism), nor after a certain race or place (like Judaism, Hinduism), but is named by God Himself, the meaning loosely translating as 'submission to God', which is what every Prophet and their righteous followers did, from amongst all times, places and peoples. That in itself is one fraction of the evidence that it was the way of all the Prophets from the beginning.

With time, the message got forgotten or corrupted. So people started worshipping other gods along with Him, made idols, said that God begot a son, said that certain people were incarnations of God, some rejected belief in God altogether, while others elevated the status of some prophets to divine, or at the other end, rejected or blasphemed some of the prophets. Whenever God's message got distorted by people, or forgotten, a new messenger was sent, not with any new or changed message, but reinforcing the actual message that God sent all the messengers with, the actual core beliefs that people were taught from the beginning of humanity, confirming the true parts of previous teachings and scriptures, and correcting wrong beliefs and misconceptions that had crept in.

God required that whenever He sent a new messenger, that messenger should be followed along with any new scripture given to him. This chain of messengers culminates in prophet Muhammad (peace on him), who is the last and final prophet and messenger. Since his prophethood, God's message is available unchanged and unadulterated, for the entire world, until the end of time. He wasn't sent as prophet and messenger for a specific group of people and specific time (e.g. as Moses and Jesus were to the Children of Israel), but he was sent for all the world, for all time, until the Day of Judgement. Thus he is the last, not first, prophet of Islam; a messenger to all mankind, for now, and for all time to come. He is the messenger who must now be followed.

With regards to Jesus (peace be on him), Muslims love and respect Jesus (peace be upon him) and believe in him as he was; one of the noblest and purest of humanity to ever walk the earth, and one of the greatest messengers of Allah, sent to the Children of Israel. We do not reject him (as Jews do), nor do we deify him (as Christians do). Neither he, nor any other messenger, ever claimed divinity, or to be God's son. We believe he was born miraculously of the noble virgin Mary (peace be on her), and that he is the messiah. We do not however, believe that he died or was crucified. He'll return to earth near the end of time.

We call you, Vipin, to that same truth, that all the Prophets, including Jesus, peace be on him, practised and preached. The message didn't suddenly change when it came to Jesus (peace on him), nor did he rebel against God and claim divinity for himself. When you reach Surah al-Maa'idah, the fifth surah, you'll come across these verses, which foretell what Jesus (peace on him) will say when God, on the Day of Judgement, to illustrate to humankind, will ask Jesus whether he claimed divinity or said he should be worshipped:

"He [Jesus] will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. I said not to them except what You commanded me - to worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness." (5:116-117)

Many Muslims who were formerly Christian, say it feels like they have returned home, and they feel closer to Jesus now than when they were Christian. We understand it is natural for you to want to defend what you have believed for so long, and what you currently believe to be the truth, but we hope and pray that you will ponder and reflect, and re-evaluate and reassess the basis for your own beliefs and doctrines. And it is that to which all people are invited by the Qur'an. Your beliefs regarding God, and which faith you follow, are the biggest, most serious and most important decisions you will ever make, as this life will end one day for all of us, and our position regarding God and His messengers is what makes or breaks our hereafter, which is forever. You owe it to yourself, to not regret in the hereafter, when it'll be too late.

Peace.