Should Britain ban the Niqab/Burqa?

[strivingobserver98]

Holland has also now banned the Islamic veil in public places!

"Those breaching the ban can now be fined up to £285." Subhan Allah a world where you get fined for covering up and paid for being naked!

The Daily Express is campaigning for the same in the UK.

Vote NO!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...ampaign=buffer

[BeTheChange]

Asalamualykum,

I've voted no but, i don't think the poll will have any impact on decision-making.

It is very silly to be honest. People should be able to express themselves in their clothing. Clothing is part of your identity.

It seems to me everything is acceptable - apart from being and dressing like a Muslim.

I understand if you was asked to remove your veil for security purposes but they shouldn't ban our human right to dress in whichever manner we choose!

[Karl]

Why don't they just ban Muslims? I don't get it, the System imports huge numbers of Muslims into Britain and then wants to ban what they do. What did they expect? Did they think the Muslims would morph into beer swilling Zionist pommie white trash or something? I just don't get it. Did they think that they could brain wash them into being enemies of Islam and join the Zionist World Order? I don't think that's going to work, or is it to create friction between Whites and Muslims so they forget about the Jews ruling over them?

[Scimitar]

If they do ban it - we will be obligated to migrate to a land which lets us practice freely.

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[Pygoscelis]

I understand if you was asked to remove your veil for security purposes but they shouldn't ban our human right to dress in whichever manner we choose!

I agree completely, the ONLY legitimate legal concern we should have and the ONLY grounds we should have for restrictions on the burqa/niqab is that of security. If security is not a legitimate reasonable issue, then there should be no question. There may be instances of women being forced to cover up, but covering up is not in itself about controlling or dominating women, as I so often hear people argue. One day hanging out with a modern muslim woman will absolve people of that notion.

I feel the same way about nudity. The only legitimate legal concern we should have and the only grounds we should have for restrictions on nudity is that of sanitation. If there are no sanitary concerns, then there should be no question. There may be instances of nudity being exploited sexually, but nudity is not in itself about sex or exploitation, as I so often hear people argue. One day of hanging around with a nudist will absolve people of that notion.

Personal moral and social norm concerns can apply to both burqas and nudity, but those should not dictate law.

[strivingobserver98]

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On all journeys, the rider and pillion passenger on a motorcycle, scooter or moped MUST wear a protective helmet. This does not apply to a follower of the Sikh religion while wearing a turban.

Interesting that sikhs can use their turban as their motorcycle helmet? :omg: Yes it's true, they can use it on religious purposes. Why does something like that get approved?

Simply because they stood up for it on religious grounds. So :ia: if we stand up for niqab, the ban won't be passed through.

[Muaz bin Jabal]

helmet...lol

[Karl]

I agree completely, the ONLY legitimate legal concern we should have and the ONLY grounds we should have for restrictions on the burqa/niqab is that of security. If security is not a legitimate reasonable issue, then there should be no question. There may be instances of women being forced to cover up, but covering up is not in itself about controlling or dominating women, as I so often hear people argue. One day hanging out with a modern muslim woman will absolve people of that notion.

I feel the same way about nudity. The only legitimate legal concern we should have and the only grounds we should have for restrictions on nudity is that of sanitation. If there are no sanitary concerns, then there should be no question. There may be instances of nudity being exploited sexually, but nudity is not in itself about sex or exploitation, as I so often hear people argue. One day of hanging around with a nudist will absolve people of that notion.

Personal moral and social norm concerns can apply to both burqas and nudity, but those should not dictate law.

How could anyone be nude in Canada? Wouldn't the frostbite take away your manhood?+o(

[Aaqib]

What the??
So women can get naked with their bikinis on the beach, but Muslim Women aren't allowed to have a Niqab/Burqa??
That's ridiculous!

[M.I.A.]

Visit non Islamic board... Every other thread is about how the west and European countries pander to Muslims, immigrants and refugees.

Visit Islamic board.. Every other thread is about injustice and persecution of Muslims in the west.

It's an insane situation but one that exists on the internet..

The world is what you make it, who you follow and how you answer the situation.

I have faith in women kind to show resourcefulness if the worst happens..

Or not.

[Karl]

What the??
So women can get naked with their bikinis on the beach, but Muslim Women aren't allowed to have a Niqab/Burqa??
That's ridiculous!

It's about "Big Brother" wants to identify you and track you. The face recognition technology is befuddled if you wear sun glasses and a baseball cap or anything else that obscures your face like a hood, niqab or burqa etc. Personally I believe it is just a blatant attack on the culture of Islam and very low picking on females.
Appealing to the Queen may be a good idea. She likes to wear veils from time to time and she might set the rabble right. At the end of the day Britain is not a Muslim nation, so Muslims can expect to be persecuted just like the Palestinians in Israel.

[M.I.A.]

It does not matter if its a non Muslim country, the freedom afforded to all colures, races and religions within it.. Is something that isn't often emulated.

It's not perfect but neither are some or all entirely Islamic or Muslim countries.

Take for instance the Saudis, Pakistan, parts of Africa, Libya, Tunisia, Egypt, Iraq, syria and quiet recently...

Malaisia.. Where the rohingya Muslim refugees have not exactly met with an exemplary Muslim response.

The truth of the matter is that governments take action to safeguard there own people, to do anything other is to appear foolish..

And why should they even afford you the respect you desire if you would not tolerate them given the upper hand?

I have no idea how my post relates to the thread..

But there are no walls separating the people in Britain just yet.

[Snel]

This is not the first time laws are considered because of some silly reasons or isolated incidents.

[youngmuslim00]

This is why we need to Muslims in politics.

[sister herb]

This is why we need to Muslims in politics.

Thats good idea but then there are imams whose say that voting in the elections is "shirk" and then muslim politicians don´t get enough votes. Same they said when there were general election in the UK at the last time.

(I`m not from there but some my friends are.)

[ardianto]

In Indonesia you can easily find hijabi sisters wear dust mask that cover their faces like this. Then what is difference between dust mask and niqab?. ..... The people's impression toward the woman who wear it.

Maybe not everyone aware that the cause that make some country want to ban niqab is not just because niqab considered as security threat because it hide the face, but mainly because niqab is considered as symbol of extremism. Not every niqabi is extremist, of course. But in fact, extremist Muslim women usualy wear niqab. This is why niqab is seen as sign of extremism.

Actually, the purpose of some countries in banning niqab is to prevent extremism. They hope, if a Muslim woman does not wear niqab, then she would become moderate and far from extremism.

[sister herb]

^^ I saw before a video about French muslim woman who used similar. She said that because she can´t use niqab, she use the mask and tell others that the reason is to protect her from influenza virus. Can laws deny right from people to protect themselves from possibly deadly viruses?

[Abz2000]

Britain should ban kufr which is the root to shamefulness, greed and insecurity - it should positively promote the niqab which is often an essential item of modesty - especially in a society which is steadily being pushed to perversity and drawing the wrath of Allah upon itself.

[Scimitar]

Two Words:

BEANY HATS

They cover hair. We got curveballs :) we're just not looking.

Scimi