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Abdus Sattar
04-23-2016, 11:01 AM
Assalamualaikum.

I have been searching for any database which contains the Quranic verses in the revelation order. My google search only brings up surahs by revelation order, which is not what I'm looking for. If anyone knows this, please let me know.

Jazakallah.
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strivingobserver98
04-23-2016, 06:30 PM
:wa:

Not sure what you mean by verse order.

Find the full table here: http://www.missionislam.com/quran/revealationorder.htm

Muslim scholars agree that the order of the verses in every chapter was done or commanded by the Prophet (saws) himself following the commands of Almighty Allah.

The Prophet (saws) once told his Companions after he had received a certain revelation that the arch-angel Gabriel had specified for him the particular order of verses (Ahmad).

There are also many incidents narrated in the books of Sunnah regarding the Prophet's (saws) recitation during prayer. The Companions used to pray every day behind the Prophet (saws) and he used to recite the Qur'an in the order given to him by Allah, and they used to learn and memorize from his recitation.

There have never been any incident in which any of the Companions reciting in any order that violated the order of the verses showed to us by the Prophet (saws).
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Yahya.
04-23-2016, 06:46 PM
There are different opinions on the revelation order, there isn't a list agreed upon.
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Abdus Sattar
04-25-2016, 12:25 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by farhan
:wa:

Not sure what you mean by verse order.

Find the full table here:
Um I didn't say verse order, I said revelation order, as in a list starting with the first five verses of surah alaq, and ending with the third verse of surah maidah.
format_quote Originally Posted by YahyaIbnSelam
There are different opinions on the revelation order, there isn't a list agreed upon.
Hmm okay, that explains it. There are even parts of verses that were revealed at different occasions iirc.
Basically I was doing a study regarding the contexts of various Surahs of the Qur'an, correlating with the seerah meanwhile. I guess I'll have to come up with a rudimentary list myself.
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Yahya.
04-25-2016, 01:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Abdus Sattar
Hmm okay, that explains it. There are even parts of verses that were revealed at different occasions iirc.
Basically I was doing a study regarding the contexts of various Surahs of the Qur'an, correlating with the seerah meanwhile. I guess I'll have to come up with a rudimentary list myself.
There are lists, but many who differ. I can write some list-names and maybe later also part of a list.


''Uthman-Quran, Bazergan, Muır, Nöldeke, Blachere, Grımme''

These are the turkish names, and each one of these persons (mostly western orientalists) has created an own list. The turkish book took W. Montogomery Watts ''Introduction to the Quran'' as reference, and it says that the book contains each of these lists. Maybe you can find a PDF of this book..

http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Q.../dp/0748605975
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Yahya.
04-30-2016, 09:36 PM







These are the first 6 years, made by the Author of the turkish book, which talked about in my last post, Muhammed Emim Yıldırım. He made this based on his own research, which was to analyze what the companions (ra) learned in Darul Arqam i.e. what these first verses were talking about.

Its in turkish but I think its understandable;
Revelation Order - Order in the Quran (Surah Number) - Name of the Surah - the revealed verse - total revealed verses
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greenhill
05-01-2016, 12:30 AM
Thanks for sharing..

:peace:
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Abdus Sattar
05-11-2016, 10:07 AM
Jazakallahu khairan, this was exactly what I was looking for. :)
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Yahya.
05-14-2016, 09:02 AM
I found anotherr list (not only the first 6 years) : http://quran.mursil.com/chapter-list...files-in-utf-8

I don't know how reliable this is, but you could compare it with others maybe. NOELD. was a western orientalist if I remember right.
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Abdus Sattar
05-17-2016, 05:46 AM
The second list is surahs, the reason I find this unreliable is that it lists, for example surah baqarah as one entity, while different verses were revealed under different circumstances
Jazakallah for sharing
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didi88
01-05-2017, 06:33 PM
Is there a way you can send me the other pages Yahya?
Are the date of the different ayah revealed mention somewhere in the book?
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Yahya.
01-10-2017, 06:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by didi88
Is there a way you can send me the other pages Yahya?
The research covers just the first 6 six years, because the point of this research is to analyze how Allah -through his messenger- taught the companions and on which topics he set the priority, so there are no other pages containing further details.

But I found now that the author also quotes from a book called an-Nazmu'l Fanniyy fi'l Qur'an by Abdu'lmuta'aal as-Sa'di this most well-accepted order:

From the start of prophecy until the hijrah to Habasha:
Alaq, Qalam, Muzammil, Muddathir, Fatiha, Masad, Takwir, A'la, Layl, Fajr, Duha, Sharh, Asr, 'Adiyaat, Kawthar, Takathur, Maa'uun, Kaafiruun, Fil, Falaq, Naas, Ikhlaas

From the hijra to Habasha to the events of Isra and Miraj:
Najm, Abasa, Qadr, Shams, Burooj, Tin, Quraysh, Qaaria, Qiyaamah, Humazah, Mursalaat, Qaaf, Balad, Tariq, Qamar, Saad, A'raaf, Jinn, Yaasiin, Furqan, Faatir, Maryam, Taaha, Waaqiah, Shuaraa, Naml, Qasas

From the events of Isra and Miraj until the hijrah to Yathrib:
Isra, Yunus, Huud, Yuusuf, Hijr, An'aam saaffat luqman saba zumar ghafir fussilat shuura zukhruf duhaan jathiyah ahqaaf dhariyaat ghashiya kahf nahl nuuh ibrahim anbiyaa muminuun sajda tuur mulk haaqqah maarij naba naziat infitar inshiqaaq ruum ankebut mutaffifiin

Like I said before, there are different opinions on the revealence order of the surahs. The order of the verses inside a surah (chapter) is set clearly by Allah, the order of the surahs in general in the Quran are also set by Allah (according to the prevailing opinion among the scholars) but the order of revealence is something not agreed upon and also not subject to wahy (Quran/Sunnah). It's something researched and analyzed by some scholars for its benefit mentioned above.

format_quote Originally Posted by didi88
Are the date of the different ayah revealed mention somewhere in the book?
The year is mentioned. On the top of the page, where you can find the list -the image I had linked above- it says for example: ''Nübüvvetin 1. Yılı''
which means ''The 1st year of prophecy''. The six images I linked contain -following the orde- the verses revealed in the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th year of prophecy.
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Hana66
03-27-2018, 05:45 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Yahya.







These are the first 6 years, made by the Author of the turkish book, which talked about in my last post, Muhammed Emim Yıldırım. He made this based on his own research, which was to analyze what the companions (ra) learned in Darul Arqam i.e. what these first verses were talking about.

Its in turkish but I think its understandable;
Revelation Order - Order in the Quran (Surah Number) - Name of the Surah - the revealed verse - total revealed verses
Pls post rest of the pics. I cant find the revealed verses order. So totally how many times did angel Gibrael bring down the revelations. Any chart that gives 114 is disqualified by me. Since i know only few verses were sent down. Only Umm Al Quran was full but I'm sure the short Surahs too were sent as a Whole.
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Misbah-Abd
03-27-2018, 07:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hana66
Pls post rest of the pics. I cant find the revealed verses order. So totally how many times did angel Gibrael bring down the revelations. Any chart that gives 114 is disqualified by me. Since i know only few verses were sent down. Only Umm Al Quran was full but I'm sure the short Surahs too were sent as a Whole.
If you don't mind me asking, why is this important?
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Hana66
03-27-2018, 08:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
If you don't mind me asking, why is this important?
Part of my research ..
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Misbah-Abd
03-27-2018, 08:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hana66
Part of my research ..
Like one brother said, there is no agreed upon chronological order of when Jibreel came down with revelation. Sure, we know generally what surahs are Meccan or Medinan, but within those surahs are revelations that came down at different times.
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Yahya.
03-28-2018, 05:06 PM
There are no further tables, as the study concentrates on the first six years of the Meccan period, in which the Darul Arqam meetings took place. And through the listing it aims to illustrate on which aspects the divine Islamic dawah has focused in the beginning while establishing the monotheistic ground for the "new" Muslims.

But as you can see, in the forth column packages of verses are separated with a comma.
Then, as you have said for the most past the surahs were not revealed as a whole. There is a narration stating that the Quran was revealed in bits of five verses and that the sahaba were memorizing it in this interval.
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ameersm
09-11-2018, 04:35 AM
Would you have the name of the book. I am trying to select the link but it is not taking me to the site. You also mentioned there are other lists of the revelation order of the verses not the surahs. Could you please let me know which ones those are.

Jazakallah.
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assadvirgo
06-26-2019, 01:40 AM
Hello brother yahya

checking if you can share any latest reference or information you have, since the thread is almost 3 years old.
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JamilaHossain
05-03-2021, 11:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hana66
Pls post rest of the pics. I cant find the revealed verses order. So totally how many times did angel Gibrael bring down the revelations. Any chart that gives 114 is disqualified by me. Since i know only few verses were sent down. Only Umm Al Quran was full but I'm sure the short Surahs too were sent as a Whole.
I don't understand why this should be and issue and 114 are not the times jibreel a.s. was sent down, this Is the number of the Surahs.
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saraaa
06-27-2021, 11:49 AM
thank you so much for this Yahya. May Allah bless you with all the knowledge





format_quote Originally Posted by Yahya.







These are the first 6 years, made by the Author of the turkish book, which talked about in my last post, Muhammed Emim Yıldırım. He made this based on his own research, which was to analyze what the companions (ra) learned in Darul Arqam i.e. what these first verses were talking about.

Its in turkish but I think its understandable;
Revelation Order - Order in the Quran (Surah Number) - Name of the Surah - the revealed verse - total revealed verses
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