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_E_3
05-17-2016, 09:08 AM
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Dear brothers and sisters
I have noticed that some Muslim women wear modest clothes like the face veil all covered
or Muslim women wearing jeans
i want to be sure in what i am wearing
i have mostly been wearing trousers like jogging bottoms and a dress on top with jumper and my hajab
i dont have much money i have some clothes but there not appropriate i need hajbs as i only have 3
I wonder what should be the right way
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noraina
05-17-2016, 12:32 PM
Assalamu alaykum

Sis, the conditions for a woman's hijab is that everything is covered except for the face, hands and feet. The clothing shouldn't transparent, it should hang loosely so it doesn't show your figure, and mustn't be too attention-drawing. Anything which falls into this category comes under hijab and is the 'right way'.

If you are short on money, then dress as modestly as you can according to your means. As far as I know, to wear loose trousers with a long jumper or shirt (preferably knee length), would be meeting the conditions of hijab and sounds just fine inshaAllah. In future you could always start wearing skirts or abayas if you wanted.

The niqab is a different issue altogether, but it is not compulsory - unless the woman feels like she must wear it, so don't worry about that for now. :)

May Allah swt reward you for your efforts for Islam and make things easy for you. Ameen.
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muslimah_B
05-17-2016, 05:45 PM
Sis where are you based
I could give you some abayas and hijabs or even send you some if the price isnt too high
What is your budget there are some good price places to buy hijabs and abayas even if your on a budget

As the sister mentioned above clothing should be
Loose not at all figure hugging
Your hijab (scarf - should cover your neck ears and chest area, if you have a bigger chest area try getting extra large scarves so they are coverd insha Allah)
It should not be flashy or very bright colours to draw attention
It should not be see-thru or transparent to show your skin colour or the shape

As to wearing trousers- some say its allowed as long as it is baggy and doesnt and show your shape but others say it is not allowed due to the hadeeth of imitating men

https://islamqa.info/en/60131

Niqab will always be a debatable issue some say its fard, others say it isnt
I PERSONALLY believe it to be a fard as we are commanded to cover our beauty and part of a womens face is her beauty, and due to hadeeths of the mothers of believers wearing niqab and some translations of the Quran
(But I would never force anyone to have my views)
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EgyptPrincess
05-17-2016, 05:54 PM
I think this is very reasonable and very pretty :)

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muslimah_B
05-17-2016, 05:59 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by EgyptPrincess
I think this is very reasonable and very pretty :)

Sis Its pretty
but its not hijab sis not even in the slightest lol
Heres why
Her hijab isnt covering her chest, shes wearing high heels, part of her arms are out, shes wearing jeans and on top of that theyre tight and showing the shape of her legs
(I honestly dont mean to knock any sisters who may dress like this who are finding hijab hard, but this isnt the correct way, you would never pray dressed like that)
How you would cover for Allah to pray should be how you go outside
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EgyptPrincess
05-17-2016, 05:59 PM
double post
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sister herb
05-17-2016, 06:02 PM
^ I think many members will soon comment that picture sayings it´s not very Islamically dressed at all. :facepalm:
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muslimah_B
05-17-2016, 06:03 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
^ I think many members will soon comment that picture sayings it´s not very Islamically dressed at all. :facepalm:
Haha i already did in the most nicest way i can [emoji4]
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BeTheChange
05-17-2016, 06:09 PM
Walaikumasalaam,

I know this is a very long read but insha Allah after you read the below article it will help you decide what we can & cannot wear insha Allah.

The above picture does not follow the conditions of the hijaab. Please have a read of the below and you will understand why.

Praise be to Allaah.Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

The conditions of hijaab:

Firstly:

(It should cover all the body apart from whatever has been exempted).

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.”
This aayah clearly states that it is obligatory to cover all of a woman’s beauty and adornments and not to display any part of that before non-mahram men (“strangers”) except for whatever appears unintentionally, in which case there will be no sin on them if they hasten to cover it up.

Al-Haafiz ibn Katheer said in his Tafseer:

This means that they should not display any part of their adornment to non-mahrams, apart from that which it is impossible to conceal. Ibn Mas’ood said: such as the cloak and robe, i.e., what the women of the Arabs used to wear, an outer garment which covered whatever the woman was wearing, except for whatever appeared from beneath the outer garment. There is no sin on a woman with regard to this because it is impossible to conceal it.

Secondly

(it should not be an adornment in and of itself).


Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“… and not to show off their adornment…” [al-Noor 24:31]. The general meaning of this phrase includes the outer garment, because if it is decorated it will attract men’s attention to her. This is supported by the aayah in Soorat al-Ahzaab (interpretation of the meaning):

“And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance” [al-Ahzaab 33:33]. It is also supported by the hadeeth in which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There are three, do not ask me about them: a man who leaves the jamaa’ah, disobeys his leader and dies disobedient; a female or male slave who runs away then dies; and a woman whose husband is absent and left her with everything she needs, and after he left she made a wanton display of herself. Do not ask about them.”
(Narrated by al-Haakim, 1/119; Ahmad, 6/19; from the hadeeth of Faddaalah bint ‘Ubayd. Its isnaad is saheeh and it is in al-Adab al-Mufrad).

Thirdly:

(It should be thick and not transparent or “see-thru”)


- because it cannot cover properly otherwise. Transparent or see-thru clothing makes a woman more tempting and beautiful. Concerning this the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “During the last days of my ummah there will be women who are clothed but naked, with something on their heads like the humps of camels. Curse them, for they are cursed.” Another hadeeth adds: “They will not enter Paradise or even smell its fragrance, although its fragrance can be detected from such and such a distance.”

(Narrated by Muslim from the report of Abu Hurayrah).

Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said: what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) meant was women who wear clothes made of light fabric which describes and does not cover. They are clothed in name but naked in reality.

Transmitted by al-Suyooti in Tanweer al-Hawaalik, 3/103.

Fourthly:
(It should be loose, not tight so that it describes any part of the body)
.

The purpose of clothing is to prevent fitnah (temptation), and this can only be achieved if clothes are wide and loose. Tight clothes, even if they conceal the colour of the skin, still describe the size and shape of the body or part of it, and create a vivid image in the minds of men. The corruption or invitation to corruption that is inherent in that is quite obvious. So the clothes must be wide. Usaamah ibn Zayd said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave me a thick Egyptian garment that was one of the gifts given to him by Duhyat al-Kalbi, and I gave it to my wife to wear. He said, ‘Why do I not see you wearing that Egyptian garment?’ I said, ‘I gave it to my wife to wear.’ He said, ‘Tell her to wear a gown underneath it, for I am afraid that it may describe the size of her bones.’” (Narrated by al-Diyaa’ al-Maqdisi in al-Ahaadeeth al-Mukhtaarah, 1/442, and by Ahmad and al-Bayhaqi, with a hasan isnaad).

Fifthly:

(It should not be perfumed with bakhoor or fragrance)

There are many ahaadeeth which forbid women to wear perfume when they go out of their houses. We will quote here some of those which have saheeh isnaads:
Abu Moosa al-Ash’ari said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who puts on perfume then passes by people so that they can smell her fragrance, is an adulteress.”

Zaynab al-Thaqafiyyah reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If any one of you (women) goes out to the mosque, let her not touch any perfume.”
Abu Hurayrah said: the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who has scented herself with bakhoor (incense), let her not attend ‘Ishaa’ prayers with us.”

Moosa ibn Yassaar said that a woman passed by Abu Hurayrah and her scent was overpowering. He said, “O female slave of al-Jabbaar, are you going to the mosque?” She said, “Yes,” He said, “And have you put on perfume because of that?” She said, “Yes.” He said, “Go back and wash yourself, for I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘If a woman comes out to the mosque and her fragrance is overpowering, Allaah will not accept any prayer from her until she goes home and washes herself.’”
These ahaadeeth are general in implication. Just as the prohibition covers perfume applied to the body, it also covers perfume applied to the clothes, especially in the third hadeeth, where bakhoor (incense) is mentioned, because incense is used specifically to perfume the clothes.

The reason for this prohibition is quite clear, which is that women’s fragrance may cause undue provocation of desires. The scholars also included other things under this heading of things to be avoided by women who want to go to the mosque, such as beautiful clothes, jewellery that can be seen, excessive adornments and mingling with men. See Fath al-Baari, 2/279.
Ibn Daqeeq al-‘Eed said:

This indicates that it is forbidden for a woman who wants to go to the mosque to wear perfume, because this causes provocation of men’s desires. This was reported by al-Manaawi in Fayd al-Qadeer, in the commentary on the first hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah quoted above.

Sixthly:

(It should not resemble the clothing of men)


It was reported in the saheeh ahaadeeth that a woman who imitates men in dress or in other ways is cursed. There follow some of the ahaadeeth that we know:
Abu Hurayrah said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed the man who wears women’s clothes, and the woman who wears men’s clothes.”
‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: ‘They are not part of us, the women who imitate men and the men who imitate women.’”

Ibn ‘Abbaas said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed effeminate men and masculine women. He said, ‘Throw them out of your houses.’” He said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) expelled So and so, and ‘Umar expelled So and so.” According to another version: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed men who imitate women and women who imitate men.”

‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There are three who will not enter Paradise and Allaah will not even look at them on the Day of Resurrection: one who disobeys his parents, a woman who imitates men, and the duyooth (cuckold, weak man who feels no jealousy over his womenfolk).”
Ibn Abi Maleekah – whose name was ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Ubayd-Allaah – said: “It was said to ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her), ‘What if a woman wears (men’s) sandals?’ She said: ‘The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) cursed women who act like men.’”
These ahaadeeth clearly indicate that it is forbidden for women to imitate men and vice versa, This usually includes dress and other matters, apart from the first hadeeth quoted above, which refers to dress only.

Abu Dawood said, in Masaa’il al-Imaam Ahmad (p. 261): “I heard Ahmad being asked about a man who dresses his slave woman in a tunic. He said, ‘Do not clothe her in men’s garments, do not make her look like a man.” Abu Dawood said: “I said to Ahmad, Can he give her bachelor sandals to wear? He said, No, unless she wears them to do wudoo’. I said, What about for beauty? He said, No. I said, Can he cut her hair short? He said, No.”

Seventhly:

(It should not resemble the dress of kaafir women).


It is stated in sharee’ah that Muslims, men and women alike, should not resemble or imitate the kuffaar with regard to worship, festivals or clothing that is specific to them. This is an important Islamic principle which nowadays, unfortunately, is neglected by many Muslims, even those who care about religion and calling others to Islam. This is due either to ignorance of their religion, or because they are following their own whims and desires, or because of deviation, combined with modern customs and imitation of kaafir Europe. This was one of the causes of the Muslims’ decline and weakness, which enabled the foreigners to overwhelm and colonize them. “…Verily, Allaah will not change the condition of a people as long as they do not change their state themselves …” [al-Ra’d 13:11 – interpretation of the meaning]. If only they knew.
It should be known that there is a great deal of saheeh evidence for these important rules in the Qur’aan and Sunnah, and that the evidence in the Qur’aan is elaborated upon in the Sunnah, as is always the case.

Eighthly:

(It should not be a garment of fame and vanity).


Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Whoever wears a garment of fame and vanity in this world, Allaah will clothe him in a garment of humiliation on the Day of Resurrection, then He will cause Fire to flame up around him.’”
(Hijaab al-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, p. 54-67).

And Allaah knows best.

Source: https://islamqa.info/en/6991
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EgyptPrincess
05-17-2016, 06:20 PM
@BeTheChange thanks for the detailed post.

So am I actually going against the word of Allah by dressing like the girl in that image because that is how I dress most of the time. Occasionally I'll wear a full abaya but I love jeans :cry: my father actually doesn't mind if I dress like this so it's never been a problem for me.
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BeTheChange
05-17-2016, 06:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by EgyptPrincess
@BeTheChange thanks for the detailed post.

So am I actually going against the word of Allah by dressing like the girl in that image because that is how I dress most of the time. Occasionally I'll wear a full abaya but I love jeans :cry: my father actually doesn't mind if I dress like this so it's never been a problem for me.
Asalamualykum my dear sister,


I think what we need to remember is we have been honoured and blessed with Islam and we have to dress according to what Islam has commanded and not our parents. Subhana Allah. What a real blessing. Allah swt has favoured us and guided us with the truth Subhana Allah.


Whilst our parents may agree with what we do it does not necessary mean we are following Islam as we should. This is why it is faraz upon us all to learn about our deen because we can all be misled and we can all deviate from the truth.


If you look closely at the image posted you can see the clothes are:


1) Transparent,
2) Can be perceived as attracting attention,
3) The Jeans are very tight
4) Am not sure if the sister is wearing perfume but we must try our very best not to wear perfume as it can grab unnecessary attention,
5) If you really want to be safe it's best to avoid jeans as it can even be argued jeans were traditionally for men.
6) You can easily see the clothes imitate the non-Muslims,
7) And only Allah swt knows if the wearer wears a certain type of clothing for vanity or fame reasons.

It is permissible to wear what you want in your own home as long as there are no ghayr-mehram's (people you can marry) present.

Generally speaking what we are advised as Muslims is to dress like Queens in our own home and not to make too much of an effort if we are going outside.

I know this is the opposite of reality but that's generally what we should aim for.

Am not sure if the jeans you wear are tight sis but if they are please reconsider and 'tone' it down to baggy jeans and wear a long cardigan or something to cover yourself insha Allah.

If you like your fashion then don't let it compromise your deen sis. It really isn't worth it.

Remember the shaytaan doesn't ask us to leave Islam in one go because he knows we just won't. He attacks us in small matters and before we know it we've lost our deen. Subhana Allah. A frightening thought! May Allah swt help us to protect our emaan in the 'small' matters. Ameen.

Hope this helps.

May Allah swt help you get close to HIM Ameen.
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muslimah_B
05-17-2016, 07:05 PM
in sha Allah you can wear your jeans on underneath your abaya or overhead jilbab
it does take a while to get used to, but believe me when your covering you feel so beautiful inside, and you feel empowered as a woman, you'd never go outside without covering
there are some "nicer" abayas out there that have nice small feminine touches to them... in sha Allah try and find some you like then slowly build from there to the more plainer ones

its just realising as soon as you step outside that the proper hijab must be adhered to as it is fard upon us as women Allah has risen our status so high thus gives us hijab to protect ourselves from the looks of men, and even evil eye and envious eyes. we are pearls and pearls are protected in their shells, our shells is our hijab and we should be so honoured, as hijab is so beautiful :statisfie
to make it easier, remind yourself of what hijab is, why hijab is fard upon us, then in sha Allah you will realise how beautiful is it and how beautiful you will feel when you adhere to it

when your inside you can wear whatever you want, adorn yourself with perfume, make up, jewlry whatever you please
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_E_3
05-17-2016, 07:10 PM
Thank you sisters for your replies and your help
i understand now what the hijab is
may Allah bless you all
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EgyptPrincess
05-17-2016, 07:16 PM
I don't wear SUPER tight jeans but baggy jeans make me feel like a tom-boy :hmm:

I do cover my bottom though... The garment will cover that area. I really don't wear clothing to please anyone other than myself but Inshallah I'll try to change out my wardrobe a little. When I go to uni it will be the biggest test for me because I'm not sure how many other Muslims will be there and if the muslimahs dress in full dress...

Thanks again sis x
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BeTheChange
05-17-2016, 07:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by EgyptPrincess
I don't wear SUPER tight jeans but baggy jeans make me feel like a tom-boy :hmm:

I do cover my bottom though... The garment will cover that area. I really don't wear clothing to please anyone other than myself but Inshallah I'll try to change out my wardrobe a little. When I go to uni it will be the biggest test for me because I'm not sure how many other Muslims will be there and if the muslimahs dress in full dress...

Thanks again sis x
Asalamualykum sis,

Jazahka Allah for taking the advice on board. May Allah swt help us all take advice that benefit us in the long term Ameen.

You see even if they are slightly tight it doesn't fulfil the commandments of the hijaab and if baggy jeans isn't you then choose something else which fulfils all the requirements and reflects you as a person insha Allah.

I think this is probably a common fear many people will have.

As humans we all want to be accepted by people but our main purpose should always be trying to please Allah swt.

Whilst i was studying i wore the full abayaa and many other sisters wore the full abaayaa too. Some sisters even wore the niqaab whilst in lectures. Subhana Allah.

Whatever we do we shouldn't comprise our deen and if the activity does limit/restrict/compromise our deen then we should just walk away if we can.

Alhamdulilah we are in the UK where we can choose to practice our religion freely. Our Muslim sisters in France aren't even allowed to wear the hijaab in a professional setting i.e. in schools, hospitals, universities, workplace etc.

May Allah swt help us make wise decisions Ameen.
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s.ali123
05-17-2016, 09:46 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by EgyptPrincess
I don't wear SUPER tight jeans but baggy jeans make me feel like a tom-boy :hmm:

I do cover my bottom though... The garment will cover that area. I really don't wear clothing to please anyone other than myself but Inshallah I'll try to change out my wardrobe a little. When I go to uni it will be the biggest test for me because I'm not sure how many other Muslims will be there and if the muslimahs dress in full dress...

Thanks again sis x
May Allah help you egypt sis :) Good to see that you are learning a lot. May Allah give you blessing of action as well :)
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Marina-Aisha
05-17-2016, 10:56 PM
I think ever the kimar scarf and Abaya is best way to dress or jilbab. I I know people may stare at first but there loose and they don't draw attention they cover the best. I use wear hijab with jeans but Ive been listening alot lectures online it's not hijab. Allah says we should be dressing naked and being in tight covers even if covered with clothes but have shown the appearache of nakesness is haram. Anyways good luck
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_E_3
05-18-2016, 09:01 PM
Am going to the mosque on Friday my husband is taking me there going away then coming back to get me after
unsure what am wearing hopefully i look ok for it
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s.ali123
05-18-2016, 09:02 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by _E_
Am going to the mosque on Friday my husband is taking me there going away then coming back to get me after
unsure what am wearing hopefully i look ok for it
May Allah help you :)
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ConcealedGem
05-18-2016, 09:11 PM
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may Allah bless you sis, I hope you've got the answers you wanted, most of the things I wanted to say have already been said by the sisters above, I'm so glad you asked such a question and I hope it benefits others in Sha Allah.
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