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~ Sabr ~
06-02-2016, 04:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
Elaborate?
Niqaab is NOT compulsory in Islam, no matter what school of thought you follow. Maybe before, when Islam wasn't widespread as a "terrorist religion" and there were no security threats, it was ok to wear it.

Nowadays, men travel around in burkas and Niqaabs, under the "name of Islam as suicide bombers." There is danger everywhere in the name of the religion of Islam - So better to stick to the FARDH acts of Islam which is ONLY Hijaab - nothing else.
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*charisma*
06-02-2016, 05:09 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~ Sabr ~
Niqaab is NOT compulsory in Islam, no matter what school of thought you follow. Maybe before, when Islam wasn't widespread as a "terrorist religion" and there were no security threats, it was ok to wear it.

Nowadays, men travel around in burkas and Niqaabs, under the "name of Islam as suicide bombers." There is danger everywhere in the name of the religion of Islam - So better to stick to the FARDH acts of Islam which is ONLY Hijaab - nothing else.
Please provide sources for your claims.

Suicide bombers come in all shapes and sizes, covered and uncovered. Whoever wishes to do harm will do it regardless of what he is wearing. A woman is allowed to lift her veil in regards to security checks, so that's not an issue. Just because OTHERS label Islam as a terrorist religion, doesn't mean it is or that we will cave in and change ourselves just because of what others are saying. To label the niqaab "extreme" is extreme in itself. Some people do not want to live life by the bare minimum when they know they can do more for the sake of Allah. Also we are living in countries that allow us to practice our religion freely, so to not take advantage because of prejudice and racist movements, is silly.
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strivingobserver98
06-02-2016, 05:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~ Sabr ~
There is no need to be extreme in Islam.
So what is an extreme practice in the context of the Shariáh?

My understanding is that extremism is when you go to extremes in one recommended act to the extent that you neglect other religious obligations. For example, if one fasts forty consecutive days without iftâr, one becomes so weak that one cannot even perform his daily prayers. Or when a man prays voluntary prayers all day and does not go to work to support his family, he is neglecting his religious obligation in order to do something that is not an obligation. This is how I define an extreme practice. Now, when it comes to the issue of the niqab, there are different scenarios:

If I follow the opinion that covering the face is obligatory (fard), I must cover my face – except when covering the face will lead to a greater harm such as harassment or persecution.

If I follow the opinion that covering the face is not obligatory, I should ask myself the following question: Will wearing the niqab prevent me from fulfilling my religious obligations?
If no, it is better to wear the niqab.
If ‘yes’, it is better not to wear the niqab.
I know that many sisters (especially those living in the West) will answer ‘yes’ to the question; not only because the niqab can act as an impediment to da’wah, but also because wearing it can lead to persecution. Even some of the scholars who consider the niqab to be obligatory, have said that women can choose not to wear the niqab in the West.

The situation in the Islamic world varies from region to region. In some countries, such as Saudi Arabia, the majority of women cover their faces and the niqab is very much accepted in the society. There are many women-only schools, colleges, universities, offices and even restaurants; women can easily remove their veils in these areas. Therefore, it is easier to wear the veil in Saudi Arabia. In many other Muslim countries, the niqab is less common but it is still accepted in the society and women who wear the veil do not face much difficulty. In some other Muslim countries, the niqab is banned and women are not allowed to wear the niqab to school or university. It was like this in Turkey and Tunisia; I’m not sure if this situation has changed or not.

All in all, I think this decision depends on our attitude and also on our situation. Sometimes, by wearing the niqab, we can be better Muslimahs. Sometimes, by not wearing the niqab, we can be a better Muslimah. What is important is to serve Allah and the Islamic community. Allah does not expect us to do what we are not able to do. Allah wants from us a pure intention and a sincere effort: an intention to serve and love Allah in the best manner possible. Insha’ Allah.
https://beautyofmodesty.wordpress.co...niqab-extreme/
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ardianto
06-02-2016, 05:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~ Sabr ~
Nowadays, men travel around in burkas and Niqaabs, under the "name of Islam as suicide bombers.
Suicide bombers do not want to attract attention. That's why they always dress like other people when they are in action. Indeed, few suicide bombing cases committed by women with abaya. But that's happened only in place where wearing abaya is common, like in Iraq. While suicide bombers in the West always dressed like Westerner. If suicide bomber in the West wear abaya, then he/she would be failed because he/she attract attention.
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~ Sabr ~
06-02-2016, 09:32 PM
I would appreciate if you didn't start threads in my name without telling me first @Aisha .

Thank you . :-\
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Aisha
06-02-2016, 10:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ~ Sabr ~
I would appreciate if you didn't start threads in my name without telling me first @Aisha.

Thank you . :-\
Yours happened to be the first moved post from the other thread so it automatically made you the thread starter. :)
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'Abd-al Latif
06-02-2016, 10:38 PM
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I'm going to close this thread for the following reasons.

Firstly, whether the niqaab is obligatory or not is subject to discussion between the ulama. Some scholars say it's obligatory and cite a number of evidences to prove their case. The fact that the wives of the Prophet (:saws1:) wore niqab as well as the ayaat and ahadeeth that allude to the niqab serves, in their eyes, as sufficient evidence that niqab is obligatory. A number of notable scholars are firmly of this view.

A great number of scholars are also of the view that niqab is not obligatory but stress that niqab is a highly recommended and rewarding act if done for the sake of Allah. These scholars are of the view that women are allowed to expose their face (excluding the hair and neck) and hands only. One of the most famous scholars of our time who said this is Shaykh Naasir uddeen Al-Albaani.

The fact of the matter is that whichever view you take it cannot be denied that the niqab is a part of Islam and at the very least its status in Islam is a highly recommended act. If some dodgy men decide to wear niqab for the wrong sort of acts it doesn't detract the status of the niqab in Islam, nor does it detract the reward of those women who wear it for the pleasure of Allah.

Secondly, you cannot make a judgement on Muslim women if they choose to wear the niqab. No one is obliged to listen to a particular viewpoint unless it is accompanied by the dictates of the Qur'an and Sunnah.

Finally, this thread is quite loaded and confrontational and for this reason I am closing it. If anyone is still interested in discussing this topic then please use the search feature to look up previous discussions on the niqab. There are plenty. In the future please do not direct your threads to a particular person.

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