format_quote Originally Posted by
Mustafa16
I think people are over generalizing the way Americans conduct themselves in war....and people ignore that it is illegal in the American military to rape civilians, or kill civilians knowingly, and the people that do such things get punished, generally... .
You say sweeping generalizations because you are ignorant of widespread rape culture of america and its military. Not only do they rape the local women of which ever country they invade, they also rape their own within their own camp.
Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, has refused to take the fall by herself and has implicated the CIA, Military Intelligence and private US government contractors in the torturing of POW's and in the raping of Iraqi women detainees as well.”
A month before the alleged abuses and rapes occurred, she said, a team of CIA, Military Intelligence officers and private consultants under the employ of the US government came to Abu Ghraib. "Their main and specific mission was to give the interrogators new techniques to get more information from detainees," she said.
The London newspaper further noted “graphic nature of some of the images may explain the US President Obama’s attempts to block the release of an estimated 2,000 photographs from prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan despite an earlier promise to allow them to be published.”
It is now known, Cienfuegos wrote in May 2004, that hundreds of these photographs had been in circulation among the troops in Iraq.
The graphic photos were being swapped between the soldiers like baseball cards.
"The nudity technique used by the Americans against Iraqi detainees is a long time Israeli favorite but unfortunately pictures never surfaced to expose the barbarism and brutality of a country bragging about being an oasis of democracy." - Palestinian detainee
here, do some reading and see how much of generalization this is:
U.S. soldiers raping all over the world
http://forum.netmuslims.com/showthre...ll=1#post59184
Rape Rampant in US Military
http://forum.netmuslims.com/showthre...in-US-Military
US forces rape women in northern Afghanistan village
http://forum.netmuslims.com/showthre...ll=1#post64236
Afghan girl raped, killed by US troops
http://forum.netmuslims.com/showthre...ll=1#post60304
Hundreds of Graphic rape photos Obama refuses to release
http://www.lipstickalley.com/showthr...baseball-cards
everybody here needs to see that last link above and then tell me who do you shed tears for more
@
islamirama those men who carried out the mahmoudiyya killings and rape were sentenced to life in prison...
Because he got caught. He and his buddies said terrorists were hiding in the house that's why they did it. Had the neighbors who were aware not contacted other authorities and demanded justice, no one would have known. How many others like him who were not caught or reported? .
In March 2006 four US soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division gang raped a 14 year old Iraqi girl and murdered her and her family —including a 5 year old child. An additional soldier was involved in the cover-up.
One of the killers, Steven Green, was found guilty on May 07, 2009 in the US District Court of Paducah and is now awaiting sentencing.The leaked Public Affairs Guidance put the 101st media team into a "passive posture" — withholding information where possible. It conceals presence of both child victims, and describes the rape victim, who had just turned 14, as "a young woman".
The US Army's Criminal Investigation Division did not begin its investigation until three and a half months after the crime, news reports at that time commented.This is not the only grim picture coming out of Iraq U.S. forces being accused of using rape as a war weapon.
format_quote Originally Posted by
sister herb
We should recognize what is the real enemy and I think it is the war itself.
Do you live in some fairy land or something?
war will not be held accountable on Judgement day, it will not be punished in the hell fire. PEOPLE will be the fuel for the hellfire for the atrocities they commit against others.
I don't know about your kind, but here is the ummah's enemy.
format_quote Originally Posted by
sister herb
Well, can you forgive to him? The answer weights your humanity.
Islam give me the right to take his life, that is islamic justice. You can daydream about your humanity all you like.
and can you forgive your rapist? talk is cheap if you haven't been there.
And it´s not some blah blah or old nonsense. It´s following the Prothet´s Sunnah, to which is based of our religion. So be careful what you call as "blah blah". ;D
That is blah blah non sense, not the sunnah. That is the crap whipped muslims and kuffar sympathizers pass around.
Now, if someone hurted the Prophet himself, what did he do?
We already went over this in another thread.
IF someone harmed him personally, he forgave them. If they harmed his ummah, he would go to war with them.
What do you people do when the kuffar goes to war with his ummah? shed tears for them?
He had a kuffar assassinated for writing lewd poetry about Muslim women, and you sympathize and shed tears for the kuffar that rapes Muslim women.
Whose side are you really on?
isn't that the definition of hypocrisy?
format_quote Originally Posted by
*charisma*
I wasn't disagreeing with you, but my point is that we can feel emotion and there's no sin in that regardless of what someone deserves, which is what the thread topic regards.
yes, we are talking about emotions. If your head is not on straight then you will feel emotions for the enemy and not the Muslims. We have plenty of kuffar sympathizers these days, some on this forum, who want to feel emotions and sad for the butchers of Muslims and who run around like clowns 'liking' each others sympathizer posts.
When the iraqi, afghan, palestinian, rohynga, kashmiri, somali, yemeni, ask how many tears and emotions were spend over them vs their enemies, let's see what people have to say about that on J-Day. Forget taking up arms and defending the oppressed, forget raising your hands and making dua for them and against their butchers, we can't even feel remorse of their suffering and anger against their aggressors. And Muslims want to see ummah in power and glory ? how about we correct the direction of our emotions first.
And if people want to feel emotions, then they need to educated themselves about the suffering of the ummah. Instead of wasting time watching ptsd videos of the rapists and murderers, why don't we watch videos of their raping and murders?
I like EVERYONE on this forum to read these personal accounts;
Nadia's Story Told Through Her Tears: The Americans Have Raped Me Like This!
http://forum.netmuslims.com/showthre...ll=1#post60098
The Dark and Secret Dungeons of Iraq. Horror Stories of Female Prisoners
http://forum.netmuslims.com/showthre...ll=1#post64434