Status of women in western society...

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Have the women, in the name of freedom, become a toy to play with for the men in western society...?
 
Definitely. Women's bodies are used to sell everything from video games to beer. I love to watch hockey, but unfortunately, even that is plagued with problems. During the commercials, a bunch of beer commercials come on and they often have women dancing. For young men, it's difficult to avoid lust and the beer companies try to capitalize on that. Just a few days ago, I was on Youtube and I saw an ad about "hot latin singles" or something like that; it had a woman in it and she was only wearing a bra. I wasn't watching anything even remotely related to dating or sex, but that ad popped up anyway.

Even when I go to Wal-Mart or a grocery store, at the checkout aisles, there are magazines with barely clothed women on them. It's hard to lower my gaze because I'm being attacked by those images all the time.
 
If a woman is serving the food to her husband only and doesn't go out of her home then husband is fundamentalist and he is depriving the lady of the freedom... But if she is serving the food to passengers as air hostess, it is the freedom of woman...
 
If the woman entertain none but her husband, she is backward but if she entertain to all spectators and players as a cheerleader in T20 cricket matches, she is a modern-age lady
 
If a lady covers her body with niqab, she is backward but if a lady put off her clothes before the people, she is an advanced and progressive lady
 
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How they have changed the social scenario wherein a slu* is considered as the symbol of freedom of woman whereas a lady wearing hijab propagated as the symbol of backwardness. After all it's a men's world
 
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I think many of us have, but its been by our own doing, and many of us don't even realize it. We can get out of this situation just like we got ourselves into it because as we go so does society. only when women figure this out will they have true liberation.
 
azc said:
After all it's a men's world
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I am agree with you on this..And I also agree with the idea that "the symbol of woman" is used as a tool of commerce in many western and other colonised societies. However, I would like to ask that whether you are questioning the status of women in the Muslim societies? Women are regarded in many Muslim societies as second class citizents. They are not given the same rights as men have. What do you think about this?
 
azc said:
If a woman is serving the food to her husband only and doesn't go out of her home then husband is fundamentalist and he is depriving the lady of the freedom...
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Here as an example..A woman can serve food whomsoever she wants and she can go out of her home, she is not caged into her home.
 
anatolian said:
I am agree with you on this..And I also agree with the idea that "the symbol of woman" is used as a tool of commerce in many western and other colonised societies. However, I would like to ask that whether you are questioning the status of women in the Muslim societies? Women are regarded in many Muslim societies as second class citizents. They are not given the same rights as men have. What do you think about this?
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Of Muslim society: it's a different matter though but agree that many Muslim men treat their wives not only as inferior to men but also as slaves. But this treatment is seen mainly in uneducated families. Moreover, a girl child is ,often, deprived of getting education lest she should go astray.
 
azc said:
Let us see what the sisters say on it
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Look at the picture below.

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These Indonesian Muslim women were cooking and serving food for flood victims in public kitchen. If they were caged into their home, not allowed to serving food to other than their husbands, how could they contribute in helping other people like this?.
 
ardianto said:
Look at the picture below.
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These Indonesian Muslim women were cooking and serving food for flood victims in public kitchen. If they were caged into their home, not allowed to serving food to other than their husbands, how could they contribute in helping other people like this?.
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do you compare this good work to the duty of air hostess...?
 
azc said:
do you compare this good work to the duty of air hostess...?
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No, those women work voluntary, while air stewardess are getting paid.

But what's wrong if a woman serve food for public as her job?. In often buy food from female vendor, and I never think is haram if this female vendor serve food for me and other buyers.
 
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No, those women work voluntary, while air stewardess are getting paid. But what's wrong if a woman serve food for public as her job?. In often buy food from female vendor, and I never think is haram if this female vendor serve food for me and other buyers.
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As far as I know these jobs which you allow for a Muslim woman are not allowed in Islam. As a boradminded Muslim you can say that a Muslim woman can do any job wherein she has to interact with non-mahram but from Islamic point of view it's not allowed. Now the question arise if a Muslim girl can do the Job of airhostess or a waitress then what is wrong in earning the big money by entertaining the players and spectators in T20 cricket matches...? And what is wrong in doing commercials for money..? Will you define the demarcation between halal and haram now..?
 
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azc said:
As far as I know these jobs which you allow for a Muslim woman are not allowed in Islam. As a boradminded Muslim you can say that a Muslim woman can do any job wherein she has to interact with non-mahram but from Islamic point of view it's not allowed. Now the question arise if a Muslim girl can do the Job of airhostess or a waitress then what is wrong in earning the big money by entertaining the players and spectators in T20 cricket matches...? And what is wrong in doing commercials for money..? Will you define the demarcation between halal and haram now..?
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Why you think if women allowed to work as waitress, then women allowed to work as cheerleaders too?. Waitress bring food to the visitor table in polite manner, while cheerleaders dance sexily in front of public. These two jobs are totally different.
 
ardianto said:
Why you think if women allowed to work as waitress, then women allowed to work as cheerleaders too?. Waitress bring food to the visitor table in polite manner, while cheerleaders dance sexily in front of public. These two jobs are totally different.
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i don't consider polite or impolite way of selling their services for the money. Crux of the issue is interacting with non mahram. The nagnitutde of sin between the job of waitress and cheerleader is a different thing though. Do you have any dalil from Quran and hadith that a woman can do the job such as of waitress wherein interaction with non mahram is too obvious, is allowed . What is the demarcation of halal and haram job in your opinion, clarify it.
 
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Greetings,

azc said:
Have the women, in the name of freedom, become a toy to play with for the men in western society...?
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What a laughable generalisation. Try saying that to the women in my family and see what sort of response you get.

Peace
 

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