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oneday
01-10-2017, 09:43 AM
بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم
أَبَا عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع يَقُولُ‏ شِرَاءُ الْحِنْطَةِ يَنْفِي الْفَقْرَ وشِرَاءُ الدَّقِيقِ يُنْشِئُ الْفَقْرَ وَ شِرَاءُ الْخُبْزِ مَحْق‏

شِرَاءُ الدَّقِيقِ‏ ذُلٌّ وَ شِرَاءُ الْحِنْطَةِ عِزٌّ وَ شِرَاءُ الْخُبْزِ فَقْر

أَبِي الْحَسَنِ ع قَالَ: مَنِ اشْتَرَى‏ الْحِنْطَةَ زَادَ مَالُهُ وَ مَنِ اشْتَرَى الدَّقِيقَ ذَهَبَ نِصْفُ مَالِهِ وَ مَنِ اشْتَرَى الْخُبْزَ ذَهَبَ مَالُهُ
.




If you can buy Wheat and you cook bread
to buy
Wheat is cause optimize the position of life.

to buy
flourstart of crisis in the life

to Buy
Flour cause to loss half of financial
to buy
bread cause to crisis the life directly

Buy
bread is misery and Poverty








I heard 30% of people cook bread at home.
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Do you use it?
Are you satisfied with it?
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Umm Abed
01-10-2017, 11:50 AM
Its a good investment if you're happy with home-type bread, which is excellent.

Once you're in the habit of making bread it becomes routine.
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sister herb
01-10-2017, 11:55 AM
Never Buying bread is misery and Poverty to bakeries.

But hey, if you have a garden, you can grow your own wheat so no need to buy it.

Anyways, I haven´t bread machine. I have an oven. That´s enough.
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Umm Abed
01-10-2017, 12:23 PM
We're so used to shop bread, whereas home-baked bread is the best, in fact anything home made is tops.
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Zeal
01-10-2017, 12:31 PM
I have never had homemade bread
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oneday
01-10-2017, 12:51 PM
Why buy bread causes of poverty and destitution?

Bread is the staple food for humans
After economically and health and political is strategic

for a strategic and important thing
We must go in main source(To obtain sources)




that is In other matter(strategic)
To be independent
We should not to need intermediaries

causes expensive
And is unsafe and uncertain latest ( health and Security and securing permanent)

If someone just eat Wholemeal bread for a year
He will be protected and not Lack of nutrients
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oneday
01-10-2017, 12:59 PM


Bread is the main food for humans



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oneday
01-10-2017, 01:05 PM
Please if my sentences are grammatical errors
Tell me
I want to learn English
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ardianto
01-10-2017, 01:09 PM
I never heard about bread machine before I saw this thread. Maybe because main food in my place is rice, not bread.

But, if you love to bake your own bread, I think having bread machine is good idea because seem like easier to make bread by bread machine than by oven.

format_quote Originally Posted by oneday


Bread is the main food for humans



People in my place definitely disagree with you. In my place, if people eat bread but haven't eat rice they always feel they haven't eat.

:D
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sister herb
01-10-2017, 01:18 PM
In some countries, like I noticed before in the Middle East for example, people don´t have ovens at homes. They have to buy bread from the bakeries. And to many, the bread machine is still a luxury. They can (and have to) survive without it.

I love homemade bread and bake it sometimes (and cakes too but it´s the other story). The best bread I have ever made is the one what my granddad teached me to bake when I was a kid. He teached how to bake bread on the campfire, with the flat stone. I think it´s the most simple and the oldest way to bake the bread. But oh boy how it´s tasty when you are tired and hungry after playing outside.

:D

And its tasty brings happy memories from the childhood.
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sister herb
01-10-2017, 01:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
In my place, if people eat bread but haven't eat rice they always feel they haven't eat.

:D
Here it´s same with the potatoes.
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Scimitar
01-10-2017, 01:53 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
In some countries, like I noticed before in the Middle East for example, people don´t have ovens at homes. They have to buy bread from the bakeries. And to many, the bread machine is still a luxury. They can (and have to) survive without it.
Bread, was invented in the middle east.

When we say bread, we think this:



But, the reality is, the bread most eaten around the world is flat bread, like naan, roti, chapatti etc. And this is the first bread, made without the use of yeast which causes the bread to rise.

Breads such as the following are the original breads.





are the most commonly consumed breads in the world and do not require a bread machine - just a fire and a flat iron pan or a tandoor oven.

Tava (iron pan)
TAVA 30 MS2 1?1393334426 -

Tandoor oven:



Scimi
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Umm Abed
01-10-2017, 05:08 PM
Was looking for the thread of the rumali roti.
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Umm Abed
01-10-2017, 05:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
Please if my sentences are grammatical errors
Tell me
I want to learn English
Are you perhaps advertising the bread machine??:?
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sister herb
01-10-2017, 06:25 PM
^^ I was thinking same.
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Scimitar
01-10-2017, 11:03 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Umm Abed
Was looking for the thread of the rumali roti.
forgot about that one lol
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oneday
01-11-2017, 02:49 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
In some countries, like I noticed before in the Middle East for example, people don´t have ovens at homes. They have to buy bread from the bakeries. And to many, the bread machine is still a luxury. They can (and have to) survive without it.

I love homemade bread and bake it sometimes (and cakes too but it´s the other story). The best bread I have ever made is the one what my granddad teached me to bake when I was a kid. He teached how to bake bread on the campfire, with the flat stone. I think it´s the most simple and the oldest way to bake the bread. But oh boy how it´s tasty when you are tired and hungry after playing outside.

:D

And its tasty brings happy memories from the childhood.
salam alaykom.
If possible, teach how to bake it
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oneday
01-11-2017, 03:31 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
I never heard about bread machine before I saw this thread. Maybe because main food in my place is rice, not bread.

But, if you love to bake your own bread, I think having bread machine is good idea because seem like easier to make bread by bread machine than by oven.


People in my place definitely disagree with you. In my place, if people eat bread but haven't eat rice they always feel they haven't eat.

:D

Bread is all-consuming.



In the place where you say, because rice is Very much perhaps they are rice producers people eat it for main food.
Whether they can live without bread?
I live in a place that
People may even eat rice every day.
But we can live without rice
And eat bread


Is it true that We choose rice for main food ?Even if we are rice producers

Are studies that compare, for example between
Wholemeal bread
Oat bread
rice
for example Compare criterions:
Properties and nutrients and medicine
The low cost of production and economy
and ...
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oneday
01-11-2017, 03:38 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
Here it´s same with the potatoes.
Bread is all-consuming.



In the place where you say, because the potatoes is Very much perhaps they are the potatoes producers people eat it for main food.
Whether they can live without bread?
I live in a place that

But we can live without the potatoes.
And eat bread


Is it true that We choose the potatoes for main food ?Even if we are the potatoes producer

Are studies that compare, for example between
Wholemeal bread
Oat bread
rice
the potatoes
for example Compare criterions:
Properties and nutrients and medicine
The low cost of production and economy
and ...
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oneday
01-11-2017, 03:49 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
In some countries, like I noticed before in the Middle East for example, people don´t have ovens at homes. They have to buy bread from the bakeries. And to many, the bread machine is still a luxury. They can (and have to) survive without it.

I love homemade bread and bake it sometimes (and cakes too but it´s the other story). The best bread I have ever made is the one what my granddad teached me to bake when I was a kid. He teached how to bake bread on the campfire, with the flat stone. I think it´s the most simple and the oldest way to bake the bread. But oh boy how it´s tasty when you are tired and hungry after playing outside.

:D

And its tasty brings happy memories from the childhood.

This is not cause that this is the best way
Is there Research about it?
In my country, people buy bread in the city
And these are luxury (bread machin)
But lifestyle should be modified
As
All people use television
Washing machine
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oneday
01-11-2017, 03:57 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Umm Abed
Are you perhaps advertising the bread machine??:?
no
mydear i advertising Medicine and growth By baking at home.I readed a book about:
Bread in Islam


And I want to buy it
I do not know it is a good system or not?
electricity consumption
Bread quality
Durable device
Who is use it?
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oneday
01-11-2017, 03:59 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
no



I do not know it is a good system or not?
my mean is bread machin. it can produce good bread?
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oneday
01-11-2017, 05:44 AM
in the bread in islam( book) writing:

According to Propositions in the religious sources about bread :

It seems that :
Islam says bread is centeral point for human nutrition
and for as a model for all :
production and use of barley bread
And Recommends in the process of Conversion grain to bread:
Non-use The bran is harmful
Put the dough In suitable containers For leavening
The lowest volume possible for pat of dough (To feed one person)
And the maximum time possible For heating
and at last Making bread at home As a general policy (Instead of buying from the market) Creates balance and harmony in society.
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Umm Abed
01-11-2017, 06:07 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
no
mydear i advertising Medicine and growth By baking at home.I readed a book about:
Bread in Islam


And I want to buy it
I do not know it is a good system or not?
electricity consumption
Bread quality
Durable device
Who is use it?
Ok good.

Yes a bread machine saves on electricity, compared to an oven.

But while you dont have a bread machine, try out some bread doughs and use the oven. You can use a loaf pan. Have you ever make bread dough before?

And yes a bread machine is a good idea but you need to follow instructions given with it.
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noraina
01-11-2017, 11:50 AM
Wa alaykum assalam,

Never had a bread machine, altho I have baked bread in the oven.

It was a bit lumpy and bumpy here and there but it was otherwise a decent loaf of bread, lol.

But anything like rotis and naans or flatbreads we make at home - homemade things really are nice, it's just we don't make the time to do it more often.
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noraina
01-11-2017, 11:53 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
People in my place definitely disagree with you. In my place, if people eat bread but haven't eat rice they always feel they haven't eat.
Where my family come from, anything less than a meaty stew and several flatbreads is not considered a meal. :D

Things like bread, pasta, vegetables, no matter how big the portion, only classify as 'snacks'.
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Scimitar
01-11-2017, 01:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
in the bread in islam( book) writing:

According to Propositions in the religious sources about bread :

It seems that :
Islam says bread is centeral point for human nutrition.
One of the oldest bread makers in the UK is a company called Hovis, and it is shortened from the Latin words "Hovinis Mis" which mean "Strength of Man" :)

Scimi
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ardianto
01-11-2017, 03:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by noraina
Where my family come from, anything less than a meaty stew and several flatbreads is not considered a meal. :D

Things like bread, pasta, vegetables, no matter how big the portion, only classify as 'snacks'.
In my place people consider bread as cake, except toast that considered as variation of breakfast.

By the way, in the beginning when KFC entered Indonesia, they did not provide rice, but bread in small pieces that almost as hard as French toast. But not so long this bread replaced by rice. Yeah, Indonesian people felt odd if must eat fried chicken with bread.
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oneday
01-11-2017, 05:35 PM
This is Opinion of islam. (Not certainty and 100%)Bread is central food
Medicine and nutrition professionals should be search that which food is main food?

Comparison between the bread
Meat
Rice
potato

And ...

Which is the best
As a main course.

for each economic
For all tastes
Full nutrients

As the main food Be selected.
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oneday
01-11-2017, 05:44 PM
This is Opinion of islam. (Not certainty and 100%)Bread is central food
meaning (Not certainty and 100%) :
Our understanding of Islam may be wrong
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oneday
01-11-2017, 05:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
"Strength of Man" :)

Scimi
بُنِيَ‏ الْجَسَدُ عَلَى الْخُبْزِ
Body force on bread
Body built on bread

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ardianto
01-11-2017, 05:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
Comparison between the bread
Meat
Rice
potato
You can compare bread with rice and potato, because these foods are carbohydrate. But you cannot compare bread with meat which is protein and fat.
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oneday
01-11-2017, 06:08 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto

People in my place definitely disagree with you. In my place, if people eat bread but haven't eat rice they always feel they haven't eat.

:D

format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
Here it´s same with the potatoes.
I forgot
Introduce more of how nutrition
At breakfast, lunch and dinner what to eat?
name of foods
Photos of foods

If possible
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oneday
01-11-2017, 06:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Umm Abed
Ok good.

Yes a bread machine saves on electricity, compared to an oven.

But while you dont have a bread machine, try out some bread doughs and use the oven. You can use a loaf pan. Have you ever make bread dough before?

And yes a bread machine is a good idea but you need to follow instructions given with it.
Yes, I cooked bread by milk.
But I have questions about bread maker.
Satisfying...?
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oneday
01-11-2017, 06:16 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
You can compare bread with rice and potato, because these foods are carbohydrate. But you cannot compare bread with meat which is protein and fat.
When choosing which is better for the main food.
one says our main food is meat.
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Umm Abed
01-11-2017, 07:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
Yes, I cooked bread by milk.
But I have questions about bread maker.
Satisfying...?
A bread machine is a good thing if you are going to use it regularly.

If you really want one then do get it, and yes it makes nice bread.
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
01-11-2017, 10:12 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
بسم الله الرحمن الرحیم
أَبَا عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع يَقُولُ‏ شِرَاءُ الْحِنْطَةِ يَنْفِي الْفَقْرَ وشِرَاءُ الدَّقِيقِ يُنْشِئُ الْفَقْرَ وَ شِرَاءُ الْخُبْزِ مَحْق‏

شِرَاءُ الدَّقِيقِ‏ ذُلٌّ وَ شِرَاءُ الْحِنْطَةِ عِزٌّ وَ شِرَاءُ الْخُبْزِ فَقْر

أَبِي الْحَسَنِ ع قَالَ: مَنِ اشْتَرَى‏ الْحِنْطَةَ زَادَ مَالُهُ وَ مَنِ اشْتَرَى الدَّقِيقَ ذَهَبَ نِصْفُ مَالِهِ وَ مَنِ اشْتَرَى الْخُبْزَ ذَهَبَ مَالُهُ
.


إنتي بتحكي العربية يا أخت؟ من وين وجدت هذه الروايات عن الخبز؟ أظن أنها من روايات الشيعة. "قال أبو عبد الله عليه السلام" لا يرد في كتب أهل السنة, وإنما ورد في كتب الشيعة الرافضة, وهذا "أبو عبد الله" يعني به الحسين بن علي رضي الله عنهما.
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oneday
01-12-2017, 09:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam

إنتي بتحكي العربية يا أخت؟ من وين وجدت هذه الروايات عن الخبز؟ أظن أنها من روايات الشيعة. "قال أبو عبد الله عليه السلام" لا يرد في كتب أهل السنة, وإنما ورد في كتب الشيعة الرافضة, وهذا "أبو عبد الله" يعني به الحسين بن علي رضي الله عنهما.
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Salam Alaikum Brother
Yes
I am a Muslim sister from Iran. i am shia. is it important?


Sunnis and Shia are brothers and sisters.
We are closer to each other than other people and other schools and other sects.

we Do not use Science of Non-Muslims ?

I read a book about bread in Islam


It was announced as a Theory
Anyone can investigate
And anyone could to announced His Methodical Theory

Research resources:
Quran, Hadith and Islamic history

Search method:
Use keywords related to bread

(As: Nutrition, Health and Hygiene, Economy and Investment, Production,Distribution and consumption
Crisis And food security)
And Search Appropriate Arabic words in Software At All sources Shia and
sunni



The final model and outcome of the investigation:
Change The center gravity of Bread from market to Home + Change Culture Public consumption No bran Wheat bread To Bread
Bran Barley



I want to use Islam For example In the case of bread at home


I asked about bread Maker in iranian site and a non-Muslim site out iran.
There Not someone using his experience about bread Maker
I asked here Only one person said it works good.


I love in Islam
I love to be friends with Muslims in other countries
I love to learn English
I love to cook bread at home


All of this caused I write this topic
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
01-12-2017, 09:56 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
Salam Alaikum Brother
Yes
I am a Muslim sister from Iran. i am shia. is it important?


Sunnis and Shia are brothers and sisters.
We are closer to each other than other people and other schools and other sects.

we Do not use Science of Non-Muslims ?
I read a book about bread in Islam


It was announced as a Theory
Anyone can investigate
And anyone could to announced His Methodical Theory

Research resources:
Quran, Hadith and Islamic history

Search method:
Use keywords related to bread

(As: Nutrition, Health and Hygiene, Economy and Investment, Production,Distribution and consumption
Crisis And food security)
And Search Appropriate Arabic words in Software At All sources Shia and
sunni



The final model and outcome of the investigation:
Change The center gravity of Bread from market to Home + Change Culture Public consumption No bran Wheat bread To Bread
Bran Barley



I want to use Islam For example In the case of bread at home


I asked about bread Maker in iranian site and a non-Muslim site out iran.
There Not someone using his experience about bread Maker
I asked here Only one person said it works good.


I love in Islam
I love to be friends with Muslims in other countries
I love to learn English
I love to cook bread at home


All of this caused I write this topic

يا أخت, لا تنسبي نفسك إلى فرقة الشيعة والتشيع. أظن أنك لا تعلمي ما هي عقائد الشيعة, مثل إعتقادهم بتحريف القرآن الكريم, وتكفير الصحابة, وتكفير المسلمين من أهل السنة والجماعة, والمتعة, والتقية, وإعتقادهم أن أئمتهم الإثنا عشرة أفضل من الأنبياء, واعتقاد بعض الروافض أن أئمتهم هم الذين خلقوا هذا الكون, يعني الدنيا, والسماوات السبع, والإنس والجن وحتى الملائكة المقربين

تعرفي هذه الإعتقادات؟ هي موجودة في كتب الشيعة المعتبرة عندهم. فما رأيك في مثل هذه العقائد؟ توافقي أم لا؟ ما رأيك في الصحابة رضوان الله تعالى عليهم؟ ما رأيك في القرآن الكريم؟ هل وقع فيه تحريف كما صرّح بذلك أئمة الشيعة مثل نوري التبرسي في كتابه: فصل الخطاب في تحريف كتاب رب الأرباب؟

ردي بالعربية من فضلك يا أخت
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ardianto
01-12-2017, 10:19 AM
I still wonder about correlation between bread (not foods in general) and Islam. Isn't bread is just one kind of foods?. How about other foods like rice or noodle?.


(Addition) I mean, if talk about foods in Islam, why focus only on bread?.
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sister herb
01-12-2017, 10:56 AM
I believe that shia-sunni- conflict hasn´t nothing to do with making bread, with or without bread machine. We both eat bread and like it a lot.
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oneday
01-12-2017, 12:30 PM
اوه
لا
لا اخ
لیست هذا من الاعتقادات الشیعه

نحن و انتم مسلمون



format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam


مثل إعتقادهم بتحريف القرآن الكريم
لا تحریف فی القرآن
, وتكفير الصحابة,
لا، نحن نحترم عقاید اهل السنه
وتكفير المسلمين من أهل السنة والجماعة,
!!!!!!!
,
لا، اهل السنت هم الانفسنا


کلنا مسلم
کلنا عبد الله
کلنا کتابنا القرآن
هو الاکتفاء فی وحدتنا

و اعتصمو بحبل الله جمیعا و لا تفرقوا

اسرائیل و صهیونیزم و الامریکا هم عدو المسلمین
هم یحب التفرق و العداوت بین المسلمین
الامریکا جعل الداعش لقتل المسلمین
الداعش و الوهابیت لا مسلم
هم تکفیر الشیعه و السنی
هم یقتل الناس و المسلمین
فی الافریقا یتقل المسلمین
فی الیمن یقتل المسلمین
فی العراق یقتل المسلمین
فی الافغانستان یقتل المسلمین
فی السوریه یقتل المسلمین
فی کل الارض



فی این مکان شیعه او السنی یقتل الناس؟
عدو مشترکنا الامریکا و الصهیونیست

واعتقاد بعض الروافض أن أئمتهم هم الذين خلقوا هذا الكون, يعني الدنيا, والسماوات السبع, والإنس والجن وحتى الملائكة المقربين
لا
هو الله الذی خالق کل شیئی



ما رأيك في الصحابة رضوان الله تعالى عليهم؟
ما اقول شیئا الا انهم ليس امامنا.

لأننی اعتقد هو الله الذی یختار الامام

ما رأيك في القرآن الكريم؟هل وقع فيه تحريف كما صرّح بذلك أئمة الشيعة مثل نوري التبرسي في كتابه: فصل الخطاب في تحريف كتاب رب الأرباب؟
لا اعتقد به
لا
لا وقع التحریم فیه ابدا



ردي بالعربية من فضلك يا أخت

لغتی الفارسیه
انا اعلم العربیه و الانجلیسه
قلیل







انا سوف ارسل موضوع فی عقاید الشیعه ان شاءالله

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oneday
01-12-2017, 12:34 PM

مثل إعتقادهم بتحريف القرآن الكريم؟
لا تحریف فی القرآن
وتكفير الصحابة؟,
لا، نحن نحترم عقاید اهل السنه
وتكفير المسلمين من أهل السنة والجماعة؟,
!!!!!!!
,
لا، اهل السنت هم الانفسنا


کلنا مسلم
کلنا عبد الله
کلنا کتابنا القرآن
هو الاکتفاء فی وحدتنا

و اعتصمو بحبل الله جمیعا و لا تفرقوا

اسرائیل و صهیونیزم و الامریکا هم عدو المسلمین
هم یحب التفرق و العداوت بین المسلمین
الامریکا جعل الداعش لقتل المسلمین
الداعش و الوهابیت لا مسلم
هم تکفیر الشیعه و السنی
هم یقتل الناس و المسلمین
فی الافریقا یتقل المسلمین
فی الیمن یقتل المسلمین
فی العراق یقتل المسلمین
فی الافغانستان یقتل المسلمین
فی السوریه یقتل المسلمین
فی کل الارض



فی این مکان شیعه او السنی یقتل الناس؟
عدو مشترکنا الامریکا و الصهیونیست

واعتقاد بعض الروافض أن أئمتهم هم الذين خلقوا هذا الكون, يعني الدنيا, والسماوات السبع, والإنس والجن وحتى الملائكة المقربين؟
لا
هو الله الذی خالق کل شیئی



ما رأيك في الصحابة رضوان الله تعالى عليهم؟
ما اقول شیئا الا انهم ليس امامنا.

لأننی اعتقد هو الله الذی یختار الامام

ما رأيك في القرآن الكريم؟هل وقع فيه تحريف كما صرّح بذلك أئمة الشيعة مثل نوري التبرسي في كتابه: فصل الخطاب في تحريف كتاب رب الأرباب؟
لا اعتقد به
لا
لا وقع التحریم فیه ابدا



ردي بالعربية من فضلك يا أخت؟

لغتی الفارسیه
انا اعلم العربیه و الانجلیسه
قلیل

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Huzaifah ibn Adam
01-12-2017, 02:37 PM
The sister says that she speaks Farsi, and only a little bit of Arabic and English. I was under the impression that she was fluent in Arabic, that is why I wrote the messages in Arabic. But, seeing as the sister's language is Farsi, we will keep it in English so that everyone can understand.

I have a question, sister:

What is your opinion of Khomeini? Do you accept him? Do you accept what he says, when it comes to matters of religion?
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ardianto
01-12-2017, 02:43 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
The sister says that she speaks Farsi, and only a little bit of Arabic and English. I was under the impression that she was fluent in Arabic, that is why I wrote the messages in Arabic. But, seeing as the sister's language is Farsi, we will keep it in English so that everyone can understand.

I have a question, sister:

What is your opinion of Khomeini? Do you accept him? Do you accept what he says, when it comes to matters of religion?
Oh, come on maulana, this thread is about bread.
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Huzaifah ibn Adam
01-12-2017, 02:51 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
Oh, come on maulana, this thread is about bread.
Yes, brother, I know the thread is about bread, and it can continue to be about bread and even rice as well, no problem. I'm just asking a few questions. We want to help the sister. In a previous post, I mentioned some of the beliefs of the Shi`as, and the sister denied believing in them. So, what we want to do now is to ascertain whether she accepts Khomeini or not. If she doesn't, then we say, she is not from the Shi`a, even though she may think that she is, and this is because she does not hold the fundamental beliefs of Shi'ism and nor does she accept the A'immah of the Shi`as. If she accepts Khomeini, on the other hand, then that is a different story.

I know the thread is about bread, but one non-bread related issue can also be mentioned. There's no harm in that. There have been three pages so far about bread.
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sister herb
01-12-2017, 02:59 PM
I think it´s better to stay with breads. We have already seen what shia-sunni- discussions may cause in here.
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ardianto
01-12-2017, 03:10 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
I know the thread is about bread, but one non-bread related issue can also be mentioned. There's no harm in that. There have been three pages so far about bread.
We should not out of topic. If you want to expand discussion into another topic you can go to related thread or create a new thread.
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Futuwwa
01-12-2017, 06:28 PM
I have a bread machine. It makes good bread, much cheaper than buying bread too.
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anatolian
01-12-2017, 07:09 PM
Actually bread is sanctified in most of the Middle eastern cultures. So it is in Turkish culture. Bread is even associated with Quran in some turkish proverbs and sayings. I don't know if this has any basis in Islam. Bread has a place in Christianity and it's rituals too..Interesting topic..
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sister herb
01-13-2017, 10:38 AM
The Middle East area was the one where people invented new idea, agriculture. Propably people had also before collected some seeds, grinded them and baked some kind of breads but it was only minimum part of their diet. But settling down and began to cultivate the land cave people suitable conditions to create what we call as culture. Tribes whose main livelihood was hunting, couldn´t create the culture but people whose cultivated the land, had to stay in one area longer time and baked bread was able to do so.

Bread = culture?
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oneday
01-13-2017, 11:18 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Huzaifah ibn Adam
Yes, brother, I know the thread is about bread, and it can continue to be about bread and even rice as well, no problem. I'm just asking a few questions. We want to help the sister. In a previous post, I mentioned some of the beliefs of the Shi`as, and the sister denied believing in them. So, what we want to do now is to ascertain whether she accepts Khomeini or not. If she doesn't, then we say, she is not from the Shi`a, even though she may think that she is, and this is because she does not hold the fundamental beliefs of Shi'ism and nor does she accept the A'immah of the Shi`as. If she accepts Khomeini, on the other hand, then that is a different story.

I know the thread is about bread, but one non-bread related issue can also be mentioned. There's no harm in that. There have been three pages so far about bread.
سلام علیکم یا اخی

I feel compassion and kindness and ...to you and others sisters and brothers. you are very good and kind and ...


it is near to flow My tears ...for you...for your Impeccability:Emoji53::Emoji6:

You're innocent..:Emoji53:
And you do not know shia and their belives

Wrong information given to you...:Emoji38:

Shia seem so bad So that You say this.:giggling::Emoji49:
perhaps i must cry .this is a The tragic irony.:Emoji31::Emoji6::Emoji17:..











i Will answer your question in new thread inshaallah.




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oneday
01-13-2017, 12:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
One of the oldest bread makers in the UK is a company called Hovis, and it is shortened from the Latin words "Hovinis Mis" which mean "Strength of Man" :)

Scimi
format_quote Originally Posted by Futuwwa
I have a bread machine. It makes good bread, much cheaper than buying bread too.






format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
The Middle East area was the one where people invented new idea, agriculture. Propably people had also before collected some seeds, grinded them and baked some kind of breads but it was only minimum part of their diet. But settling down and began to cultivate the land cave people suitable conditions to create what we call as culture. Tribes whose main livelihood was hunting, couldn´t create the culture but people whose cultivated the land, had to stay in one area longer time and baked bread was able to do so.

Bread = culture?
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
I still wonder about correlation between bread (not foods in general) and Islam. Isn't bread is just one kind of foods?. How about other foods like rice or noodle?


(Addition) I mean, if talk about foods in Islam, why focus only on bread?.
i answer it befor:




thanks
جزاکم الله خیرا
jazakomoallah khaira
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oneday
01-13-2017, 12:38 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
i answer it befor:



excuse me i forgot delet this Sentence. i wanted wrote this:

format_quote Originally Posted by oneday
This is Opinion of islam. (Not certainty and 100%)Bread is central food
Medicine and nutrition professionals should be search that which food is main food?

Comparison between the bread
Meat
Rice
potato

And ...

Which is the best
As a main food.

for each economic
For all tastes
Full nutrients

As the main food Be selected.
Rice is very common in Iran
But I feel that
Bread is more nutritious
And my body needs it
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sister herb
01-13-2017, 02:25 PM
As I wrote before like "bread = culture?", we still need to remember there are other cultures which base to something else, like to the rice. Our culture (with bread) is not superior comparing to them. A wheat (or barley or something else) just happened to grow better than rice.
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anatolian
01-14-2017, 10:47 PM
Once I was in Japan. I wanted bread with the meal in the restaurant. They said they don't have bread but they have rice. It was a wired thing to me not having bread in a restaurant.
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Nur80
01-15-2017, 11:04 AM
I have a bread maker but only use it now for kneading dough. Trying to cut down on wheat.
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oneday
01-15-2017, 12:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Nur80
I have a bread maker but only use it now for kneading dough. Trying to cut down on wheat.
salamun alaykom .



Well What are the advantages?
To buy bread
Do bakes good bread?
Is the power consumption is high?
Is it durable?


Please explain this Sentence : Trying to cut down on wheat
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