Originally Posted by TDWT
I don't think you understood what was written. "I" am not advocating anything. If I was giving my opinion, anyone could be free to reject it. But that is not what I'm doing. I am telling you that according to Sharee`ah, a person can become Baaligh before the age of 15. Have you understood so far? Now, the next part: Someone can become Baaligh at the age of 13. Understood? In Islaam, if a person is Baaligh at the age of 13, then he is an Adult and is treated accordingly. He is not a child, he is not considered to be a child. He is an adult and is treated as an adult. Is this understood so far?
Now, let's say this Adult, who happens to be 13-years of age, commits Irtidaad, i.e. commits apostasy, for example: the ruling is that, since he is an adult, he will be given the same penalty any other adult would be given, which is the death penalty.
Have you understood it now? This is not "my" ruling. I am telling you what the Sharee`ah says. And in fact, this is something which had happened in the past.
A Sahaabi by the name of `Atiyyah al-Qurazhi narrates a Hadeeth, and this particular Hadeeth is recorded in Sunan Abu Daawud, Sunan at-Tirmidhi, Sunan an-Nasaa'i, Sunan ibn Maajah, and elsewhere. He says, describing the aftermath of the battle of Khaybar which the Muslims fought against the Jews (he had been from the Jews):
عرِضنا على النبى صلى اللَّه عليه وسلم يوم قريظة وكان من أنبت قتل، ومن لم ينبِت خلي سبِيله، فكنت ممن لم ينبت فخلي سبيلي
"We (i.e. the prisoners) were presented to Nabi صلى الله عليه وسلم on the Day of (the battle of) Qurayzhah, and those who had started to grow pubic hair were killed, and those who had not, they were set free. I was from those who had not, so I was set free."
Commenting on this Hadeeth, Imaam at-Tirmidhi says:
حديث حسن صحيح، والعمل على هذا عند بعض أهل العلم، أنهم يرون الإنبات بلوغا إن لم يعرف احتلامه ولا سنه، وهو قول أحمد وإسحاق
"This Hadeeth is Hasan Saheeh, and the ruling is upon this (Hadeeth) according to some of the People of `Ilm. They regard the growth of pubic hair as being Buloogh (i.e. that the person has become Baaligh), in the case of one who has not had Ihtilaam (a wet dream) and whose age is not known, and this is the verdict of Ahmad and Is-haaq."
Again, as I have said over and over: I am telling you what the Sharee`ah says about this issue. I am not telling you what "I" say about it, because what "I" say about something means absolutely nothing at all. Therefore, to make a statement such as: "I'm a little disturbed that you advocate taht a 13 year old should be killed" is ridiculous, because it is not something that "I" am advocating. I have shown you that this is what the Sharee`ah says about it. What a lot of people do is that, when they can't directly attack the Sharee`ah, they instead direct their attack at the one who shows them what the ruling of the Sharee`ah is.
The meaning of Islaam is "to completely submit to Allaah Ta`aalaa". To submit to Islaam in entirety. To submit to the Sharee`ah in entirety. To submit to each and every facet of Islaam, whether you understand it or not.