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Mustafa16
02-19-2017, 03:10 AM
Is watching science fiction movies haram?
for instance, in the modern day installment of the Planet of the Apes trilogy, a new drug is tested on lab apes, to see if it cures brain illness, however, the disease spreads and nearly wipes out mankind, while the apes evolve by using the new drug to increase their intelligence and even allow them to communicate through language.....they are led by an ape who was once a human's pet, and the apes eventually rebel against human rule and struggle for control of the planet.
check it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_fo..._the_Apes#Apes


is this haram because it challenges the Islamic belief in intelligent design and humans being a vicegerent of Allah on Earth? or is it just harmless fun and a story?
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Simple_Person
02-19-2017, 07:41 AM
As far as i know there is nothing haram about it. However, if you THINK that what is being propagated as that is "possible" and thus making evolution-theory sort of a fact, that is defiantly a no-go.

I also have watched those movies, but i have found a deeper meaning. Like i already said "propagated", this is the brainwashing that now a days happens. As an ex-atheist myself, through believe i can alhamduillilah crush the whole evolution-theory and also through logic, rationality and reason i can alhamdulillah crush this theory. Many of the movies keep us busy. I mean think with me for a second, what has happened to those Discovery channel programs where they show you the wild and nature? Now a days they are talking about selling used cars and how to make artificial stuff. While watching documentaries about nature that can make you ponder about the ayaat (signs) of Allah(swt) is indeed way more beneficial, if you somehow still want to watch something on the tv.

Again, do not mistake what i have said to movies being "haram", as i am in no position to say such a thing. It only has less benefit if you ask me.
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M.I.A.
02-19-2017, 01:57 PM
i thought it was a pretty good film actually.. a really..really.. good remake rather than a scene for scene remake..

i found myself rooting for the apes.. be they dispised..

it was rather ironic.

lovely character development.


...but you know, we all watch the same thing.. coming to different conclusions.

https://www.radioislam.org/islam/eng...jews-Peres.jpg


...each to his own i suppose.

i prefer hard work, i cant be convinced otherwise.
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ardianto
02-19-2017, 02:50 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mustafa16
is this haram because it challenges the Islamic belief in intelligent design and humans being a vicegerent of Allah on Earth? or is it just harmless fun and a story?
If you think like that, it's mean you are failed to understand the message behind the story.

Human indeed, are destined to be intelligent creature on earth who have superiority. But how if human are not the only intelligent creature on earth, and have no superiority?. This is the message behind the story. And if you understand this message, In Shaa Allah, you would treat animal better.
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M.I.A.
02-19-2017, 02:53 PM
..he should go watch..

ex machina


two thimbs up!



.we should start an ib book club.. li
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Simple_Person
02-19-2017, 03:01 PM
*kuch*..*kuch*..Uncanny (2015)..*kuch*..*kuch*..

Beware of some un-Islamic scenes (skip those scenes)
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M.I.A.
02-19-2017, 03:12 PM
agreed..

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ma...wdrBY76LUt2sM:


...or maybe not o_0
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Simple_Person
02-19-2017, 03:24 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by M.I.A.
I like psychological movies and Uncanny was one of them. Many movies of the recent times are kind of shallow..just actions..as if you are watching Transformers every time. When you have watched a action movie like that at the end you already have forgotten what the plot was about..because it didn't really have a good plot.

Matrix was one of my favorites although it had a lot of action in it. The concept makes it good. I have good Korean movies..if you are up to quality on high level. If not..keep on watching hollywood :).
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M.I.A.
02-19-2017, 03:43 PM
meh.. as a westerner.. i am more inclined towards western movies.. although i am easy going..

i could probably watch most things.

who doesnt like transformers? its an escape from reality thats for sure..

although i am partial to subtitles.

great.. i forgot when i put the faluda on!!
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Muezzin
02-19-2017, 04:04 PM
Frankly, I think everyone should experience more good science fiction, regardless of their religion. Abstract thinking for the win.
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noraina
02-19-2017, 04:13 PM
I admit I loved reading and watching science fiction, now it is much less because I simply don't have the time to fit it in alongside studying and other things.

In my opinion, I think we should steer clear of anything which is too 'unIslamic' or inappropriate. And it's good to keep in mind most sci-fi is fiction, just a little too improbable to actually be that realistic, lol.

Back when I was a bit of a film buff, I just loved War of the Worlds and Artificial Intelligence - such underrated films IMO.
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Simple_Person
02-19-2017, 04:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
Frankly, I think everyone should experience more good science fiction, regardless of their religion. Abstract thinking for the win.
I think science fiction movies are even better as a Muslim to watch, regarding desires. For example if we take Avatar (2009). With nature and floating islands..this makes me disattach from the current world and what it offers. I then do not desire cars, houses, money or whatever this dunya offers. As those floating islands..are NOT in the reach of this dunya. This dunya becomes a joke hahahah compared to those nature seen on that planet Avatar movie :). Or riding on those dragon creatures..or just flying by yourself like Dragon Ball Z XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBGDmin_38E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9lHicT-U2w
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M.I.A.
02-19-2017, 04:45 PM
i could watch kids films and be perfectly happy..

kubo and the two strings.

ballerina.

more likely to inspire....emotion.. in me than most things.

kids sci-fi is not a thing..probably.
....

......

how i feel whenever someone mentions dragon ball z...

http://randomoverload.org/wp-content...almost.jpg.jpg

T_T

sooo not how this works.


hmm...

or the western equivalent that is mystery men.


...

there is no power or might except with allah swt.
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Serinity
02-19-2017, 05:54 PM
I usually watch animes which has Sci-fi things.

I don't really watch movies.

Like transformers, or some intelligent genius, the only thing I dislike about those "intelligent genial maniacs" are that they are usually portrayed in a shirky way. Maybe not, but sometimes they are portrayed llike that.

I like characters who are very humble, yet very rational, logical, and has strong will.

I think I went off a tangent. sry. Say.

Those who challenge Islamic beliefs, Allah put a challenge to write a book like The Qur'aan (and even if all of mankind and Jinnkind got together to do this, they'd never be able to)

Which proves that it is from Allah.

Allahu alam.
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M.I.A.
02-19-2017, 06:04 PM
yeah, excellent point really..

most subject matter has aspects of associating things with allah swt..

you have to be very careful in your understanding of such things..

but as it is.. there are only so many stories to tell..

before we hit sequels and remakes.

strange days.

to be upset at the status quo means nothing if we only aspire to trade places...


probably.
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Simple_Person
02-19-2017, 06:06 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Serinity
I usually watch animes which has Sci-fi things.

I don't really watch movies.

Like transformers, or some intelligent genius, the only thing I dislike about those "intelligent genial maniacs" are that they are usually portrayed in a shirky way. Maybe not, but sometimes they are portrayed llike that.

I like characters who are very humble, yet very rational, logical, and has strong will.

I think I went off a tangent. sry. Say.

Those who challenge Islamic beliefs, Allah put a challenge to write a book like The Qur'aan (and even if all of mankind and Jinnkind got together to do this, they'd never be able to)

Which proves that it is from Allah.

Allahu alam.
*kuch*..*kuch*..*kuch*..One Piece?? ...*kuch*..*kuch*..*kuch*..
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Serinity
02-19-2017, 07:36 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person
*kuch*..*kuch*..*kuch*..One Piece?? ...*kuch*..*kuch*..*kuch*..
Well, except that I dislike the kufr elements in it. I like how Luffy keeps on going even when the whole world and the government which is seen as "righteous" is against him.

he lost his brother. can't wait to see his rage on the one who caused his death.

But tbh, I didn't think of that anime, or any anime really. But I guess it fits the description of "humble yet strong willed, etc."
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Scimitar
02-19-2017, 08:29 PM
Sooo, anyone looking at forward to the Ghost in the Shell movie? ;)
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M.I.A.
02-19-2017, 09:04 PM
=_= ...should be good, the blade runner remake is also.. probably going to be epic.

Officer K (Ryan Gosling), a new blade runner for the Los Angeles Police Department, unearths a long-buried secret that has the potential to plunge what's left of society into chaos. His discovery leads him on a quest to find Rick Deckard (Harrison Ford), a former blade runner who's been missing for 30 years.


do the thing han.. the thing..
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Scimitar
02-20-2017, 05:55 PM
Well, after watching Lucy, Scarlett johanssen is definitely the right choice for the role of motoko kusanagi.

Scimi
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Simple_Person
02-20-2017, 06:19 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Scimitar
Sooo, anyone looking at forward to the Ghost in the Shell movie? ;)
I've seen the anime movies, but not that big of a fan. I am more fantasy anime kind of fan. Howl's moving castle, Childern who chase lost voices, spirited away..the boy and the beast..kind of anime..Studio Ghibli definitly.
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M.I.A.
02-20-2017, 06:21 PM
pincess mononoki?
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AhmedGassama
02-20-2017, 06:27 PM
I think it's a good idea for anyone to prepare a book of comedy, called "The News of the Stupid and the Idiot" which will surely get Awards and oscars world wide, just by visiting this forum and by reading silly threads like this while taking notes!

And then the comedy book will get adopted by Hollywood scenarists just to make a Sci-fi movie about it.

And then you will Watch yourselves and just laugh and maybe then you will discover if it's Halal or Haram!

Wallahi, it's unbelievable, leaving what is really important to discuss insignificant subjects!

The problem is not the editor of this thread, the problem is the people who are answering it!
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Simple_Person
02-20-2017, 06:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by M.I.A.
pincess mononoki?
But..of course XD..how can somebody say he is a anime fantasy fan if he has never seen that one or also loved that one :).
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M.I.A.
02-20-2017, 06:36 PM
im sorry...


https://youtu.be/J7GY1Xg6X20


well its a repost anyway.

lol.. like genuinely..

i should be out earning a buck.


seriously, arnt we all?

your nobody until you start screwing about in somebody elses life.
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Simple_Person
02-20-2017, 06:37 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AhmedGassama
I think it's a good idea for anyone to prepare a book of comedy, called "The News of the Stupid and the Idiot" which will surely get Awards and oscars world wide, just by visiting this forum and by reading silly threads like this while taking notes!

And then the comedy book will get adopted by Hollywood scenarists just to make a Sci-fi movie about it.

And then you will Watch yourselves and just laugh and maybe then you will discover if it's Halal or Haram!

Wallahi, it's unbelievable, leaving what is really important to discuss insignificant subjects!

The problem is not the editor of this thread, the problem is the people who are answering it!
Sometimes having a CASUAL conversation isn't so bad and makes us human. It is if you spend all your time on such conversations is making things not beneficial. That is why i left facebook, whatsapp and all that kind of nonsense. The rubbish was more than the beneficial stuff for me anyways.

EDIT: Btw, i have gained seriously a lot of wisdom and knowledge looking Japanese anime movies and series. I have restricted it in the last 1-2 years and i am restricting it more. I watch series that i already was following and only watch new anime movies as they are not more then 1-2 hours. While new series ask a lot more time to follow and that's why i don't watch new series anymore.

About Hollywood movies and movies in general. I have also stopped watching new movies unknown to me, but only still watch movies that are sequels of movies that i already have seen. In the end being not watching any movies anymore. Because indeed is a lot of time wasted, however i will not tell others to do as i do. Everybody is free to do with their time.
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Muezzin
02-20-2017, 06:47 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AhmedGassama
I think it's a good idea for anyone to prepare a book of comedy, called "The News of the Stupid and the Idiot" which will surely get Awards and oscars world wide, just by visiting this forum and by reading silly threads like this while taking notes!

And then the comedy book will get adopted by Hollywood scenarists just to make a Sci-fi movie about it.

And then you will Watch yourselves and just laugh and maybe then you will discover if it's Halal or Haram!

Wallahi, it's unbelievable, leaving what is really important to discuss insignificant subjects!

The problem is not the editor of this thread, the problem is the people who are answering it!
And the post I have quoted will form the funniest joke in that book.
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Scimitar
02-20-2017, 06:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person
I've seen the anime movies, but not that big of a fan. I am more fantasy anime kind of fan. Howl's moving castle, Childern who chase lost voices, spirited away..the boy and the beast..kind of anime..Studio Ghibli definitly.
Studio Ghibli is what Disney wishes it could be like.

Once you've seen Studio Ghibli, Disney looks lame lol.

format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
And the post I have quoted will form the funniest joke in that book.
Pfft, hahahha,

I see what you did there :)

Scimi
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Scimitar
02-20-2017, 07:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AhmedGassama
I think it's a good idea for anyone to prepare a book of comedy, called "The News of the Stupid and the Idiot" which will surely get Awards and oscars world wide, just by visiting this forum and by reading silly threads like this while taking notes!

And then the comedy book will get adopted by Hollywood scenarists just to make a Sci-fi movie about it.

And then you will Watch yourselves and just laugh and maybe then you will discover if it's Halal or Haram!

Wallahi, it's unbelievable, leaving what is really important to discuss insignificant subjects!

The problem is not the editor of this thread, the problem is the people who are answering it!
Sci-Fi is based on Scientific theory,

for example - in the 60's a small tv show called star trek, developed theories into Tractor Beams and stuff like this - which are now a reality.

It's not a waste of time for those of us who are tech minded and pursue the science - for us, it's an entertaining way of learning something, call it "edutainment".

Scimi
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AhmedGassama
02-20-2017, 07:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Muezzin
And the post I have quoted will form the funniest joke in that book.

Actually your understanding of what i said will form the funniest joke in the book.
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Scimitar
02-20-2017, 07:24 PM
Ahmed, be nice to your elders.

Scimi
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M.I.A.
02-20-2017, 07:26 PM
i do agree..

the view is everything.

travel the land and see what became of them.

but if you give me the wrong change.. il give it you back.. even if your in company.

edit edit..

https://www.google.co.uk/search?ie=U...ngAw#gfe_rd=cr


o_0
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Muezzin
02-20-2017, 07:35 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AhmedGassama
Actually your understanding of what i said will form the funniest joke in the book.
The starter of this thread asked a question and received answers. Nobody is saying to leave more important matters in service of less important matters as your original post suggested. Please do not make assumptions about others' intentions, as it is very easy to make a mistake which can, and will, turn them against you to the detriment of all.
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M.I.A.
02-20-2017, 08:00 PM
...a lot of us should have prayed more.. maybe?

ok really im done for the day :{|
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Scimitar
02-20-2017, 08:01 PM
<mj popcorn gif>
grew up on Dr Who. Star Trek. And Kung Fu.

Scimi
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Supernova
02-20-2017, 08:04 PM
Ex Machina = Fantastic
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Simple_Person
02-21-2017, 12:43 AM
[QUOTE=Scimitar;2949914]Studio Ghibli is what Disney wishes it could be like.

Once you've seen Studio Ghibli, Disney looks lame lol.

---------------
My latest Disney movie was Moana and now I am also definitely out. Propaganda upon propaganda...whole rubbish feminist hidden propaganda destroys the quality of the story. If Hollywood wasn't bad enough for their LGBT-agenda now Disney is poisoning the minds of children.

Manny people haven't been properly introduced with Asian and other foreign cinema, where movies of some sort of good plot still exist. Hollywood and Disney are joke for simple minded people to get more brainwashed. Hollywood is badass in screwing over movies with good plots. I am amazed how they can turn them in to shallow shells. They really have good talent for it.
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