help me uNDERSTAND

[yvonne4]

I wanted to say I'm sorry for being rude--I just see so much crazy stuff--beheading hurting women wearing clothes that cover the beauty of women. And killing so much evil and abuse thru Muslims religion. Like you don't believe in us we don't want nothing to do with you ..so much negative stuff.so many Syrians killing each other over what,how you dress, men don't have to cover themselves but women have to wears clothes that are so hot cant drive cant go any where alone. You my has well put us in a cage and take us out when you want..explain to me how this is a women world. Its a man world and he has it made, you live in cement houses no green trees ,hardly any food.no wonder your religion so important you have nothing else.explain to me would you..I will get banned because that's how thin lined you Muslim's are I go to Christian board:phew and I never get banned,,ok

[Hamza Asadullah]

I wanted to say I'm sorry for being rude--I just see so much crazy stuff--beheading hurting women wearing clothes that cover the beauty of women. And killing so much evil and abuse thru Muslims religion. Like you don't believe in us we don't want nothing to do with you ..so much negative stuff.so many Syrians killing each other over what,how you dress, men don't have to cover themselves but women have to wears clothes that are so hot cant drive cant go any where alone. You my has well put us in a cage and take us out when you want..explain to me how this is a women world. Its a man world and he has it made, you live in cement houses no green trees ,hardly any food.no wonder your religion so important you have nothing else.explain to me would you..I will get banned because that's how thin lined you Muslim's are I go to Christian board:phew and I never get banned,,ok

Well sister if your going to gain your knowledge of the situation of Muslims and current affairs involving Muslims by Youtube videos, twitter, Facebook and what you see on the main stream media then it is no wonder why you think in the way that you do. But are you forgetting that the reality of the situation especially since 911 is that millions of innocent people, mostly Muslims, have been killed and have experienced the worst atrocities known to humanity, in places like Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria. The world powers that are responsible for most of these killings are world powers who represent Christianity, like USA, Europe and Russia.

Look at what the ethnic Rohingya people are going through in Burma. The media do not even report on it but they are being slaughtered by extremist Buddhists like animals. So please look into the true reality of the situation of the world before being selective in who you want to blame for the problems of the world.

[Bobbyflay23]

I wanted to say I'm sorry for being rude--I just see so much crazy stuff--beheading hurting women wearing clothes that cover the beauty of women. And killing so much evil and abuse thru Muslims religion. Like you don't believe in us we don't want nothing to do with you ..so much negative stuff.so many Syrians killing each other over what,how you dress, men don't have to cover themselves but women have to wears clothes that are so hot cant drive cant go any where alone. You my has well put us in a cage and take us out when you want..explain to me how this is a women world. Its a man world and he has it made, you live in cement houses no green trees ,hardly any food.no wonder your religion so important you have nothing else.explain to me would you..I will get banned because that's how thin lined you Muslim's are I go to Christian board:phew and I never get banned,,ok

You see it's because your being close minded brother hamza has talked about terrorism and I'll go into women's rights

So it's pretty clear you havnt really done any real research about this type of stuff and there's allot of questions like this that non Muslims ask that dr zakir naik answers pretty well

So to start off the rights of the female vs the male
The male and the female in Islam are not considered the same at all we both have different rights and we both have = rights for example the female is not forced to cook for her husband that is actually a matter of culture the only thing really obligatory on the female as a right is to take care of the children and that's only until they become mature enough to be left alone and stuff sooo around puberty age (after elementary school) so you guys really don't have it that hard considering the male is forced to do labor for the rest of his life for you at your leisure and he's forced to take care of you and buy you gifts and stuff there is not Valentine's Day in Islam because everyday your supposed to be loving to your wife and give her flowers and also what are you talking about "lock us in a cage" this is another thing of culture in Islam women are free to go get a job and women are free to go leave and stuff we don't force them to stay in the house it's just women usually perfer intact the prophets (saw) first wife was a business women and she owned her own company. So idk maybe that's a good explanation why women are = in every aspect women have some evened out right and they are completely = in rights men have responsibilities and women have responsibilities in Islam and then both also have rights

Nextly about the whole hijab men and women both have a awrah the awrah of a women in front of a women is from her belly button to her knee caps and the mans awrah in front of everyone except his wife is from his navel to his knee and then also the females awrah in front of men that are not her husband is her entire body except for anything below the ankles and the hands and face now I don't need to argue with you why the hijab is good or not because that's a long topic and if you where rational you can go on YouTube and look up dr zakir naik hijab explanation and now I would like to add that women can choose if they want to where the hijab and it is haram for us Muslims to force anything even if it's a obligation on another muslim so the women has complete choice on how she wants to dress weather she's a Muslim or not but in Islam it is obligatory on her to where the hijab but she can choose not too and she can still go to heaven without it it's just less likely

And also why don't we be fair. You claim Christianity is fair huh? Christianity has orginal sin and blames all of the sin from the very beggining on women it also does not promote marriage because of the fact that women are naturally "evil" nobody follows this of course but it is the Christianity's teachings and then we can move on to how if you literally look at the picture of the mother of Jesus (as) SHE WHERES A HIJAB and the Bible is even more strict because there are verses saying the women should shave off her entire head if she doesn't where hijab (I don't remember which book or verses but I remember watching a debate about it) please research Islam and if you have any problems come here and we can answer it in a civilized manner no need to get personal about this or attack eachover if the Muslim women felt oppressed they would have ran off with some guy and just married him or would've left Islam or somthing basically ran away from home. But guess what that doesn't happen doesn't that signify that they feel fine

[Umm Abed]

Take that blinkers off and understand Islam, yvonne, you are looking at Islam as how you want to perceive it!

Look at Islam in a realistic way without any prejudice then you will get the answer.

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[Futuwwa]

What exactly is it you want explained to you, that you want help understanding? All I see is an incoherent mumble of assertions.

[sister herb]

I will get banned because that's how thin lined you Muslim's are I go to Christian board:phew and I never get banned,,ok

If you go to the Christian forum (well, here are many different kind of, some only spread hate and prejudices) and troll to there accusations against Christianity without any proof, they too might ban you. If you know your posts or style to write is against the rules of the forum and good manners of discussion, then it´s quite childish blame that some possible banning is someone´s else fault.

And hey, you were the same member than in other thread you claimed to marry with Muslim soon. Was that thread too only trolling?

[MuhammadHamza1]

I wanted to say I'm sorry for being rude--I just see so much crazy stuff--beheading hurting women wearing clothes that cover the beauty of women. And killing so much evil and abuse thru Muslims religion. Like you don't believe in us we don't want nothing to do with you ..so much negative stuff.so many Syrians killing each other over what,how you dress, men don't have to cover themselves but women have to wears clothes that are so hot cant drive cant go any where alone. You my has well put us in a cage and take us out when you want..explain to me how this is a women world. Its a man world and he has it made, you live in cement houses no green trees ,hardly any food.no wonder your religion so important you have nothing else.explain to me would you..I will get banned because that's how thin lined you Muslim's are I go to Christian board:phew and I never get banned,,ok

Stop watching CNN and BBC.

[MuhammadHamza1]

USA invaded Muslim countries.
When the inhabitants of those countries took up arms,they werr called terrorists.
Now the irony is:
YOU MENTIONED SYRIA.
1)-The Protests which started the war,were not peaceful.
They were armed people and they fired on the Government forces in those protests.
Guess who gave them those weopens?
Your very own USA.
2)-USA wants to oust Assad because he is not a Zionost puppet.He does not takr dictation from your leaders and because he is Anti Israel.
3)-The Chemical attacks were false flag,they were used by US backed forces and UN itself admitted it.
4)-USA wants to invade Iran.As it is a hurdle in the regional goals of Israel.Thr Greater Israel Project.
5)-The Syrians are killing because your leaders have misled them.
6)-USA is the biggest terrorist.And so is the one who supports it.
7)-USA wants to start a Third World War.

[Abz2000]

This Book is an essential read, the people you ask of base their way of life on it, read it:

http://www.islam101.com/quran/yusufAli/

Then if you want to know more, read the biography of the prophet Muhammad (may the peace and blessings of Allah the most high be upon him) from a genuine Muslim source - an easy to understand recommendation would be "the sealed nectar".
I hope the answers to your questions will fall into place and you can uNDERSTAND God when you compare it with history and current events and actions of people from other ways of life.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ile.quranengya

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...7394.app334746

[Bobbyflay23]

And hey, you were the same member than in other thread you claimed to marry with Muslim soon. Was that thread too only trolling?

I've realized after you said that that she's kinda doing the hit and run sortve type of view I'm pretty sure she's just posting her views and not reading our response because she's made 3 posts and on each of them she would just post somthing and never come back to the post

[Umm Abed]

I've realized after you said that that she's kinda doing the hit and run sortve type of view I'm pretty sure she's just posting her views and not reading our response because she's made 3 posts and on each of them she would just post somthing and never come back to the post

Yes she is doing real trolling, but you know what, the replies are very informative so everybody else can read it and get educated, troll or not.

[AbdurRahman.]

I wanted to say I'm sorry for being rude--I just see so much crazy stuff--beheading hurting women wearing clothes that cover the beauty of women. And killing so much evil and abuse thru Muslims religion. Like you don't believe in us we don't want nothing to do with you ..so much negative stuff.so many Syrians killing each other over what,how you dress, men don't have to cover themselves but women have to wears clothes that are so hot cant drive cant go any where alone. You my has well put us in a cage and take us out when you want..explain to me how this is a women world. Its a man world and he has it made, you live in cement houses no green trees ,hardly any food.no wonder your religion so important you have nothing else.explain to me would you..I will get banned because that's how thin lined you Muslim's are I go to Christian board:phew and I never get banned,,ok

my dear sister, unfortunately the propaganda media has brainwashed you and programmed you exactly the way they want unless you learn to think for yourself my dear there is no point explaining anything to you :Emoji30:

[yvonne4]

Your half right,,,usa is not perfect. I do understand, I wish we could just all love each other, its not all about Israeli...you don't like iseral.do you?I do not care for trump.But I do love usa..freedom,and women are safe and respected. And not second to a man.I do treat my man like a king, but I say do and speak has I wish...:Dand if the usa is so bad why do so many want to live here.....thanks

[Bobbyflay23]

Your half right,,,usa is not perfect. I do understand, I wish we could just all love each other, its not all about Israeli...you don't like iseral.do you?I do not care for trump.But I do love usa..freedom,and women are safe and respected. And not second to a man.I do treat my man like a king, but I say do and speak has I wish...:Dand if the usa is so bad why do so many want to live here.....thanks

That's what the men want you to think but in the end most in America view women as sexual objects a side effect of women dressing so poorly and no it's not a free country I live in America and if you actually contemplate nothing about it is free it's just what they teach you

[Bobbyflay23]

Your half right,,,usa is not perfect. I do understand, I wish we could just all love each other, its not all about Israeli...you don't like iseral.do you?I do not care for trump.But I do love usa..freedom,and women are safe and respected. And not second to a man.I do treat my man like a king, but I say do and speak has I wish...:Dand if the usa is so bad why do so many want to live here.....thanks

The reason why most Muslims hate isreal is because they where the ones who kicked the phealstenians out of there land which are majority Muslims and then they are still oppressing the Muslims and stuff plus there's been a long history of conflict between Us for instance how they've tried to corrupt our religion failed so they went on to corrupting our historic books on the prophet(saw) the hadiths we don't hate isreal ians as a whole we hate there government and there politicians and the people that purposely help the oppression of Muslims but if your like isrealian and your all about peace then we love them

[MuhammadHamza1]

Your half right,,,usa is not perfect. I do understand, I wish we could just all love each other, its not all about Israeli...you don't like iseral.do you?I do not care for trump.But I do love usa..freedom,and women are safe and respected. And not second to a man.I do treat my man like a king, but I say do and speak has I wish...:Dand if the usa is so bad why do so many want to live here.....thanks

1)-USA is invading other countries.
It killed its own citizens on 9/11 for war in Middle East.It is the biggest terrorist.It has killed millions since World War 2.And yes.Even in World War 2,USA was on the wrong side
2)-Why Do We Hate Israel so much?
Because it drove out Palestinians.
And it is respinsible for the current conflict in Middle East.
3)-Why do People want to live in US?
Because it is developed.
And it is developed by looting other countries.On the Trillions it earns from Opium in Afghanistan to the Oil in Iraq.

[MuhammadHamza1]

I do not mind you loving USA.
But if we stand up for justice and truth,
Do not also blame us.
USA is the enemy of us Muslims who have open eyes.
https://youtu.be/ESZN_YDE-TU
Thr truth is against you.
You live in peace while your country is destroying other countries.
Do you know why?
Because of
1)-Israel.
It wants Greater Israel.
For that to happen,regional powers must be defeated.
That is why this talk of invading Iran exists.
2)-They have Oil.
3)-They do not have a Banking System that constitutes usury,as with Libya,or that which enslaves that country,as with Syria,Iran,Iraq,North Korea etc.

[MuhammadHamza1]

Watch.
THE GREATEST STORY NEVER TOLD
To understand your country.
It explains what is happening now.

[sister herb]

^ Wut? o_O

:haha:

[Bobbyflay23]

^ Wut? o_O

:haha:

He usually doesn't talk like that something's different maybe he's under the influence

[Bobbyflay23]

unnuSTAN i

y'alls is all crazy and like blowing stuff up and stuff is like u alls is crazy i mean shoot whassup with that man
dude say on twitter he saw some girl vine she made bout her mom watchin fox news or summin and dude was like man all yalls crazy
evil crazy stuff what my mom said cus like rippin heads off and stuff i mean cummon man thats crazy

Thanks you for allowing me to express myself in your forum. I look forward to a mutually beneficial learning experience.

Sincerely,

--Dan Edge

I think you allready understand that there's a difference between terrorists and Muslims if you've been on this forum for so long

[DanEdge]

I think you allready understand that there's a difference between terrorists and Muslims if you've been on this forum for so long

Greetings,

I was trying to be funny, unsuccessfully as it turns out. I thought the original post was rather silly, so I wrote a parody. All the slang is native to my area of the US (the Deep South). I guess it's good it got deleted if some were taking it as a serious charge.

:D

--Dan Edge

[Bobbyflay23]

Greetings,

I was trying to be funny, unsuccessfully as it turns out. I thought the original post was rather silly, so I wrote a parody. All the slang is native to my area of the US (the Deep South). I guess it's good it got deleted if some were taking it as a serious charge.

:D

--Dan Edge

It's all good but I condemn the joke and mocking her

[Huzaifah ibn Adam]

beheading

Beheading is done as an execution for those who have done such actions as make them deserving of it. That very same UK and America at one stage used to behead enemies of the state. In fact, why still bother with the old days? What about right now? Right now, in the USA, death row inmates who have been issued an execution warrant, if they live in Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia, they'll be killed through electrocution. If they live in Arizona or California, they'll be killed through gas inhalation. If they live in Utah, they'll be killed by the firing squad. If they live in Washington, they'll be killed by hanging.

Well, if they live in an Islaamic State, they'll be killed by beheading.

So what is the problem?

men don't have to cover themselves

Men are supposed to dress according to the Sunnah, which means, wearing a loose-fitting Kurtah and pants (no tight clothes), growing a beard, covering the head, etc. If they were to walk around dressed in a tight jeans and t-shirt, they'd be sinful. So the men have to dress properly as well.

Examples of the Sunnah method of dressing:

hurting women

How?

wearing clothes that cover the beauty of women

Once, a man was speaking with a scholar about this issue, asking why Islaam commands women to cover up, etc. etc. The scholar had some sweets in his pocket. He took two out, and unwrapped the one. He held them in his hand and asked this man, "Which one do you want?" The man took the sweet with the wrapper on. The scholar told him, "There's your answer."

Second example. Even in worldly things, even in this Dunyaa, the cheap stuff are always left in the open whereas the valuable things are always hidden. Gold is always hidden away in vaults. People hide their money away in banks. Precious pearls are concealed in oysters, hidden away in the oceans. Many such examples. The Muslim women conceal themselves because they are more precious than gold and more precious than money.

women have to wears clothes that are so hot

Have you spoken to Muslim women who wear the Hijaab and Niqaab? They find it quite comfortable and would be uncomfortable without it.

cant drive cant go any where alone.

Tell me, the "Queen" of England - does she drive or does she get driven...?

You have your answer.

you live in cement houses no green trees ,hardly any food.

Have you been to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Dubai, etc.? In comparison, America and Americans are the ones sitting in poverty, destitute, no food to eat.

no wonder your religion so important you have nothing else.

Wrong. A true Muslim, if he possessed the whole world and all that it contains, if he was the "King of the World", it would not take him one inch away from this Deen of Islaam. Why? Because he loves Allaah. That's something you wouldn't understand. The Muslims, especially the Mujaahideen and Shuhadaa, they are extreme in their love for Allaah...

[yvonne4]

I'm not a related to Israeli ..I'm American ,,now we have got you Muslims out many bad situation we did not start all the conflicts ,,what about isses ,,and Taliban ..what about that..we helped a lot..so if you dislike America ,,why are you here..ask youreslve that...o yes its a free country,,,and your safe,,,but with trump its not so safe for many people, he is putting the country back together in some ways...again I do love all.

[yvonne4]

you Muslims believe in ..either go with us or we will destroy and conquer...that's scary...America to big and we are natural fighters of freedom. But again I haven't ever been poor. I don't trust musluims...at all. There to narrower minded in all things ..9-11 Muslims>shooting up Syria>Iran sponsor termism....well I'm just a America women ..wanting the 1950 back were things were all American ....miss them days.Musims need toasty in the own country .the world be happier...mixed up...

[*charisma*]

Hi @yvonne4

I have respect for you because even though you don't understand muslims, and maybe you don't like them from what you've heard, you're still here trying to learn more about us. I want to say thank you for reaching out.

I'm not a related to Israeli ..I'm American ,,now we have got you Muslims out many bad situation we did not start all the conflicts ,,what about isses ,,and Taliban ..what about that..we helped a lot..so if you dislike America ,,why are you here..ask youreslve that...o yes its a free country,,,and your safe,,,but with trump its not so safe for many people, he is putting the country back together in some ways...again I do love all.

I think we can agree that the US does help some Muslims, but also there is a war against them too. The beautiful thing about the US is the diversity here, however if you are not used to being around different types of people and all you hear about them are bad things, I can understand why you'd be afraid of them. The problem with American politics is that it divides. It's funny because we are not too different from one another, yet we focus too much on the differences and never on the similarities. Just because I am Muslim, doesn't mean I don't believe in the some of the same values as you believe in. We may differ in some aspects, but then when you look at the bigger picture, America embraces everyone no matter how they dress or what they believe in. I don't think it's your place to be against that as an American.

you Muslims believe in ..either go with us or we will destroy and conquer...that's scary...America to big and we are natural fighters of freedom. But again I haven't ever been poor. I don't trust musluims...at all. There to narrower minded in all things ..9-11 Muslims>shooting up Syria>Iran sponsor termism....well I'm just a America women ..wanting the 1950 back were things were all American ....miss them days.Musims need toasty in the own country .the world be happier...mixed up...

Actually no one really believes that. We have our own Islamic countries that need to be fixed up before we can think about "conquering" anything. There are a lot of wars going on, but America has it's own share of wars too as it dabbles in everything that doesn't concern it. The only difference is it fights on other people's lands not on it's own, and it often destroys those countries in it's "fight for freedom." Freedom from what I ask? We can't forget about what happened in Iraq. Was that a fight for freedom? Is raping and torturing innocent civilians such as in Abu Ghraib prison part of American values?? Americans have their own share of VERY bad people, but I don't paint you all with the same brush. That would be unfair. So why do you do it?

[yvonne4]

thank you...I just want all of us to love each other no matter what,I feel like your living in the 1200 when food came from the sea. Down to earth living is good. But living so primitive...and by the way I never show my cleavage..im a Mormon and I DO wear garments under my clothing, amen. wi eve be like you..al human's are driffrent..and guess what when we die.we will see what really is in store for some.m da said we wil go back to the s as that's that,thre I no gd ,alla nothing...I feel ..well don't no.no one real.

[Hamza Asadullah]

thank you...I just want all of us to love each other no matter what,I feel like your living in the 1200 when food came from the sea. Down to earth living is good. But living so primitive...and by the way I never show my cleavage..im a Mormon and I DO wear garments under my clothing, amen. wi eve be like you..al human's are driffrent..and guess what when we die.we will see what really is in store for some.m da said we wil go back to the s as that's that,thre I no gd ,alla nothing...I feel ..well don't no.no one real.

Yvonne your posts are very incoherent and difficult to understand. Maybe you should take a bit more effort and time into writing properly worded sentences.

Also one only needs to look at your posts to establish that you did not come here to want to "understand".

So all we are asking of you is to for you to look into Islam properly for your own knowledge and understanding with an open heart. Only then will you be able to "truly" understand what Islam is really about rather than what you read or watch on the media and internet or what your fellow Mormons and friends falsely tell you.

By looking into Islam for your own knowledge and understanding with an open heart then I have no doubt that if you are seeking guidance and the truth and ask of God sincerely then InshaAllah (God willing) he will guide you towards the truth and you will then realise that Islam is the only truth for all of mankind.

Please educate yourself on what Islam is really about: Threads for those looking into Islam

Very useful threads for those looking into Islam

May Allah guide you to the truth. Ameen