My job issue!

Hey guys,

Im upset over something and so wanted to get it off my chest!

So i have been working in this company for 3 years and i felt it was the right time for me to apply for another job within the same company as i felt i had the skills for that position anyways i went for an interview and i dont think i got the job ( as they are interviewing more people) what im sad about is that this guy who knew less than me got the position a year ago only because he "goes to pubs" with them after work and so on. Its really unfair.

I try and tell myself that maybe that job is not in my rizq maybe Allah does not wish it for me but i still feel sad over it.

I also feel like whats the point stying there but i really like the company and the hours.

How do i feel better aboht this situation?

Assalamu Alaikum

Don't think so negatively sis. This could be a blessing in disguise. Instead of feeling like you don't deserve the job, it could be that Allah is saving something much better for you inshallah. Say Alhemdulilah and be patient with Allah's plans for you. Also you have not been given an answer yet so there could still be a chance.

Thanks charisma i guess you are right i guess i should be patient. Thanks

Ok so i still havent heard anything and they are still interviewing ... if they liked me they wouldnt have interviewed more candidates and would have given me the job.

I feel so sad

Sister, to "want" something, doesn't mean it is good for you. There are sometimes jobs, that "expect" from you to become their CARBON copies. They do zina, so the EXPECT you also to do it. They go to the pub and enjoy free-mixing, so they expect you also to do it.

With a job there is more than only the job itself. There are those "hidden" rules of for example being part of a group of the gossiping-group or favoritism, while gossiping as well as favoritism is clearly forbidden in islam. They expect you to behave like they do. They do not like honest people who speak out the truth.

Remember being "sad" about it, is also rather going against destiny of Allah. Remember one of the six pillars of imaan is accepting the good and the bad destiny. By being sad is rather not agreeing to Allah not having given it to you. Be very careful with this mentality, it could costs you your place in paradise. Such a small thing to you, but a HUGE thing from the religious perspective.

xa_xa_ft said:

Ok so i still havent heard anything and they are still interviewing ... if they liked me they wouldnt have interviewed more candidates and would have given me the job.

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Maybe. Very much depends on their recruitment and selection procedures. Many companies have a rule that says all internal applicants must be interviewed (this is especially true of public companies). You can only wait until the selection process is complete. Be patient!

Hi - i do try to see it from the perspective if Allah wills it will happen but then i dont deserve to be treated as an option in this office? What i mean is if they dont want me for whatever reason they should tell me not make me wait to see if they can get someone better. Its unfair. Its times like this i feel allah is not around and these stupid people have control over my life.. if that makes sense.

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Its times like this i feel allah is not around and these stupid people have control over my life.. if that makes sense.

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Er....no...on both counts!

So you think if i dont get the job its Allahs will?

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Hi - i do try to see it from the perspective if Allah wills it will happen but then i dont deserve to be treated as an option in this office? What i mean is if they dont want me for whatever reason they should tell me not make me wait to see if they can get someone better. Its unfair. Its times like this i feel allah is not around and these stupid people have control over my life.. if that makes sense.

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I think you have forgotten about the signs of the end times. The world will be FILLED with corrupt/injustice. I do not think that the place where you work will stay free from corruption/injustice.

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So you think if i dont get the job its Allahs will?

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NOTHING happens what Allah does not want .

"And they followed [instead] what the devils had recited during the reign of Solomon. It was not Solomon who disbelieved, but the devils disbelieved, teaching people magic and that which was revealed to the two angels at Babylon, Harut and Marut. But the two angels do not teach anyone unless they say, "We are a trial, so do not disbelieve [by practicing magic]." And [yet] they learn from them that by which they cause separation between a man and his wife. But they do not harm anyone through it except by permission of Allah . And the people learn what harms them and does not benefit them. But the Children of Israel certainly knew that whoever purchased the magic would not have in the Hereafter any share. And wretched is that for which they sold themselves, if they only knew." Qur'an 2:102

You have done what is within your limits and if it does not happen, then it is indeed NOT destined for you. When one does not do whatever is within their limits, well Allah does not change your situation when you do not try everything within your capacity.

Ok so i can fully believe that Allah is in control and what he wills will happen. Instead of the fact that these idiots here will not give me the job because they want someone that will mix in well with them.

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Ok so i can fully believe that Allah is in control and what he wills will happen. Instead of the fact that these idiots here will not give me the job because they want someone that will mix in well with them.

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Please do NOT call them "idiots". A Muslim should NEVER talk about other people badly even if you dislike them, because a Muslim does not cause harm to others even with words. Do remember there is truth and there is harm. When speaking the truth but somebody dislikes it, that is not harm to them. However saying idiot, is not rather any constructing feedback towards them rather just a insult. We Muslim do not insult others even if they insult us as insulting back is also harming.

It could be that indeed they want somebody with the same mentality. Do remember often when some company is looking for a person, the hidden part they are looking for is FAR more important than being qualified for the job. I mean if you have a person who is not very social, although is excellent with his job, does not really fit in to the team of people. Being social towards our colleagues is a VERY important if not the most important part. Sadly these days as sheytan is ruler of the world of today by having corruption spread to every aspect of life, it is hard for Muslims to stick to their Islamic principles. So you either have to join them or you can abstain from it.

I do believe however that one can change people by bringing out their fitrah although they might being people of other faiths including atheists. To be able to do this is rather change your core and not behave like they do. What i mean by this is, when they act arrogant, you rather be loving. When they put you down with others, you try to speak in private with the individual that has put you down with others and make it clear to him/her that you respect him and it is not nice to put each other down in front of others. They will even respect you more, as people with principles have almost died out these days. Show them you are the flashlight in the dark cave (ie Muslim Character). Tip: Study human psychology to be able to do this and off course always make dua for sabr (being patient)

So your saying all i can do is sabar and have hope that everything will work out for the best.

And when someone upsets me or hurts me i can only pray god guides them.

Greetings and peace be with you xa_xa_ft;

And when someone upsets me or hurts me i can only pray god guides them.

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I have put in my fifty years of work, and I am still working part time now. I can only say the majority of jobs I have done have just been a grind. We do not get to choose the people we work with, and we do not get to choose the boss we work under, we are just paid to do something. I learned long ago to just try and do the best I can, and to put up with all the unfairness, backbiting and squabbling that often goes on in the workplace. We get paid because we do something that we would not normally want to do voluntarily.

If you are to pray, then maybe pray for patience, kindness the wisdom, strength and the peace to do the will of Allah. Pray that you might be a blessing to those you work with and ask Allah to bless them too.

In the spirit of praying to a just and merciful God,
Eric

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So your saying all i can do is sabar and have hope that everything will work out for the best.

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And when someone upsets me or hurts me i can only pray god guides them.

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Iyad ibn Himar reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, Allah has revealed to me that you should be humble, such that none of you transgresses or boasts against another.” I said, “O Messenger of Allah, what do you think about a man who reviles me in a lowly assembly and I respond to him; am I sinful?” The Prophet said, “Two people who revile each other are like two devils accusing and denying each other.”

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Always respond with which is better. Based on my observations and pondering about the results and my behavior in both the situations (responding with the same..ie insulting back or responding with wisdom, calmness and respect) i have concluded that indeed responding with wisdom, calmness and respect although that individual insulted you, one achieves more.

What am i talking about?

Let's say somebody insults me in a gathering, by responding with good back, people in the gathering will respect you even more because they see somebody that responds with patient and wisdom, also that individual that insulted you might even learn from your response. If they have even a ounce of of fitrah left in them, they will see and understand your response. They will see that they themselves are the transgressors and people by default (according to their fitrah) acknowledge when they have done bad and regret immediately. Be the constructor of relationships between people and yourself not the destroyer. Remember, people with principles and wisdom have almost vanished from the face of the earth these days. The most impatient and disgusting people are the elderly these days if you ask me (majority of them). Why do i say this? When somebody has lived their life, gaining life experience one should have learned from it and been shaped to be the best amount people. To be role models as they have taken the time during their lives to KNOW and UNDERSTAND what is important (character, wisdom, patience, fear of Allah), while these days the elderly LESS patient, have LESS wisdom, practice the deen as a routine thing, what comes out of their mouths is mostly rubbish (politics, money, women, boasting, arrogance, pride..)

This indeed can also be explained. Every process consists of three activities.

Input --> Processing --> Output

In the past when somebody had a conversation with you (Input) you thought about what you just gained as knowledge (processing). After processing you could wring the wisdom out of it (Output). Thus every piece of information that you gained was processed and the output was given. Thus after so many years through out their lives one had ONLY output left..(ie wisdom and patient).

These days, when somebody does not talk to you (input), somebody is listening to music (input), when that does not happen, one is watching tv (input), when that is not happening, one is sleeping. Thus somebody is being programmed as there is no time left to process the input. Which as outcomes means, there is not wisdom to be made.

All im saying is that when ive applied for the position within the company why look for other candidates and not tell me whether or not i got the job? Thats just lame. Its broken my heart.

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All im saying is that when ive applied for the position within the company why look for other candidates and not tell me whether or not i got the job? Thats just lame. Its broken my heart.

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Through out ones life you will notice people have some mentality that you cannot find any reason for it to exist, however the reality is it does exist. What i mean by that is they have 1000 reasons to not hire you for that, although every one of those 1000 reasons might be illogical, irrational and unreasonable, but that is the issue, these days people do not abide by logic, rationality and reason. Rather they abide by "feelings".

Do not desire to want something except that which brings you closer to Allah. Try to not desire for example more money, UNLESS you planning to let's say give away 90% in sadaq so to say. (10.000 euro a month leaving 1000 euro left for you to live a humble life). As money is also a test for a person. That is for example if you ask me a GOOD intention to want something.

Its hard not to desire for things in life. I guess Allah is testing me. I will just raise my hands to him and ask for the best.