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xboxisdead
04-07-2018, 03:52 PM
“Every 3.24 minutes, a dad acts like a buffoon.”

That’s the conclusion of a small study done by a student at Brigham Young University after watching eight hours of the two most popular Disney “tween” shows featuring families. The results of the research — “Daddies or Dummies?” — are not particularly surprising.

Are “Good Luck Charlie” and “Girl Meets World” any different from previous sitcoms like “Roseanne” or “Home Improvement”? A 2001 study by Erica Scharrer in the Journal of Broadcasting & Electronic Media found that the number of times a mother told a joke at the father’s expense increased from 1.80 times per episode in the 1950s to 4.29 times per episode in 1990.

But what’s interesting about the new research is that the author, Savannah Keenan, also looked at the reaction of the children on screen to their fathers’ displays of cluelessness. At least half the time, children reacted “negatively” to these displays — by rolling their eyes, making fun of Dad, criticizing him, walking away while he’s talking or otherwise expressing their annoyance.

This behavior, especially on Disney shows, has become the norm to such a degree that parents regularly tell me they don’t allow their children to watch the channel. There’s no sex or violence — but there’s only so many times they want their children to watch their counterparts on screen ignore, insult or pretend to humor their parents for laughs.

We should probably be most concerned when dads are the butt of the joke. Decades ago, when the place of men in the family and in the work world was clear, the use of comedy to make the powerful powerless was understandable and helped lighten the mood by humanizing the authority figure.

Sure, kids tried to put one over on their fathers and sometimes they got away with it. But there was a sense that a father’s authority was something you had to work to get around. And that doing so came with real consequences.

Whether you were the teenage girl trying to sneak out on a date with the wrong boy or you were a kid who got caught breaking a vase when you were playing ball in the house and then lying about it, it was Dad’s rules and Dad’s wrath that you feared the most.

Today’s sitcoms, by contrast, often show dads trying to act like mothers have traditionally — and failing miserably. In an episode of “Black-ish,” the mother and father learn that they haven’t been saving as much money as they should have. The father, played by Anthony Anderson, was supposed to be in charge of the finances.

Not only does he prove to be an incompetent money manager, his wife, played by Tracee Ellis Ross, also says that if he doesn’t get his act together, then he’s going to have to start dealing with the children’s lives more — taking them to doctor appointments, worrying about their schedules, etc. — a fate he seems to fear more than death.

Not only has Anderson failed in his traditionally male role, but the assumption is that he would be a total disaster performing his wife’s duties.

He comes off looking like an idiot, and his wife — even though she acknowledges that she doesn’t like to do the family budgeting — looks like superwoman. She’s an Ivy League-educated surgeon running a house with four kids. All she wanted was her husband to be putting aside money for college, and he couldn’t even manage that.

Maybe the problem isn’t simply that men are portrayed as bumbling. Women in popular culture — and also in journalism — are portrayed as the people who can do it all. They’re showing how it’s possible to juggle careers and children, all without missing a beat. Can you imagine a popular comedy in which a woman really is falling down on the job?

The sitcom “Mom” offers viewers this contrast. Allison Janney is the aging recovering addict, a mother who did everything possible to screw up her daughter’s life. But the daughter is managing to raise children of her own, hold down a job, keep her mother’s predilections in check and even date occasionally. She’s got this all covered.

In a recent episode of “Girl Meets World,” the father, Cory, played by Ben Savage, tells his daughter and her friend that a fight between Superman and Batman wouldn’t be fair because one has superpowers and the other one doesn’t. His wife, Topanga, played by Danielle Fishel, gives the punch line: “Sort of like when you and I fight.”

The question is if women are really superwomen, how are men supposed to be anything but buffoons?

https://nypost.com/2016/06/14/how-di...empt-for-dads/
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Misbah-Abd
04-07-2018, 04:52 PM
How long did it take for you to type all that? I can see that this is your forte. Let me give you some advice. Keep it succinct because ain't nobody gonna read all that.
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xboxisdead
04-07-2018, 05:12 PM
The sisters will be able to read all that, perhaps not the brothers.
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Misbah-Abd
04-07-2018, 06:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
The sisters will be able to read all that, perhaps not the brothers.
They might read it but they will only refute it like they have in the past with these rambling posts of yours.
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xboxisdead
04-07-2018, 07:08 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
They might read it but they will only refute it like they have in the past with these rambling posts of yours.
What they do with it is not my business.
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czgibson
04-08-2018, 01:23 PM
Greetings,

It's not hugely surprising to learn that men in TV shows more frequently act like buffoons than women. I'm not sure how this is a problem though? It's a fairly accurate reflection of real life in my family!

format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
How long did it take for you to type all that? I can see that this is your forte. Let me give you some advice. Keep it succinct because ain't nobody gonna read all that.
If you're not used to reading, that might seem like a long text. It's a pretty typical length for an article though. I doubt it was typed too. Copy and paste is more likely.

Peace
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cinnamonrolls1
04-08-2018, 10:11 PM
The article does have a point.
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Re.TiReD
04-09-2018, 12:52 AM
Honestly, has anybody ever watched Peppa Pig with their children? It’s ridiculous how the dad is portrayed as dumb and lazy. In one episode they were learning about vegetables and had to draw one, the main character drew her father because she saw him as a ‘couch potato’. These are shows aimed at 3+ year olds. Downright disrespectful. Needless to say, I soon put a stop to Peppa Pig in our house but why is there even a need for fathers to be portrayed in such a way?!
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xboxisdead
04-09-2018, 03:16 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson
Greetings,

It's not hugely surprising to learn that men in TV shows more frequently act like buffoons than women. I'm not sure how this is a problem though? It's a fairly accurate reflection of real life in my family!


Peace
It sounds like your family is identical to my grandma's situation. But you see here is the thing, while my grandpa is an idiot buffoon and weak of character and my grandma kicked his ass every single day and dominated him and stepped on him like a squished bug, my grandma was not happy. She was miserable. Everyone felt sorry for her and felt she suffered and was a victim. Personally, me? I do not. You know why I do not feel sorry for her or felt she is a victim? Because she choose him. Everyone told her to not marry him, he is not good in the mental department, he is slow in the head, he is weak and an idiot. She fought tooth and nail to marry him. Her sister married a smart man and lived richer life than my grandma. You see, women have the power to choose. She choose him.

Your mom whom married your dad and your dad is slow in the head the fault goes to your mother and not your father. Women who choose weak men, women who choose men of mental deficiency, of inferior intellect do it because it makes them feel good about themselves. They LOVE to lure it on their men that they are smarter than their men, better than their men, SUPERWOMAN and he is a weakling, peasant and of lesser than her...because she herself have complete insecurity about herself. By making her man feel a subordinate, unnecessary, redundant, inferior, lack of intellect, stupid, useless it makes her feel all powerful, strong, better, smarter than him and he have to obey her.

Last I checked in the animal kingdom the female bird or any female creature picks the best male of the best gene. You see in the animal kingdom the female want a man to be superior over her in every ounce of way, in the animal kingdom she wants the male to be better than her in intellect, in memory, in beauty, in whatever in the animal kingdom that animal thinks is the best gene to mate and she mates with that super male in hopes that super gene will be imprinted in her offspring and the weaker, inferior male goes instinct and all the best gene moves on. In terms of birds the most beautiful bird get to mate, the one that does the best dance, the one that is best to make sure he can protect the egg in winter, for the dogs the dominant male is the one to get to mate with the female. The weaker less dominant, less aggressive male the male that will not willing to die or get hurt in battle and win the battle will not mate with the female dog.

When we live in a society that glorifies female dominance and glorify female superiority and have media teach boys that this is the norm and then have articles and articles shaming boys for being boys and using history showing how bad women treated to justify women should now be in lead and it is about time women to take over the world and have laws to remove any incentive for males to achieve better at school and get married all together what we are making here is a formula for break up of marriage and breakup of family and separation of social gender all together. Let me explain to you the nature of women for a second.

Women marry up. Simple. WOMEN not little girls here, WOMEN marry up. Women want men to be better than them in every way even in intelligence, memory, comprehension and guess guess...maturity. Women by nature want mature men, not little boys. Women by nature want men to have A+ at school and have long time job and money and be responsible and be able to provide physically, spiritually, financially to the family she in hopes will have with him. She wants to know that this man will protect her and her family she will have with him, she wants to know that this man take responsibility and initiative, will be able to raise the children with her, will bring home the "bacon" sorta to speak. If she finds that majority of men around her are the drones, who sit home and she goes out to make money and he is a buffoon, an idiotic moron....she will recent him. She will hate him. She will disrespect him. She will step all over him. She will feel victim here. She will feel oppressed. She feels he is unnecessary and what is his role here and what is his use here. Big reason why Allah assigned men and not women to the leader and provider and protector and why Allah commanded the women to obey her husband and why she keeps her money to herself and his money is their money. There is a reason to this. Allah knows what he created. He knows the nature of women. Women's nature you see here now in 2018 have not changed since first woman Allah created from the rip of Adam. You can see all these thousands of years and her nature is 100% the same..no evolution or change.

In your case brother, your mother picked him as a husband and your father if you need to blame anyone..blame your mother. Sorry to say.

Also understand, I do not blame the men in the West for how they are. I blame society and feminism and these lesbian, women imitating men society that bread such men. I blame women who go have sex with men without marriage and have her son raised in a feminized society without any male role model or a father to look up too or provide her son with a lineage name or lineage or interaction with a male figure. I blame school that put all focus on girls and have waged war on boys. I blame society who do not care what happens to boys and glorify female supremacy. This bred men like your father mate. Sorry to say, it did not help in breeding healthy men. Now if people are happy with this setting and feel this is normal then I have nothing to say but smile and say whatever makes you happy :). I hope your mother and father have a happy life where your mother wears the pant. Just make sure you understand it is your mother and not your father who is both the mom and dad and superwoman and you have to look up to her and not your father. You need to be opposite of your father and everything like your mom. :)

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format_quote Originally Posted by Re.TiReD
Honestly, has anybody ever watched Peppa Pig with their children? It’s ridiculous how the dad is portrayed as dumb and lazy. In one episode they were learning about vegetables and had to draw one, the main character drew her father because she saw him as a ‘couch potato’. These are shows aimed at 3+ year olds. Downright disrespectful. Needless to say, I soon put a stop to Peppa Pig in our house but why is there even a need for fathers to be portrayed in such a way?!
Because when children learn to disrespect their father and glorify their mother, to make children know and feel fathers are unnecessary and useless and the mom is the super women it helps in real life situation where a divorce happens it can be justified why women only should have full custodial rights and fathers only purpose is to pay child support and no one in society not the children, mother and anyone would care if she cut ties between children and father and the good dads who crying for their rights will be muted by everyone. People and court will say, mothers are better suited at raising children, fathers cannot raise children and we will use science to justify it by saying women have two sides of the brain light up while men have only one side of the brain light up, thus men are inferior in intellect and not suitable to raising children.

It is a very convincing, isn't it? Children also grow up disrespecting their father and the one with the final say is the mother alone and when women dominate also in the house hold where husband must obey their wives and husbands are terrified to anger their wives and they cower like little children, women are the one to wear the pants, the children follow her like baby chicks and the husband is at the back seat to obey and submit. Pretty much the perfect incentive for me NOT TO GET MARRIED AND TELL every man out there AVOID MARRIAGE at all cost. Men..do...not....get....married. You WILL suffer. Yesterday, wallahi, Allah is my witness and after Allah my mom saw me and I did it right in front of her. I raised my hand high and with my inner heart I thanked Allah at the bottom of my heart and I said, "AL-HAMDILILLAH I AM NOT MARRIED!" and I thanked Allah like ten times and repeated Al-hamdillilah, Al-hamdolillah and I will say it here, "AL-HAMDOLILLAH I AM NOT MARRIED AND I DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN!!" . This is what I saw through the window. A Philippine woman screaming at her husband, pointing finger at him and shouting and screaming at him and going on and on and on and on and on and on and on at him wagging her finger. as she is moving toward him.....and he moved back cowering in the corner like a little dog, and their son watching all of this. Excellent image this will bring the son. Perfect, because you see now that boy will marry JUST THAT woman will be emotionally abusive and physically abusive to him..repeating the cycle. Anyways, ones the shouting and shaming is finished, she placed both her hands in her pockets, like a rooster, put her hood on and strutted back home. Her son like a baby chicken followed his mother and her husband came later after a while with a basket looking down like a boy being scolded by his mom. Yeeeeah...beautiful! Very incentive for me to lose all what I have for THAT!

Beeeautifulll!! Nice! Nice! Nice! Nice!
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Re.TiReD
04-09-2018, 11:57 AM
I don’t really think it’s as deep as you say, you sound like a conspiracy theorist. I agree that dads are not always portrayed in the best light but that’s as far as I’ll go in agreeing with you. You need to speak to a professional about your thoughts and feelings surrounding marriage and the roles of men and women. Sounds as though you have some personal issues to resolve. All the best
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cinnamonrolls1
04-09-2018, 12:48 PM
@ op
You seem to be going too in depth about this kinda stuff. Really, practically all your posts are about women/girls. We get it, us women/girls are evil tyrants who want to destroy the fabric of society.
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Tayiba
04-09-2018, 03:14 PM
:sl: this was very amusing to me sorry, granted :ia: you will marry someday and realize the rewards, blessings and even beauty it holds to be a married man that has a caring, loving wife and partner. Men may be inferior or weaker than woman mentally as I think you have mentioned, though that is not always the case or entirely so. But you must know that our greatest Prophet and Beloved of Allah the Messenger :saws: married and his women could also express their feelings i.e. jealousy etc. but that did not make our prophet any less of a man. He was the best and Blessed ever upon mankind. We take inspiration and lessons from his life and the beautiful qualities in which his wives have now, for men and women.

I found this awesome hadith; Narrated by Anas bin Malik
A group of three men came to the houses of the wives of the Prophet asking how the Prophet worshipped (Allah), and when they were informed about that, they considered their worship insufficient and said, "Where are we from the Prophet as his past and future sins have been forgiven." Then one of them said, "I will offer the prayer throughout the night forever." The other said, "I will fast throughout the year and will not break my fast." The third said, "I will keep away from the women and will not marry forever." Allah's Apostle came to them and said, "Are you the same people who said so-and-so? By Allah, I am more submissive to Allah and more afraid of Him than you; yet I fast and break my fast, I do sleep and I also marry women. So he who does not follow my tradition in religion, is not from me (not one of my followers)." sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 72 #1


Females may not all be actual superwomen but they do carry their spouse children for 9 months, endure child labor and the extra love and effort dedicated to the kids. They are very feeling and do care for their life-partner husband and enjoy all the good nd joy it brings, you cannot entirely compare them to the motherhood and femininity animal birds or polar bears have for instance, because humankind are the crown of creations. And the caring Muslim woman will treat you as Islam teaches, :ia: so please dont be too persistent in remaining unmarried such as for the rest of your elderly years i.e. 80+ and there is nothing to be frightened about at all.. Maybe it is your calling to focus and bring more attention to your interests, hobbies etc. and Allah will show you later when it is the perfect time for you as well. The more you care and focus on your 'perfect incentive' you may see through only* in that light and lose sight of the actual reality and truth marriage is. Let us say al-hamdulilla for everything and what He could bless you with in future.

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Edit: also pls take a second look at the hadith I added, its certainly a great one masha Allah
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xboxisdead
04-09-2018, 06:51 PM
Unfortunately, I am broken. Result of society construct where all men are evil and all women are good. I am a damaged good. Because I do not hate women and don't want evil intend happen to them, I am protecting them by not marrying me. I am not marriage material anymore. I cannot give her, her rights and the last thing I want to do is harm a sister where her family went through so much to raise her and take good care of her and then she end up with a person like me. They say that every man have his soulmate. Well if my soulmate is out there to forget me and to find a strong man who can give her all her rights. I have lived with my mom all my life and never had a male role model at all and my dad died when I was a little boy. Then I left middle east and came to the West where they bash men day in and day night all day long and seek female dominance and superimacy that formed me the way I am. I am not going to change or able to change at all so I am not fit for marriage and I am ok with it, really. I have my brothers and my mom to live with and as I age older and older whatever marriage desire disappears even more and more. I do not have the maturity for marriage or the responsibility instilled in me to be able to get married or handle marriage or stay in marriage (in the end the wife will step all over me and repeat cycle and I refuse to be dominated at or told what to do. The second the wife would raise her voice at me or wag her finger at me or shout at me I will run back home, and send divorce papers and go through legality and done. I will not stay one second when dealing with verbal abuse. Sorry. If she is pregnant and acted bad at me I will leave her and disappear from her sight and let her raise the kids alone. I am not fit and best I do not open a door I cannot handle). As I was never taught by a male figure what marriage is all about because I never had one, I have never seen an example of how wife and husband act, was never taught Islamically how to act and even if I read ahadith it is hard for me to instill it at this age when it should have being second hand nature when taught to me as a little boy, you best make dua I never do get married. I am protecting the sisters from me.

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Tayiba
04-10-2018, 02:23 PM
One does not know what's good for him unless he tries and trusts in Allah. May Allah make everything easy and bless a good marriage with an aware, caring and content wife for you, :ia:
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czgibson
04-10-2018, 03:02 PM
Greetings,

format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
You need to be opposite of your father and everything like your mom.
You have made an enormous number of assumptions about what my mother and father are like, despite knowing basically nothing about them. My father is in fact a very impressive man in several different ways. I can't imagine anyone doing a better job of being a father than he has, and I admire him immensely. He also has an excellent sense of humour; that's all I was referring to earlier.

Peace
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Misbah-Abd
04-10-2018, 04:40 PM
xboxisdead, you need to stop putting so much focus what you perceive is unfair treatment of men due to women or society. You are here for one purpose, to worship Allah. Your goal is Paradise, so utilize your time and effort and obtaining beneficial knowledge and righteous actions to get you there. These posts of your suggests a lot of obsessed time wasted that are only demoralizing you, i.e. "I am damaged goods" "I'm not marriage material anymore" and feeling that you have to "protect sisters from me". Stop for a moment and ask yourself, "Is all this time and effort helping me get to point A to point B?" Because I don't think its working for you.
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xboxisdead
04-10-2018, 05:49 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
xboxisdead, you need to stop putting so much focus what you perceive is unfair treatment of men due to women or society. You are here for one purpose, to worship Allah. Your goal is Paradise, so utilize your time and effort and obtaining beneficial knowledge and righteous actions to get you there. These posts of your suggests a lot of obsessed time wasted that are only demoralizing you, i.e. "I am damaged goods" "I'm not marriage material anymore" and feeling that you have to "protect sisters from me". Stop for a moment and ask yourself, "Is all this time and effort helping me get to point A to point B?" Because I don't think its working for you.
Well I will be accounted for how I treat the sisters when I marry one of them and you know what, rightfully so. If I know I will not be able to be the man of the house and give her right it is best I do not marry her period and let her either be treated the way she deserves to be treated by her family or by a man who can give her what I can't. I already am failing in protecting myself and improving myself how do you expect a person like me to take care of someone else. Sorry. I would rather have die virgin, single and no family than harm someone else because of my incompetence. I am too old to change mind you. The amount of white hair in my head supercede the black hire and I am 38 year old. Old. Old.

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format_quote Originally Posted by czgibson
Greetings,



You have made an enormous number of assumptions about what my mother and father are like, despite knowing basically nothing about them. My father is in fact a very impressive man in several different ways. I can't imagine anyone doing a better job of being a father than he has, and I admire him immensely. He also has an excellent sense of humour; that's all I was referring to earlier.

Peace
Sorry. I assumed wrong because you said your family is like the sitcom in TV and those have no positive image to fathers and husband and usually those men are buffon who will hit the wall when they walk and can't even know how to pee alone. My mistake :hiding:

This is a very strong message this guy is saying right here:

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سيف الله
04-10-2018, 10:50 PM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by Misbah-Abd
xboxisdead, you need to stop putting so much focus what you perceive is unfair treatment of men due to women or society. You are here for one purpose, to worship Allah. Your goal is Paradise, so utilize your time and effort and obtaining beneficial knowledge and righteous actions to get you there. These posts of your suggests a lot of obsessed time wasted that are only demoralizing you, i.e. "I am damaged goods" "I'm not marriage material anymore" and feeling that you have to "protect sisters from me". Stop for a moment and ask yourself, "Is all this time and effort helping me get to point A to point B?" Because I don't think its working for you.
As hard as this advice is Bro Misbah is right, you need a bit of this



I actually agree with you on some points, the destruction of the family system particularly in modern societies has led to dysgenic outcomes. Compare and contrast with traditional (Islamic) societies where you have at least a standard of behaviour.

Dont let the media poison your mind.

Having said that the behaviours your displaying are not attractive to women, you have to be manly, masculine, like somebody else said

A man does not have to be good looking, just fit, energetic, confident, productive, and goal oriented. Those are the characteristics that will make any man attractive to just about any woman.
I think your going through your 5 stages of grief. It can be hard when reality hits, its painful, its nasty but you will get through it eventually.

Remember our history the Prophet and his companions, did they have it easy? Did they complain all the time?



If you need help on how to handle women etc, come to brothers section or if you need proper advice there are plenty of books that are compatible with Islam that can help you get through your predicament.

And dont forget there are plenty of Good well brought up women out their, you just have to look.

Were here to help you don't give up :statisfie.
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xboxisdead
04-10-2018, 11:56 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



As hard as this advice this Bro Misbah is right, you need a bit of this



I actually agree with you on some points, the destruction of the family system particularly in modern societies has led to dysgenic outcomes. Compare and contrast with traditional (Islamic) societies where you have at least a standard of behaviour.

Dont let the media poison your mind.

Having said that the behaviours your displaying are not attractive to women, you have to be manly, masculine, like somebody else said



I think your going through your 5 stages of grief. It can be hard when reality hits, its painful, its nasty but you will get through it eventually.

Remember our history the Prophet and his companions, did they have it easy? Did they complain all the time?



If you need help on how to handle women etc, come to brothers section or if you need proper advice there are plenty of books that are compatible with Islam that can help you get through your predicament.

And dont forget there are plenty of Good well brought up women out their, you just have to look.

Were here to help you don't give up :statisfie.
You know what? I will do that! ;D I will linger in the brothers section. I seriously need masculine influence and be surrounded by brothers to recharge myself. There is no place for a man in the West and all feminized it does literally destroy you as a man, to have a place where Muslim brothers can meet everyday is very needed healing process. I will be posting there majority of the time until my characters are all fixed up or at least majority of the time Insha'Allah. :D
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Misbah-Abd
04-11-2018, 12:38 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
You know what? I will do that! ;D I will linger in the brothers section. I seriously need masculine influence and be surrounded by brothers to recharge myself. There is no place for a man in the West and all feminized it does literally destroy you as a man, to have a place where Muslim brothers can meet everyday is very needed healing process. I will be posting there majority of the time until my characters are all fixed up or at least majority of the time Insha'Allah. :D
I will be joining you Insha Allah in that forum but have to wait another 3 months before I am qualified. We can shoot the breeze with man talk.

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You also have to have at least 200 posts besides being a member for 6 months. So you have another 79 posts to go xboxisdead. Please keep them short and about something other than man oppression...;D
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سيف الله
04-12-2018, 07:58 PM
Salaam

Remember the good old days.



If they made a show like this now, liberals and feminists would likely have mental breakdowns :p.
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xboxisdead
04-12-2018, 09:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Remember the good old days.



If they made a show like this now, liberals and feminists would likely have mental breakdowns :p.
Daaamn....just that 50 second clip and I find peace when men and women played their role and men was the head of the household and fathers where respected....oooh phewwww...there is just something.....right in that setting. Something correct...something natural, even to the mental mind of a person and both genders knew their roles and respected and there was no boundaries being crossed. WOW :facepalm: Even the woman in that video looked like a "lady". Damn, damn, damn how things were different!!! Sons were not looked at buffon's and immature but they where masculine that were loved and respected and was considered a balance to the feminine trait. Boys where appraised for growing up to be a husband one day and a father a provider and a protector, positive attributes that was exclusive to the male gender alone and there were boundaries that stopped female wanting to proof they can do the same as men and even better thus breaking the balance of the sexes. So much destruction to the mental and health of the new generation when gender role where eliminated, when feminist toke effect and when men no longer played their role and when female is stepping on the male's role and attempting to take over. So much destruction occurred when masculinity is no longer respected but spit on and thrown to the garbage, when boys now wish to mutilate themselves and castrate themselves to look like females or dress and act like females, when girls try to compete against men ...... Now men no longer know what their roles are, women are in the street wearing tight cloth and being nude, children by the millions are born orphan (single mothers only or raised by mothers only)....no wonder we have angry new generation and warped up mind. Things are getting worse and worse.:facepalm:
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Misbah-Abd
04-12-2018, 10:32 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

Remember the good old days.



If they made a show like this now, liberals and feminists would likely have mental breakdowns :p.
Yep, back when the husband could go to work and provide with one income while the wife stayed home and took care of the house and kids.
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Abz2000
04-13-2018, 05:53 AM
One of the best known cases of stimulus generalization is that of Little Albert. In 1913, psychologist John Watson conducted an experiment to see if he could instill a fear of little white lab rats into an infant. This infant was Little Albert, who was naturally afraid of loud noises, but not white rats. In fact, he was initially very eager to pet the white rat. In order to develop the fear, Watson would bang a hammer on a steel bar to create a loud noise every time Little Albert tried to pet the rat. After Watson did this several times, Little Albert began to cry from only seeing the white rat.

Watson ended the experiment then, since he succeeded in creating this fear; however, the conditioning process did not end for Little Albert. He began to experience stimulus generalization, and his fear of white rats spread to other animals that were white, including rabbits. It got to the point that anything white and furry frightened him, even a white fur coat. This case is a classic example not only of stimulus generalization, but one of the early cases documenting how humans can be classically conditioned as well as animals.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/sti...sson-quiz.html

Stimulus generalization:

https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is...zation-2795885



It is the same divide and conquer strategy we continually see in the secular democratic political sphere where certain individuals are able to expend the energies of one group against another based on selfishness and fear. In this way, these corrupt individuals are able to deflect attention and energy from themselves and their actions and aims, and are easily able to unleash around a half of the population on another in order to defend themselves - since all of these individuals in such baseless and vain groupings are often bitter and ready to sabotage each others rights and fruits of labour in the spirit of bravado and competition.

I see the effect the secularist ngo's have on the less aware women and men in society and how they create an atmosphere where the individual is made to feel under attack under various guises and then led along by the hand and free banner to involvement in a wide and dark scheme, schemes such as those outlined and touched upon in the global population reduction memo "national memorandum 200" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nati...Memorandum_200

The individual who was a member of the wider family who claimed to have "liberated" india from the British government, and who also happened to be prominent members of the same group to which king george, george washington, and other heirs of the financier class British East India Company family fortunes - belonged, and who eagerly implemented national memorandum 200 in india is a classic example of model programming towards global ruin.

I have noticed that individuals in these groups often have a very low level of positive knowledge
about Islam and God given rights, a very high level of disinformation and badly twisted information is programmed on a very superficial level until it is steered to the false notion of self preservation. These people see themselves initially as socializing innocent victims whilst joining the 3 minutes hate gatherings which attempt to make God look like an evil and distant tyrant via leading and indirect stimulus generalisations -all without any real strong and informed argument or admission as to the actual aims of the financiers behind the well paid organizers who get free laptops, offices, and staff, and petty cash, and other "mismanagement" cash, and influence, and connections.
Any acute businessperson in what is sometimes referred to as developing countries is aware that controlling government organizations and opening ngos are amongst the quickest ways to get rich quick - possibly second and third only to banking (if you are given actual stats).


It is an interesting study though, how people concerned with selfish vanities in the name of self preservation can so easily have a wedge pushed between them to the extent that they willingly throw away any sense of fairness and justice, come down from the court that gives them everything they have including feeling, hearing, and seeing, along with just and well tempered rights - whilst learning to ignore the fact that they are being played by people who do not have their best interests at heart but are very interested in leeching them on a spectacular level regardless of the broken homes, crime, turmoil, and distress caused in the meantime and whilst using them as lawrences of arabia.

As soon as someone defines themselves by narrow definitions such as "male supremacist" or "feminist", and discards JUSTICE simply for the sake of argument as if it is akin to some sort of a sports competition where you simply and casually or fervently select a team to support based on vanities -it is useful to remind them that they are being played by Satan and his allies.

Surah 28. The Story, Stories



1. Ta. Sin. Mim.
2. These are Verses of the Book that makes (things) clear.
3. We rehearse to thee some of the story of Moses and Pharaoh in Truth, for people who believe.
4. Truly Pharaoh elated himself in the land and broke up its people into sections, depressing a small group among them: their sons he slew, but he kept alive their females: for he was indeed a maker of mischief.

5. And We wished to be Gracious to those who were being depressed in the land, to make them leaders (in Faith) and make them heirs,
6. To establish a firm place for them in the land, and to show Pharaoh, Haman, and their hosts, at their hands, the very things against which they were taking precautions.
7. So We sent this inspiration to the mother of Moses: "Suckle (thy child), but when thou hast fears about him, cast him into the river, but fear not nor grieve: for We shall restore him to thee, and We shall make him one of Our apostles."
8. Then the people of Pharaoh picked him up (from the river): (It was intended) that (Moses) should be to them an adversary and a cause of sorrow: for Pharaoh and Haman and (all) their hosts were men of sin.
9. The wife of Pharaoh said: "(Here is) joy of the eye, for me and for thee: slay him not. It may be that he will be use to us, or we may adopt him as a son." And they perceived not (what they were doing)!
10. But there came to be a void in the heart of the mother of Moses: She was going almost to disclose his (case), had We not strengthened her heart (with faith), so that she might remain a (firm) believer.

From Quran, Chapter 28 (The Narration)




49. And they said, "O thou sorcerer! Invoke thy Lord for us according to His covenant with thee; for we shall truly accept guidance."
50. But when We removed the Penalty from them, behold, they broke their word.
51. And Pharaoh proclaimed among his people, saying: "O my people! Does not the dominion of Egypt belong to me, (witness) these streams flowing underneath my (palace)? What! see ye not then?
52. "Am I not better than this (Moses), who is a contemptible wretch and can scarcely express himself clearly?
53. "Then why are not gold bracelets bestowed on him, or (why) come (not) with him angels accompanying him in procession?"
54. Thus did he make fools of his people, and they obeyed him: truly were they a people rebellious (against Allah..

55. When at length they provoked Us, We exacted retribution from them, and We drowned them all.
56. And We made them (a people) of the Past and an Example to later ages.
57. When (Jesus) the son of Mary is held up as an example, behold, thy people raise a clamour thereat (in ridicule)!
58. And they say, "Are our gods best, or he?" This they set forth to thee, only by way of disputation: yea, they are a contentious people.
59. He was no more than a servant: We granted Our favour to him, and We made him an example to the Children of Israel.
60. And if it were Our Will, We could make angels from amongst you, succeeding each other on the earth.

From Quran, Chapter 43


The book "when we were orphans" by kazuo ishiguro is a splendid read for those who like to get an idea of how sophisticated criminals can be in divide and conquer strategy and perceptiin management.
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سيف الله
04-13-2018, 08:50 PM
Salaam

This is touching, you don't see this anymore.

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AllahIsAl-Malik
04-13-2018, 08:57 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Re.TiReD
Honestly, has anybody ever watched Peppa Pig with their children? It’s ridiculous how the dad is portrayed as dumb and lazy. In one episode they were learning about vegetables and had to draw one, the main character drew her father because she saw him as a ‘couch potato’. These are shows aimed at 3+ year olds. Downright disrespectful. Needless to say, I soon put a stop to Peppa Pig in our house but why is there even a need for fathers to be portrayed in such a way?!
It IS part of an agenda. They want to destroy families.
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xboxisdead
04-13-2018, 11:11 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by AllahIsAl-Malik
It IS part of an agenda. They want to destroy families.
I think it is about time we teach boys and tell them they are important and needed in family and fathers and husbands are really, really, really important and that they cannot be replaced.







When we do not keep reminding them that let me tell you that society and the world is making sure to keep reminding them that they are unnecessary and redundant and useless and fathers are unimportant and useless and we do not need men and men are idiots and buffon and moron. Just remember, you live in society now that attempting to marginalise men and fathers so we need to push these boys and make them feel strong and to stand on their own feet. Neglecting your sons by having dads working all day and he have no male role model and by throwing them in TV and computers and video games and sending them to schools that hate boys and wish to make them into girls.....


:nervous::nervous: Just so you know if parents (FATHERS INCLUDED) fail in raising sons do not blame the sons if they are unfit husband and father. Blame THE PARENTS..BLAME THE PARENTS do not blame society..because know this..society have waged war on the men and women and if only you knew! You are in full attack of cold war to destroy family!!
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AllahIsAl-Malik
04-14-2018, 05:59 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
*very long post*
I think you sound like MGTOW. I agree that there is a war on family but I am not a MGTOW and I don't agree with your direction. I think you should tone it down and behave calmly and quit attacking women over and over again. I get the world is a hard place but we have a job to be strong and not lose our cool and not be overly emotional.
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xboxisdead
04-14-2018, 06:28 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by AllahIsAl-Malik
I think you sound like MGTOW. I agree that there is a war on family but I am not a MGTOW and I don't agree with your direction. I think you should tone it down and behave calmly and quit attacking women over and over again. I get the world is a hard place but we have a job to be strong and not lose our cool and not be overly emotional.

Not a mgtow but pointing out that there is a war going in the family and need to be fixed immediately. See this who is a mgtow....I have being hearing them and this is what they are....they do not care about fixing society back, they do not care about fixing family unity, they really do not care about being provider and protector, they do not care about fixing gender roles and some of them prefer the route of homosexuality, transsexual, and have sex with robots (I AM NOT ANY OF THOSE!!!). They are men going their own way. Pretty much focused on self and only self and some prefer to live in a forest on their own with no human connection and others just simply do not care about gender roles let alone marriage or being a parent. Me? I am saying we need to fix this. I am pointing out where things are going wrong and need to be fixed. I want new generations to have a healing process and put emphasis back into proper gender role and respect both genders and their roles and posting videos in which direction we need to go. If I am mgtow...seriously...I would not announce it. See, mgtow post videos for other soon to be mgtow who agree with them and post videos or simply just go on their own away without going to media to get attention of them going on their on way. A mgtow person is a person who is your neighbor who is single, living alone, doing his lawn maw and living his way of life not caring about anything else but his happiness. A mgtow man have no wife or children or connection to his children and lives alone and prefer it this way. Some mgtow men go as far as going vasectomy to insure he never have children ever. I live with my my brothers and my mom. I want gender roles to be fixed. I want family unity to return back. I want society to return back to proper balance between sexes so that children grow up in healthy environment. I sometimes wish to have children and get married on my own and I believe in family unity and would advice men to gt married when society is healed up. Mgtow simply do not really care one way or another they have reprogrammed themselves to be really and truly on their way (some there is no reverse to them @_o)
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AllahIsAl-Malik
04-14-2018, 06:39 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Not a mgtow but pointing out that there is a war going in the family and need to be fixed immediately. See this who is a mgtow....I have being hearing them and this is what they are....they do not care about fixing society back, they do not care about fixing family unity, they really do not care about being provider and protector, they do not care about fixing gender roles and some of them prefer the route of homosexuality, transsexual, and have sex with robots (I AM NOT ANY OF THOSE!!!). They are men going their own way. Pretty much focused on self and only self and some prefer to live in a forest on their own with no human connection and others just simply do not care about gender roles let alone marriage or being a parent. Me? I am saying we need to fix this. I am pointing out where things are going wrong and need to be fixed. I want new generations to have a healing process and put emphasis back into proper gender role and respect both genders and their roles and posting videos in which direction we need to go. If I am mgtow...seriously...I would not announce it. See, mgtow post videos for other soon to be mgtow who agree with them and post videos or simply just go on their own away without going to media to get attention of them going on their on way. A mgtow person is a person who is your neighbor who is single, living alone, doing his lawn maw and living his way of life not caring about anything else but his happiness. A mgtow man have no wife or children or connection to his children and lives alone and prefer it this way. Some mgtow men go as far as going vasectomy to insure he never have children ever. I live with my my brothers and my mom. I want gender roles to be fixed. I want family unity to return back. I want society to return back to proper balance between sexes so that children grow up in healthy environment. I sometimes wish to have children and get married on my own and I believe in family unity and would advice men to gt married when society is healed up. Mgtow simply do not really care one way or another they have reprogrammed themselves to be really and truly on their way (some there is no reverse to them @_o)
Okay. I am all for promoting family.

1- Quit bashing women over and over again

2- Be calm

As long as you go against these- you make your cause look bad. I am all for promoting family but the way is not bashing women constantly, upsetting the women and not being calm.
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سيف الله
04-14-2018, 10:43 AM
Salaam

I agree women should be called out on their bad behaviour but so should men (obviously). But just blaming either side is not going to solve the problems.

It has to be a joint effort to solve the problems between men and women.
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xboxisdead
04-14-2018, 01:05 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam

I agree women should be called out on their bad behaviour but so should men (obviously). But just blaming either side is not going to solve the problems.

It has to be a joint effort to solve the problems between men and women.
I agree also. There is one thing in that video the woman said though I do not agree with her. She said she needs a man to live. No she doesn't. With medical science women can conceive daughters (no sons) until end of time without needing a man. All she needs is another woman's genetic make up and she can have all her babies she wants without needing a man. So if there are group of women who want an Amazon world a world composed of 100% women, I say let her have what she wants (statics shows lesbian relationship are the most violent domestic group of people on planet Earth). Interesting society that will be mind you....a world without men. A world composed of women only. All TV shows and cartoons and games are all women and girls only. Pretty much she will live like crows :D You see in crows they all look the same. So in a world composed of women, they all look the same and they all have the same body parts and shape and they all think alike. Now any Muslimmah sisters want to live in this world herself I am not going to be offended and stop her. It just she have to agree that she throws away the reward of entering paradise from any door she wishes by pleasing her husband in this world and instead live in a world where she only enters paradise from one door. If she is ok with that trade, I am not stopping her. It is her life and her decision she is a grown woman she will be accounted for her actions.

For me? If scientists made it where men can have babies without a mother through another man...I would not do it...only because I want that child to have a mother and only because I want that child to have the Janna underneath the feet of the mother and I do not want to strip that away for my child. I think for the welfare of my child and I want the best for my child.
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