Do a man enter from which ever door in janna if he obeys his wife?

[xboxisdead]

I have this question that is bothering me and I want to get out of my chest. At work a Muslim (Masha'Allah) brother told me in his family the wife is the head of the house hold and the husband just follows along. She does all the decision making up to and including raising the children. She have 100% say in this and all the house decision making, her word is the final word and her law goes. The husband submits to his wife and obeys her. This is world wide where the husband obeys and submits to his wife and the wife does all the decision making. So my question, if I do get married and obey and submit to my wife would I enter any seven doors of jannah for submitting and obeying my wife? I know the Jannah is the under the feet of the mother but do I also get the reward of entering which ever seven doors of Jannah by obeying and submitting to my wife?

If the answer is no...then what is the benefit of obeying and submitting to your wife? Do I get any reward for obeying a wife period?

[Zzz_]

Islam gave each gender separate roles and responsibilities. If he wants to run away from those and wear the skirt and his wife the pants in the house then that's on them.

If this hadith is referring to the nation, do you think it not more pertinent to the family unit, the building block of communities and nations.

"Never will succeed such a nation as lets their affairs carried out by a woman." (Bukhari, Maghazi, 82, Fitan, 18; Tirmidhi, Fitan, 75; Nasai, Qudat, 8; Ahmad b. Hanbal, V, 43, 51, 38, 47).

[xboxisdead]

Islam gave each gender separate roles and responsibilities. If he wants to run away from those and wear the skirt and his wife the pants in the house then that's on them.

If this hadith is referring to the nation, do you think it not more pertinent to the family unit, the building block of communities and nations.

"Never will succeed such a nation as lets their affairs carried out by a woman." (Bukhari, Maghazi, 82, Fitan, 18; Tirmidhi, Fitan, 75; Nasai, Qudat, 8; Ahmad b. Hanbal, V, 43, 51, 38, 47).

Funny thing is...that came close to home too. In my family my grandfather was not very smart and my grandmother married him. She toke all his money when he came back working from home and she treated him like <bleep>. Before his death he was unable to go to the washroom well and he needed help, his daughter treated him like <bleeep> and placed him in the room where maids sleep and he left the world unknown spoken too etc. Will he be punished in the afterlife for not being the man of the house (even though he is not that strong in the mental IQ department) or because what he went through he will get rewarded? I just wanted to know if the man is weak in the mental capacity, weak in the character, never taught in his childhood how to be a man, followed how modern (Western) society taught him how to be a man (which against the gender role assigned in Islam) and so on...will he get reward similar to that of a wife obeying her husband or will he get punished in the afterlife as a dayouth? It is a very important question, because if a husband will be punished as a dayouth in the afterlife (a serious punishment mind you) how many ignorant men who live and die in this state without knowing they are in dangerous zone just because they are of weak character?

Concerning this Ahadeth I was reading in some Islamic site that this applies only to women going to military, that a woman can be a government, leadership at home or outside and a woman can be the leader where men can obey them at work mind you. So many Muslim guys in America says that women can be even better leaders than men running a country. So if a wife can be a better leader than a husband would the husband get rewards for being patient and obedient to his wife?

[azc]

Wife is the most trustworthy friend for a husband, not a head of family

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[xboxisdead]

Wife is the most trustworthy friend for a husband, not a head of family

That maybe in the past. Nowadays they are the head of the family. My only concern if such situation arises where the husband agrees by action or by weak of character and the wife hates the idea to obey the husband or she is highly intelligent and the husband is not, she have more education than him, she is smarter than him and feels that she should do all the decision making or manipulate the husband where does he stand in the afterlife. I mean there many ways a wife can make her husband obey her...I mean there is a book in amazon titled how to train your husband like a dog and so many buy them. So many women feel their husbands are little children or dogs to be trained and she takes bride to have trained her husband to do her bidding.



So many husband get rid of his personal possessions because the wife does not want him to have these around anymore and the husband to avoid causing scene submits or obey her. So would he get any reward by obeying her? I am just wondering. So far I am not getting an answer to that question. I am just getting this is the husband role and that is her role but nowadays it is all in books but in practice we all know who is the head of the household. We all know who wears the pants. We all know who does the decision making. It is the wife and you guys know it.

Personally I do not mind submitting and obeying a wife as long as I get the same reward she would..but if I do not get that then what do a man gets?

[azc]

Islamic rulings are not obsolete and are not subjected to prevalent social trends or values.

Wife as the head of the family and obedience of her husband is against the Islamic family-system.

However, If the wife is ill tempered and husband keeps patience for the sake of Allah, InshaAllah, he is rewarded.

[xboxisdead]

Islamic rulings are not obsolete and are not subjected to prevalent social trends or values.

Wife as the head of the family and obedience of her husband is against the Islamic family-system.

However, If the wife is ill tempered and husband keeps patience for the sake of Allah, InshaAllah, he is rewarded.

One final question and I am done. You are answering my questions and I am learning...alhamdolillah. How does one know the difference between an ill tempered wife where a husband's patience will give him reward over just plain abusive wife, a demeaning wife, a controlling wife, even a feminist wife, or a wife feels she is superior over her husband or just a wife like that video link I posted where she feels her husband is a dog and will find many means and manipulation to manipulate him to her will which forces the husband to be the obedient to his wife?

What about a wife who she makes the life of her husband hell because she wants to be working outside and feel her education wasted at home and feel because she is making more money than him it is the husband's duty to be subservient to her and obey her?

What about situation in the West where the husband knows if he displeases her she can have him arrested for false allegation of rape, abuse and child abuse and sexual abuse of children? So in situations like that a husband better be obedient to her. Because you are aware in the West the ruling is: the husband is obedient to the wife. In the West they have a ruling that says the male is defect in intellect and the female is superior in intellect and such it makes common sense that the male obeys the female and thus the husband have to be subservient to the wife and obey her and pleases her. This is the law of the West. So they make laws and more laws to give more power for the female and strip more and more rights of the male. In the West the female is the superior sex. As such what does a Muslim brother do here in laws where it is stacked against him just because he is born with a Y chromosome? If he enforces his right he will go to prison for any false allegation, she will make a scene have the cops go at him. At such point..he have to be obedient to his wife. What is the ruling there?

[azc]

One final question and I am done. You are answering my questions and I am learning...alhamdolillah. How does one know the difference between an ill tempered wife where a husband's patience will give him reward over just plain abusive wife, a demeaning wife, a controlling wife, even a feminist wife, or a wife feels she is superior over her husband or just a wife like that video link I posted where she feels her husband is a dog and will find many means and manipulation to manipulate him to her will which forces the husband to be the obedient to his wife?

What about a wife who she makes the life of her husband hell because she wants to be working outside and feel her education wasted at home and feel because she is making more money than him it is the husband's duty to be subservient to her and obey her?

What about situation in the West where the husband knows if he displeases her she can have him arrested for false allegation of rape, abuse and child abuse and sexual abuse of children? So in situations like that a husband better be obedient to her. Because you are aware in the West the ruling is: the husband is obedient to the wife. In the West they have a ruling that says the male is defect in intellect and the female is superior in intellect and such it makes common sense that the male obeys the female and thus the husband have to be subservient to the wife and obey her and pleases her. This is the law of the West. So they make laws and more laws to give more power for the female and strip more and more rights of the male. In the West the female is the superior sex. As such what does a Muslim brother do here in laws where it is stacked against him just because he is born with a Y chromosome? If he enforces his right he will go to prison for any false allegation, she will make a scene have the cops go at him. At such point..he have to be obedient to his wife. What is the ruling there?

A pious Muslim should stay away from such ladies...

[xboxisdead]

A pious Muslim should stay away from such ladies...

Kewl! :D Then I am happy to be single in the West. Such "ladies" (I love how you use the word "ladies" to these type of women) are excess amount in the West. Getting married for a man is dangerous and life risking action that could destroy him for life if he end up with such "ladies". Usually such "ladies" tend to play the game well and her true form morph ones she have the key to his house. Thankfully such law does not exist in Canada "yet", but in USA if a man have sex with a woman (regardless of a wife or not) and she agreed that night, she is not drugged, or in alcohol, but next day she regret it (even if it is a wife) or he made her angry the next day and she regret having sex with him yesterday it is constitute rape and she can have him arrested as felony of sexually raping his wife and he can go to prison with criminal record. She can threaten him that she will put him in prison if he does not do what she commands him to do, so he could go to work and she can bruise herself on the face, body, etc and call the cops and say he beat her up. The cops will come to his work and have him arrested for domestic violence, if he have kids he lose all rights to the children, she get to own his home and get him fired. He will have a felony record for life and it is impossible for him to find jobs after that. Those are the rights of a wife over her husband. She can then take his kids, poison them against their father, the kids will hate their father, want nothing to do with the dad and the damage is almost irreversible.

Oh, as a side note. If I do get married and my ex-wife did that to me to attempt to hurt me...don't you worry. Do it. Have the child hate me. As much as I know that the child is being poisoned by you, it does not matter...I will hate the child back. I will curse the child endlessly and I will be his opposing enemy in the afterlife. It does not matter if the child is a girl or a boy. If the mother of the child wants to poison the child against their father, let them succeed and they will succeed. I will make it my obligation for all my prayer to pray against them. In the afterlife I want my right then and this is what I want from them. Their paradise. They can have all my bad deeds and I will take their paradise and I will not look back.

[azc]

^ but wish best for you, bro...