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xboxisdead
10-23-2018, 06:23 PM
About ten years ago, I was standing in my son's junior school classroom. The teacher had stuck up on the wall the best essays on the topic: 'How I Spent Last Weekend.' One caught my attention.

Not for this little boy a visit to the zoo or the excitement of a football game. Instead, he had chronicled a weekend's battle between his divorcing parents.

'Mum calls dad names on the phone,' he had written in his laborious handwriting. 'We had cake for tea. My sister and I cry.' The teacher caught my eye. She had put up that story on purpose.

'I want the parents to see what divorce they are doing to their children. They should be ashamed of themselves,' she said.

My son recently bumped into that little boy. A decade on, he is 18, has dropped out of school and is on drugs.

Sir Nicholas Wall, the President of the Family Division of the High Court, agrees that something has to be done. He has accused separating couples, especially those from the middle classes, of using their children as 'both the battlefield and the ammunition' to try to score points in their personal disputes.

'There is nothing worse, for most children, than for their parents to denigrate each other,' said the country's most senior family court judge. 'The child's sense of self-worth can be irredeemably damaged.'

Six years ago, my husband and I divorced. It came as a great shock. But we were all too aware our children were just becoming adolescents - and that adolescence is perilous enough without warring parents.

We tried, not always successfully on my part, never to criticise each other in front of the children. Very occasionally, I even managed to emphasise his good points (of which there are many) - it was quite hard when at the time all I wanted to do was murder him.

A female friend was shocked. 'Why aren't you using the children against him?' she asked. 'I would.'


Her reaction is not unusual. The battlefields Sir Nicholas Wall describes are too often of the wife's choosing. This is because most divorces are initiated by women due to their husband's infidelity, as the fatherhood research body Fathers Direct points out.

These women are hurt and they want to get their own back through the children, money or both. They are determined the husband is as much divorced from his children as his wife.

One wealthy man I know finds himself, despite his riches, at the beck and call of his former wife.

'How can my wife hurt me? How could she bring me to my knees?' he asks. 'Through my children.'

The strategy is very successful. This otherwise powerful man submits to every capricious demand.

'With just two hours' notice, I had to cancel an important meeting and take them to the dentist,' he said. If he refused, his wife said, he would not see them for a month.

An advertising director found himself equally powerless when his wife suddenly moved from London to the Midlands with their two sons.

'She did not tell me. One day she just stopped answering the phone. Until then I had been seeing my sons every weekend,' he says.

By the time the case reached court, the sons were settled in a new school. The judge admitted that what the woman had done was illegal, but because it was in the best interests of the children to be with their mother, he did nothing.

'She had got away with effectively kidnapping my children,' said the father. His relationship with his sons has all but broken down. Their new home is too far for them to come to London. When he goes to see them, he has to stay in a hotel.

'The children get bored in an hour or two,' he says. 'They have their friends and their sports, which they would rather do instead.'

He tells me he finds the situation 'so goddamn painful. I try to play the role of a father - but how can I when I have been deliberately moved to the periphery of their lives?'

The situation leaves many men I have interviewed distraught. They describe the loss of their children as 'an emotional amputation' or 'a living bereavement'.

It is no wonder that within two years of divorce, half of fathers lose contact with their children.

As one man said sadly, divorce 'leaves many fathers on the edge of a bloody great abyss. Many fall off and are never seen again'.

Douglas Alexiou, one of London's pre-eminent family lawyers, agrees that the wife holds all the cards in a divorce case.

'Court order after court order is served. The wife claims the children are ill or just do not want to see their father,' he says.

'There is very little a court can do if a mother has poisoned the minds of her children against the father. There is no sanction against the mother apart from a jail term - and no court will do that.

'Perhaps one day a judge will be bold enough to jail a mother and finally set an example.'

In all this there is only one real victim - the children. If one of those wives was handed an axe and ordered to hack off a limb of her child, she would be appalled. Yet so many women are happy, even gleeful, to commit the equivalent emotional amputation on their children by depriving them of their father.

U.S. author Kathleen Parker in her excellent book Save The Males points out that in depriving a child of their father, 'we reduce a child's chance of a successful and happy life.

'Growing up without a father is the most reliable indicator of poverty and all the familiar social pathologies affecting children, including drug abuse, truancy, delinquency and sexual promiscuity.'

But this misery is not only the fault of the parents. The family court system is adversarial and encourages couples to fight, says Nadine O'Connor, campaign manager at the lobby group Fathers4Justice.

And change, she says, will be a long time in coming - until lawyers stop making their own killing from warring parents, children will continue to be used as weapons.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...s-divorce.html
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BeTheChange
10-23-2018, 07:43 PM
Heartbreaking. Hot on equal rights but not when it comes to father's rights in raising or even seeing their own children. Both parents are equally needed. Parents who really care about thier children will put they bitter feelings aside and do best for thier children.
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xboxisdead
10-23-2018, 08:29 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by BeTheChange
Heartbreaking. Hot on equal rights but not when it comes to father's rights in raising or even seeing their own children. Both parents are equally needed. Parents who really care about thier children will put they bitter feelings aside and do best for thier children.
Hmm. Insha'Allah next year, me and my brother we are going to start the process of sponsoring a child to live with me ;D :D I will be a guardian to that child and raise him Insha'Allah to be a good Muslim and strong man :D :D I will make my own family and I will gift him with maximum what Islam tells me I am allowed to give him :).

I think there are too many children in the world already and I believe more men should really do it for Allah's pleasure alone and sponsor children and take care of them and give them love where they believe no one loves them. The reward of sponsoring a child is HUGE....HUUGE. In fact from the way I understood the ahadith that sponsoring a child for a man is more rewarding than having his own children and taking care of it. I could be wrong. But what i understood that fathers are just the door of paradise but sponsoring a child every hair of that child IS ENORMOURSE reward when you just put hand on his head with intend of compassion and love. And in additional the prophet put his two fingers like that indicating the entrance of paradise when sponsoring a child.

Personally I am content if fatherhood is destroyed or women toke over the role of fathers, it does not hurt me...it is between her and Allah alone and she will get what her intention and action in the afterlife...she is only hurting herself and mostly her children...so pfft it is her child anyways she can do with them whatever she wants up and including torturing them and slaughtering them and selling them for prostitution. She is not hurting me ;D. More men should stop cowering down on their knees under the terrorism of women....and just go on their away and sponsor children and raise them yourself. Trust me..there is no guarantee your own child will love you and the sponsored child will be the love of your heart :D
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azc
10-24-2018, 02:49 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Hmm. Insha'Allah next year, me and my brother we are going to start the process of sponsoring a child to live with me ;D :D I will be a guardian to that child and raise him Insha'Allah to be a good Muslim and strong man :D :D I will make my own family and I will gift him with maximum what Islam tells me I am allowed to give him :).I think there are too many children in the world already and I believe more men should really do it for Allah's pleasure alone and sponsor children and take care of them and give them love where they believe no one loves them. The reward of sponsoring a child is HUGE....HUUGE. In fact from the way I understood the ahadith that sponsoring a child for a man is more rewarding than having his own children and taking care of it. I could be wrong. But what i understood that fathers are just the door of paradise but sponsoring a child every hair of that child IS ENORMOURSE reward when you just put hand on his head with intend of compassion and love. And in additional the prophet put his two fingers like that indicating the entrance of paradise when sponsoring a child. Personally I am content if fatherhood is destroyed or women toke over the role of fathers, it does not hurt me...it is between her and Allah alone and she will get what her intention and action in the afterlife...she is only hurting herself and mostly her children...so pfft it is her child anyways she can do with them whatever she wants up and including torturing them and slaughtering them and selling them for prostitution. She is not hurting me ;D. More men should stop cowering down on their knees under the terrorism of women....and just go on their away and sponsor children and raise them yourself. Trust me..there is no guarantee your own child will love you and the sponsored child will be the love of your heart :D
Bro, I appreciate your idea of adopting a child but marriage is the best option if your mother or brother or any other relative could find you a good life partner. Don't deprive yourself of the sunnah of prophet :saws:
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xboxisdead
10-24-2018, 03:18 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
Bro, I appreciate your idea of adopting a child but marriage is the best option if your mother or brother or any other relative could find you a good life partner. Don't deprive yourself of the sunnah of prophet :saws:
Why? I have family and I do not need marriage to make a family :D And I AM SO HAPPY been single (not alone) and if I have a sponsored child and be his legal guardian I will be so busy with taking care of him, preparing his food, taking him to school, listening to his troubles and helping him, spending time teaching him and making sure he does good in school, we go out and be friends as well, play sports, play games and talk. I will be teaching him Islam, stories of the prophets, making sure he is in Islamic school and learning Qura'an...I will not be even thinking of marriage or worrying to have my own kids. I will be his guardian and if I get dua from him when I reach old age and he grows to a man...IT WOULD HAVE BEEN the best investment in my life. I am not egocentric wanting to have my own kids. :D There is no guarantee that my own kids even want anything to do with me or they will simply side with the mother against me or they will simply just follow their mother and leave me alone...or be like that man who had so many kids and all of them thrown him to the old home and not one of them even visited him in his grave. If you notice in the youtube comments they all assumed the father is the fault for the behavior of the children...because fatherhood and husband are 10th world citizen. I am not doing it to getting appraisal mind you or get a pad on my back...but I also know that been a guardian to a sponsored kid is the same as been married and having your own kids...but one you have less problem than the other...and one you get more reward doing it.
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MazharShafiq
10-24-2018, 08:14 AM
-Your Baby and Childhas been an international bestseller for almost 40 years – wants us to imagine this because, she says, there-is-an epidemic. It-has-hit more than half of all children by the age of 16 and the damage it causes – though not visible, as a lost limb would be – is just as life-changing and far-reaching. The epidemic is relationship breakup (not marriage breakup because, as she points out, not all parents are married in the first place) and its victims are the children of those relationships.
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سيف الله
10-25-2018, 01:15 AM
Salaam

format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Why? I have family and I do not need marriage to make a family :D And I AM SO HAPPY been single (not alone) and if I have a sponsored child and be his legal guardian I will be so busy with taking care of him, preparing his food, taking him to school, listening to his troubles and helping him, spending time teaching him and making sure he does good in school, we go out and be friends as well, play sports, play games and talk. I will be teaching him Islam, stories of the prophets, making sure he is in Islamic school and learning Qura'an...I will not be even thinking of marriage or worrying to have my own kids. I will be his guardian and if I get dua from him when I reach old age and he grows to a man...IT WOULD HAVE BEEN the best investment in my life. I am not egocentric wanting to have my own kids. :D There is no guarantee that my own kids even want anything to do with me or they will simply side with the mother against me or they will simply just follow their mother and leave me alone...or be like that man who had so many kids and all of them thrown him to the old home and not one of them even visited him in his grave. If you notice in the youtube comments they all assumed the father is the fault for the behavior of the children...because fatherhood and husband are 10th world citizen. I am not doing it to getting appraisal mind you or get a pad on my back...but I also know that been a guardian to a sponsored kid is the same as been married and having your own kids...but one you have less problem than the other...and one you get more reward doing it.
Oh dear.



Come on Xbox bro you've got to get out of this phase.
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xboxisdead
10-25-2018, 02:00 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Junon
Salaam



Oh dear.



Come on Xbox bro you've got to get out of this phase.
You are aware that one of the best Muslim men in the time of the prophet peace be upon where the BRIGHTEST OF NOOR emanating from him as he crosses the bridge in blink of the eye to enter paradise is never married, never have children and even never sponsored one either. I can never be like him...BUT AT LEAST I can sponsor a child to help raise into a great person. Who knows...subhanaAllah...this may be the reason why I will enter paradise.

Remember...having to raise a child on your own makes you more stronger and handle responsibility better and turn you EVEN MORE MATURER than having to depend on another person to do it for you. How many men leave 80% of the child rearing on their wives? I am taking the full responsibility on my own....I am taking the full burden on my own. I have to feed him, check for his health, remember things...I will be forced to grow up in ways I cannot even fathom and in some cases it scares me.......and the reward for taking care of an orphan in the afterlife is huge. I am surprised so many men don't do it when so many children are left to be beaten, killed, molested, abused and felt unloved. Everyone is obsessed to having their DNA in this world. I am just saying...marriage is not everything and having a wife is not always the best thing.
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azc
10-25-2018, 03:06 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Why? I have family and I do not need marriage to make a family :D And I AM SO HAPPY been single (not alone) and if I have a sponsored child and be his legal guardian I will be so busy with taking care of him, preparing his food, taking him to school, listening to his troubles and helping him, spending time teaching him and making sure he does good in school, we go out and be friends as well, play sports, play games and talk. I will be teaching him Islam, stories of the prophets, making sure he is in Islamic school and learning Qura'an...I will not be even thinking of marriage or worrying to have my own kids. I will be his guardian and if I get dua from him when I reach old age and he grows to a man...IT WOULD HAVE BEEN the best investment in my life. I am not egocentric wanting to have my own kids. :D There is no guarantee that my own kids even want anything to do with me or they will simply side with the mother against me or they will simply just follow their mother and leave me alone...or be like that man who had so many kids and all of them thrown him to the old home and not one of them even visited him in his grave. If you notice in the youtube comments they all assumed the father is the fault for the behavior of the children...because fatherhood and husband are 10th world citizen. I am not doing it to getting appraisal mind you or get a pad on my back...but I also know that been a guardian to a sponsored kid is the same as been married and having your own kids...but one you have less problem than the other...and one you get more reward doing it.
How can a MAN live without a WOMAN......?

But......

Sorry to ask you.........
Are you......?
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xboxisdead
10-25-2018, 03:11 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
How can a MAN live without a WOMAN......?

But......

Sorry to ask you.........
Are you......?
Why not go the circus and find me with the other freak of natures out there :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:! And Yes I am a man :p:p:p and I can live without a woman. I do not need a creation of Allah...I NEED ALLAH! I ONLY NEED ALLAH and he is not a woman and he is not a man...WITHOUT him I would not even be breathing...without him I would not even be able to sleep. Without him I would not even be able to laugh. I NEED ALLAH and I cannot live without him.

That is better than saying I cannot live without a WOMAN. No brother....I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT ALLAH! I need Allah! Only he deserves to be worshiped and if Allah does not give me strength I can have 50 women on my head and I will still live as if I have not had one woman in my life. it is Allah who instill tranquility in my heart and soul and not his creation.
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azc
10-25-2018, 04:01 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Why not go the circus and find me with the other freak of natures out there :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:! And Yes I am a man :p:p:p and I can live without a woman. I do not need a creation of Allah...I NEED ALLAH! I ONLY NEED ALLAH and he is not a woman and he is not a man...WITHOUT him I would not even be breathing...without him I would not even be able to sleep. Without him I would not even be able to laugh. I NEED ALLAH and I cannot live without him.

That is better than saying I cannot live without a WOMAN. No brother....I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT ALLAH! I need Allah! Only he deserves to be worshiped and if Allah does not give me strength I can have 50 women on my head and I will still live as if I have not had one woman in my life. it is Allah who instill tranquility in my heart and soul and not his creation.

It was narrated from Aishah that:
the Messenger of Allah :saws: said: “Marriage is part of my sunnah, and whoever does not follow my sunnah has nothing to do with me. Get married, for I will boast of your great numbers before the nations. Whoever has the means, let him get married, and whoever does not, then he should fast for it will diminish his desire.”
حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ الأَزْهَرِ، حَدَّثَنَا آدَمُ، حَدَّثَنَا عِيسَى بْنُ مَيْمُونٍ، عَنِ الْقَاسِمِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏"‏ النِّكَاحُ مِنْ سُنَّتِي فَمَنْ لَمْ يَعْمَلْ بِسُنَّتِي فَلَيْسَ مِنِّي وَتَزَوَّجُوا فَإِنِّي مُكَاثِرٌ بِكُمُ الأُمَمَ وَمَنْ كَانَ ذَا طَوْلٍ فَلْيَنْكِحْ وَمَنْ لَمْ يَجِدْ فَعَلَيْهِ بِالصِّيَامِ فَإِنَّ الصَّوْمَ لَهُ وِجَاءٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
Grade:Hasan, Ibn Majah
English reference: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1846
Arabic reference: Book 9, Hadith 1919
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xboxisdead
10-25-2018, 05:56 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
It was narrated from Aishah that:
the Messenger of Allah :saws: said: “Marriage is part of my sunnah, and whoever does not follow my sunnah has nothing to do with me. Get married, for I will boast of your great numbers before the nations. Whoever has the means, let him get married, and whoever does not, then he should fast for it will diminish his desire.”
حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ الأَزْهَرِ، حَدَّثَنَا آدَمُ، حَدَّثَنَا عِيسَى بْنُ مَيْمُونٍ، عَنِ الْقَاسِمِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏"‏ النِّكَاحُ مِنْ سُنَّتِي فَمَنْ لَمْ يَعْمَلْ بِسُنَّتِي فَلَيْسَ مِنِّي وَتَزَوَّجُوا فَإِنِّي مُكَاثِرٌ بِكُمُ الأُمَمَ وَمَنْ كَانَ ذَا طَوْلٍ فَلْيَنْكِحْ وَمَنْ لَمْ يَجِدْ فَعَلَيْهِ بِالصِّيَامِ فَإِنَّ الصَّوْمَ لَهُ وِجَاءٌ ‏"‏ ‏.‏
Grade:Hasan, Ibn Majah
English reference: Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1846
Arabic reference: Book 9, Hadith 1919
We need to fix our marriage system first and we need to return back to the proper marriage the way of sahaba is been done AND WE NEED NOT CROSS boundaries and exceed the limits and WIVES need to know their rights and the rights of their spouse and HUSBANDS need to know their rights and the right of their spouse and neither of them exceed the limit and CHILDREN should never be used as weapons and both parents rights NEED TO BE EQUALLY protected and taken seriously by society and by the law AAAAND....gender roles need to be returned correctly in the way that is written in Qura'an and Sunnah ...before we push for marriage again. You do not push for marriage in a place where fitna, disaster, chaos, violence and exploitation is the norm. If marriage will cause you to distance yourself from Allah or cause you to go through trails that could destroy your afterlife because you cannot handle the trail and hardship and war and difficult and challenges (WHICH GOES COMPLETELY OPPOSITE OF WHAT MARRIAGE IS THAT IS WRITTEN IN QURA'AN THAT IT SHOULD BE) then don't do it. Your akhira is more important than marriage. Your deen is more important than any marriage or any wife. NO woman on Earth will protect you from the hellfire or Allah's punishment.

You don't enter paradise through women. No woman on Earth will intercede between you and Allah and no woman..let alone any of Allah's creation...can over talk Allah or talk their way out of HELLFIRE by sounding convincing or talk on your behalf. AND THE ONLY MAN ON EARTH WHO could intercede is the prophet peace be upon him and he only could do that BECAUSE Allah HIMSELF willed for that to happen! Just understand that! So if you want to promote marriage...you have to fix the problem first and teach society HOW MARRIAGE SHOULD BE properly done against feminism, against political correctness and against the Western style world or any modern world. Do I believe in marriage? YES I DO! But getting married may mean in the future could potential be my destruction then I would be a fool to enter it. I have no energy of the crap that modern people deal with in marriage nowadays.....I don't have it in me. I can't do it. Sorry. I discovered I have lived 39 years of my life without a female and I find somehow that is a strength given to me by Allah (Subhanahu Wa talaa) and I am thankful for it.....and I have a very quiet and peaceful life...I have no desire for drama.
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Mandy
10-25-2018, 08:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
That is better than saying I cannot live without a WOMAN. No brother....I CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT ALLAH! I need Allah! Only he deserves to be worshiped and if Allah does not give me strength
Brother, I do understand you had bad experience in life. However, no one ever suggested that a woman is a replacement for Allah. I know that me and many of the other sisters here have great virtues and qualities, but not that one!!! And anyone who believes so, needs to reexamine their beliefs quickly!!

Jokes apart, the prophet made it clear that men and woman are made to be companions to one another. We are 2 sides of the same coin and Allah in his wisdom made it so that we were different but yet completing one another.

Naturally, some women can be very cruel and try to exploit situations. Just like some men can.
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xboxisdead
10-25-2018, 09:14 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Mandy
Brother, I do understand you had bad experience in life. However, no one ever suggested that a woman is a replacement for Allah. I know that me and many of the other sisters here have great virtues and qualities, but not that one!!! And anyone who believes so, needs to reexamine their beliefs quickly!!

Jokes apart, the prophet made it clear that men and woman are made to be companions to one another. We are 2 sides of the same coin and Allah in his wisdom made it so that we were different but yet completing one another.

Naturally, some women can be very cruel and try to exploit situations. Just like some men can.
I just hate it when I hear the way men talk as if they are literally worshipping women instead of worshipping Allah. They say the most beautiful thing in the world is women and the most majestic thing is a woman...WATCH IT IN TV and cartoons and movies...to men..women is their all and end all and I am like..............STOP that is shirk. Be Careful....be careful....be careful....be careful.....you are so close to prostrating to a woman and glorifying her and worshipping her. I hear men saying that I cannot live without women..I will die without women and I am like...wait hold on....you can live with associating partners with Allah and neglecting your prayer and lacking in glorifying Allah AND IT IS HE WHO CREATED YOU, SHAPED YOU, IT IS HE WHO GAVE YOU A GENDER AND IT is Allah who deserves to be glorified and worshipped and only him. I think as Muslims we are doing so many shirks without knowing it. We have to be careful.
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azc
10-26-2018, 03:52 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
I just hate it when I hear the way men talk as if they are literally worshipping women instead of worshipping Allah. They say the most beautiful thing in the world is women and the most majestic thing is a woman...WATCH IT IN TV and cartoons and movies...to men..women is their all and end all and I am like..............STOP that is shirk. Be Careful....be careful....be careful....be careful.....you are so close to prostrating to a woman and glorifying her and worshipping her. I hear men saying that I cannot live without women..I will die without women and I am like...wait hold on....you can live with associating partners with Allah and neglecting your prayer and lacking in glorifying Allah AND IT IS HE WHO CREATED YOU, SHAPED YOU, IT IS HE WHO GAVE YOU A GENDER AND IT is Allah who deserves to be glorified and worshipped and only him. I think as Muslims we are doing so many shirks without knowing it. We have to be careful.
Worshipping women is a new cult.

Isn't it ...?

:lol:
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xboxisdead
10-26-2018, 04:30 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
Worshipping women is a new cult.

Isn't it ...?

:lol:
Ahaha...oh yeah. don't laugh. It actually does happen.Even shiekh and learned scholar tell you the many of shirk people do, worshiping jesus, worshiping the sun, some worship mar or jupiter the planets, other worshp the stars by making wishes to them and hoping the stars will reply to their wishes or prayers, others worship santa clause and others actually worship women. There are lots of women call themselves goddess...it is even mentioned in the qura'an how people worship Gods and Goddesses. You will find lots of Goddesses in video games and old tribes. It is there. I just don't want any brother to fall in the wrong direction without knowing it.
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Desert
10-26-2018, 08:17 AM
I got a divorce my husband blamed me because my religion wasn't correct
Even though I'm Muslim
I loved my husband a lot but he divorced me....
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azc
10-26-2018, 08:33 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Ahaha...oh yeah. don't laugh. It actually does happen.Even shiekh and learned scholar tell you the many of shirk people do, worshiping jesus, worshiping the sun, some worship mar or jupiter the planets, other worshp the stars by making wishes to them and hoping the stars will reply to their wishes or prayers, others worship santa clause and others actually worship women. There are lots of women call themselves goddess...it is even mentioned in the qura'an how people worship Gods and Goddesses. You will find lots of Goddesses in video games and old tribes. It is there. I just don't want any brother to fall in the wrong direction without knowing it.
according to their (e.g. Hindu) mythology Goddesses weren't worshipped by their husbands but by others... And here husbands are worshipping their wives.
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ardianto
10-26-2018, 09:28 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
How can a MAN live without a WOMAN......?

But......

Sorry to ask you.........
Are you......?
No, he is not gay.

Gays are not attracted to women, but they do not hate women in general. Even some gays prefer to befriend with women rather than with men. Asexual men are not attracted to women too, but they are not anti women.

The anti-women attitude like that occurs only among heterosexual men, with various level, depend on the level of trauma that they have experienced, or level of indoctrination that they received (Men like this tend to indoctrinate their anti-women view toward the other, especially toward younger male/boys).

As heterosexual those men actually still have desire on woman. But the trauma or indoctrination makes them afraid of being attracted to a woman. Afraid to be rejected if they fall in love, afraid to be cheated by a women, afraid to be abandoned by a woman if they already in relationship. So they develop "hating the women" attitude in their minds to prevent them attracted to a woman.

The anti-women view like this actually quite common occur among men, especially teen boys and young adults. But mostly only in low level that can easily be faded after those men begin to more active in social relationship that makes them meet women who treat them kindly and change their view on women.
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azc
10-26-2018, 11:04 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
No, he is not gay.Gays are not attracted to women, but they do not hate women in general. Even some gays prefer to befriend with women rather than with men. Asexual men are not attracted to women too, but they are not anti women. The anti-women attitude like that occurs only among heterosexual men, with various level, depend on the level of trauma that they have experienced, or level of indoctrination that they received (Men like this tend to indoctrinate their anti-women view toward the other, especially toward younger male/boys). As heterosexual those men actually still have desire on woman. But the trauma or indoctrination makes them afraid of being attracted to a woman. Afraid to be rejected if they fall in love, afraid to be cheated by a women, afraid to be abandoned by a woman if they already in relationship. So they develop "hating the women" attitude in their minds to prevent them attracted to a woman.The anti-women view like this actually quite common occur among men, especially teen boys and young adults. But mostly only in low level that can easily be faded after those men begin to more active in social relationship that makes them meet women who treat them kindly and change their view on women .
the brother is not in his teens, but still lingering.........
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ardianto
10-26-2018, 11:50 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
the brother is not in his teens, but still lingering.........
I know that he is not teen, but ... if I am not wrong ... 38 years old man.
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xboxisdead
10-26-2018, 01:07 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by ardianto
No, he is not gay.

Gays are not attracted to women, but they do not hate women in general. Even some gays prefer to befriend with women rather than with men. Asexual men are not attracted to women too, but they are not anti women.

The anti-women attitude like that occurs only among heterosexual men, with various level, depend on the level of trauma that they have experienced, or level of indoctrination that they received (Men like this tend to indoctrinate their anti-women view toward the other, especially toward younger male/boys).

As heterosexual those men actually still have desire on woman. But the trauma or indoctrination makes them afraid of being attracted to a woman. Afraid to be rejected if they fall in love, afraid to be cheated by a women, afraid to be abandoned by a woman if they already in relationship. So they develop "hating the women" attitude in their minds to prevent them attracted to a woman.

The anti-women view like this actually quite common occur among men, especially teen boys and young adults. But mostly only in low level that can easily be faded after those men begin to more active in social relationship that makes them meet women who treat them kindly and change their view on women.
While with your immature psychology degree and indie therapy certificate that you have hanged on the wall as a kid with scribbles, maybe you should focus on fixing the societal issues that the OP have been posted and see how you can work on cleaning the filth before going into me in personal level? I guess it is too hard for you but easy to go at me, no? :facepalm: I would not want to wish this to any of my brothers, but I guess it may take a non-Muslim who have had enough of this to cause a revolution (a bloody one at that) to change things while we sit here...psycho analyzing each other? Amazing how we don't even say, "You know? I think i am going to take a shower, get out of this house and computer and gadgets, form a group of organization and spread Islam and it's laws correctly against the cloud of evil that is lurking above our heads and fix all social calamities that befall us even if it means my enemies will stab me in the heart. But I am doing it for Allah, alone." Allah only him knows that you would make a huge difference and inject antidote to society that may take a while to heal itself but it is in the process...maybe I am putting this in quotes, "men like me" as you like labeling it...having nothing to say. But the more men are pushed in corner, yapping nut cases like me will increase. What are you going to do then brother? Psychoanalysis each of them and ask them to lay down and hypnotize them to return back to the childhood and make them come out of your room with a smile on their face as they see the world full of Rambo and unicorn when in reality it is in flaming filth or are you going to say he is a symptom of a bigger problem...the war on family, the war on men and family and that we need to be speaking in media to fix the problem? What if an opposing force comes at out and that opposing force is a female and she have strong case against you, would you cower or would you have something in your hand to shut her down and push on your case for family unity and family bond again? I am just wondering...
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*charisma*
10-26-2018, 05:32 PM
Assalamu Alaikum

format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
I just hate it when I hear the way men talk as if they are literally worshipping women instead of worshipping Allah. They say the most beautiful thing in the world is women and the most majestic thing is a woman...WATCH IT IN TV and cartoons and movies...to men..women is their all and end all and I am like..............STOP that is shirk. Be Careful....be careful....be careful....be careful.....you are so close to prostrating to a woman and glorifying her and worshipping her. I hear men saying that I cannot live without women..I will die without women and I am like...wait hold on....you can live with associating partners with Allah and neglecting your prayer and lacking in glorifying Allah AND IT IS HE WHO CREATED YOU, SHAPED YOU, IT IS HE WHO GAVE YOU A GENDER AND IT is Allah who deserves to be glorified and worshipped and only him. I think as Muslims we are doing so many shirks without knowing it. We have to be careful.
The thing is whether we like it or not, we come from both sexes. So our world revolves around each other even without having one of your parents or without having siblings of the opposite gender, or whatever the case may be. Even you, who is quite critical of women, speak about them at least 95% of the time. Nearly EVERY ONE of your topics is negatively directed against women. The sad thing is, you can get your ideas across more effectively if you focused on the message of elevating the father/brother/male role instead of rambling about women and what you hate about them, because when you do that it actually expresses more of your obsession with women than it does about your care or ideas for fathers and men in general.

Secondly, instead of saying you NEVER want to get married, or you NEVER want to do something which is of the sunnah and encouraged, you should ask Allah to grant you what is BEST for you and the BEST of what He has created. That will express your love for Allah much more and show your acceptance of qadr whatever it may be. Instead you seem scared of everything while at the same time very boastful. This is not a good mix. We can plan for ourselves but in the end it is Allah who is the best of planners.
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Mandy
10-26-2018, 05:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Ahaha...oh yeah. don't laugh. It actually does happen.Even shiekh and learned scholar tell you the many of shirk people do, worshiping jesus, worshiping the sun, some worship mar or jupiter the planets, other worshp the stars by making wishes to them and hoping the stars will reply to their wishes or prayers, others worship santa clause and others actually worship women. There are lots of women call themselves goddess...it is even mentioned in the qura'an how people worship Gods and Goddesses. You will find lots of Goddesses in video games and old tribes. It is there. I just don't want any brother to fall in the wrong direction without knowing it.
Dear brother, the people in "old tribes" or even video games are indeed committing shirk. Simply because they are worshipping a false god. They are no more worshipping women than people who worship a false male god are worshipping men. "worshipping women" as in worshipping anyone who is female is not really a thing as far as I know even if some people commit the sin of worshipping a human figure (may it be male or female).



format_quote Originally Posted by xboxisdead
Allah AND IT IS HE WHO CREATED YOU, SHAPED YOU, IT IS HE WHO GAVE YOU A GENDER AND IT is Allah who deserves to be glorified and worshipped and only him. I think as Muslims we are doing so many shirks without knowing it. We have to be careful.
As you yourself said a few posts ago, Allah created us all with a gender and decided what gender was best for us. Women are no more evil and wicked than men are.

In all of your posts you seem to focus exclusively in warning people of the evilness that resides in anyone who is female. Instead of being so negative, maybe you could try to focus more on the problem that some men face and what the solutions might be? That would be constructive and helpful. What do you suggest ?


I really do not want to sound mean, I simply believe you may be helpful to others who could use help if only you stopped being only negative all the time.
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xboxisdead
10-26-2018, 08:23 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
Assalamu Alaikum



The thing is whether we like it or not, we come from both sexes. So our world revolves around each other even without having one of your parents or without having siblings of the opposite gender, or whatever the case may be. Even you, who is quite critical of women, speak about them at least 95% of the time. Nearly EVERY ONE of your topics is negatively directed against women. The sad thing is, you can get your ideas across more effectively if you focused on the message of elevating the father/brother/male role instead of rambling about women and what you hate about them, because when you do that it actually expresses more of your obsession with women than it does about your care or ideas for fathers and men in general.

Secondly, instead of saying you NEVER want to get married, or you NEVER want to do something which is of the sunnah and encouraged, you should ask Allah to grant you what is BEST for you and the BEST of what He has created. That will express your love for Allah much more and show your acceptance of qadr whatever it may be. Instead you seem scared of everything while at the same time very boastful. This is not a good mix. We can plan for ourselves but in the end it is Allah who is the best of planners.
Sister of course we came from both sexes ..in biological sense it is all make sense. The more complex the organism the more it goes toward having genders. Heck, even in the biological level...the very complex cells have male cell and female cell and they literally mate to consummate a child cell. No joke. The more simplistic the organism and primitive the organism however the more we don't need gender period. Hence simple cells in the human body that reproduce asexually. But that have it's role. Other somewhat complex organism, certain lizards for example are single sex organism..composed exclusively of only females. However, the downside of that..if a virus or a deadly organism will kill that lizard it will wipe the entire species into extinctions as there are no variations or difference as it is one single sex society. However, Allah created that with hikim and for a reason also and if anything to show his infinite power. My objection is the minor shirk that people spit out when they become obsessed into creation of Allah instead of Allah himself. We should be OCD in worshipping Allah and glorifying him and mentioning him in our tongues and heart. We should be so OCD in such way that it becomes super difficult to enter washroom because your tongue can't stop mentioning Allah and glorifying him..but alas we are doing the opposite...we are glorifying the creation of Allah and become obsessed with it and die if we don't have it. That is my objection.

As for fathers role model...I am sorry if I sound rambling...but these men have no power to exercise their role model when the women have all the power and she have the say to prevent him from seeing his children and when the law backs her up (maybe that is not where you live...but it sure is where I live). How can a man play his role when he have to fight to see his children ones a month. If I were married and I only see you once a month or once every three month...and I can only talk with you and socialize with you for an hour or two. Would you consider this a happy relationship or marriage? As for never getting married...I don't get married when I know marriage could destroy my akhira instead of bringing tranquility to my heart. Then yes... I will never get married. Notice however, I did not say I do not believe it...I just said I will not get married because I fear I will lose the afterlife.

I don't know about you...but I want paradise more than my own children or a wife. If I can make deal with Allah now that I have guaranteed paradise but he take all my health, sight, hearing and I am just sitting my back on the wall in darkness until my death takes me I will take this deal in a heart beat. Because afterlife is eternal...this world is temporary.
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azc
10-27-2018, 06:33 AM
@xboxisdead :

''I will not get married because I fear I will lose the afterlife.''

I am sure nobody agree with you.
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Zzz_
10-27-2018, 06:13 PM
@xboxisdead: you should watch 'divorce corp'. I can get it for you if want. you will never want to marry in the US lol.


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xboxisdead
10-29-2018, 04:35 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zzz_
@xboxisdead: you should watch 'divorce corp'. I can get it for you if want. you will never want to marry in the US lol.


Oh! I already watched the divorce corp IN HD. Don't you worry about that. Got a complete insight of what goes on in the world.
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Desert
10-29-2018, 06:17 PM
Divorce is the worst thing in the world to me after shirk
But my divorce cause me to have a sharp tongue it's too much

Widows get the benefit of doubt
Like piety and good faith...

Divorc ee s are in a blame game and animal like behavior....
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