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Nitro Zeus
12-15-2018, 12:23 PM
We know that if one wishes to get his or her Dua acceptef and answered, he should first recite the chapter called "The Opener" then, recite chapter called "The Purity", then recite "durud e Ibrahim" after this, recite a Dua for Muslims, then recite for yourself whatever Dua you want.

Is this really obligatory to be done this method? Or it is just optional? How did prpphet Muhammad managed to recite constantly supplications for himself? Was it difficult to do this? Because, right now I'm having difficulties on studying mathematical stuff and the final exam is approaching real quick and I need to be in exam 100% prepared like never before, becaus it is the door for my future, and a door to many great jobs. I can't every time I want to study to recite this and then recite "O Allah, increase me in my knowledge". Does God accepts and answers even if one does not do as he suppose to do?

My mother told me that God does help to succeed those who have ambition and strong will without them to seek His help. Is that true what she told me?

Is it acceptible if I recire simply like this "O Allah, Increase me in my knowledge"?

How do Supplications work?
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IslamLife00
12-18-2018, 05:29 AM
Do you mean this hadith?

Umar bin Al-Khattab narrated:
"Indeed the supplication stops between the heavens and the earth. Nothing of it is raised up until you send Salat upon your Prophet." (Jami'at-Tirmidhi)

It's a weak hadith, I don't know if you should follow it or not.

But if you make supplication (dua) in salah, then you will make it after tashahhud, durood anyway.


This is Tashahhud :

It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbas said:
"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used to teach us the tashahhud as he taught us the Quran, and he used to say: : 'At-tahiyyatu lillahi was-salawatu wat-tayyibat, as-salamu 'alaika ayyuhan-Nabiyyu wa rahmatAllahi wa barakatuhu. As-salamu 'alaina wa 'ala 'ibad illahis-salihin, ash-hadu an la ilaha ill-Allah wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan 'abduhu wa rasuluhu (All compliments, prayers and pure words are due to Allah. Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah (SWT) and his blessings. Peace be upon us and upon the righteous slaves of Allah (SWT). I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger).' (Sunan An-Nasa'i)

Durood :

It was narrated that Ibn Abi Laila said:
"Ka'b bin Ujrah said to me: 'Shall I not give you a gift?' We said: "O Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), we know about sending salams upon you, but how should we send salah upon you?" He said: 'Say: Alahumma salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala ali Muhammad, kama sallaita 'ala Ibrahima wa barik 'ala Muhammad kama barakta 'ala ali Ibrahim fil-'alamin, innaka hamidun majid (O Allah, send salah upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad, as You sent salah upon the family of Ibrahim, and send blessings upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad as You sent blessings upon the family of Ibrahim among the nations. You are indeed Worthy of praise, Full of glory.)'" (Sunan An-Nasa'i)

This link will show you how to offer salah >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKblG-Zoagk


Supplicating in salah :

Narrated Some Companions of the Prophet:

AbuSalih reported on the authority of some Companions of the Prophet (ﷺ): The Prophet (ﷺ) said to a person: what do you say in prayer?
He replied: I first recite tashahhud, and then I say: O Allah, I ask Thee for Paradise, and I seek refuge in Thee from Hell-Fire, but I do not understand your sound and the sound of Mu'adh (what you say or he says in prayer). The Prophet (ﷺ) said: We too go around it (paradise and Hell-fire). (Sunan Abi Dawud)


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azc
12-18-2018, 12:36 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by IslamLife00
Do you mean this hadith?

Umar bin Al-Khattab narrated:
"Indeed the supplication stops between the heavens and the earth. Nothing of it is raised up until you send Salat upon your Prophet." (Jami'at-Tirmidhi)

It's a weak hadith, I don't know if you should follow it or not.

But if you make supplication (dua) in salah, then you will make it after tashahhud, durood anyway.


This is Tashahhud :

It was narrated that Ibn 'Abbas said:
"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used to teach us the tashahhud as he taught us the Quran, and he used to say: : 'At-tahiyyatu lillahi was-salawatu wat-tayyibat, as-salamu 'alaika ayyuhan-Nabiyyu wa rahmatAllahi wa barakatuhu. As-salamu 'alaina wa 'ala 'ibad illahis-salihin, ash-hadu an la ilaha ill-Allah wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan 'abduhu wa rasuluhu (All compliments, prayers and pure words are due to Allah. Peace be upon you, O Prophet, and the mercy of Allah (SWT) and his blessings. Peace be upon us and upon the righteous slaves of Allah (SWT). I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah and I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger).' (Sunan An-Nasa'i)

Durood :

It was narrated that Ibn Abi Laila said:
"Ka'b bin Ujrah said to me: 'Shall I not give you a gift?' We said: "O Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), we know about sending salams upon you, but how should we send salah upon you?" He said: 'Say: Alahumma salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala ali Muhammad, kama sallaita 'ala Ibrahima wa barik 'ala Muhammad kama barakta 'ala ali Ibrahim fil-'alamin, innaka hamidun majid (O Allah, send salah upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad, as You sent salah upon the family of Ibrahim, and send blessings upon Muhammad and upon the family of Muhammad as You sent blessings upon the family of Ibrahim among the nations. You are indeed Worthy of praise, Full of glory.)'" (Sunan An-Nasa'i)

This link will show you how to offer salah >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKblG-Zoagk


Supplicating in salah :

Narrated Some Companions of the Prophet:

AbuSalih reported on the authority of some Companions of the Prophet (ﷺ): The Prophet (ﷺ) said to a person: what do you say in prayer?
He replied: I first recite tashahhud, and then I say: O Allah, I ask Thee for Paradise, and I seek refuge in Thee from Hell-Fire, but I do not understand your sound and the sound of Mu'adh (what you say or he says in prayer). The Prophet (ﷺ) said: We too go around it (paradise and Hell-fire). (Sunan Abi Dawud)

will you explain why its a weak hadith
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IslamLife00
12-18-2018, 07:01 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
will you explain why its a weak hadith
It says so on sunnah.com

https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi/3/34

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Nitro Zeus
12-18-2018, 08:03 PM
le me get this straight up, so I have to first recite the chapter called "The Opener", then recite tahashud, then a chapter for forgivness, and then final step is to send blessings upon the Prophet? What if I'm unable to see in my Dua where the middle of it so that I,can send blessings for the Prophet in the middle? Will its still,be accepted my Dua?Because, honestly I dont know where is the middle of Dua, because I,never practiced this. If I send the blessings upon the Prophet and I believe that this is the middle of Dua even if I,do not know, then my Dua will get accepted and answered, right? How should I know where is the middle of Dua?
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IslamLife00
12-18-2018, 10:13 PM
That's why I posted the video above to show you how to offer salah.

Here is the link again : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKblG-Zoagk

In salah, you will recite Al-Fatiha (The Opener) and other surahs in the Qur'an.

You can make dua after Tashahhud and Durood. Then you close the salah by saying As-salaamu 'alaykum wa rahmatullah to the right and then left.

Watch the video so you know how to offer salah properly.


As for the durood, it can be said in the beginning of dua only

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/2192...on-the-prophet
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azc
12-19-2018, 03:51 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by IslamLife00
I don't find any hadith as weak until reasons are well explained, moreover, all the related doubts are cleared.

E.g.

Did imam tirmidhi rh declare this hadith as weak...?

Hadith is hadith, the saying of the prophet :saws:
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IslamLife00
12-19-2018, 05:06 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
I don't find any hadith as weak until reasons are well explained, moreover, all the related doubts are cleared.

E.g.

Did imam tirmidhi rh declare this hadith as weak...?

Hadith is hadith, the saying of the prophet :saws:

I don't think scholars would've classified any hadith as da'eef without reason,

at least I hope they have always followed the guidelines

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/2395...ari-guidelines

otherwise they are misleading and they have to answer Allah for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDn-IWkErAk

As for the grade information, it says on the site sunnah.com that they are still adding more

As in durood itself, obligatory or not for dua to be accepted, is the right of the Prophet sallallahu 'alayhi wa salaam and has great virtue, so I still say it.
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azc
12-19-2018, 06:47 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by IslamLife00
I don't think scholars would've classified any hadith as da'eef without reason,

at least I hope they have always followed the guidelines

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/2395...ari-guidelines

otherwise they are misleading and they have to answer Allah for that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDn-IWkErAk

As for the grade information, it says on the site sunnah.com that they are still adding more

As in durood itself, obligatory or not for dua to be accepted, is the right of the Prophet sallallahu 'alayhi wa salaam and has great virtue, so I still say it.
and sometimes other imams and scholars can declare the same hadith as authentic based on reasons.

I regard all ahadith as authentic unless all the famous imams of jarh and ta'dil unanimously agree upon weakness of a particular hadith.

It's a vast issue.
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IslamLife00
12-19-2018, 07:10 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
and sometimes other imams and scholars can declare the same hadith as authentic based on reasons.

I regard all ahadith as authentic unless all the famous imams of jarh and ta'dil unanimously agree upon weakness of a particular hadith.

It's a vast issue.
OK. Each of us will answer Allah for our deeds in this dunya.
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