Difficult family members

[anonymous]

This is the scenario of a family living in the west:

A mother can be described as having - "Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) involves a pattern of self-centered,-arrogant thinking and behavior, a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe people with NPD as manipulative, selfish,-patronizing, and demanding." -

The sister is an adult that works and can provide for herself she has a bad reputation and does many haram things and does not feel ready to get married off yet

The big problem is that the mother and adult sister therefore don't get along and are to each other at times physically abusive.

The family has done everything to try and resolve the matter but they'd still keep fighting and it cannot be trusted for the two of them to be the only adults in the house or things may get out of hand, which may have to happen because the men have other responsibilities to uphold also.

Do you have any advice regarding the matter and is it halal to force her move out of the house while she is provided for or can provide for herself?

[Mandy]

Are you talking about forcing the mother or the daughter out of the house? What does provided for means for you?

If the mother becomes this violent and has that much problem, there are places that can offer help for such mental health issues. She should be looked after in the best way possible by professionals.

[azc]

This is the scenario of a family living in the west:

A mother can be described as having - "Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) involves a pattern of self-centered,-arrogant thinking and behavior, a lack of empathy and consideration for other people, and an excessive need for admiration. Others often describe people with NPD as manipulative, selfish,-patronizing, and demanding." -

The sister is an adult that works and can provide for herself she has a bad reputation and does many haram things and does not feel ready to get married off yet

The big problem is that the mother and adult sister therefore don't get along and are to each other at times physically abusive.

The family has done everything to try and resolve the matter but they'd still keep fighting and it cannot be trusted for the two of them to be the only adults in the house or things may get out of hand, which may have to happen because the men have other responsibilities to uphold also.

Do you have any advice regarding the matter and is it halal to force her move out of the house while she is provided for or can provide for herself?

Your sister has the same right to live with her family as you have. Despite all her nuisance she can't be deprived of this right.

If you are sincerely worried for both of them then do dua for them.

[peacefulone]

Salaam alaykum
I think that they both should get mental health counsoling but kicking someone out because they are able to fend for themselves is like abandonment. This will leave longterm scars and anger that is even more difficult to overcome than the abusive things they might be doing. I would make dua like the others said and get them help from professionals. Abandoning your family is never a good idea no matter how awful you think they are. They are your blood and they will grow out of their difficult behaviours but their memories of you will remain longterm. They may end up married and with children but you never get to see their children because you abandoned them. Then the cycle would continue with nothing resolved....
its better to just call a mental health crisis line and complain about your family members abuse to get professionals there right away.

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[aqib012]

Are you talking about forcing the mother or the daughter out of the house? What does provided for means for you?

If the mother becomes this violent and has that much problem, there are places that can offer help for such mental health issues. She should be looked after in the best way possible by professionals.

agree with you