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Nitro Zeus
12-28-2018, 12:44 PM
I told my Christian mother that there is a spiritual race made out of fire, and that is called Jinn, they are the one which make Paranormal Activities and posses people. And she told me that is is bullshit, and she asked me "have you seen anyone being possesed?" and I said "yes, I've seen on YouTube" and she told me that they are only smart IT specialists who can edit the videos and make it be realistic. And that was heavy to me, and she does not believe me that making animated images is sinful and haram, and she does not believe that singing and listening to songs are haram too, because she agrees with my Muslim father who claims that he has read Quran countless of times and he understood ever passage from Quran, and he said to me once that music can be either good or bad, and what is bad, you stay away from it. He told me that I can listen to Michael Jackson's songs, and to cowboy songs(cowboy songs are lame songs). Then, I have stopped arguing because it is useless and I did as what he told me, because I don't want to disapoint my parents. I have started to discover what type of music is my favorite, and that is Electronic and Rock. And honestly, I do know almost a lot of things about Islam, but still I have many things to learn, and I had to listen to songs so that I can develope my culture so that it can be easily for me to make friends everywhere I go. Because, when I was in elementary school, I was mocked badly because I did not know a singer nor a bad, but later I,have decided to listen to some songs so that I won't have to be mocked again.

Is what I did correct? How can I cause a Christian to believe in Islamic laws like myself?
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Desert
12-30-2018, 07:39 AM
Obey your parents
There is no one who loves you more than your parents
They want to protect you

No one here is allowed to say anything to your mother she gave birth to you


In the bible it says God is one
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Nitro Zeus
12-31-2018, 01:07 PM
Originally Posted by Desert
Obey your parents
There is no one who loves you more than your parents
They want to protect you

No one here is allowed to say anything to your mother she gave birth to you


In the bible it says God is one
Yes, that is in Old Testiment. If you read in New Testiment, maybe you'll change your mind. However, I only accept Quran because everything it says in Quran is true, and I cannot reject what is true because thats how I've been taught by mother: not to reject what is true.
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Silas
12-31-2018, 03:45 PM
I think the problem is that Christianity has become so intertwined with political and ideological liberalism, and western culture, that it is difficult to get a Christian to imagine a way of life that is different.

In other words, a Christian might have doubts about his faith, or might not feel particularly religious, but nevertheless clings to this apparatus --church becomes a social affair, Christmas, holidays, etc. are celebrated in a secular manner. Muslims are view with suspicion or confusion (try finding a Christian in the west who has even a basic understanding of Islam), so for someone to revert is a major undertaking. Not only do you have to change someone's way of thinking, you have to change his life.

I think the best way to approach a Christian, and to get him to consider Islam, is to start with the core theological principles: unity of God, last Prophet, final revelation. And from there move to the messages contained within the Quran, and how they relate to that person's present life.

From there, set a good example as a Muslim. When people see you living a happy, healthy life, they will be more receptive to your message. In more general terms, Masjids in the west, particularly in the states, should engage in community outreach. Islam should not be viewed as some secretive thing people of a particular ethnicity practice.

I often tell my friends that Christianity isn't working, and that it never really did. Some find this shocking, but others know the truth.
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peacefulone
12-31-2018, 04:07 PM
Assalamu alaykum
Brother, it sounds like you are under a lot of pressure from others to fit in. And maybe you are young so that seems like an important thing to you. But as you get older you need to learn that fitting in is not always the best thing. All the great minds of the world were outsiders, who went against the grain to discover something or bring new ideas to the world. It goes hand in hand with success to be different (in a positive, strong way). I suggest laughing with the people who mock you for not listening to music. Come up with some witty comments you can make back, show them you do not care about what they say you are happy and going to stay that way (without m usic). Music doesn't really make people happy anyways. Music is full of making people desire things that are either unattainable or just bad for you. So if never are going to have what they sing about or you do not want it (because its bad) then who cares what those music lovers say. They are wasting time with music. But you can be different and fill your time with studies of good material that is halal. While they get dumber you will be leading yourself to success

Now regarding how can you show a christian to believe in islam?

You can show them through your attitude and actions. You do not need to argue or try to change their minds on anything. Just be a good positive example of you as a muslim. Follow the sunnah of Muhammad. Be patient with people, Make dua for them, and focus on yourself. I had arguments with my nonmuslim (christian) family a lot at the beginning and they were fruitless discussions. But when I ignore their denials and complaints then they happened less and less often. They started to see me as my own person who can't be bullied into following their every move, who they have to accept as I am because they love me and thats the main point. Now its been many years and my brother is starting to make friends with muslims and ask me for a Quran and other information he can study about Islam. he is the second youngest of my family. and he is only interested in islam because I was always calm, polite and a wise mature example to him as he was growing up (hes the younger one). If I had of shown him an angry argumentative and sad person then he would have ran from Islam I am sure.

So be patient with them. Let them live their lives while you live yours! You can help them to get better in life without trying to argue anything. Then the fruits of your hard work will pay off in the long run4
Take care
I hope this helps you

Assalamu alaykum
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Nitro Zeus
12-31-2018, 04:13 PM
Originally Posted by peacefulone
Assalamu alaykum
Brother, it sounds like you are under a lot of pressure from others to fit in. And maybe you are young so that seems like an important thing to you. But as you get older you need to learn that fitting in is not always the best thing. All the great minds of the world were outsiders, who went against the grain to discover something or bring new ideas to the world. It goes hand in hand with success to be different (in a positive, strong way). I suggest laughing with the people who mock you for not listening to music. Come up with some witty comments you can make back, show them you do not care about what they say you are happy and going to stay that way (without m usic). Music doesn't really make people happy anyways. Music is full of making people desire things that are either unattainable or just bad for you. So if never are going to have what they sing about or you do not want it (because its bad) then who cares what those music lovers say. They are wasting time with music. But you can be different and fill your time with studies of good material that is halal. While they get dumber you will be leading yourself to success

Now regarding how can you show a christian to believe in islam?

You can show them through your attitude and actions. You do not need to argue or try to change their minds on anything. Just be a good positive example of you as a muslim. Follow the sunnah of Muhammad. Be patient with people, Make dua for them, and focus on yourself. I had arguments with my nonmuslim (christian) family a lot at the beginning and they were fruitless discussions. But when I ignore their denials and complaints then they happened less and less often. They started to see me as my own person who can't be bullied into following their every move, who they have to accept as I am because they love me and thats the main point. Now its been many years and my brother is starting to make friends with muslims and ask me for a Quran and other information he can study about Islam. he is the second youngest of my family. and he is only interested in islam because I was always calm, polite and a wise mature example to him as he was growing up (hes the younger one). If I had of shown him an angry argumentative and sad person then he would have ran from Islam I am sure.

So be patient with them. Let them live their lives while you live yours! You can help them to get better in life without trying to argue anything. Then the fruits of your hard work will pay off in the long run4
Take care
I hope this helps you

Assalamu alaykum
Ok but if I dont, probebly I will even lose my friends aand I'll be left alone, because I would not have anything to discuss about. I already have been mocked in grade 6 just because I have not listened to any song, and I dont want to be repeated. I'm trying to take this as a general culture, something that develops your culture, thats all. Sometimes, I even hate myself because I was brought into existence, and that is because the way of how hard the life it is, because I do not find anything that makes me happy.
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peacefulone
12-31-2018, 04:22 PM
assalamu alaykum
This is a response to the person who said he to obey his parents (point blank).
He doesn't have to obey anything that goes against Allah.
He can stand up for his rights. Just because he is a Muslim doesn't make him a slave to his parents wishes, in all families, muslim and nonmuslim, there are instances where parents do something wrong to their kids because humans are not perfect and parents are human. This is a point about growing up not about islam. A grown up is someone who follows their own way and doesn't bother others.
For young brother and sisters here, be patient with your parents, of course do not get angry or mean to them, but find your own way. They will not be around forever to guide you how to think. if you have to go against them by doing your halal things to lead a righteous life then do it in a peace way or non argument and strong confident attitude.
thanks for your reading this
assalaam alaykum

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Brother, people are going to tease you regardless of who you are and what you believe. Maybe you are hanging with the wrong crowd? Of course you will be alone for a while...but nobody goes through life totally alone (who wants to be with others and tries to make friends). I had a group of girls who were my friends once doing bad stuff like mocking others, drinking, partying, flirting, I never followed them and they mocked me too. But they were bad for me. I had a hard time without them for a temporary time but after a while I started to notice people. New and DIFFERENT people who were better for me to be around. They did not waste time or do bad things they were kind to others, they were studious, they liked me as i am. It was 100 times more happier for me then with the old friends who are nobodies now.
So just follow your own way and live with loneliness for a temporary time until you learn who a true friend really is :)
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Nitro Zeus
12-31-2018, 04:38 PM
Originally Posted by peacefulone
assalamu alaykum
This is a response to the person who said he to obey his parents (point blank).
He doesn't have to obey anything that goes against Allah.
He can stand up for his rights. Just because he is a Muslim doesn't make him a slave to his parents wishes, in all families, muslim and nonmuslim, there are instances where parents do something wrong to their kids because humans are not perfect and parents are human. This is a point about growing up not about islam. A grown up is someone who follows their own way and doesn't bother others.
For young brother and sisters here, be patient with your parents, of course do not get angry or mean to them, but find your own way. They will not be around forever to guide you how to think. if you have to go against them by doing your halal things to lead a righteous life then do it in a peace way or non argument and strong confident attitude.
thanks for your reading this
assalaam alaykum

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Brother, people are going to tease you regardless of who you are and what you believe. Maybe you are hanging with the wrong crowd? Of course you will be alone for a while...but nobody goes through life totally alone (who wants to be with others and tries to make friends). I had a group of girls who were my friends once doing bad stuff like mocking others, drinking, partying, flirting, I never followed them and they mocked me too. But they were bad for me. I had a hard time without them for a temporary time but after a while I started to notice people. New and DIFFERENT people who were better for me to be around. They did not waste time or do bad things they were kind to others, they were studious, they liked me as i am. It was 100 times more happier for me then with the old friends who are nobodies now.
So just follow your own way and live with loneliness for a temporary time until you learn who a true friend really is :)
Honestly, I cant live without friends, of course I need friends so that I can spent with them. I'm not a person who likes and supports the loneliness, because I hate being lone. I like to have too many companions, I really enjoy people being around me.
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peacefulone
12-31-2018, 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
Honestly, I cant live without friends, of course I need friends so that I can spent with them. I'm not a person who likes and supports the loneliness, because I hate being lone. I like to have too many companions, I really enjoy people being around me.
Assalamu alaykum
As some point in your life will learn to deal with loneliness insha Allah.
Its a normal part of life. We all get into loneliness at one point for a reason ... it helps us GROW as a person.
It is important to choose friends wisely.
In an authentic Hadith, the Prophet Muhammad (saws) said: “A person is likely to follow the faith of his friend, so look whom you befriend.” (1).

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Nitro Zeus
12-31-2018, 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by peacefulone
Assalamu alaykum
As some point in your life will learn to deal with loneliness insha Allah.
Its a normal part of life. We all get into loneliness at one point for a reason ... it helps us GROW as a person.
It is important to choose friends wisely.
In an authentic Hadith, the Prophet Muhammad (saws) said: “A person is likely to follow the faith of his friend, so look whom you befriend.” (1).
Huuuh, it might be hard, but I'll try to do as the Prophet says.
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peacefulone
12-31-2018, 04:46 PM
Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
Huuuh, it might be hard, but I'll try to do as the Prophet says.

Asalamu alaykum,
Im not trying to break up your friendships just like that. Obviously, let things go gradually and maybe you will change and some of your old friends will like you better and change themselves. But if not, then at least you will learn to be happier as a strong muslim not a weak muslim. Also, when Allah may he be exalted and glorified, takes something away from you he always replaces it with something better!
Heres the article where I found the hadith i put on friends https://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/Friendship.htm
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Nitro Zeus
12-31-2018, 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by peacefulone
Asalamu alaykum,
Im not trying to break up your friendships just like that. Obviously, let things go gradually and maybe you will change and some of your old friends will like you better and change themselves. But if not, then at least you will learn to be happier as a strong muslim not a weak muslim. Also, when Allah may he be exalted and glorified, takes something away from you he always replaces it with something better!
Heres the article where I found the hadith i put on friends https://www.missionislam.com/knowledge/Friendship.htm
I understand you, I'm just saying that it hateful for me to be lonely, I simply go nuts if I dont have a friend.
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Eric H
12-31-2018, 08:32 PM
Greetings and peace be with you Nitro Zeus;

Allah chooses whom he wills, so it appears that Allah may not have chosen your mum. The most you can do is to strive to be the best Muslim that you can be.

Blessings
Eric
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Nitro Zeus
12-31-2018, 08:35 PM
Originally Posted by Eric H
Greetings and peace be with you Nitro Zeus;

Allah chooses whom he wills, so it appears that Allah may not have chosen your mum. The most you can do is to strive to be the best Muslim that you can be.

Blessings
Eric
What do you mean-"It appears that Allah has not chosen my mother"? Nobody is a prophet or messenger nowdays.
What should I do? Should I feel sorry for her that she will not be with me in Heaven?(Hopefully I'll be in Heaven). Should I be careless about her? Or what?
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Zafran
01-01-2019, 12:31 AM
Originally Posted by Nitro Zeus
What do you mean-"It appears that Allah has not chosen my mother"? Nobody is a prophet or messenger nowdays.
What should I do? Should I feel sorry for her that she will not be with me in Heaven?(Hopefully I'll be in Heaven). Should I be careless about her? Or what?
salaam

why are you talking about auxiliary Issues (Music and Jinns) in Islam and not the main points (God, the prophet, Quran, meaning of life, death etc)

another thing is that you dont know where your mother will be in the hereafter or for yourself for that matter. You need to be a good example and not debate people - people hate preaching to them so you should act and live well - then its up to God if he guides people or not.

peace
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Nitro Zeus
01-01-2019, 02:06 AM
Originally Posted by Zafran
salaam

why are you talking about auxiliary Issues (Music and Jinns) in Islam and not the main points (God, the prophet, Quran, meaning of life, death etc)

another thing is that you dont know where your mother will be in the hereafter or for yourself for that matter. You need to be a good example and not debate people - people hate preaching to them so you should act and live well - then its up to God if he guides people or not.

peace
I was only trying to tell her new stuff, I'm only trying to teach her about sharia and the basics of Islam thinking that she might accept willingly Islam. But it seems like I dont know how to guide someone to Islam in correct way.
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