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FilleTriste
01-24-2019, 09:25 PM
As'salamo alaikum/:sl:/Hello there. I hope you are having an amazing day. I have been on this website for a few days due to different issues (which can not be solved that easily, but I have had amazing support which actually helped me cope; thank you so much!), but this one is a rather straight-forward question; will Allah accept it if I finished the Holy Qur'an without a teacher?

Let me provide some clarification: ever since me and my siblings started reading the Qur'an, it has been our father who assigned us to read pages and then asked us to read it aloud to him so that he could point where we had made mistakes. However, being a working man (goes to work at 6-7 in the morning, and comes home at 6-7 in the evening), he just can not keep up. As for my mother, her state of health prevents her from taking over this task. They will not hire a teacher because there are no female Qur'an teachers available here (I hope you understand? Both me and my sister are females, so yeah). My sister is the only one of my siblings and I who has finished the Qur'an at least once (when she was 15. I am 14 right now, will turn 15, and am embarrassed that I have not even finished it once). So, I have decided to read it by myself and not check with a teacher for mistakes. My father says it will not count, but I still want to try.

I hope I made sense. I really want to strengthen my connection with God. Apologies for how crammed the text appears. Thank you! :)
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Eric H
01-25-2019, 03:32 AM
Greetings and peace be with you Pink_Uniqueorn;

So, I have decided to read it by myself and not check with a teacher for mistakes
The Qur'an will help you find answers to life's problems, it should encourage you to do something and give you hope. Read it carefully, and ask questions, the sisters and brothers are very helpful here, so you are not on your own.

Blessings
Eric
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bint e aisha
01-25-2019, 08:41 AM
Walaikumus Salam dear

Why not study online? Have you searched for online tajweed courses?
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Mandy
01-25-2019, 12:04 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Pink_Uniqueorn
So, I have decided to read it by myself and not check with a teacher for mistakes. My father says it will not count, but I still want to try.
Reading Quran is not a competition that "needs to count". It will help you to read it. You might not understand all the subtle details in it, but you will understand a portion of it. When you have questions, simply ask them to someone knowledgeable and that you trust.

As others have mentioned there are many good online resources (inducing asking here).
You can also talk about it with your sister or with other girls you are friends with.
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FilleTriste
01-25-2019, 09:58 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H
Greetings and peace be with you Pink_Uniqueorn;



The Qur'an will help you find answers to life's problems, it should encourage you to do something and give you hope. Read it carefully, and ask questions, the sisters and brothers are very helpful here, so you are not on your own.

Blessings
Eric

Thank you. Peace be with you, too. I will be sure to check with someone here if I want to get someone interpreted for me! :)

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format_quote Originally Posted by bint e aisha
Walaikumus Salam dear

Why not study online? Have you searched for online tajweed courses?

Thank you for the reply. I can not do that, sorry, because my parents will not allow that. imsad Believe me when I say that I have tried it, but they disapproved because they were skeptical of either the teachers or their Islamic beliefs (you know, how some Muslims have arguments on sensitive matters?). They are really picky... Unless there are some free courses, then I can completely take part in them without my parents knowing. I can not partake in the paid ones, as my parents are responsible for paying for my expenses currently. :?

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Reading Quran is not a competition that "needs to count". It will help you to read it. You might not understand all the subtle details in it, but you will understand a portion of it. When you have questions, simply ask them to someone knowledgeable and that you trust.

Thanks for the reply. :) I did not mean I want to compete, but I meant will Allah except my completion? I have heard it is required (or at least a good thing, maybe?) to read the whole Qur'an at least thrice in your lifetime, so that is why I want God to accept my deed (is that what we call it?). The reason I am so eager to get it done suddenly is because I fear dying without fulfilling this task. :(


As others have mentioned there are many good online resources (inducing asking here).
You can also talk about it with your sister or with other girls you are friends with.
Neither my friends nor my sister are really that strong in terms of Islamic knowledge. Like, I have some Muslim and some non-Muslim friends, but I can not turn to the Muslim ones and my sister for advice, as they themselves are learning. I do want to know if I can just read the Qur'an without reading it aloud to a teacher? :? I will still get on this website for help with interpreting the text, as it is my current go-to in terms for Islamic matters.

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Oh and I still welcome any free teaching resources. :)
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Eric H
01-25-2019, 11:51 PM
Greetings and peace be with you as always Pink_Uniqueorn;

The reason I am so eager to get it done suddenly is because I fear dying without fulfilling this task
I know everyone has been trying to encourage optimism; but I sense we might be missing something. It should take less than a year to read through the Qur'an, yet at the age of 14 you fear dying before you accomplish this task. What are we missing, please help us to understand.

May Allah bless you with the wisdom to do his will,
Eric
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FilleTriste
01-26-2019, 12:40 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H
Greetings and peace be with you as always Pink_Uniqueorn;



I know everyone has been trying to encourage optimism; but I sense we might be missing something. It should take less than a year to read through the Qur'an, yet at the age of 14 you fear dying before you accomplish this task. What are we missing, please help us to understand.

May Allah bless you with the wisdom to do his will,
Eric

Oh, no, nobody is missing out on anything. I just feel like I should complete this task as soon as possible, because death comes without warning. I do fear death a lot, but there is nothing right now that is putting me at risk of death. Peace be with you, too; thank you for your reply. :)
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IslamLife00
01-26-2019, 01:51 AM
So you want to finish reciting the Qur'an as soon as possible? If there is a masjid nearby, you or your parents can probably find help there.

I haven't come across anything that says finish reciting the Qur'an without a teacher will not be accepted, but the point of having a teacher is so that you can learn reciting properly.

If you don't recite the Qur'an properly, what makes you think Allah will accept it?

If the language Arabic is not an issue, maybe you can learn from Qur'an reciters online. You can download as well, so you can continue offline.

Here is one suggestion : https://quranicaudio.com/


Don't be discouraged if you find yourself struggling

It was narrated from Aisha that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "The one who is proficient with the Qur'an will be with the noble and righteous scribes (the angels), and the one who reads it and stumbles over it, finding it difficult, will have a double reward."
(Sunan Ibn Majah)

Narrated Muhammad bin Ka'b Al-Qurazi:
"I heard 'Abdullah bin Mas'ud saying: 'The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "[Whoever recites a letter] from Allah's Book, then he receives the reward from it, and the reward of ten the like of it. I do not say that Alif Lam Mim is a letter, but Alif is a letter, Lam is a letter and Mim is a letter." (Jami'at-Tirmidhi)
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Eric H
01-26-2019, 08:05 AM
Greetings and peace be with you IslamLife00;

It was narrated from Aisha that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "The one who is proficient with the Qur'an will be with the noble and righteous scribes (the angels), and the one who reads it and stumbles over it, finding it difficult, will have a double reward."
(Sunan Ibn Majah)
Thanks for sharing, as in most things in life, the extra rewards come in the struggle and the effort you put in.

Blessings,
Eric

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Greetings and peace be with you Pink_Uniqueorn;

I just feel like I should complete this task as soon as possible, because death comes without warning.
I think you are right on both counts, the fear of Allah is the start of wisdom and we should try and do what is right.

I do fear death a lot, but there is nothing right now that is putting me at risk of death.
Death is inevitable, there is no escape for any of us, but do we have to live in fear of death? Because fear is a choice, we can choose to live in fear, or we can choose to search for peace.

In 2011 I had tests done for cancer, about a month later the doctor phoned and said he urgently wanted to see me, it was non – Hodgkin Lymphoma. This was a name I recognised, our friend had this cancer, and died a few months later. I prayed for the wisdom, strength and peace to do God’s will, whether the cancer was a death sentence, or just an inconvenience. I can only say that from the moment of making this prayer, I have experienced a profound sense of peace, and the thought of cancer has never troubled me for a moment.

Cancer could be a truly worrying process, you wait a month or two for tests, you wait for the results, and you wait for more tests, but the prayer to do God’s will sort of handed the problem to God, and I have never had to worry. I have never once prayed for healing, at the age of 62, the prayer for healing seemed too complicated, people in their sixties die all the time from cancer, it might or might not be my time to go. Recognising this profound sense of peace comes from God, gives me reason to be thankful.

I could not imagine this sense of peace without a faith and trust in God. I can only say, from the moment of hearing about my cancer and making that prayer, I could talk about cancer in the same way as I talk about going shopping.

The point I am trying to make is this, even if the doctors were to say that 60 % of people with this cancer live, they can’t tell you whether you are going to be one of the 60 % that live. You will have to live with a lot of uncertainty over a period of time, this is why I prayed for the wisdom, strength, perseverance and the peace to do God’s will, whether the cancer was a death sentence or just an inconvenience. There is a peace from God that transcends all understanding.

Peace be with you, too; thank you for your reply.
Thank you, my prayer is that you find peace amongst all the turmoil in your life.

Blessings
Eric
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bint e aisha
01-26-2019, 11:15 AM
@Unicorn
There are reliable Islamic websites which offer free tajweed courses. I'll search and inform you later inshaAllah.
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azc
01-26-2019, 11:29 AM
If you can read Quran without help of a teacher, do it and when your father comes back in the evening read and repeat before him so that he may correct mistakes (if any)
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FilleTriste
01-26-2019, 02:12 PM
I think you are right on both counts, the fear of Allah is the start of wisdom and we should try and do what is right.


Death is inevitable, there is no escape for any of us, but do we have to live in fear of death? Because fear is a choice, we can choose to live in fear, or we can choose to search for peace.

In 2011 I had tests done for cancer, about a month later the doctor phoned and said he urgently wanted to see me, it was non – Hodgkin Lymphoma. This was a name I recognised, our friend had this cancer, and died a few months later. I prayed for the wisdom, strength and peace to do God’s will, whether the cancer was a death sentence, or just an inconvenience. I can only say that from the moment of making this prayer, I have experienced a profound sense of peace, and the thought of cancer has never troubled me for a moment.

Cancer could be a truly worrying process, you wait a month or two for tests, you wait for the results, and you wait for more tests, but the prayer to do God’s will sort of handed the problem to God, and I have never had to worry. I have never once prayed for healing, at the age of 62, the prayer for healing seemed too complicated, people in their sixties die all the time from cancer, it might or might not be my time to go. Recognising this profound sense of peace comes from God, gives me reason to be thankful.

I could not imagine this sense of peace without a faith and trust in God. I can only say, from the moment of hearing about my cancer and making that prayer, I could talk about cancer in the same way as I talk about going shopping.

The point I am trying to make is this, even if the doctors were to say that 60 % of people with this cancer live, they can’t tell you whether you are going to be one of the 60 % that live. You will have to live with a lot of uncertainty over a period of time, this is why I prayed for the wisdom, strength, perseverance and the peace to do God’s will, whether the cancer was a death sentence or just an inconvenience. There is a peace from God that transcends all understanding.

Wow, thank you. That was really inspirational. I guess I am causing problems for myself by living in constant fear of the inevitable. I should calm down, you are right.


Thank you, my prayer is that you find peace amongst all the turmoil in your life.
Thanks; same to you! :)


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format_quote Originally Posted by bint e aisha
@Unicorn
There are reliable Islamic websites which offer free tajweed courses. I'll search and inform you later inshaAllah.

Yes, please. Thank you so much. :)

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format_quote Originally Posted by IslamLife00
So you want to finish reciting the Qur'an as soon as possible? If there is a masjid nearby, you or your parents can probably find help there.

I haven't come across anything that says finish reciting the Qur'an without a teacher will not be accepted, but the point of having a teacher is so that you can learn reciting properly.

If you don't recite the Qur'an properly, what makes you think Allah will accept it?

If the language Arabic is not an issue, maybe you can learn from Qur'an reciters online. You can download as well, so you can continue offline.

Here is one suggestion : https://quranicaudio.com/


Don't be discouraged if you find yourself struggling

It was narrated from Aisha that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "The one who is proficient with the Qur'an will be with the noble and righteous scribes (the angels), and the one who reads it and stumbles over it, finding it difficult, will have a double reward."
(Sunan Ibn Majah)

Narrated Muhammad bin Ka'b Al-Qurazi:
"I heard 'Abdullah bin Mas'ud saying: 'The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "[Whoever recites a letter] from Allah's Book, then he receives the reward from it, and the reward of ten the like of it. I do not say that Alif Lam Mim is a letter, but Alif is a letter, Lam is a letter and Mim is a letter." (Jami'at-Tirmidhi)

Hm, well here is what I can say: Arabic is not my first language; I know how to read it, but I do not understand it well. As for nearby mosques, there are none that could be of help. I do try to read the Qur'an properly -- with or without teacher.

Thank you for the reply. :)
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*charisma*
01-26-2019, 02:18 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by IslamLife00
If you don't recite the Qur'an properly, what makes you think Allah will accept it?
The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The one who is skilled in reciting Qur’an will be with the noble, honourable scribes and the one who recites Qur’an and falters therein, and finds it difficult, will have a double reward.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (4937) and Muslim (798).

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

The one who falters is the one who stumbles in his recitation because of his poor memorisation. He will have a double reward: the reward for reciting and the reward for faltering in his recitation and the difficulty he encounters.
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FilleTriste
01-26-2019, 02:22 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
If you can read Quran without help of a teacher, do it and when your father comes back in the evening read and repeat before him so that he may correct mistakes (if any)

I can read the Qur'an without anyone's help every weekend (I am currently in high school, so I get a lot of homework and other time-consuming assignments), but I do not know if my father will be able to help. On weekends, he takes care of other non-work-related tasks. He has free time where he makes takes care of this specific task, but that is not very often. He tries hard to always find free time for this task, but he just can not. :(

And to be honest, he is really scary sometimes and makes reading the Qur'an just as scary as him or really painful, so I kind of want to finish it on my own or find a better teacher. Even when he is there to help me with it, he spends most of his time on his phone.

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format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The one who is skilled in reciting Qur’an will be with the noble, honourable scribes and the one who recites Qur’an and falters therein, and finds it difficult, will have a double reward.”

Narrated by al-Bukhaari (4937) and Muslim (798).

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

The one who falters is the one who stumbles in his recitation because of his poor memorisation. He will have a double reward: the reward for reciting and the reward for faltering in his recitation and the difficulty he encounters.

So I can just read it alone?
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*charisma*
01-26-2019, 02:27 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Pink_Uniqueorn
So I can just read it alone?
Yes absolutely. Just try to pay attention to the tajweed and the pronunciation you've already learned. You can memorize ayahs to the best of your abilities and then ask your father or a teacher for guidance on the tajweed aspect. You can also compare your recitation to quran reciters on youtube by recording yourself and listening to see where you make the mistakes.
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bint e aisha
01-26-2019, 08:04 PM
@Pink_Uniqueorn

I asked a very dear sister and she gave me this link. InshaAllah it will benefit. It has 100+ clips.

Enjoy: https://archive.org/details/How_To_R...oon_Part_1.mp4
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FilleTriste
01-26-2019, 10:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by bint e aisha
@Pink_Uniqueorn

I asked a very dear sister and she gave me this link. InshaAllah it will benefit. It has 100+ clips.

Enjoy: https://archive.org/details/How_To_R...oon_Part_1.mp4

Thank you so much for the link. Unfortunately, it can not help me -- really sorry! I do know how to read the Qur'an and pronounce it, I just have not finished it yet. Do keep in mind that I just skimmed through the videos and have not watched them yet. They teach the alphabets and pronunciations, right? If yes, then I have learned that since I was four. However, I know a lot of people who will find the link really helpful, so it is certainly worth keeping!
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IslamLife00
01-27-2019, 06:51 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Pink_Uniqueorn

Hm, well here is what I can say: Arabic is not my first language; I know how to read it, but I do not understand it well. As for nearby mosques, there are none that could be of help. I do try to read the Qur'an properly -- with or without teacher. Thank you for the reply. :)
I see. The masjids can't help. Your mother has health problem and your father is busy. Your sisters are still learning so you can't turn to them for help either. May Allah make it easy for you, sis.
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Eric H
01-27-2019, 07:57 AM
Greetings and peace be with you Pink_Uniqueorn;

So I can just read it alone?
When the going gets tough, teenagers often say; what's the point, and they give up.

Your heart is in the right place; you are still trying to understand in difficult circumstances. In an ideal world, there would be a gifted sister living next door to you, and she would be the best teacher. Sadly; these ideal circumstances rarely happen in life, we have to accept what we have, and do our best. Pray for the wisdom to understand the will of Allah, pray for the help to do the will of Allah.

I was at a church meeting last night; and talked briefly with a thirty year old lady, she said she had not had a break at work all day and had to rush to the meeting. I asked if she was a nurse, she said that she was a doctor, she had been brought up in Damascus in Syria, and was now working in England. She seemed to have a real passion for her work, sadly, I did not have the opportunity to ask her for any advice on becoming a doctor. It is reassuring to know that even women from Syria can become doctors.:)

May you be blessed in your struggles and find peace in your heart,
Eric
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bint e aisha
01-27-2019, 09:12 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Pink_Uniqueorn
Thank you so much for the link. Unfortunately, it can not help me -- really sorry! I do know how to read the Qur'an and pronounce it, I just have not finished it yet. Do keep in mind that I just skimmed through the videos and have not watched them yet. They teach the alphabets and pronunciations, right? If yes, then I have learned that since I was four. However, I know a lot of people who will find the link really helpful, so it is certainly worth keeping!
No problem, dear. I got it; you need a teacher who can teach you one to one. InshaAllah you'll find one.
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FilleTriste
01-27-2019, 11:14 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by IslamLife00
I see. The masjids can't help. Your mother has health problem and your father is busy. Your sisters are still learning so you can't turn to them for help either. May Allah make it easy for you, sis.

Ameen. Thank you for the sympathy. :happy:

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format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H
Greetings and peace be with you Pink_Uniqueorn;

Thank you; I hope the same for you. :)


format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H
When the going gets tough, teenagers often say; what's the point, and they give up.

Your heart is in the right place; you are still trying to understand in difficult circumstances. In an ideal world, there would be a gifted sister living next door to you, and she would be the best teacher. Sadly; these ideal circumstances rarely happen in life, we have to accept what we have, and do our best. Pray for the wisdom to understand the will of Allah, pray for the help to do the will of Allah.

This website helped me be positive. So thank you, really. I am trying my best to sort it out. In the end, if there is no hope, I will just read the Qur'an alone and hope Allah's mercy is with me.
format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H

I was at a church meeting last night; and talked briefly with a thirty year old lady, she said she had not had a break at work all day and had to rush to the meeting. I asked if she was a nurse, she said that she was a doctor, she had been brought up in Damascus in Syria, and was now working in England. She seemed to have a real passion for her work, sadly, I did not have the opportunity to ask her for any advice on becoming a doctor. It is reassuring to know that even women from Syria can become doctors.:)

Wow, this part was really helpful. I am glad other women have successfully become doctors -- gives me hope, plus evidence to show to my parents.


format_quote Originally Posted by Eric H
May you be blessed in your struggles and find peace in your heart,
Eric

Thank you, and same to you. :)

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format_quote Originally Posted by bint e aisha
No problem, dear. I got it; you need a teacher who can teach you one to one. InshaAllah you'll find one.

Yes, insha'Allah. Thank you so much. :)
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