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Abz2000
05-05-2019, 05:21 AM
Here's an ability to sense which many/most humans have been granted -but may be unaware of.......

....some people who's brains may have better abilities to interpret different signals in their body may not even need l-rods in order to get a hunch which may appear illogical - since this energy is running through the body even if there are no l-rods.

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Abz2000
05-05-2019, 05:15 PM
Homing pigeons reveal true magnetism
Iron crystals in their beaks give birds a nose for north.

Michael Hopkin


Magnets strapped to pigeons' beaks stopped them from sensing the Earth's magnetic field.© Punchstock
It's official: homing pigeons really can sense Earth's magnetic field. An investigation of their ability to detect different magnetic fields shows that their impressive navigation skills almost certainly relies on tiny magnetic particles in their beaks.

“You don't need a large receptor structure like you do for the eye, because the magnetic field permeates everything. It's like finding a needle in a haystack.”
The discovery seems to settle the question of how pigeons (Columba livia) have such an impressive 'nose for north'. Some experts had previously suggested that the birds rely on different odour cues in the atmosphere to work out where they are. But the latest findings suggest that they are using magnetic cues.

The idea that pigeons' beaks contain tiny particles of an iron oxide called magnetite is not a new one, says Cordula Mora, who led the latest study at the University of Auckland, New Zealand. But the particles themselves are likely to be only a few micrometres across, and no one has ever seen them under the microscope.

Mora's behavioural experiments therefore give the best indication yet that pigeons are aware of Earth's magnetic field. She and her colleagues taught the pigeons to discriminate between magnetic fields by placing them in a wooden tunnel with a feeder platform at either end and coils of wire around the outside.

Tunnel test

The pigeons were trained to go to one end of the tunnel if the coils were switched on, generating a magnetic field, and to the other if they were switched off, leaving Earth's natural field unperturbed. "I was pleasantly surprised. The pigeons were very fast learners," says Mora, now at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill.

Their skills were impaired, however, when the researchers attached magnets to their upper beaks, and also when the upper beak was anaesthetized. This suggests that their ability is down to the presence of magnetically sensitive material in this area, the researchers report in this week's Nature1.

The team then set about seeing how these magnetic signals might be transmitted to the birds' brains. When they severed the ophthalmic branch of the trigeminal nerve, which leads from the upper beak to the brain, the birds were unable to distinguish between natural and perturbed magnetic fields. But when the olfactory nerve, which carries smell signals, was cut instead, the birds performed fine, dealing a seemingly fatal blow to the idea that they navigate by relying on odours.

Nose for navigation

The results sit well with previous studies of another impressive navigator, the rainbow trout. The species both seem to have a system in which signals from magnetite particles are carried from the nose to the brain by the trigeminal nerve, says Mora. This is not surprising, she says, as iron-containing materials are common in many animals' bodies.

So why has nobody seen the particles? Other researchers are looking for them, Mora says. But the problem is that even though we know where to look, they are elusive because of their small size and the fact that many other biological materials, such as blood, contain iron.

The particles are small because there's no reason why they should be any larger, Mora adds. "You don't need a large receptor structure like you do for the eye, because the magnetic field permeates everything," she says. "It's like a needle in a haystack."

https://www.nature.com/news/2004/041...s041122-7.html
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Physicist
05-05-2019, 06:34 PM
Yes, birds are known for having magnetic sense. Ferromagnetic particles when small enough forms single domain of same spin orientation and therefore are natural magnets.

As for the water searching, I think there is no special sense invooved, ordinary intuition based on extra data. Those rods only helps one to detouch from logics. Seen this about 30years ago.
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Abz2000
05-05-2019, 07:15 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Physicist
Yes, birds are known for having magnetic sense. Ferromagnetic particles when small enough forms single domain of same spin orientation and therefore are natural magnets.

As for the water searching, I think there is no special sense invooved, ordinary intuition based on extra data. Those rods only helps one to detouch from logics. Seen this about 30years ago.
This is simply musing on possibilities from different angles and is in no way intended to be presented as undisputed fact.
If birds and dolphins and other biological organisms are evolving from the same pool by Allah's leave (which i belelieve to be the case), other creatures - including humans - may well possess strengths and weaknesses in different traits depending on how effectively they learn to focus whilst cancelling out "noise" data - especially given the fact that all of our (creatures') bodies contain traces of most - if not all - of the minerals found in each other.

I'm not saying that abdul muttalib knew where to look in both instances because he had built in l-rods, but that he may have been gifted with a knack for sensing water - and that the dream from Allah :swt: was working in concert with the gifts that He gave him - which were demonstrated on the second find in the desert.
Simply wondering - since the video reminded me of the story in the desert which had had me wondering at the time - and since Allah :swt: works through and chooses the correct people and languages for the correct job in mysterious ways.

Have you ever felt the energy of someone staring at and focusing on you from behind you - even if from far away?

There is definitely charged data running through the body as it passes water, and the birds' and dolphins' ancestors would have had to fine tune the ability to concentrate the useful metal and interpret the data over generations if biological evolution is true (which i believe to be the case), just as snakes would have chosen to be content with a primitive head and backbone/tail as they focused on developing fangs and poison whilst other creatures used their God given intellects to advance peacefully and get more done where possible.
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