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Nitro Zeus
06-09-2019, 10:44 AM
Assalamu alaikum,

It may sound weird questions. Someone on Stack Exchange asked these questions:

1. Can Allah go against Quran?

2. Can Allah take any created thing out of the creation with out destroying it or uncreating it?

I'm struggling to find the answer that user is looking for, but I could not find any site about this.

I was wondering if you could help me find the answers for these 2 questions? So that I can answer his questions.
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HisServant
06-19-2019, 02:51 AM
wa alaikum assalaam,

"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion."
- Surah Al-Ma'ida verse 3


"Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian"

-Surah Al-Hijr verse 9

I believe these above two verses demonstrates that the Quran is completed and guarded. Since, it is completed, unlike previous books by which the message of truth has been distorted, it implies that everything within is authentic and not subjected to being changed. Our creator isn't going to go against the Quran or allow such an understanding to be permissible without being challenged/deterred by those He has appointed as protectors, whether Angels, Jinns or men. (agents of guardianship)


No 2. Not sure. It doesn't really make sense to me. Allah is the only entity that remains uncreated, everything other will be taken into/part of creation, even if it is heaven or hell.
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masidurrahman68
06-19-2019, 04:05 AM
Thanks for the information brother....
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masidurrahman68
06-19-2019, 04:05 AM
Originally Posted by HisServant
wa alaikum assalaam,

"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion."
- Surah Al-Ma'ida verse 3


"Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian"

-Surah Al-Hijr verse 9

I believe these above two verses demonstrates that the Quran is completed and guarded. Since, it is completed, unlike previous books by which the message of truth has been distorted, it implies that everything within is authentic and not subjected to being changed. Our creator isn't going to go against the Quran or allow such an understanding to be permissible without being challenged/deterred by those He has appointed as protectors, whether Angels, Jinns or men. (agents of guardianship)


No 2. Not sure. It doesn't really make sense to me. Allah is the only entity that remains uncreated, everything other will be taken into/part of creation, even if it is heaven or hell.
Thanks for the information brother...
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Physicist
06-19-2019, 11:35 AM
@Nitro Zeus , brother, I suggest you to abstain from sophisticated discussions with disbelievers until you will be able to comprehend their motives and way of thinking.
Perhaps there is mostly trolling in that conversation.

Regarding questions.
1. Can you break your computer/smartphone which you use to post here? Yes, of course.
Will you do so? I think not.
The same, Quran is the part of the creation. Allah can do everything he want, but evrything in creation is reasonable.

2. To take where? Everything apart of Allah is Creation and Allah is singularity.

Perhaps they mean making copy of the thing without destroying. Anything can be copied in classical sense, but not the quantum state of course (perhaps what trolling is about).

To uncreate is what is created - perhaps about erasing the past - no in physical sense.
But it may happen that for example we were misinformed about death of the friend and miraculously he appeared alive.

Kind of sophisticated version of old atheist trolling, to "prove" that God is not Almighty.
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Ümit
06-19-2019, 02:28 PM
they ask these kind of questions because they still cannot understand what omnipotent is. unawarely they do not accept that we humans don't even have the ability to comprehend what infinity, and limitless and omnipotent means. they still imagine somehow God being a giant human like creature sitting on a cloud....and somehow managing all earth processes and observing us from above....and then steering and finetuning ad hoc on places where needed. like we do with our ant farm. of cource with limits...and once in a while making errors and so...

similar questions are for exmple this classical question
1. Can God create a rock so big that even he cannot lift?

they refuse to think that God doesn't lift at all.
Creator and creation are two separate "dimensions". you cannot just compare those with each other.
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MazharShafiq
06-19-2019, 06:21 PM
Originally Posted by HisServant
wa alaikum assalaam,

"This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion."
- Surah Al-Ma'ida verse 3


"Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian"

-Surah Al-Hijr verse 9

I believe these above two verses demonstrates that the Quran is completed and guarded. Since, it is completed, unlike previous books by which the message of truth has been distorted, it implies that everything within is authentic and not subjected to being changed. Our creator isn't going to go against the Quran or allow such an understanding to be permissible without being challenged/deterred by those He has appointed as protectors, whether Angels, Jinns or men. (agents of guardianship)


No 2. Not sure. It doesn't really make sense to me. Allah is the only entity that remains uncreated, everything other will be taken into/part of creation, even if it is heaven or hell.
yes it is right answer.Allah can do everything just saying..kun ..
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HisServant
06-20-2019, 05:10 PM
Al-Lawh: al-Lawh al-Mahfooz, as in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning), (Inscribed) in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz (the Preserved Tablet) [al-Burooj 85:22] means, the place where the decrees of Allaah are kept.

Every wide bone is a lawh.
The plural form is alwaah.

(Lisaan al-Arab, 2/584).
2. Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
in al-Lawh al-Mahfooz (the Preserved Tablet) means, It is among the higher group (i.e., angels), preserved and protected from anything being added or taken away, or any alteration or changes.
(Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 4/497, 498).
3. Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
Preserved: most readers recite this with a kasrah, i.e., it is a description of the Lawh. This indicates that the shayaateen are not able to bring it down, because its location is protected and they cannot reach it. And it is itself protected, so the Shaytaan cannot add anything to it or take anything away from it.
Allaah, may He be glorified, has described it as protected or guarded in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning):
Verily, We, it is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Quraan) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption). [al-Hijr 15:9]. And its location is also described as being guarded in this soorah.
Allaah, may He be glorified, is protecting its location, and protecting it from having anything added or taken away, or being distorted. He is protecting its meanings from being twisted, just as He is protecting its words from being changed, and He is protecting its letters so that nothing is added or taken away.
(al-Tabyaan fi Aqsaam al-Quraan, p. 62).

What is al-lawh al-mahfooz?

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