How do I know which the correct path?

[SintoDinto]

How do I know which is the correct Islam? How do I know if I am on the correct path? So many different paths claim to be the truth?

[Ümit]

what do you mean? which "other paths" are you referring to?

[SintoDinto]

what do you mean? which "other paths" are you referring to?

I was brought up Gulenist, but began questioning it from an early age, but to be fair, much of had to do with my atheist tendencies and my being hooked on porn and trying to date women in the movement, then I was kicked out of youth activities at a young age before 17/25 events and later became a salafi, then i became a nurcu, then i became a gulenist again, then i switched back and forth between sufism, nurculuk, salafism, deobandi, etc. right now im considering leaving gulenism again, but all my friends are in gulenism, but considering all the emotional abuse i went through because of them, and some of the thing i question, im out. but even if i left id still be able to keep my friends in gulen cemaat, but if i left and became salafi, they, being liberal, might consider be strange.

[Revert alYunani]

How do I know which is the correct Islam? How do I know if I am on the correct path? So many different paths claim to be the truth?

Well the straight path is following the Quran and Sunnah.If you see yourself following them the way they are,liking what Allah likes and disliking what Allah dislikes,and obeying and accepting what Allah and his messenger has commanded,even if you dont agree or dont like any of these,then theres a lot of chance you are in the straight path.
In surah Fatiha we ask Allah to guide us in the straight path,not in the path or the christians or the jews.Christians dont even have their original book,eveything in their religion has changed,everything is bidah,and jews were too arrogant and trying to find ways to 'justify' their actions,so they could follow their desires.So staying away from any innovation and following your desires,and putting Quran and sunnah first no matter the situation,then you are in the straight path in shaa Allah.
What helps for me is always making duaa to Allah to guide me,to guide me in religion and in my worldy affairs.
Anyway this is my opinion.Allah knows best ofc.

what do you mean? which "other paths" are you referring to?

he means that there are many groups trying to be the rightly guided.

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[Flos]

Brother, if you have any doubts in path you're following or any other, just simply ask Allah to guide you and Allah will guide you!

The best way is to do salaat or just sajda asking Him this. Then you'll know.

When you get there inshaAllah, then make dua from Surah 3 (Ali Imran), ayaat 16

[Revert alYunani]

Brother, if you have any doubts in path you're following or any other, just simply ask Allah to guide you and Allah will guide you!

The best way is to do salaat or just sajda asking Him this. Then you'll know.

When you get there inshaAllah, then make dua from Surah 3 (Ali Imran), ayaat 16

Duaa from Quran 3:201 too ... Is really good i always do it

[Abrars]

I was brought up Gulenist, but began questioning it from an early age, but to be fair, much of had to do with my atheist tendencies and my being hooked on porn and trying to date women in the movement, then I was kicked out of youth activities at a young age before 17/25 events and later became a salafi, then i became a nurcu, then i became a gulenist again, then i switched back and forth between sufism, nurculuk, salafism, deobandi, etc. right now im considering leaving gulenism again, but all my friends are in gulenism, but considering all the emotional abuse i went through because of them, and some of the thing i question, im out. but even if i left id still be able to keep my friends in gulen cemaat, but if i left and became salafi, they, being liberal, might consider be strange.

You are a rolling stone bro ! Best of luck with your new identity . One simple suggestion , this time try to be a Muslim . No Gulenist , no Salafi , no Shia , no Sunni , just a simple Muslim . How would you become a Muslim ? Again very simple; follow the Qur'an . That will make your life easy .

[017:009] Verily this Quran doth guide to that which is most right (or stable), and giveth the Glad Tidings to the Believers who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a magnificent reward;

[Islami.Mu'mina]

I was brought up Gulenist, but began questioning it from an early age, but to be fair, much of had to do with my atheist tendencies and my being hooked on porn and trying to date women in the movement, then I was kicked out of youth activities at a young age before 17/25 events and later became a salafi, then i became a nurcu, then i became a gulenist again, then i switched back and forth between sufism, nurculuk, salafism, deobandi, etc. right now im considering leaving gulenism again, but all my friends are in gulenism, but considering all the emotional abuse i went through because of them, and some of the thing i question, im out. but even if i left id still be able to keep my friends in gulen cemaat, but if i left and became salafi, they, being liberal, might consider be strange.

Brother are you having doubts? Remember that you were the one who tried to reassure me when I had doubts. Think about that. Deep down, you know what's right, you have to keep hanging in there, if you need more advice we can help

[Revert alYunani]

STAY AWAY FROM GROUPS !
I tend to be more salafi,and i like salafi a lot as they are very strong against innovations and tend to be conservative than others.But i never call myself salafi.Dont call yourself by any name rather than muslim,muslim sunni,and dont follow groups but follow the Quran and the Sunnah.Follow the most respected scholars.How are you following a group named from a guy who doesnt even have a beard? The prophet saws advices us to trim the moustache and leave the beards,but this guy trims the beard and leave the moustache.I mean if you are going against the teachings of the prophet for smth so little,imagine for other things.Stay away please,and stay away from those friends.Say salam alaikum and if you see them greet them,as in islam we shouldnt cut ties,but stay away from being a group with them.You will lose from the straight path if you stay with them.

It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”

I was brought up Gulenist, but began questioning it from an early age, but to be fair, much of had to do with my atheist tendencies and my being hooked on porn and trying to date women in the movement, then I was kicked out of youth activities at a young age before 17/25 events and later became a salafi, then i became a nurcu, then i became a gulenist again, then i switched back and forth between sufism, nurculuk, salafism, deobandi, etc. right now im considering leaving gulenism again, but all my friends are in gulenism, but considering all the emotional abuse i went through because of them, and some of the thing i question, im out. but even if i left id still be able to keep my friends in gulen cemaat, but if i left and became salafi, they, being liberal, might consider be strange.

[Abrars]

STAY AWAY FROM GROUPS !
I tend to be more salafi,and i like salafi a lot as they are very strong against innovations and tend to be conservative than others.But i never call myself salafi.Dont call yourself by any name rather than muslim,muslim sunni,and dont follow groups but follow the Quran and the Sunnah.Follow the most respected scholars.How are you following a group named from a guy who doesnt even have a beard? The prophet saws advices us to trim the moustache and leave the beards,but this guy trims the beard and leave the moustache.I mean if you are going against the teachings of the prophet for smth so little,imagine for other things.Stay away please,and stay away from those friends.Say salam alaikum and if you see them greet them,as in islam we shouldnt cut ties,but stay away from being a group with them.You will lose from the straight path if you stay with them.

It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”

Yet , Salafi is another group !:D

[Ümit]

STAY AWAY FROM GROUPS !
I tend to be more salafi,and i like salafi a lot as they are very strong against innovations and tend to be conservative than others.But i never call myself salafi.Dont call yourself by any name rather than muslim,muslim sunni,and dont follow groups but follow the Quran and the Sunnah.Follow the most respected scholars.How are you following a group named from a guy who doesnt even have a beard? The prophet saws advices us to trim the moustache and leave the beards,but this guy trims the beard and leave the moustache.I mean if you are going against the teachings of the prophet for smth so little,imagine for other things.Stay away please,and stay away from those friends.Say salam alaikum and if you see them greet them,as in islam we shouldnt cut ties,but stay away from being a group with them.You will lose from the straight path if you stay with them.

It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”

Advise: Stay away from groups...
*joins Salafi group*
Advise: follow the most respected scholars
*thinks that the most respected scholars like Hanafi, Shafi, Hanbali, Maliki are not good enough*

Something is not right here

[Revert alYunani]

Yet , Salafi is another group !

Advise: Stay away from groups...
*joins Salafi group*
Advise: follow the most respected scholars
*thinks that the most respected scholars like Hanafi, Shafi, Hanbali, Maliki are not good enough*

Thanks for making my post less credible.Next time please read my message and try to understand.I will write it many times again,i hope you can understand it or at least read it.

I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.

I think i already said that i dont call myself salafi,so how did i join the salafi according to you?
And where did i say scholars like Hanafi Shafi etc are not good enough? I didnt mention any of them.For every case i get the opinions of all madhabs and follow the one my heart feels its right.Let me tell you again that i dont associate myself with any group before you make me *join another group*

[Abrars]

Thanks for making my post less credible.Next time please read my message and try to understand.I will write it many times again,i hope you can understand it or at least read it.

I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.

I think i already said that i dont call myself salafi,so how did i join the salafi according to you?
And where did i say scholars like Hanafi Shafi etc are not good enough? I didnt mention any of them.For every case i get the opinions of all madhabs and follow the one my heart feels its right.Let me tell you again that i dont associate myself with any group before you make me *join another group*

Forgive me if I have hurt your feelings:Emoji1: . I just tried to point out that even Slalafi is another human-created sect/group in Islam like any others . Hence all of them should be equally abandoned . ALLAH swt staunchly instructed in Qur'an not to divide Islam into sects and be called 'Muslim' , without designating it to any sect ( Salafi Muslim , Hanafi Muslim etc.) .

[Revert alYunani]

Forgive me if I have hurt your feelings:Emoji1: . I just tried to point out that even Slalafi is another human-created sect/group in Islam like any others . Hence all of them should be equally abandoned . ALLAH swt staunchly instructed in Qur'an not to divide Islam into sects and be called 'Muslim' , without designating it to any sect ( Salafi Muslim , Hanafi Muslim etc.) .

how can i forgive you for this???? lool dw,you dont even have to apologise.I am not angry or sad or whatever.I was just very annoyed cuz i just woke up and i read that lol.But i shouldnt have replied like that so i apologise too.
Yes ofc,we need madhabs to understand the religion better.We need scholars to explain it to us,but sticking blindly to a madhab or joining into groups thats not what Allah and the prophet saws told us to do.Muslims should be all one.

[Islami.Mu'mina]

I do the same thing as well, most serious Muslims who follow Quran and Sunnah tend to be just like the salafis in many ways. I don't call myself a salafi though because I'd rather just call myself Muslim rather than splitting. And I will always research my information rather than automatically following an opinion just because a salafi scholar follows it

[Abrars]

how can i forgive you for this???? lool dw,you dont even have to apologise.I am not angry or sad or whatever.I was just very annoyed cuz i just woke up and i read that lol.But i shouldnt have replied like that so i apologise too.
Yes ofc,we need madhabs to understand the religion better.We need scholars to explain it to us,but sticking blindly to a madhab or joining into groups thats not what Allah and the prophet saws told us to do.Muslims should be all one.

May The Almighty bless you my brother .

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I do the same thing as well, most serious Muslims who follow Quran and Sunnah tend to be just like the salafis in many ways. I don't call myself a salafi though because I'd rather just call myself Muslim rather than splitting. And I will always research my information rather than automatically following an opinion just because a salafi scholar follows it

Stay blessed sis.

[manofIslam]

Brother, if you have any doubts in path you're following or any other, just simply ask Allah to guide you and Allah will guide you!

The best way is to do salaat or just sajda asking Him this. Then you'll know.

When you get there inshaAllah, then make dua from Surah 3 (Ali Imran), ayaat 16

Excellent advice, sister!

[manofIslam]

Duaa from Quran 3:201 too ... Is really good i always do it

Brother: Do you mean QURAN 3:200?

[Revert alYunani]

Brother: Do you mean QURAN 3:200?

i mean 2:201 sorry :D

[manofIslam]

i mean 2:201 sorry :D

No worries at all, Bro!

[Ümit]

Thanks for making my post less credible.Next time please read my message and try to understand.I will write it many times again,i hope you can understand it or at least read it.

I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
I tend to be more salafi,But i never call myself salafi.
But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.But i never call myself salafi.

I think i already said that i dont call myself salafi,so how did i join the salafi according to you?
And where did i say scholars like Hanafi Shafi etc are not good enough? I didnt mention any of them.For every case i get the opinions of all madhabs and follow the one my heart feels its right.Let me tell you again that i dont associate myself with any group before you make me *join another group*

I am sorry I misunderstood you brother.

I now realize that is was my own lack of knowledge for my mean post.

I never understood how one can pick and choose different opinions from each madhab and still not be guilty of doing Talfiq.
I understand now that it is possible under certain circumstances...and that is how you can stay neutral without joining a certain madhab.

That is however way beyond my level of knowledge.
I would not be able to distuinguish which opinion of which madhab is based on stronger evidence for a certain topic, and therefore I would be guilty of doing Talfiq pretty quickly.
So for me, it is much safer to join one of the madhabs and keep it that way.

[Revert alYunani]

I am sorry I misunderstood you brother.

I now realize that is was my own lack of knowledge for my mean post.

I never understood how one can pick and choose different opinions from each madhab and still not be guilty of doing Talfiq.
I understand now that it is possible under certain circumstances...and that is how you can stay neutral without joining a certain madhab.

That is however way beyond my level of knowledge.
I would not be able to distuinguish which opinion of which madhab is based on stronger evidence for a certain topic, and therefore I would be guilty of doing Talfiq pretty quickly.
So for me, it is much safer to join one of the madhabs and keep it that way.

Talfiq is when you fuse two opinions together.But if they are on different cases,it makes no sense doing talfiq.
Ill give you an example for all of this so you can understand my point of view.And dont need to apologise or anything,we all have lack of knowledge and we all misunderstand each other sometimes.Its okay,sorry for making a mean reply too.

Now for example according to shafi your wudu is broken if you touch a female,including your own mother.
According to hanafi this does not break your wudu.

According to Shafi you can eat shrimps
But according to Hanafi you cant eat shrimps.

Now if i believe touching a woman,especially mother or sister if i had it wouldnt break my wudu.And i believe i can eat shrimps.This is what my heart believes.So in the first case i follow the hanafi but in the second case i follow the shafi. If i were to say i am hanafi then i would have to be forced to not eat shrimps despite believing they are permissable,and if i were shafi i would have to take wudu from the begining if i touched my mother.There are tons of cases like this.
For me is nonlogical following one school of thought blindly.I dont know any of the famous scholars to advise this.And moreover following a madhab blindly brings nothing but fitnah.You can see everywhere on internet muslims arguing about madhabs,members of one madhab rejecting to pray behind an imam who has another madhab,and what i have seen myself in real life salafis and hanbalis arguing so much that they would not even say salam to each other,and ended up with a salafi guy being beaten in the masjid.I had friends from both sides and the hate they had for each other was amazing.They hated each other more than kafirs.

[Ümit]

Talfiq is when you fuse two opinions together.But if they are on different cases,it makes no sense doing talfiq.Ill give you an example for all of this so you can understand my point of view.And dont need to apologise or anything,we all have lack of knowledge and we all misunderstand each other sometimes.Its okay,sorry for making a mean reply too.Now for example according to shafi your wudu is broken if you touch a female,including your own mother.According to hanafi this does not break your wudu.According to Shafi you can eat shrimpsBut according to Hanafi you cant eat shrimps.Now if i believe touching a woman,especially mother or sister if i had it wouldnt break my wudu.And i believe i can eat shrimps.This is what my heart believes.So in the first case i follow the hanafi but in the second case i follow the shafi. If i were to say i am hanafi then i would have to be forced to not eat shrimps despite believing they are permissable,and if i were shafi i would have to take wudu from the begining if i touched my mother.There are tons of cases like this.For me is nonlogical following one school of thought blindly.I dont know any of the famous scholars to advise this.And moreover following a madhab blindly brings nothing but fitnah.You can see everywhere on internet muslims arguing about madhabs,members of one madhab rejecting to pray behind an imam who has another madhab,and what i have seen myself in real life salafis and hanbalis arguing so much that they would not even say salam to each other,and ended up with a salafi guy being beaten in the masjid.I had friends from both sides and the hate they had for each other was amazing.They hated each other more than kafirs.

Thanks for taking the patience to explain it to me brother. So far I understood.

But now comes the confusing part:

(I am absolutely not attacking you, so please do not be mad at me...but) Isn't that exactly what you are doing? Lets suppose in this example:

Person A wants to make it extra convenient for himself so he picks out the easiest of the opinions:
touching mother doesn't break wudu and eating schrimps are allowed.

Person B wants to take the secure road, so he picks out the most difficult road:
Touching mother breaks wudu and eating schrimps are not allowed

Person C compares the evidences of whether touching mother breaks wudu and whether eating schrimps is allowed or not and comes to the conclusion:
touching mother doesn't break wudu and eating schrimps is not allowed

Now in these cases:
- Aren't both person A and person B doing Talfiq because they both pick and choose the rulings they want
- How can person C be sure to make an objective decision between different evidences because in the most cases the opinions would be approximately equally strong and both come from equally reliable and much respected scholars. So person C tries to choose the rulings with best evidences among the madhabs, but does not have the needed knowledge to do that objectively.
- So, indirectly...person C ends up with also doing Talfiq because he still picks and chooses what his heart wants.

Again, please do not be mad at me...I just want to understand...

[Revert alYunani]

Thanks for taking the patience to explain it to me brother. So far I understood.

But now comes the confusing part:

(I am absolutely not attacking you, so please do not be mad at me...but) Isn't that exactly what you are doing? Lets suppose in this example:

Person A wants to make it extra convenient for himself so he picks out the easiest of the opinions:
touching mother doesn't break wudu and eating schrimps are allowed.

Person B wants to take the secure road, so he picks out the most difficult road:
Touching mother breaks wudu and eating schrimps are not allowed

Person C compares the evidences of whether touching mother breaks wudu and whether eating schrimps is allowed or not and comes to the conclusion:
touching mother doesn't break wudu and eating schrimps is not allowed

Now in these cases:
- Aren't both person A and person B doing Talfiq because they both pick and choose the rulings they want
- How can person C be sure to make an objective decision between different evidences because in the most cases the opinions would be approximately equally strong and both come from equally reliable and much respected scholars. So person C tries to choose the rulings with best evidences among the madhabs, but does not have the needed knowledge to do that objectively.
- So, indirectly...person C ends up with also doing Talfiq because he still picks and chooses what his heart wants.

Again, please do not be mad at me...I just want to understand...

Salam alaikum

I wont be mad at you lol.We are here to learn and discuss so opposing each other in respectful way its alright.Dont worry,you can always say what you feel and think.
Now i wont reply to the situation you explained because it seems a bit complicated to give the best solution to that so i will give you another example to make it simple to understand.

Talfiq is fussion of two opinions.Meaning merging what one madhab says and what another madhab says and thus creating your own ruling which is different from all madhabs.
Merging shrimps and wudhu makes no sense because shrimps and wudhu are not related in any way.

But when do we make talfiq?
When it comes to one case.For example Wudhu.
Hanafi says that blood being spilled breaks the wudhu,and touching the wife doesnt break wudhu.
Shafi says blood being spilled doesnt break wudhu,but touching the wife breaks wudhu.
Now if you will either follow hanafi or shafi. If you says blood being spilled doesnt break wudhu (shafi) and touching the wife doesnt break wudhu either (hanafi) then this is talfiq,because you are merging two opinions for the same case,and your conclusion doesnt match any madhab.

But eating shrimps is another different case. So if we were to talk about sea food,and you want to eat all kind of sea food as this is what you believe more from the evidences,then you can follow shafi which allows eating of all sea food.And you can follow hanafi when it comes to wudhu because you believe touching your wife doesnt break wudhu.And then when it comes to prayer and the way you pray,you can follow another madhab as prayer,shrimps and wudhu are not connected to each other.

You get what i mean? You can switch because they are different cases,same with every other case.But if we were to follow one madhab blindly,then we would go agaisnt our beliefs and we would be uncomfortable and would make religion harder,not to mention the fitnah that is happening because of following madhabs blindly and proudly labeling themselves with them.That is why i am against groups and i dont follow any madhab.Allahu Alem though.

[peaceandlove]

How do I know which is the correct Islam? How do I know if I am on the correct path? So many different paths claim to be the truth?

Brother, there can be more then on path to reach on destination

You must had to sure if you are using the right path that it, and right path is clear, just make sure to your best that you are following Allah and His prophet Muhammad Salalhualiwasalam and might be for some thing you find more then one paths and both are correct ,

[MazharShafiq]

Quraan teach us right path.