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SMC04
10-14-2023, 02:47 AM
I left Islam after conversion in 2016. I had repeatedly expressed concerns with the idea of hell and got reprimanded for it by my peers. Both online and in person.I guess I'm here to converse with Muslims and hopefully not get laid into. I am currently a Christian and concerning afterlife I do not yet know what I believe. I'd like to have a better view on Islam and a better relationship with Muslims. So I'm here. Thanks everyone.
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Sunshineday
10-17-2023, 11:28 PM
Hell is forever, the sins of anyone is not that great that they will force Allah to undo what he has created. The sinful person goes to Hell forever and they are then the fuel for the fire. The fires worship Allah. There are 9 angels running Hell. Satan does not run hell and will be thrown in there.

Nobody's love opens the gates of Paradise. The angels are not singing about you in Heaven. People have elevated themselves to such importance thinking that just because someone cared about them, they are now being watched by them in Heaven-where have they received this revelation? There has been no religious texts to say if you love someone so much, they will care about you when they are dead.

People should have elevated the one God. not themselves. You are not important and those who don't repent will go to Hell, the people in Paradise will not be miserable because of their own actions.
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anatolian
10-17-2023, 11:43 PM
Welcome back. Hell is simply a place for punishment for sins and Heaven is a place for reward for good deeds. Thats it as far as I know.
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Ümit
10-18-2023, 08:23 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by SMC04
I left Islam after conversion in 2016. I had repeatedly expressed concerns with the idea of hell and got reprimanded for it by my peers. Both online and in person.I guess I'm here to converse with Muslims and hopefully not get laid into. I am currently a Christian and concerning afterlife I do not yet know what I believe. I'd like to have a better view on Islam and a better relationship with Muslims. So I'm here. Thanks everyone.
So, what exactly is your issue with hell? specify it and we can discuss it.
And I am curious about your decision to choose christianity over Islaam.
I do not know the reason for it, but I highly doubt it was a rational one.
But we can discuss that also.
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anayaxabir
01-28-2024, 08:29 PM
just saying islam is the true religion
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SMC04
01-29-2024, 01:27 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Ümit
So, what exactly is your issue with hell? specify it and we can discuss it.
And I am curious about your decision to choose christianity over Islaam.
I do not know the reason for it, but I highly doubt it was a rational one.
But we can discuss that also.
No thanks. We're not discussing anything.
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SMC04
01-29-2024, 01:31 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by Sunshineday
Hell is forever, the sins of anyone is not that great that they will force Allah to undo what he has created. The sinful person goes to Hell forever and they are then the fuel for the fire. The fires worship Allah. There are 9 angels running Hell. Satan does not run hell and will be thrown in there.

Nobody's love opens the gates of Paradise. The angels are not singing about you in Heaven. People have elevated themselves to such importance thinking that just because someone cared about them, they are now being watched by them in Heaven-where have they received this revelation? There has been no religious texts to say if you love someone so much, they will care about you when they are dead.

People should have elevated the one God. not themselves. You are not important and those who don't repent will go to Hell, the people in Paradise will not be miserable because of their own actions.
That is really, really bad theology. I cannot imagine what it's like walking around thinking like that, holding that kind of attitude and worldview. Just yuck.
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Ümit
01-29-2024, 07:37 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by SMC04
No thanks. We're not discussing anything.
I already figured out that you wouldn't. There is not one single rational argument you could make to choose Christianity over Islaam.

But then...if not discuss, what are you looking for here?
You come to an islamic discussion forum, create an account...think out an account name, create a nem thread...for what?
To show us how bitter you are?
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Sunshineday
03-09-2024, 10:12 AM
format_quote Originally Posted by SMC04
That is really, really bad theology. I cannot imagine what it's like walking around thinking like that, holding that kind of attitude and worldview. Just yuck.

Don't think your statement mentions any thing about what is there to disagree with the statement? We not kids in primary school to say yuck to food-grow up and stop elevating yourself over everything else that Allah has taught-in your belief you placed Judeo-Christan belief-so what is that you believe should happen to evil doers??
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