Originally Posted by j4763
First problem, we believe the Torah today is not the Torah that moses PBUh had, and we don't have an authentic collection of his saying, so who knows what he said.
Either way, if you read my post, you would have seen he is a muslim by definition, that is by what a muslim means. Somebody who submitts himself to God's way, and worships God according to God's rules, without believing God has any partners
The early followers of moses and Jesus PBUH were by definition muslim, they followed the correct teachings that these two messengers taught, but after this early generation a lot of the laws were changed by men and today we as muslims don't believe these are the same teachings that these Prophets preached, so they are no longer muslims.
I mean Jesus PBUH is the perfect example, he was circumcised, didn't eat pork, didn't drink, had a beard, prayed and prostrated like we do today, but yet his followers don't, they changed the laws and brought new ones, do you now see what i mean?