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Hamba Allah
04-28-2006, 03:24 PM
Is it?
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syilla
04-28-2006, 03:26 PM
here in malaysia... there is fatwa saying it is haram..
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*noor
04-28-2006, 03:27 PM
most scholars say its haram.
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04-28-2006, 03:27 PM
Yes it is and there is already a thread on this somewhere, hold on i will get it for u inshallah
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04-28-2006, 03:28 PM
Here u go
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04-28-2006, 03:29 PM
KHALDUN

For the people who dont think its haram then I suggest you prepare your excuses to tell Allah the day your resurrected and with that...

On the day that Allah will raise them up all, then they will swear to Him as they swear to you, and they think that they have something; now surely they are the liars.

The Shaitan has gained the mastery over them, so he has made them forget the remembrance of Allah; they are the Shaitan's party; now surely the Shaitan's party are the losers. [Surah Mujadilah Ayah 18-19]
:) :) :)
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Hamba Allah
04-28-2006, 03:30 PM
Aha I see. Syilla, I do live in Malaysia. And if there is a fatwa saying it is haram, then how come the JAIS didn't do any strong actions about it? Because the amount of Muslim smokers are big here.
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04-28-2006, 03:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Islamic Kuri
Read this link.
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*noor
04-28-2006, 03:31 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamba Allah
Aha I see. Syilla, I do live in Malaysia. And if there is a fatwa saying it is haram, then how come the JAIS didn't do any strong actions about it? Because the amount of Muslim smokers are big here.

just because a lot of people do it, that doesn't make it permissable. no benefit comes with smoking so how can it be halal???
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syilla
04-28-2006, 03:32 PM
dunno why... but ulama' in Selangor already saying haram...

you can check it out if you want...

i'm not lying
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04-28-2006, 03:33 PM
Hello Am I Being Ignored In This Thread?!
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Hamba Allah
04-28-2006, 03:34 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Islamic Kuri
Hello Am I Being Ignored In This Thread?!
Absolutely not. Kuri, it was your post that explained everything to me. Now I know why smoking is haram and so on. Thanks Kuri
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syilla
04-28-2006, 03:35 PM
if it is haram... for sure is not permitted

*this is purely my own opinion
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Hamba Allah
04-28-2006, 03:37 PM
How about Sisha, is it haram too?
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*noor
04-28-2006, 03:38 PM
i think that anything that harms the body is haram.
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Hamba Allah
04-28-2006, 03:40 PM
But In Saudi Arabia or Iran or wherever, do they still sell cigarettes and do they still serve sisha?
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*noor
04-28-2006, 03:41 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamba Allah
But In Saudi Arabia or Iran or wherever, do they still sell cigarettes and do they still serve sisha?

yeah.....so??

that doesnt make it halal.
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Hamba Allah
04-28-2006, 03:47 PM
So let me get this, it is haram but you can still sell or buy it?
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syilla
04-28-2006, 03:49 PM
yup... is like trying to take your own life
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Hamba Allah
04-28-2006, 03:51 PM
I'm confused. Something that is already been labeled haram but you can still use it.

Where is Kuri? I really need his help here
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*noor
04-28-2006, 03:52 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamba Allah
So let me get this, it is haram but you can still sell or buy it?
i dont know about selling it or buying it about cigarrettes
but i know that alcohol is haram even to sell or buy.
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*noor
04-28-2006, 03:53 PM
i would assume that the same goes for cigarrettes.
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04-28-2006, 03:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamba Allah
Absolutely not. Kuri, it was your post that explained everything to me. Now I know why smoking is haram and so on. Thanks Kuri
Oh ok. :embarrass

All gud :D
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04-28-2006, 03:54 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamba Allah
I'm confused. Something that is already been labeled haram but you can still use it.

Where is Kuri? I really need his help here
'Sup? And its 'HER' LOL :D
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Hamba Allah
04-28-2006, 03:54 PM
But if they don't sell alcohol because it is haram then what about cigarettes that also happens to be hara as well?
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04-28-2006, 03:55 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamba Allah
But if they don't sell alcohol because it is haram then what about cigarettes that also happens to be hara as well?
Are we talking about Saudi Arabia here?
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IbnAbdulHakim
04-28-2006, 04:00 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Hamba Allah
But if they don't sell alcohol because it is haram then what about cigarettes that also happens to be hara as well?
well its simply becoz there are certain corrupt scholars who hav taken a liking to cigarrettes so they dont see damaging your body slowly as haram you see. Its corruption, if u research on it the fact thats its haram is too clear. Its plain! Not even in between as sum doubtful matters are.

:sl: :) brother may Allah guide us all and protect us from bid'a :)
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syilla
04-28-2006, 04:01 PM
i'm sure is haram to sell or buy... but it is not easy to stop them from selling or buying. Is already part of their habit and addiction.

when there is a demand... there be a market for it
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Hamba Allah
04-28-2006, 04:02 PM
Hmm... I see, now that explains it all.

And Kuri, I was refering to Saudi Arabia because Saudi is the capital of Islamic City and I wondered whether they sell cigarettes there despite it being labeled as haram.
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04-28-2006, 05:15 PM
Yep they do but they gta make a living u gets me?
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madeenahsh
04-28-2006, 05:45 PM
Asallam alykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
InshAllah this audio link might help more to clarify your question

Wasallam alykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
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Umm Yoosuf
04-28-2006, 07:42 PM
:sl:

Same topic covered here :hmm:

http://www.islamicboard.com/health-s...hlight=smoking

Thus thread

:threadclo
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