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sonz
05-12-2006, 07:36 AM
Vice Premier Shimon Peres said Monday that "the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map."

"Teheran is making a mockery of the international community's efforts to solve the crisis surrounding Iran's nuclear program," Peres told Reuters, adding that "Iran presents a danger to the entire world, not just to us."

[For a Jerusalem Online video of events click here]

Peres's vehement expressions came the same day that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wrote to US President George W. Bush proposing "new solutions" to their differences in the first letter from an Iranian leader to an American president in 27 years, Iranian government spokesman Gholam-Hossein Elham said Monday.

In the letter, Ahmadinejad proposes "new solutions for getting out of international problems and current fragile situation of the world," Elham said.

Peres did not say who should act against Iran if it continues with its nuclear program, but implied military action should be led by the United States, pointing to the recent wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Israeli officials have indicated that Israel would join any international operation against Iran.

Peres urged China and Russia to join Western efforts to impose sanctions on Iran. The two countries have been reluctant to back such proposals in the UN Security Council. If all world powers are united against Iran, military action can be avoided, Peres said.

"We can prevent all of this threat, without weapons, if there will be unity," Peres said, adding that the Security Council had to act on the matter. "If the crucial moment comes and they are incapable of taking [action] or making a policy...then they endanger their existence as an important world body," he said.

Ahmadinejad's letter may also contain ideas on how to resolve the conflict over Iran's nuclear ambitions. Yet neither Teheran nor Washington provided any information regarding the content of the letter or the proposals it contains.

Iran's top nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani said Monday that the Iranian president's letter to Bush could create a "new diplomatic opening," but also warned that the letter did not reflect a softening in Iran's position.

Larijani refused to give details of the letter's content, but said, "Perhaps it could lead to a new diplomatic opening. It needs to be given some time."

"There is a need to wait before disclosing the content of the letter, let it make its diplomatic way," Larijani said in an interview with Turkey's NTV television.

Larijani added, however, that the "tone of the letter is not something like softening."

He also warned against any US attack against Iran.

"If they have a little bit of a brain, they would not commit such a mistake," he said. "Iran is not Iraq. Iraq was a weak country, it did not have a legitimate government. Iran is a powerful country."

The White House announced late Monday afternoon that the letter of Iranian president Mahmuod Ahmadinejad has arrived. Spokesman Fredrick Jones said that the National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley would be the one in charge of examining the Iranian letter.

It is the first time that an Iranian president has written to his US counterpart since 1979, when the two countries broke relations after Iranian militants stormed the US Embassy and held the occupants hostage for more than a year.

The US sees the letter as no more than an attempt to influence world opinion on the eve of a United Nations Security Council new resolution regarding Iran. John Negroponte, the head of the US intelligence, said Monday that "certainly one of the hypotheses you'd have to examine is whether and in what way the timing of the dispatch of that letter is connected with trying in some manner to influence the debate before the Security Council."

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will discuss the Iranian nuclear project this week with foreign ministers of the five permanent members of the UN Security Council and Germany, known as the P5+Germany group.

The US is trying to form a broad coalition which will support a new UN resolution under Chapter 7 of the UN charter that would include the threat of sanctions against Iran if it does not comply with international demands regarding its nuclear project. China and Russia still oppose such a resolution and wish to maintain a non-sanction approach to Iran.

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Bittersteel
05-12-2006, 07:39 AM
'Iran can also be wiped off the map'
true,Israel got about 300 nukes.
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Ghazi
05-12-2006, 08:19 AM
Originally Posted by Emir Aziz
true,Israel got about 300 nukes.
Salaam

They can have a billion nukes unless allah wills it to happen nothing will happen.
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Muezzin
05-12-2006, 10:47 AM
I don't need nukes to wipe countries off the map, just give me a globe and a hammer :p
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minaz
05-12-2006, 10:51 AM
Israel: 'Iran can also be wiped off the map'
This political crisis doesn't seem to be decreasing
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mizan_aliashraf
05-12-2006, 10:52 AM
Salam
Of course Israel can wipe Iran off the map. It's not even a question. I see they're doing all they can to wipe Palestine off the map aswell.
Iran's strength is nothing in comparison with Israel.
We should leave the destruction of Israel down to Allah
Wassalam
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IceQueen~
05-12-2006, 10:58 AM
did you know that in the past when jews (muslims of their time) were in jerusalem -it included all the area from the river of egypt (suez canal) to the river euphrates in iraq-this area includes 5 dif. countries:
1-afghanistan
2-pakistan
3-iraq
4-iran
5-syria

isn't it such a coincidence that these are the 5 main countries that seem to be targeted by the US and israel? now i wonder why...?:X
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Syed Nizam
05-12-2006, 11:02 AM
Originally Posted by Emir Aziz
true,Israel got about 300 nukes.
There lies the hypocrisy of the International Community.

Israel got nukes, nothing is said about them.
Israel do not signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (& so does other country), nothing is said about them.

Iran insists on acquiring the nuclear technology for their energy needs, they are condemned as if they have actually possessed nuclear weapon.
Iran did signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, so many threats & sanctions have been proposed against them.

oh yeah, b4 i forget, some of us actually pointed out to the human rights record of Iran. As if the human rights record of Israel and the US is any better?

hahaha, what is becoming of the world today! Such a blatant hypocrisy in the helpless `world' today...
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IceQueen~
05-12-2006, 11:07 AM
Originally Posted by Syed Nizam
There lies the hypocrisy of the International Community.

Israel got nukes, nothing is said about them.
Israel do not signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (& so does other country), nothing is said about them.

Iran insists on acquiring the nuclear technology for their energy needs, they are condemned as if they have actually possessed nuclear weapon.
Iran did signed the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty, so many threats & sanctions have been proposed against them.

oh yeah, b4 i forget, some of us actually pointed out to the human rights record of Iran. As if the human rights record of Israel and the US is any better?

hahaha, what is becoming of the world today! Such a blatant hypocrisy in the helpless `world' today...
how right you are bro'! funny hardly anyone questions these things though isn't it?
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Darkseid
05-12-2006, 11:23 AM
I don't think anyone should be having nuclear weapons, because they seem make you more of a target than of self-defending nation.
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IceQueen~
05-12-2006, 11:25 AM
Originally Posted by Darkseid
I don't think anyone should be having nuclear weapons, because they seem make you more of a target than of self-defending nation.
hmm..well if NO ONE had nuclear weapons -i don't think there'd be a problem anyway..
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MinAhlilHadeeth
05-12-2006, 11:27 AM
Originally Posted by islam-truth
Salaam

They can have a billion nukes unless allah wills it to happen nothing will happen.
Sa7.
:w:
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MinAhlilHadeeth
05-12-2006, 11:28 AM
Originally Posted by Darkseid
I don't think anyone should be having nuclear weapons, because they seem make you more of a target than of self-defending nation.
Not if your Israel. You just get more funds from the US.
:w:
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IceQueen~
05-12-2006, 11:30 AM
Originally Posted by ~Mu'MiNaH~
Not if your Israel. You just get more funds from the US.
:w:
true sis!
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Muslim Soldier
05-12-2006, 11:50 AM
Originally Posted by Muezzin
I don't need nukes to wipe countries off the map, just give me a globe and a hammer :p
I wonder why nobody does this :giggling:
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HeiGou
05-12-2006, 05:46 PM
Originally Posted by marge1
did you know that in the past when jews (muslims of their time) were in jerusalem -it included all the area from the river of egypt (suez canal) to the river euphrates in iraq-this area includes 5 dif. countries:
1-afghanistan
2-pakistan
3-iraq
4-iran
5-syria

isn't it such a coincidence that these are the 5 main countries that seem to be targeted by the US and israel? now i wonder why...?:X
I have looked at a map. To me it looks as if Afghanistan and Pakistan are to the East of Iran. And Iran is to the East of Iraq. And the Euphrates river runs through Iraq. So how did those three countries end up in Israel?
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Joe98
05-13-2006, 01:09 AM
Originally Posted by islam-truth
Salaam
They can have a billion nukes unless allah wills it to happen nothing will happen.
Not true. People do good and people do evil. It has nothing to do with Allah.
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nimrod
05-13-2006, 04:08 AM
I am having a hard time making sense of this:

Of course Israel can wipe Iran off the map. It's not even a question. I see they're doing all they can to wipe Palestine off the map as well.
Iran's strength is nothing in comparison with Israel
”.

Thanks
Nimrod
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Muslim Soldier
05-13-2006, 10:53 AM
Originally Posted by nimrod
I am having a hard time making sense of this:

Of course Israel can wipe Iran off the map. It's not even a question. I see they're doing all they can to wipe Palestine off the map as well.
Iran's strength is nothing in comparison with Israel
”.

Thanks
Nimrod
strenth need not be in numbers.
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Ghazi
05-13-2006, 10:54 AM
Originally Posted by Joe98
Not true. People do good and people do evil. It has nothing to do with Allah.
Salaam

Don't worry you'll see the error of your ways one day.
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Muslim Soldier
05-13-2006, 10:57 AM
Originally Posted by islam-truth
Salaam

Don't worry you'll see the error of your ways one day.
I actually agree with Joe. Allah doesnt make anyone do any good nor any evil
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Ghazi
05-13-2006, 11:00 AM
Originally Posted by Muslim Soldier
I actually agree with Joe. Allah doesnt make anyone do any good nor any evil
Salaam

You both misunderstood my original point, unless allah wills isreal to strike iran with nukes nothing will happen my posts were in refernce to that.
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afriend
05-13-2006, 11:04 AM
Originally Posted by marge1
hmm..well if NO ONE had nuclear weapons -i don't think there'd be a problem anyway..
FULL STOP!!
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Joe98
05-13-2006, 12:42 PM
Originally Posted by islam-truth
...unless allah wills isreal to strike iran with nukes nothing will happen...
So, if Allah wills Israel to strike Iran with nuclear missile you would continue to praise Allah?
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Ghazi
05-13-2006, 02:23 PM
Originally Posted by Joe98
So, if Allah wills Israel to strike Iran with nuclear missile you would continue to praise Allah?
Salaam

It's called Qadar and yes I would
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R_Mujahed
05-13-2006, 03:28 PM
Originally Posted by Iqram
FULL STOP!!
Akhee I have that copyrighted Full Stop :rant:
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nimrod
05-14-2006, 02:08 AM
Muslim Solder, it isn’t the numbers of soldiers I am having a problem with.

What I am having a problem with is that any country that can wipe Iran off the map can also wipe Palestine off the map.

The poster that agreed that Israel could wipe Iran off the map, yet the poster went on to state that Israel had done every thing it could to wipe Palestine off the map.

The two statements are incompatible.

Edit, I should have found a politer way to say what I deleted.

Thanks
Nimrod
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Zulkiflim
05-15-2006, 01:00 AM
Salaam,

Inshallah if the Arab world is not so fragmented due to to their skewed allegiance not to Allah but to the world then surely none of thois would have happened.

Inshallah,the Khilafah shall return.

And assuredly finally for those who say IT IS IN ALLAH HANDS...then will not take actions?
Will you just sit there and pray ?

Read the Quran ..
Allah say..
FIGHT FIGHT THEM EVEN IN THE HOLY MONTH EVEN WHEN THEY ENTER THE HOLY LANDS..

Fight when they fight you..fight them as they fight you..till peace is gained..
But do not trangress the boundaries...Do not kill when maiming is enough,do not maim when capture is enough..

So will you take part of the Quran adn forget the others..

Allah say clearly in the Qurna when to fight and when not to..
But here and now too many say LEAVE IT BE TO ALLAH,,when surely all of this is a test of your IMAN and YOUR LOVE towards the religon you call DIVINE..

Astarfillalh
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