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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 08:50 PM
שלום, מה שלומך?
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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 10:08 PM
Give me a reason though.
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chacha_jalebi
06-07-2006, 10:12 PM
wot!!! erm erm translate!!!
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 10:17 PM
The Title sais "Hebrew" (עברית) and I wrote (שלום, מה שלומך?) which means "Hello, how are you?" :-)
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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 10:21 PM
Thank you, thats the reason. Translation, i am interest learning hebrew.
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 10:26 PM
Here is the Alphabet. I reckon it might be harder to memorize if you have not written and spoken Hebrew as a first language, but it is a lot easier than Arabic. :-)

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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 10:34 PM
Very semiliar to arabic, whats the differance between hebrew and yiddish?
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Looking4Peace
06-07-2006, 10:39 PM
i think one is more commonly spoken then the other and they originated in different places, i may be really wrong though. :?
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 10:40 PM
The alphabets of Hebrew and Yiddish are the same, but they just are different words. Yiddish was spoken by European Jews after they were exiled from Israel, and some ultra orthodox Jews only speak Yiddish because they believe hebrew to be so holy of a language, it can only be spoken when discussing religion.

Yiddish is basically a completley different language, using Hebrew letters. I personally do not know Yiddish.
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Looking4Peace
06-07-2006, 10:41 PM
ok now i remember lol
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 10:43 PM
Yiddish is not spoken that much by even Jews of European origin. It is very useful to know Yiddish since many books, and symbols of European Jewish culture will be lost in time because the number of speakers of Yiddish decrease every year.

I do not know Yiddish, nor do I have any European ties since my family has lived in Israel basically forever. My family goes back a long time here.
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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 10:50 PM
Your not ashkanazi? Then i understand why, your mizrahi jew. Mizrahi jews been in the middleeast forever.
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 11:00 PM
Originally Posted by Hashim_507
Your not ashkanazi? Then i understand why, your mizrahi jew. Mizrahi jews been in the middleeast forever.
Yes, my family has lives in Northern Israel for as long back as we have recorded my family tree.:)
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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 11:04 PM
So your saying your ashkenazi? Ok, but 50 percent of Israel population are mizrahi jews or sephardic. I am i wrong?
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 11:09 PM
Mizrahi Jews are Jews who have always lived in the Middle East. A Jew who lived in Iraq, and moved to Israel in 1948 is a Mizrahi Jew. I am a Mizrahi Jew whose family has remained in Israel for a long time (as long time as we can trace my family back to)...

Sephardic Jews are those who after they were expelled from Israel went to Turkey, Spain, or Portugal. Many from Spain moved to South America later.

Ashkenazi Jews went to European countries after they were expelled, and these are the people who spoke Yiddish. They lived in Germany, Poland, Russia and a few other places.
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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 11:14 PM
I know that well, i was wondering about you. But i understand where you coming from.
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 11:22 PM
Have you ever been to Israel before?
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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 11:27 PM
No, i am like busy with school and work. Even in the summer, i have college classes and work.
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 11:31 PM
Are you American?
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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 11:37 PM
Yes, I am american citizen in u.s.
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 11:39 PM
Thats cool. Is there a certain area of the USA that has a large Muslim population? Like Jews are known to live in New York.
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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 11:46 PM
In my knowledge: Chicago, L.A,San Diego,Minneapolis,Detriot,St.Paul and all over u.s. I've been in New York before.
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lavikor201
06-07-2006, 11:48 PM
I have been to Miami, New York, and Washington D.C before. USA is a beautiful country.
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Hashim_507
06-07-2006, 11:56 PM
I love New York city, the good areas like manhattan and uptown. Their are alot of orthodox jews lived there. Your right about that statement you said before.
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snakelegs
06-07-2006, 11:58 PM
שלום עליכם
זה יהיה מענין
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:17 AM
אתה מדבר עברית?
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snakelegs
06-08-2006, 12:26 AM
Originally Posted by lavikor201
אתה מדבר עברית?
רק םאד קצת ולא כל כך טוב
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:32 AM
Originally Posted by snakelegs
רל םאד לצת ולא כל כך טוב
איפה אתה חי?
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 12:32 AM
[S]I am lost!![/S]
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:35 AM
LOL. Basically (not word for word) I ask if he speaks hebrew... he sais he does not very well.... and now I ask him where he resides... :-)
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snakelegs
06-08-2006, 12:38 AM
Originally Posted by lavikor201
איפה אתה חי?
בארצות הברית - קליפורניה
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 12:38 AM
I wish i knew hebrew very well, but i am trying to fit in.
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:39 AM
Here I will teach you a word....

If you were to form letters to sound out "Allah" this would be it: אללה

This is how you say G-d in Hebrew.

אלוהים
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:41 AM
Originally Posted by snakelegs
בארצות הברית - קליפורניה

איך הילדות?
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:42 AM
Originally Posted by Hashim_507
I wish i knew hebrew very well, but i am trying to fit in.
He just wrote he lives in California.
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:44 AM
snakelegs: מזג אויר נחמד?
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 12:46 AM
That was nice to learn few hebrew words, tell about yourself.
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 12:47 AM
California is my homestate.
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:50 AM
Originally Posted by Hashim_507
That was nice to learn few hebrew words, tell about yourself.
Are you speaking to me or snakelegs?
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 12:53 AM
You
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:56 AM
Well I have lived in Israel all my life, and probably many people on this forum may not like me for this but I served as all Israeli citizens must in the Israeli Defense Force. I am kind of religious, but not to an extreme point. I also own a Cafe' in Haifa, and my sons help me run it. My oldest son will have to join the IDF soon and I am sort of worried but it is the law and the sacrifice all Israeli's must make. I pray for peace every day in hope that the children of both sides will not have to die, and instead can live in harmony.
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 12:57 AM
How is your life in California? Do you live near the beaches? I hear they are nice on the west coast of the USA.
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 01:04 AM
Well i hope both sides make peace, do you own the cafe that was bomb?
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 01:07 AM
No, Thank HaShem.

You can't live nervous... you know what I mean?

At my cafe' you can get shwarma and falafel, and other types of food and drinks.

It is in a tourism area of the city so I get a lot of Americans and speak the language pretty well. I just wish I did not have such a bad accent. :X
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 01:08 AM
I moved from California 5 years ago, but it is my homestate. During the time i lived there life was good. Yes i used to live near the beaches, specially in L.A its very beatifull. My house was like ten blocks away from the beach, but now i go to college in the State of Minnesota.
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 01:10 AM
Minnesota is the freezing part of your country, yes?
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 01:15 AM
Yes, its freezing in winter, i hate winter in Minnesota. Their is time where the temperature will reach -35 degree. Sometimes cars can't start well, winter in Minnesota is horrible. Spring and summer is the best seasons here.
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 01:17 AM
Wow, I could never take that. Your a strong man. -35 is just ridiculous. I can;t imagine below zero.....
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 01:26 AM
I just can't wait to move back to California after i graduated college. I'll take my masters degree in California, not going to stay in Minnesota too long.
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 01:32 AM
I actually have a friend who has family in California. His nephew attends Santa Barbra College I believe. He sais it is the nicest weather, and beaches on earth.
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 01:36 AM
Its true California has best weather in America, your giving the feeling going back.
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lavikor201
06-08-2006, 01:39 AM
I have to go, but it was nice to speak to you. It is always good to learn about a different culture.

שלום אליך

Peace to you! Shalom
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Hashim_507
06-08-2006, 01:41 AM
Ok, shalom it was nice to have conversation with you.
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snakelegs
06-08-2006, 01:48 AM
Originally Posted by lavikor201
איך הילדות?
אין לי ילדים
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snakelegs
06-08-2006, 01:55 AM
Originally Posted by lavikor201
How is your life in California? Do you live near the beaches? I hear they are nice on the west coast of the USA.
california is paradise. only thing wrong with it is that too many other people think so too!
i live about an hour from the beach. yes, they're nice tho the water is colder than in new jersey. however, because of this, the beaches are not nearly as crowded.
my love is the desert - am about 90 minutes from desert.
i'm glad you joined the forum. should be pretty interesting, lol.
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north_malaysian
06-08-2006, 07:00 AM
teach me hebrew! teach me hebrew!
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aljawaad
06-08-2006, 08:15 AM
Too late our Hebrew teacher has gone :p. I'm a fraid u'll have to wait . Lol :D
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north_malaysian
06-08-2006, 08:43 AM
teacher's absent!?

So am I considered absent to the Hebrew Class today?

:p Hope not to be barred for exams then..
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snakelegs
06-09-2006, 05:01 AM
Originally Posted by north_malaysian
teacher's absent!?

So am I considered absent to the Hebrew Class today?

:p Hope not to be barred for exams then..
well, i wish the real teacher would show up cuz my hebrew is a bit rusty. (and when he does show up, i hope he will correct if i make mistakes).
i will just give you a few random words. (just to tide you over)

elohim - God
eesh - man, person
eesha - woman, f. person
yeled - child, boy
yaldah - girl
moreh - teacher
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lavikor201
06-09-2006, 12:26 PM
Here are common phrases... The English Translation, Hebrew, and Transliteration.

Hebrew - עברית - ivrit

hello/peace - שלום - shalom

good-bye - להתראות - lehitra’ot

nice to meet you - נעים מאוד - na’im me’od

thank you - תודה - toda

good morning - בוקר טוב - boker tov

where is the restroom? - איפה השירותים?‏ - eifo ha-sherutim?
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lavikor201
06-09-2006, 12:27 PM
Here is the chart for Hebrew letter again. :-)

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virago
06-11-2006, 07:31 AM
I'm interested in learning the Hebrew language. I thought I might be able to learn it on my own, but looking at the alphabets, I'm beginning to have my doubts
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snakelegs
06-11-2006, 07:56 AM
Originally Posted by virago
I'm interested in learning the Hebrew language. I thought I might be able to learn it on my own, but looking at the alphabets, I'm beginning to have my doubts
it is not as hard as it looks, believe it or not. i found the arabic alphabet harder to learn.
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virago
06-11-2006, 08:12 AM
As Arabic is technically my first language, I assume that I have an advantage as both languages are related.

Although I am more comfortable using English, it would be more interesting if I could find resources that are meant to teach the language to Arabic speakers. I haven't found anything worthwhile so far.

Is it possible to learn the language without a tutor?
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Vishnu
06-11-2006, 02:35 PM
Arabic looks like a crazy language. Don't the letters change into different letters depending on the word? it looks like a nightmare to write.
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chacha_jalebi
06-11-2006, 02:36 PM
lol wot about hindi den? :p
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virago
06-11-2006, 02:39 PM
Don't the letters change into different letters depending on the word?
Yes, the form of the letter changes depending upon its position in a sentence. But the difference isn't great.
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Vishnu
06-11-2006, 03:04 PM
Originally Posted by chacha_jalebi
lol wot about hindi den? :p
If you have a good memmory, Hindi is easy for a foreigner.
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chacha_jalebi
06-11-2006, 03:21 PM
memory? foreignor? eh eh eh ????????????

hindi is a mission 2 rude plus it looks same as tamil, panjabi, bangali n a childs paintin :D
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Vishnu
06-11-2006, 04:56 PM
Well the only people who actually have an interest to learn Hindi are people who are visiting India, or have an interest in Indian culture... so basically most of these people are "foreigners"

I am a foreigner to people in Jordan... you are a foreigner to people in India.
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north_malaysian
06-12-2006, 03:47 AM
Originally Posted by snakelegs
well, i wish the real teacher would show up cuz my hebrew is a bit rusty. (and when he does show up, i hope he will correct if i make mistakes).
i will just give you a few random words. (just to tide you over)

elohim - God
eesh - man, person
eesha - woman, f. person
yeled - child, boy
yaldah - girl
moreh - teacher
toda.
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north_malaysian
06-12-2006, 03:52 AM
Originally Posted by lavikor201
Here are common phrases... The English Translation, Hebrew, and Transliteration.

Hebrew - עברית - ivrit

hello/peace - שלום - shalom

good-bye - להתראות - lehitra’ot

nice to meet you - נעים מאוד - na’im me’od

thank you - תודה - toda

good morning - בוקר טוב - boker tov

where is the restroom? - איפה השירותים?‏ - eifo ha-sherutim?
toda. How to say these sentences in Hebrew?

1) I am a Malaysian.

2) Welcome.

3) Let us have some tea.

4) I love Ishtar's songs.

5) World Cup 2006 belongs to Germany! :p
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Looking4Peace
06-12-2006, 03:59 AM
cacadoodle doo?
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north_malaysian
06-12-2006, 05:53 AM
Originally Posted by Crystal4Peace
cacadoodle doo?
Huh??:rollseyes


p/s: lavikor, your family have been living in haifa for generations. Does your hebrew have some similarity with Levantine Arabic? Just curious?
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Vishnu
06-12-2006, 12:35 PM
Where is our Hebrew teacher?!?

I don't think he is putting in 100% effort into teaching us. lol.
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north_malaysian
06-13-2006, 03:15 AM
Originally Posted by ganeshsikkim
Where is our Hebrew teacher?!?

I don't think he is putting in 100% effort into teaching us. lol.
Maybe he's busy with something. Just have to be patient.
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lavikor201
06-15-2006, 08:34 PM
I hope this helps... it is pretty much a begginers guide for different Hebrew words. What someone who is focusing on should do is try look at the hebrew Alphabet chart, and try to sound out and begin reading. :-)


I (m,f) (Ani)
אַתָּה
You (m, sing) (Atah)
אַתְּ
You (f, sing) (At)
הוּא
He (Hoo)
הִיא
She (Hee)
אֲנַחְנוּ
We (Anakhnu)
אַתֶּם
You (m, plur) (Atem)
אַתֶּן
You (f, plur) (Aten)
הֵם
They (m) (Hem)
הֵן
They (f) (Hen)
Nouns

תַּלְמִיד
Talmid (m) Student (Talmid)
תַּלְמִידָה
Talmida (f)
Misc

סְלִיחָה
Excuse me; Pardon me; Sorry (Slikha)
שָׁלוֹם
Hello; Goodbye; Peace (Shalom)
בְּסֵדֶר
OK; Alright (B'seder)
כֵּן
Yes (Ken)
תּוֹדָה
Thanks (Todah)
לְהִתְרָאוֹת
See you (Lehitra-ot)
הַיּוֹם
Today (Hayom)
מָחָר
Tomorrow (Makhar)
Phrases

?מָה שְלוֹמְךָ
How are you? (to a man; Ma sh'lomkha)
?מָה שְלוֹמֵך
How are you? (to a woman; Ma sh'lomekh)
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Lamaggad
06-16-2006, 09:59 PM
lavikor201.. Please follow this link to read my reply to you...
Palestinian-israeli Conflict - By Lamaggad & lavikor201 :)
I have opened this thread and replied to what you have said... and will reply to the rest later wene i find some free time :)

take care and it's nice discussing stuff with you :)
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Muhammad
06-17-2006, 08:57 AM
Greetings lavikor201,

I did not get a chance to welcome you earlier so I will take the opportunity to thank you for joining our forum and wish you a pleasant stay and one that will be beneficial, God-Willing :).

It is nice of you to start this thread to teach your language, and I have found it to be very interesting indeed! I noticed how similar the Hebrew alphabet is to the Arabic one, in terms of the names that some letters have. There are also similarities in some of the actual words in both languages.

If I may ask a question, what is the function of the straight line that appears in some words?

I look forward to reading more of your posts,

Peace.

P.S. I moved the off-topic posts into the above linked thread.
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snakelegs
06-17-2006, 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Muhammad
Greetings lavikor201,

I noticed how similar the Hebrew alphabet is to the Arabic one, in terms of the names that some letters have. There are also similarities in some of the actual words in both languages.

If I may ask a question, what is the function of the straight line that appears in some words?

Peace.

P.S. I moved the off-topic posts into the above linked thread.
shalom muhammad,
those lines are vowels - they are not normally written but are in dictionaries and for kids and beginners. there are many words that are very close to arabic, tho sometimes they are totally different. arabic grammar i think is quite different and more complex.
for more, we have to wait for our teacher to come back to class.
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lavikor201
06-17-2006, 06:13 PM
snakelegs, is correct. They are vowels:

For example the "lamed" ל

If the "lamed" as a line under it you pronounce it like this:

LA
____________
If the "lamed" has 1 dot under it, then you pronounce it like this:

LEE


_______________________________________________

Another example:


מָחָר

Makhar

As you see there are lines underneath so it is MA and KHEAR


If they both had 1 dot underneath it would read out to be ME and KHER

_______________________________________

This is basically for saying the words with accuracy in prayer, so you will see it in the prayer book, and when begginers learn.

But when you learn Hebrew and speak it very well, you know what the words are so you don't need the vowels to tell you how to say it.
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Lamaggad
06-17-2006, 11:56 PM
I know some Hebrew words and one number :happy:
Nakhno : means (we)
Aghba'a or Arba'a (not too sure): means number four
Ani: means I
Shabat: Saturday
Shalom: Salaam :)
Shabat Shalom: Mean Peacful saturday i Geuss :giggling:

i think thats it.. :) can you correct the number.. i think i worte it wrong..

P.S for lavikor201: you know i'm still a limited member and can't use Private msgs :(
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lavikor201
06-18-2006, 12:01 AM
It is interesting how similar Hebrew is to Arabic.
Salaam and Shalom... ect...

Its like we are brothers... lol.
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Lamaggad
06-18-2006, 12:24 AM
Originally Posted by lavikor201
Its like we are brothers... lol.
didn't you know that we are cousins...
Jews are sons of Israel, and Arabs are sons of Ismael :)
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lavikor201
06-18-2006, 12:25 AM
Yes I knew that. We can all agree that my boy Abraham was the man! lol.
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north_malaysian
06-18-2006, 01:29 AM
Is it true that Yemeni Jews are Arabs convert to Judaism?

And, is it true that some Mizrahi Jews prefer to be called as Arabs who professed Judaism belief?
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north_malaysian
06-18-2006, 01:41 AM
Arabic and Hebrew alphabet (the red ones in Arabic)

Alef
Alif

Bet
Ba

Gimel
Jim

Dalet
Dal

He
Ha

Vav
Waw

Zayin
Zay

Chet
Kha

Tet
Ta

Yod
Ya

Kaf
Kaf

Lamed
Lam

Mem
Mim

Nun
Nun

Samech
Sin

Ayin
Ayn

Pe
Fa

Tzadi
Dzal

Kof
Qaf

Resh
Ra

Shin
Shin

Tav
To
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lavikor201
06-18-2006, 03:34 AM
The Alphabets are similar!

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Is it true that Yemeni Jews are Arabs convert to Judaism?
No, I actualy have Yemenite Jewish friends... The Yemen Jews have always been Jews and can actually find by DNA in todays age that they are connected to one of the tribes which were exiled after Israel was conquered thousands of years ago.

Because of persecution because of there religious beliefs they fled Yemen and came back to Israel. Now almost all of the Jews who lived in Yemen live in Israel. They were willing to abondon there homes and lives to get out of Yemen, because of man reasons which I won;t get into.

There also about 100,000 Black Jews in Israel now... who most believe are from the lost tribe of "Dan" of the 12 tribes, and were in Northern Ethiopia.

And, is it true that some Mizrahi Jews prefer to be called as Arabs who professed Judaism belief?
I don't. But the Mizrahi Jews who number over 1 million now who lived in Israel way before the state was created were called Arab Jews because they were Arabs They were just Jewish Arabs... like there are Christian Arabs. To be an Arab is not a religion. :)
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north_malaysian
06-18-2006, 06:27 AM
How about the lost tribe? Many people claims it like Lemba people in Zambia, Mizo in India, Pashtun in Afghanistan and some Native in South America too. Who actually the lost tribe?
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Muhammad
06-18-2006, 10:44 AM
Greetings,

Thankyou snakelegs and lavikor201 for the explanations.

What sound does the long line in between letters represent, and also the thing which looks like an apostraphe? Both of these are in the word in lavikor's signature.

Peace.
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lavikor201
06-18-2006, 04:27 PM
Actually the lines on the sides are nothing...

If I were to write...

- Go Manchester United - that is what it would be like... lol.



The apostrephe is really the letter "yod" :-)

It is a letter in the Hebrew alphabet.
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Muhammad
06-20-2006, 11:24 AM
Hello again,

I meant the straight vertical line which looks like an 'I'.
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lavikor201
06-20-2006, 11:44 PM
Oh. That is the letter "vav"
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Vishnu
06-30-2006, 01:31 AM
Lavikor... we want more lessons. :-)
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lavikor201
06-30-2006, 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by ganeshsikkim
Lavikor... we want more lessons. :-)

Ok.




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Ameeratul Layl
07-12-2006, 02:48 PM
Salam,

Oh this is going to be fun.

Does anyone want to learn Hebrew....with me? I know a little.

Wasalam
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therebbe
09-27-2006, 10:02 PM
כל אחד כאן?

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