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جوري
07-22-2006, 03:55 PM
http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main
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Trumble
07-22-2006, 04:33 PM
Same old conspiracy drivel.

And the same old favourite debunking site. There are plenty more HERE.
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KAding
07-22-2006, 04:34 PM
But it's so incredibly misleading. It's probably even using the quotes in ways that those who said them didn't want to.

I mean, look at this collection of eyewitness accounts.:
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon...sses/bart.html

Most of them pretty much contradict the selective quoting in the video. National Geographic also made a nice documentary on the pentagon strike, completely reconstructing the physics behind it.
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جوري
07-22-2006, 04:53 PM
And you are? Physicists? eye witnesses? Statisticians? weapon experts? Pilots? camera wo/men? moles? I am liking the latter.... Your job is to go plant these exact words on a forum where you'll get a more fervent reaction... Some of us like facts ... thing is the only mindless drivel around here is your two repetitive sentences...we are tired of it ... it is on the news 24/7 and you know what some of us really do want to keep it alive and get to the bottom of it...if your job is to find out what is being written on the Islamic forum and report it back to someone then please go do so without incommoding your hosts... Again if you don't like what you are reading it is so simple you may go skip the post and find one that caters to your psychology...
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جوري
07-22-2006, 05:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WOXh8hbkI&search=911
with quotes from scientific america, NASA satelite images, Fire engineering magazine, CBS news exclusive, NEw York times...Plus the much anticipated polls of which 66% of New Yorkers want this reinvestigated...
$40 million clinton... $600,000 on 911
please go ahead with your bush distributed pamphlets
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جوري
07-22-2006, 05:18 PM
for those who have the time this is another excellent video but it is an hour 10 minutes long if you have the time. Tackles it piece by piece... they can't silence everyone... there are so many... most people who want the truth aren't even Muslims who have conceded their surrender at this stage!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...13972926262623
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Trumble
07-22-2006, 05:43 PM
Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia
Some of us like facts ...
You have no interest in 'facts' at all, only pushing a conspiracy theory that has been comprehensively demonstrated to be complete rubbish.

You will find plenty of facts debunking every aspect of the conspiracy at the sites we linked to - if you can't accept them and prefer to believe your conspiracy fantasies that's up to you.


..if your job is to find out what is being written on the Islamic forum and report it back to someone then please go do so without incommoding your hosts...
I'd just like to point out to any members of the CIA or MI5 reading this that I am open to offers. I could do with a career change. ;)
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جوري
07-22-2006, 06:12 PM
Originally Posted by Trumble
You have no interest in 'facts' at all, only pushing a conspiracy theory that has been comprehensively demonstrated to be complete rubbish.

You will find plenty of facts debunking every aspect of the conspiracy at the sites we linked to - if you can't accept them and prefer to believe your conspiracy fantasies that's up to you.




I'd just like to point out to any members of the CIA or MI5 reading this that I am open to offers. I could do with a career change. ;)
Not interested in "facts" is more of An adequate assessment of self? or Which enlightened school of thought have you pursued to arrive at that fecund declaration of yours? the school of cognitive conservatism? verbal diarrhea might not necessarily be packed with the nutrients we all need to be the enlightened illuminati that you are... Although it does take up space ... inspire an itch and an occasional yawn ... you'll find... I'll find... I am not interested in your views frankly... I have a mind of my own and I use it ... condescension and a statement negating all the research done hardly constitutes a second look but it is a bush pleaser... I am sure you can find a group of masons out there that share your views... and would probably pay a handsome reward as well.....
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guyabano
07-23-2006, 09:14 AM
Originally Posted by PurestAmbrosia
Bla bla bla bla ! Same old drivels !
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KAding
07-23-2006, 10:04 AM
If you are into this 9/11 conspiracy stuff, at least stick to the more credible conspiracies. The claim that there was no plane in the pentagon strike is so incredibly weak and easy to refute. Heck, even within the 9/11 conspiracy movement there are more serious researchers who believe it undermines their work, because it provides a scapegoat for those who want to ridicule them. Loose Change for example has also been most thoroughly debunked. It contains so many insinuations and misquotes that it is not credible.

For a more serious site that actually bothers to do some research to provide some weight to the conspiracy arguments, I would recommend http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html
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KAding
07-23-2006, 10:22 AM
http://www.debunking911.com/meeting.htm

THE Meeting

Government: We want to cause a tragedy so great the American people will blindly follow us into war... What do you think gentlemen...

Accomplice #1: Well, the Towers are a perfect choice.. It's been bombed before. We can just blame Osama again. We've been priming the American people by having him blow up our warships and our buildings in other countries.

Government: Yeah, good idea! How will we do that?

Accomplice #1: We can hire Osama to get some of his friends to fly planes into it!

Accomplice #2: Wait... I have a better idea, We can BOMB the buildings!

Accomplice #1: Well, that means placing enough bombs into the 110 story building. That's going to take a lot of man power and risk us being uncovered...

Accomplice #2: Yeah but that way your sure to knock it down. Besides, Maybe the hijackers wont make it to the target. Maybe they'll be uncovered!

Accomplice #1 But you don't need to knock it down, all you need is the horrific sight of the planes hitting the buildings. People will get the message. It's an attack on American soil. We'll also have people like the blind sheik to cover for us. We'll even put a guy on a train with evidence.

Your plan isn't perfect either you know. Do I have to remind you of Operation Towel Pop? We already tried to embarrass Clinton by knocking it down and failed.

Accomplice #2: Yeah, our bay of pigs, but I say the only way they can get the message is if we knock it down.

Accomplice #1 Do not

Accomplice #2 Do too

Accomplice #1 Do not

Accomplice #2 Do too

Accomplice #1 Do not

Accomplice #2 Do too

Government: Gentlemen, gentlemen... Please... What the hell, we'll just do both! :blink: How do we do that? I mean how do you keep explosions from showing up on TV? We're going to have to investigate this at some point. How do we cover up the seen?

Accomplice #2: But why not just knock it dow...

Government: I've made my decision. continue...

Accomplice #2: OK.. We install charges on every floor so that after the planes hit, we blow each floor under the crash floor one by one, very fast to simulate pancaking. We'll let the building burn a while just for effect. This will also give time for the trusses to sag making it LOOK like a fire caused the building to fall.

Accomplice #1: Nice touch...

Accomplice #2: Why, thank you. :) ...We'll set a charge off in the middle of the building AFTER the top is on it's way down so everyone thinks the puffs of debris coming from the windows are from the tremendous hypodermic needle like pressure blowing debris from the weakest point in the building.

Government: What about the sound of explosions? Isn't that a dead giveaway?

Accomplice #2: No problem, We'll just let them think it's normal electrical explosions like transformers blowing up or the initial concrete and Steel and floors hitting the floors below.

Accomplice #1: Yeah, it could also be the steel columns snapping like twigs from the tremendous weight of the floors above... Don't worry, we have disinformation specialists in Key internet forums.

Government: WOW, You guys think of everything.. What about Building 7? Can we take that out at the same time?

Accomplice #1: We wont be able to fly planes into it, that's for sure...

Accomplice #2: Leave it to me. If we set off the explosions just right we can have one of the towers hit Building 7 missing the two next to it. After that we can set fires on the bottom floors and let it burn for a while, you know, to make it look possible for a normal collapse. I'll call my agent in the fire department to get everyone out before we blow it. I'll figure a way to make the floors look buckled for effect as well.

Government: Amassing... I also want to take out the pentagon. Any suggestions?

Accomplice #1: What we'll do is hijack a plane just for effect then fire a missile at the pentagon. A bunker buster.

Government: But what about the people on the plane?

Accomplice #1: We'll land the plane in area 51 then shoot them all.

Government: Why not use the plane instead of the missile? That way you take care of all the evidence at the same time... People on the highway can also see the planes hit. If you use a missile there's going to be a lot of witnesses who saw a missile and not a plane.

Accomplice #1: err... ah, Don't worry about these small details. I have an under cover op in the DC police department who will take the names down and shot them all.

Government: How are you going to get all the people involved in this? Bush isn't exactly loved you know..

Don't worry, psych-ops will take care of the brainwashing of the American people. As for the media, we control the left and the right!

Government: GREAT! Nice work all! Lets make the target date Sept 11 2001.
Our government at work ;).
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جوري
07-23-2006, 03:27 PM
Wow thanks so much for that oh leader of the pack and holder of the flame. I am convinced now along with thousands who have done their research ... your command on English and the blah blah blahs and that entirely thorough and well thought out soliloquy spoke to me ... thank God for your presence what would we have done without your enlightenment? Not to mention those expertly laid out debunking websites? I especially enjoyed that male guerrilla image pounding extra hard on its chest with pride for a show of wit and satire after having read this.... carry on debunk away while I better myself with the ethics of sarcasm.... ahahhahaa
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searchingsoul
07-28-2006, 09:11 PM
I love reading conspiracy stories. They are very intertaining.

I realize this one has been debunked. It's still entertaining and fun! Thanks for posting!
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