How Was The Quran Chosen To Be Compiled Together?

[chacha_jalebi]

salaam

Bismillah Ir Rahman Nir Raheem

elo ello :D

i did a search but couldnt find a post so ere it goes :D:D:D:D

i was thinkin today, how was the Quran chosen to be compiled? like why was surah Baqarah decided to be surah number 2 etc and why the order of surahs?

i know that Hadhrat Umar & Hadhrat Uthman (ra) compiled the Quran and Hadhrat Hafsah (ra) had the copy they decided 2 publish because it was thought of bein most accurate, but my Q is .... :D:D:D

why was the specific order used? because we all know that Surah Iqra was revealed 1st but it is surah number 96, like was their a criteria for choosin the certain order & was it done by Hadhrat Umar & Uthman (ra) as they chose to compile the Quran together? lol i hope u lots understand moi Q. ....

JazakhAllah :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[afriend]

Yeah bro...I was meaning to ask this Q too......

It's like, Quraan al kareem was revealed indifferent parts at different times.....

So who put it together, and who made the order?

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

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The Prophet saws instructed them as to the order and this was the order which they memorized they abided by in reciting it in their prayers and otherwise.

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[^..sTr!vEr..^]

Assalamualaikum..good question..

Firstly its been totally written n compiled by Allah via RasulAllah.
Secondly, that compilation by Sahabas is a doubtful thg..because in Surah Kahf's 109 ayah it says that "if the sea became INK for..."..dont u people think ink would hav been present at that tym for sure becoz if it wasnt knwon to the people at that tym how cud Allah reveal an Ayah??..Quran is for evryone since prophet's tym till Qayamat. And if ink was present then does it make sense that Sahabas writin all those parts of Quran on rocks n all that..so i dont agree to this story of compilation. inshAllah this explains.

Anyway, Allah wanted n ordered the Quran to be this way..so its lyk this.. :)

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[chacha_jalebi]

jazakhallah

what RasoolAllah (saw) instructed them directly or indirectly? like did he read the certain surahs in order in salaah & they stuck to that or did he say do it in this order??

because the Quran was compiled after RasoolAllah (saw) passed away, so was it in a dream or summin???

[afriend]

Ohh...Jazakallah kahir brother Ansar, and sister too :)

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

what RasoolAllah (saw) instructed them directly or indirectly? like did he read the certain surahs in order in salaah & they stuck to that or did he say do it in this order??

Both.

because the Quran was compiled after RasoolAllah (saw) passed away, so was it in a dream or summin???

It was recorded in one volume after the Prophet saws.

[chacha_jalebi]

sister i think you have misunderstood dat ayah, "If the sea became ink for the Words of my Lord, the sea would indeed be used up and the Words of my Lord would never - even if we bring another like it for help."

so it is sayin that Allah (swt) can keep revealin ayahs, if he wills

and its not wise to doubt sahabas :p

[al-fateh]

1. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) himself supervised and authenticated the written texts of the Qur’an


Whenever the Prophet received a revelation, he would first memorize it himself and later declare the revelation and instruct his Companions (R.A. – Radhi Allahu Taala Anhu) – May Allah be pleased with him who would also memorize it. The Prophet would immediately ask the scribes to write down the revelation he had received, and he would reconfirm and recheck it himself. Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was an Ummi who could not read and write. Therefore, after receiving each revelation, he would repeat it to his Companions. They would write down the revelation, and he would recheck by asking them to read what they had written. If there was any mistake, the Prophet would immediately point it out and have it corrected and rechecked. Similarly he would even recheck and authenticate the portions of the Qur’an memorized by the Companions. In this way, the complete Qur’an was written down under the personal supervision of the prophet (pbuh).

2. Order and sequence of Qur’an divinely inspired


The complete Qur’an was revealed over a period of 22½ years portion by portion, as and when it was required. The Qur’an was not compiled by the Prophet in the chronological order of revelation. The order and sequence of the Qur’an too was Divinely inspired and was instructed to the Prophet by Allah (swt) through archangel Jibraeel. Whenever a revelation was conveyed to his companions, the Prophet would also mention in which surah (chapter) and after which ayat (verse) this new revelation should fit.

Every Ramadhaan all the portions of the Qur’an that had been revealed, including the order of the verses, were revised and reconfirmed by the Prophet with archangel Jibraeel. During the last Ramadhaan, before the demise of the Prophet, the Qur’an was rechecked and reconfirmed twice.

It is therefore clearly evident that the Qur’an was compiled and authenticated by the Prophet himself during his lifetime, both in the written form as well as in the memory of several of his Companions.

3. Qur’an copied on one common material


The complete Qur’an, along with the correct sequence of the verses, was present during the time of the Prophet (pbuh). The verses however, were written on separate pieces, scrapes of leather, thin flat stones, leaflets, palm branches, shoulder blades, etc. After the demise of the prophet, Abu Bakr (r.a.), the first caliph of Islam ordered that the Qur’an be copied from the various different materials on to a common material and place, which was in the shape of sheets. These were tied with strings so that nothing of the compilation was lost.

4. Usman (r.a.) made copies of the Qur’an from the original manuscript


Many Companions of the Prophet used to write down the revelation of the Qur’an on their own whenever they heard it from the lips of the Prophet. However what they wrote was not personally verified by the Prophet and thus could contain mistakes. All the verses revealed to the Prophet may not have been heard personally by all the Companions. There were high possibilities of different portions of the Qur’an being missed by different Companions. This gave rise to disputes among Muslims regarding the different contents of the Qur’an during the period of the third Caliph Usman (r.a.).

Usman (r.a.) borrowed the original manuscript of the Qur’an, which was authorized by the beloved Prophet (pbuh), from Hafsha (may Allah be pleased with her), the Prophet’s wife. Usman (r.a.) ordered four Companions who were among the scribes who wrote the Qur’an when the Prophet dictated it, led by Zaid bin Thabit (r.a.) to rewrite the script in several perfect copies. These were sent by Usman (r.a.) to the main centres of Muslims.

There were other personal collections of the portions of the Qur’an that people had with them. These might have been incomplete and with mistakes. Usman (r.a.) only appealed to the people to destroy all these copies which did not match the original manuscript of the Qur’an in order to preserve the original text of the Qur’an. Two such copies of the copied text of the original Qur’an authenticated by the Prophet are present to this day, one at the museum in Tashkent in erstwhile Soviet Union and the other at the Topkapi Museum in Istanbul, Turkey.

5. Diacritical marks were added for non-Arabs


The original manuscript of the Qur’an does not have the signs indicating the vowels in Arabic script. These vowels are known as tashkil, zabar, zair, paish in Urdu and as fatah, damma and qasra in Arabic. The Arabs did not require the vowel signs and diacritical marks for correct pronunciation of the Qur’an since it was their mother tongue. For Muslims of non-Arab origin, however, it was difficult to recite the Qur’an correctly without the vowels. These marks were introduced into the Quranic script during the time of the fifth ‘Umayyad’ Caliph, Malik-ar-Marwan (66-86 Hijri/685-705 C.E.) and during the governorship of Al-Hajaj in Iraq.

Some people argue that the present copy of the Qur’an that we have along with the vowels and the diacritical marks is not the same original Qur’an that was present at the Prophet’s time. But they fail to realize that the word ‘Qur’an’ means a recitation. Therefore, the preservation of the recitation of the Qur’an is important, irrespective of whether the script is different or whether it contains vowels. If the pronunciation and the Arabic is the same, naturally, the meaning remains the same too.

6. Allah Himself has promised to guard the Qur’an


Allah has promised in the Qur’an :

"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption). [Al-Qur’an 15:9]

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

salaam

Bismillah Ir Rahman Nir Raheem

elo ello :D

i did a search but couldnt find a post so ere it goes :D:D:D:D

i was thinkin today, how was the Quran chosen to be compiled? like why was surah Baqarah decided to be surah number 2 etc and why the order of surahs?

i know that Hadhrat Umar & Hadhrat Uthman (ra) compiled the Quran and Hadhrat Hafsah (ra) had the copy they decided 2 publish because it was thought of bein most accurate, but my Q is .... :D:D:D

why was the specific order used? because we all know that Surah Iqra was revealed 1st but it is surah number 96, like was their a criteria for choosin the certain order & was it done by Hadhrat Umar & Uthman (ra) as they chose to compile the Quran together? lol i hope u lots understand moi Q. ....

JazakhAllah :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

i was gonna ask da same question aswel.

damn bro, u really do like the ':D' emotion init?? :giggling:

[chacha_jalebi]

jazakhallah bro ansar, i meant was it revealed in a dream 2 the sahabas, neway you sorted me question out, jazakhallah

how comes everyone was gona ask this Q :p stop tryin 2 b cleva lol na me messin, but its been asnwered so woo hooo :D:D:D:D

:threadclo

:p:p

[al-fateh]

why close the thread???

let people learn and ask if they have any questions...

[chacha_jalebi]

oh okie dokie .... :p

thread open :p

[AQSA]

As-Salaamu 'Alaikum brs.......

The order in which the quran was chosen to be revealed was a command from Allah the Most High. It was sent with the Angel Jibril (Gabriel) for it to be revealed to the prophet Mohamed (peace be upon him). He who also taught the order and arrangement of verses by him, whcih proberly expalines why the first Surah to be revealed is chapter number 96 instead of 1.......

[Woodrow]

I am confused. All of the Qur'an translations I have seen have been in the same order. Actually the only translations I own are those by Yusuf Ali and the one by Pickthall. I also have an untranslated one and the order is the same in it. My son-in-law speaks Urdu and his Urdu translation is in the same order as the translations I have.

[Ansar Al-'Adl]

:sl: :)

I am confused. All of the Qur'an translations I have seen have been in the same order. Actually the only translations I own are those by Yusuf Ali and the one by Pickthall. I also have an untranslated one and the order is the same in it. My son-in-law speaks Urdu and his Urdu translation is in the same order as the translations I have.

So what is the confusion? :?

[^..sTr!vEr..^]

Br "cha..jalebi" u dont understand wht im tryin to say..luk here, if the word "INK" is present in the Quran this means Sahabas n Prophet must b knowin wht ink is ..otherwise there wud hav been confusions..so i think
"Quran was complied n written with ink in Prophets life."
i dont doubt Sahabas but u c changes can occur..who knows who made this story n labelled it as "Sahabs work".. :)
the only thg which is with out any doubt is Quran.

[Woodrow]

:sl: :)

So what is the confusion? :?

The poster I was replying to, indicated that each of the English translations she saw the Surahs were in different orders.

[waji]

:sl:

Quran was revealed to Muhammad (S.A.W) in a order to make people muslims so u will find most of the Makki suras (suras which was revealed in Makkah) having topic of Tauheed , Day of Judgement and about prophet
and in Madani suras (suras which was revealed in Madina) topic jihad and living in an islamic way as in madina the islamic community was established so it was naccessary to give them islamic rules of living

Now the order of suras in the Quran we have right now was done by Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) himself now we are muslims so the first important thing is to live in a better islamic way and if u see the first suras are all about it
most of the Makki suras are small where Madani suras are big explaining rules breifly
That is why the order of suras in Quran is not that in which it was revealed

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