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sonz
08-11-2006, 06:38 PM
Egypt says US losing credibility in Mideast

Thu Aug 10, 2006

CAIRO (Reuters) - Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said the United States and the West were losing credibility in the Middle East because they were dragging their feet on a ceasefire in Lebanon between Israel and Hizbollah guerrillas.

In an interview with the Egyptian magazine October, released on Thursday, Mubarak also said it would be impossible to implement quickly a U.N. resolution which requires Hizbollah to disarm -- one of the steps Israel and the United States want to see in a political settlement of the month-old conflict.

He dismissed Washington's talk of "a new Middle East", saying it ignored what he called the real problem -- the collapse of attempts at peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

"Foot-dragging on a ceasefire and the continuation of the Israeli aggression detract from the credibility of the United States and the West in the region," Mubarak said.

"The United States has not moved to a sufficient extent and with the necessary speed to contain the situation," he added.

Washington has said it takes time to negotiate lasting security arrangements for south Lebanon. Analysts and diplomats say the United States has been trying to give Israel more time to damage Hizbollah and claim military success.

Israel and the United States want the Lebanese army, backed by international forces, to move into south Lebanon and supervise the disarmament of Hizbollah -- one of the steps envisaged in U.N. Security Council resolution 1559 of 2004.

Mubarak said: "Long months have passed without full implementation of resolution 1559. It is inconceivable that what was not achieved in past years and months could be achieved in the midst of the current crisis and within a few weeks."

"That will not happen by diktats contained in U.N. Security Council resolutions which lack balance, but by taking into account Lebanese realities and concerns," he added.

Regarding the "new Middle East" concept promoted by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice early in the fighting, Mubarak said: "To talk about the 'new Middle East' or, before that, the 'Greater Middle East', ignores the real problem in the region, which is the suspension of the peace process."

"That leads to a rise in feelings of despair, frustration and extremism," he added.

The Egyptian state news agency MENA carried the complete text of the interview.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...EAST-EGYPT.xml
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syilla
08-11-2006, 06:40 PM
action is much better than saying....
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Keltoi
08-11-2006, 07:56 PM
How much credibility does Mubarak have with the middle east?
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Skillganon
08-11-2006, 09:33 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by sonz
Egypt says US losing credibility in Mideast

Thu Aug 10, 2006

CAIRO (Reuters) - Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak said the United States and the West were losing credibility in the Middle East because they were dragging their feet on a ceasefire in Lebanon between Israel and Hizbollah guerrillas.

In an interview with the Egyptian magazine October, released on Thursday, Mubarak also said it would be impossible to implement quickly a U.N. resolution which requires Hizbollah to disarm -- one of the steps Israel and the United States want to see in a political settlement of the month-old conflict.

He dismissed Washington's talk of "a new Middle East", saying it ignored what he called the real problem -- the collapse of attempts at peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

"Foot-dragging on a ceasefire and the continuation of the Israeli aggression detract from the credibility of the United States and the West in the region," Mubarak said.

"The United States has not moved to a sufficient extent and with the necessary speed to contain the situation," he added.

Washington has said it takes time to negotiate lasting security arrangements for south Lebanon. Analysts and diplomats say the United States has been trying to give Israel more time to damage Hizbollah and claim military success.

Israel and the United States want the Lebanese army, backed by international forces, to move into south Lebanon and supervise the disarmament of Hizbollah -- one of the steps envisaged in U.N. Security Council resolution 1559 of 2004.

Mubarak said: "Long months have passed without full implementation of resolution 1559. It is inconceivable that what was not achieved in past years and months could be achieved in the midst of the current crisis and within a few weeks."

"That will not happen by diktats contained in U.N. Security Council resolutions which lack balance, but by taking into account Lebanese realities and concerns," he added.

Regarding the "new Middle East" concept promoted by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice early in the fighting, Mubarak said: "To talk about the 'new Middle East' or, before that, the 'Greater Middle East', ignores the real problem in the region, which is the suspension of the peace process."

"That leads to a rise in feelings of despair, frustration and extremism," he added.

The Egyptian state news agency MENA carried the complete text of the interview.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...EAST-EGYPT.xml
Allowing U.N troops in that region will be a bad strategically.

Anyway what right has the U.N to disarm Hezbollah when they have around 70% of the lebanese support.
None.
What has the U.N being doing in Iraq when majority of the Iraqi's see the Iraq occupation as an invasion, and want's them to leave?

It's bush crap. I don't wan't to see. Call for a cease fire. Pressure for the prisoner exchange, and release of others. Pressure on the situation of Gaza, and disarmement of the so far stated illegal settlements.

Allowing U.N will be a Bad move.
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08-11-2006, 09:38 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
How much credibility does Mubarak have with the middle east?
LOOOOLLLLLL!!

Good question.....Annoying Mubarak, doesn't do anything to help.....But joins the game when the games is being won...
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Zulkiflim
08-11-2006, 10:05 PM
Salaam,

Yes i depsise our muslim leaders.

Only Malaysia has the guts to actually do something.

their deputy Prime ministers said that muslim countries should ahve cut ties with Israel long ago.
But since the US protect and gives wealth to these coutnries they cannot but see the money in front of their faces.

At the cost of the muslim around the world.
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Skillganon
08-11-2006, 10:26 PM
format_quote Originally Posted by Zulkiflim
Salaam,

Yes i depsise our muslim leaders.

Only Malaysia has the guts to actually do something.

their deputy Prime ministers said that muslim countries should ahve cut ties with Israel long ago.
But since the US protect and gives wealth to these coutnries they cannot but see the money in front of their faces.

At the cost of the muslim around the world.
I agree.
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"Mereka itu menjadikan sumpah mereka sebagai perisai, lalu mereka menghalangi (manusia) dari jalan Allah. Sesungguhnya amat buruklah apa yang telah mereka kerjakan"

"Yang demikian itu adalah karena bahwa sesungguhnya mereka telah beriman, kemudian menjadi kafir (lagi) lalu hati mereka dikunci mati; karena itu mereka tidak dapat mengerti."

"Dan apabila kamu melihat mereka, tubuh-tubuh mereka menjadikan kamu kagum. Dan jika mereka berkata kamu mendengarkan perkataan mereka. Mereka adalah seakan-akan kayu yang tersandar. Mereka mengira bahwa tiap-tiap teriakan yang keras ditujukan kepada mereka. Mereka itulah musuh (yang sebenarnya), maka waspadalah terhadap mereka; semoga Allah membinasakan mereka. Bagaimanakah mereka sampai dipalingkan (dari kebenaran)?"

"Dan apabila dikatakan kepada mereka: Marilah (beriman), agar Rasulullah memintakan ampunan bagimu, mereka membuang muka mereka dan kamu lihat mereka berpaling sedang mereka menyombongkan diri."

"Sama saja bagi mereka, kamu mintakan ampunan atau tidak kamu mintakan ampunan bagi mereka, Allah tidak akan mengampuni mereka; sesungguhnya Allah tidak memberi petunjuk kepada orang-orang yang fasik."

"Mereka orang-orang yang mengatakan (kepada orang-orang Ansar): ""Janganlah kamu memberikan perbelanjaan kepada orang-orang (Muhajirin) yang ada di sisi Rasulullah supaya mereka bubar (meninggalkan Rasulullah)"". Padahal kepunyaan Allah-lah perbendaharaan langit dan bumi, tetapi orang-orang munafik itu tidak memahami."

"Mereka berkata: ""Sesungguhnya jika kita telah kembali ke Madinah, benar-benar orang yang kuat akan mengusir orang-orang yang lemah daripadanya"". Padahal kekuatan itu hanyalah bagi Allah, bagi Rasul-Nya dan bagi orang-orang mukmin, tetapi orang-orang munafik itu tiada mengetahui."

"Hai orang-orang yang beriman, janganlah harta-hartamu dan anak-anakmu melalaikan kamu dari mengingat Allah. Barang siapa yang membuat demikian maka mereka itulah orang-orang yang rugi."

"Dan belanjakanlah sebagian dari apa yang telah Kami berikan kepadamu sebelum datang kematian kepada salah seorang di antara kamu; lalu ia berkata: ""Ya Tuhanku, mengapa Engkau tidak menangguhkan (kematian) ku sampai waktu yang dekat, yang menyebabkan aku dapat bersedekah dan aku termasuk orang-orang yang saleh?"

"Dan Allah sekali-kali tidak akan menangguhkan (kematian) seseorang apabila datang waktu kematiannya. Dan Allah Maha Mengetahui apa yang kamu kerjakan."
(63:1-11)
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Durrah
08-12-2006, 12:43 AM
The U.S never had any crediablity in the middle east amongst the average citzen of the region, in the same way that Arab leaders in the area have no crediablity amongst their people (although they can't say that out to loud incase they're slung in jail or killed- all sanctioned by the state)

anyways i wouldnt take the words of Mubrak so seriously, he's being pimped by the U.S like the rest of them lazy a** leaders in the M.E.
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Zulkiflim
08-12-2006, 02:23 AM
Salaam,

Inshallah a time will come when each and every one will be repiad in the coin they cast.

all the leders with their power and majesty on earth at the cost of others,trully they will be on the plain bereft of money and power and anything save their own deed..

And on that day everyone will say,,WHY DID I DO THAT..
IF I HAD ONLY KNOWN..

Beleiving they believe not..

But Allah is the most Just and Most Merciful
In the end Allah has said,,HIS MERCY SHALL OVERCOME HIS WRATH..
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Nablus
08-12-2006, 11:37 AM
Foot-dragging on a ceasefire and the continuation of the Israeli aggression detract from the credibility of the United States and the West in the region," Mubarak said.

Most of the nations in the world disrespect USA and UN bcz thy are

supporting (Terror) Israel



Mubarak one of the presidents who couraged Israel to hit Lebanon
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