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learningislam
08-16-2006, 06:04 PM
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Alhumdulillah its almost been a year that i have stopped giving birthday cards and gifts to my friends. And stopped wishing them too.
Today was my friend's birthday........she was expecting that i would call her, But i didn't. Instead she called in the evening, as she thought i had forgotten........ So.......i covered it up, ........like we are grown ups, wishing birthdays seems all that kiddy kind of things.........and changed the topic. Her mood was not O.k. in the beggining , but later......she was fine. She said it shows care.....and good feelings if you wish ur friends on their birthdays.

How should i put it up, in a light way, that all that "Birthday thing".......gifts, cards, and wishing.........is not accepted in islam ?
I am asking about.........Hikmat......a wise way......to deal with this?
If i just say it " Friend, its not good to celebrate, birthdays, these are western occasions, and that our Prophet Muhammad (sallalaho alaihay wa aalaiyhee wa sallam ) said: who ever follows any nation, will be one amongst them."
that would be like " see, u r not a good muslim........"..........
so well , i want to tell her, but not like in a humiliating way. I want to tell her, so that she might know about it and follow it in her life too.
Hope you get what i am saying.

So what do you think i should do in this regard.........?
JazakAllah Khair

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Hijaabi22
08-16-2006, 06:36 PM
I dont think am gna be a great help but personally if i was ya friend Id be pretty hurt 2, I mean what harm can there be in jus wishin sum1 happy birthday- jus 2 simple words which at the end of the day can make sum1 ver happy?? Its not like we celebrate birthdays with the whole partyin business
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SirZubair
08-16-2006, 06:40 PM
Exactly, thats what i do most of the time, just wish people a happy birthday.

Or as i call it these days, a happy bida'h...

* waiting for the bida'h brigade *
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learningislam
08-16-2006, 07:16 PM
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format_quote Originally Posted by ~pInK cHiCk~
I dont think am gna be a great help but personally if i was ya friend Id be pretty hurt 2, I mean what harm can there be in jus wishin sum1 happy birthday- jus 2 simple words which at the end of the day can make sum1 ver happy?? Its not like we celebrate birthdays with the whole partyin business
sis pink, its not just a matter of saying two words........as i said, ..........its not an islamic tradition, on the other hand, its the tradition of non muslims.Like these we see all our muslim youth celebrating, mother's day, father's day, friendship day, valentines day, woman's day.........(a long list)........Its just like following somebody. And when a person follows another nation, he is one amongst them, and his hisaab will be with them on the day of Qiyamah............

The last verse of the Quran , says:
"This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion."verse 3, surah Al Maeda

so after that when Allah has choosen Islam for us, then why should we wrong our selves?

Allah Almighty says in the Quran:
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to eachother. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them.Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. verse 51, surah al Maeda

There is this hadith which says:
"A person inevitably follows the faith of one's friends, therefore be careful in choosing your friends." (Abu dawud and Tirmidhi)

And Allah knows best.

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SirZubair
08-16-2006, 07:28 PM
How are Birthdays linked to Religon?

Even if Birthdays are somehow linked to Religon,..

..whats with the other examples?

Mothersday,fathersday?

Those are days when people choose to show appreciate to their parents.

Heck, i do not agree with it, simply because i believe they should show appreciation to their parents everyday of the year, not that one day of the year.

But for alot of people, that is not easy, so if that one day of the year is what it takes to make them appreciate their parents, so be it.

It is not an innovation, it is not a sin.

Live and let live.
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bint_muhammed
08-16-2006, 08:13 PM
so its ok to celebrate birthdays? when it was my birthday i got gifts from my mates and i felt awfull coz i didnt give them anything! i used to but my mother on her pilgrimage said that she heard it was wrong! i dont honestly see andy harm in it! i give gifts at eid, its more easier!
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- Qatada -
08-16-2006, 10:58 PM
Celebrating birthdays is not allowed


Question:

what is the evidence on celebrating birthdays,is it allowed in islam?



Answer:

The evidence in the Qur’aan and Sunnah indicates that celebrating birthdays is a kind of bid’ah or innovation in religion, which has no basis in the pure sharee’ah. It is not permitted to accept invitations to birthday celebrations, because this involves supporting and encouraging bid’ah. Allaah, may He be glorified and exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Or have they partners with Allaah (false gods) who have instituted for them a religion which Allaah has not allowed…?” [al-Shoora 42:21]


“Then We have put you (O Muhammad) on a plain way of (Our) commandment. So follow that, and follow not the desires of those who know not. Verily, they can avail you nothing against Allaah (if He wants to puish you). Verily, the zaalimoon (wrongdoers) are awliyaa’ (protectors, helpers, etc.) to one another, but Allaah is the Wali (Protector, Helper) of the muttaqoon (pious).” [al-Jaathiyah 45:18-19]


“Follow what has been sent down unto you from your Lord, and follow not any awliyaa’ (protectors, helpers, etc.) besides Him. Little do you remember!” [al-A’raaf 7:3]


According to saheeh reports, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever does something that is a not part of this matter of ours (i.e., Islam) will have it rejected” (reported by Muslim in his Saheeh); and “The best of speech is the Book of Allaah and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The most evil of things are those which have been newly invented (in religion), and every innovation is a going astray.” There are many other ahaadeeth that convey the same meaning.


Besides being bid’ah and having no basis in sharee’ah, these birthday celebrations also involve imitation of the Jews and Christians in their birthday celebrations. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, warning us against following their ways and traditions: “You would follow the ways of those who came before you step by step, to such an extent that if they were to enter a lizard’s hole, you would enter it too.” They said, “O Messenger of Allaah, (do you mean) the Jews and Christians?” He said, “Who else?” (Reported by al-Bukhaari and Muslim). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.”

Fataawa Islamiyyah, 1/115

source: http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...g&txt=birthday


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- Qatada -
08-16-2006, 11:09 PM
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Sister, you could explain to her that celebrating birthdays is kind of like imitating the disbelievers because in the past, they believed that because they've lived one year extra longer (because they don't believe in qadr/destiny) - they felt that they had beaten the power of nature, because they had survived an extra year longer. Whereas we believe in islam that our life is already recorded by Allaah Almighty; how long we are going to live for etc.

We all know that we are getting closer to the final hour, so instead of celebrating that we are closer to it - we should feel that we are closer to our judgement, so we should prepare for it instead.


Anas (radhiAllaahu anhu), a companion of prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) reported that when the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) migrated from Makkah to Madinah, the people of Madinah used to have two festivals. On those two days they had carnivals and festivity. Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) asked the Ansaar (the Muslims of Madinah) about it. They replied that before Islam they used to have carnivals on those two joyous days. The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) told them: 'Instead of those two days, Allah has appointed two other days which are better, the days of Eid-al-Fitr and Eid-al-Adha.'

(Nisa'i and Ibn Hibban)



So we have the eid's to celebrate, and instead of imitating the disbelievers - we should have halaal fun on those days instead insha'Allaah.

You should also explain to her the delights of jannah/paradise - and how she should strive hard to please Allaah Almighty in this life, and then she can celebrate as much days as she wants in jannah - forever, insha'Allaah. That is the real success, and the real celebration.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


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glo
08-24-2006, 07:28 AM
Personally, I would offer people congratulations or wishes on their celebrations - even if I don't celebrate them myself.
I wish people a happy Eid, although the celebration is of no importance to me.

Come December, do you wish your Christian friends and neighbours a happy Christmas?
If not, rethink!
Last year a Muslim neighbour wished us a happy Christmas and gave our children some chocolate for presents. I found that gesture so kind and humbling!
And it was that incident that made me find out more about Islam and eventually brought me here! :thankyou:

peace.
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DigitalStorm82
08-24-2006, 10:08 AM
Interesting.
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