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Dahir
08-29-2006, 12:26 AM
Code = Broken

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dougmusr
08-31-2006, 03:22 AM
Originally Posted by Dahir
You'd think you would look for something a bit harder to crack.
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Dahir
08-31-2006, 04:15 AM
Originally Posted by dougmusr
You'd think you would look for something a bit harder to crack.
I know, but its a start. I mean no one's publicly attempted to break the code, this is a start. Everyone knows the "code" is fiction, but its best to lay the theorists to rest NOW.
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Zulkiflim
08-31-2006, 04:31 PM
Salaam,

Perhaps you should be telling the chrisitan that and not us.

for us we already know.
why dont you psot these finding on a christian forum.
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FatimaAsSideqah
04-21-2007, 10:24 PM
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Da Vinci Code controversy - It is everywhere! Dan Brown's book claims Jesus in not divine or God, and the gospels as we know them, have been changed, and after Jesus stay here on earth, men raised his status to the level of God. Could any of this be true?

Ancient secrets of the Church, hidden for centuries have actually been revealed and published in books prior to the fictional writings of Brown in the Da Vinci Code. Baigent and Leigh have produced other books from researchers point of view over the last two decades, including "Dead Sea Scrolls Deception", "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", and "Messianic Legacy." These books were the talk of the religious communities when they came out in the early 90's and certianly they have fueled an ongoing interest into just exactly who was this man Jesus, what was his message and what happened to him?

Islam claims to "break the code" so to speak, over 1,400 years ago. The answer, according to Muslm scholars has been in the Quran for over fourteen hundred years

Some may be surprised to learn, Muslims believe in the miracle birth and other miracles associated with Jesus. They actually consider him as the "Messiah" and they even say, "peace be upon him" when mentioning his name. However, they are quick to negate any connection between God and Jesus as a partnership or God-head, and they rule out the notion of God having any son (or daughter for that matter).

Here is how Muslim scholars present their understanding and "break the code":

How Muslim scholars "broke the code":

Creation itself tells us there is a creator and from the beginning of time – Allah, (the One God in Arabic) alone is to be worshiped. This is clear teaching throughout the Old testament (Torah), the scriptures that Jesus himself read and taught from. God is one not one of three; for example: ‘He is God; there is no other besides Him’. (Deuteronomy 4:35). The same is mentioned in the book of Mark in the New Testament, chapter 12, verse 29, when Jesus, peace be upon him, had been asked about the Greatest Commandment he replied, "To know, O Israel, the Lord your God is One Lord; and you have to love Him with all your heart and all your mind and all your strength."

According to the oldest and most authentic copies of manuscipts and scrolls available throughout the centuries, Jesus, peace be upon him, never claimed to be God, or the creator, or the One to pray to, nor did he tell his followers to revere him as God. These notions appear on the lips of others who came along decades and even centuries later.

While Jesus was on earth he did not claim to be the creator or ask us to revere him as God. His miraculous birth is a sign of his prophethood: “Verily, the likeness of Jesus before Allah, is the likeness of Adam. He (Allah) created him from dust and said “Be!” and he was” (Quran 3:59). Like all the great and noble prophets of Allah such as Adam, Abraham, Moses, Isaac and David, Jesus came with one message: Worship, love, obey and submit to the one true God, Allah, the creator of everything and do not worship anything besides Allah.

Throughout history, people have taken to worship things or people alongside Allah, or just worshiping something else like power, status or money. Even the names of religions seem have more to do with the creation and less or nothing to do with the Creator. For example: Buddhism – Buddha (the name of a man), Confucianism – Confucius (the name of a man), Hinduism – Hind (the name of an area), Judaism – Judah (the name of a tribe) and Christianity – Christ (the name of a great prophet).

Islam is different. Islam is a word coming from the verb "aslama" and it carries the meaning of "surrender", "submission", "obedience", "sincerity" and "peace" between you and Almighty Allah (God) and not to any human or anything within creation. Anyone who practices Islam submits to and worships Allah, alone without any partners of any kind.

The Quran states: "There is only One God (Allah) then have reverance for Me and fear Me (and Me alone)." To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and on earth, and to Him is duty due always: then will ye fear other than Allah?" (Quran 16:51-52)

Isn’t it time you join Jesus, the son of Mary, along with all of the other Prophets of Allah and practice the "Submission to the Will of God" (Islam)?

Or simply put: "Worship the Creator - and not His Creations!"
http://www.islamcode.com/

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Al_Imaan
04-21-2007, 10:40 PM
its a great article doncha think?......sorry to tell u this but its been posted up before....by....me...:D...
http://www.islamicboard.com/discover...de-broken.html
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FatimaAsSideqah
04-21-2007, 10:42 PM
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Oh silly me! :-[ ..but thanks for remind me! :thumbs_up

I think it is good article!

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Trumble
04-22-2007, 12:34 AM
Da Vinci Code controversy - It is everywhere! Dan Brown's book claims Jesus in not divine or God, and the gospels as we know them, have been changed, and after Jesus stay here on earth, men raised his status to the level of God. Could any of this be true?

Ancient secrets of the Church, hidden for centuries have actually been revealed and published in books prior to the fictional writings of Brown in the Da Vinci Code. Baigent and Leigh have produced other books from researchers point of view over the last two decades, including "Dead Sea Scrolls Deception", "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", and "Messianic Legacy." These books were the talk of the religious communities when they came out in the early 90's and certianly they have fueled an ongoing interest into just exactly who was this man Jesus, what was his message and what happened to him?
Dan Brown's book is a novel, and Baigent and Leigh's are just novels dressed up as 'research'.

For anyone with a real interest in other views of Jesus outside a purely Islamic perspective try Vermes' The Authentic Gospel of Jesus or A.N. Wilson's Jesus which are both works of scholarship and not sensationalist rubbish.
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Muezzin
04-22-2007, 02:37 PM
Ordinarily, I'd close this thread and refer to the link for the existing topic in Comparative Religion, but because that forum is temporarily closed, I don't see the harm in letting people discuss the article in this thread for the time being.

Later on when Comparative Religion is re-opened the posts can be merged into the existing thread.

Carry on. :)

Edit: Woudja look at that? It's only gone and been re-opened.
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Abdul Fattah
04-22-2007, 03:29 PM
I think it's dangerous to jump on the hyped bandwagon.
People might fall of once the wagon stops.
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Grace Seeker
04-24-2007, 12:50 AM
The conclusion of the article on how Islam broke the DaVinci Code makes an appeal to Christians:
The Quran states: "There is only One God (Allah) then have reverance for Me and fear Me (and Me alone)." To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and on earth, and to Him is duty due always: then will ye fear other than Allah?" (Quran 16:51-52)

Isn’t it time you join Jesus, the son of Mary, along with all of the other Prophets of Allah and practice the "Submission to the Will of God" (Islam)?

Or simply put: "Worship the Creator - and not His Creations!"
I don't say the following to promote my religion, but to explain how such an appeal would be seen as non-sensical by Christians.

The Christians response to this appeal is that in worshipping Jesus, we already understand ourselves to be worshipping the Creator, for we believe them to be one in the same. Our scriptures teach us: "For by him [Christ] all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him" (Colossians 1:16).

So, while I don't think any more of the DaVinci Code than others in this thread, I hardly think that the response supplies makes any appeal to Christians. The statement quote from the Quran -- "There is only One God (Allah) then have reverance for Me and fear Me (and Me alone)." -- is something we would find ourselves in agreement with. We also agree that "To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and on earth, and to Him is duty due always." The article challenges the concept of Jesus' divinity, but in the end it does not ask us to do anything different than Christians have always done, including practicing "Submission to the Will of God". Perhaps the article would have been better titled "Islam endorses ideology of the DaVinci Code"?
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