Slang lingo.. 4 da peeps hu dn't want der warnin level to get any higha.

[afriend]

does saying "my bad" count as slang on this site??

hahaha...yeah, u can use American Slang ;)

[Mujahidah4Allah]

:sl:

kitty i'll be the imama right the Prophet Muhammad [saw] was the last messenger no other messenger will come after him well hasnt... [tis not in slang but oh wel :p]

ma'salamah

[Hijaabi22]

salam.

jazakallah, oh so ew was da last messenger? it was muhammad ryt? so after em was it any1 else?
w.salam

P.S DIZ WRITING IS HARD FOR ME ARGHH:rant:

I bear witness that there is no God but Allah(swt) and Muhammed (pbuh) is the LAST AND FINAL messenger :)

[Kittygyal]

:sl:

kitty i'll be the imama right the Prophet Muhammad [saw] was the last messenger no other messenger will come after him well hasnt... [tis not in slang but oh wel :p]

ma'salamah

salam.
so whom was the other messengers then?? are they the same as prophets? *i am confused pal*:heated:
w.salam

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[Kittygyal]

I bear witness that there is no God but Allah(swt) and Muhammed (pbuh) is the LAST AND FINAL messenger :)

salam.
this is queesn princess ryt?? oh i can see you know:uhwhat
w.salam

[Mujahidah4Allah]

:sl:

well the rest it starts from Adham [as] being the first then i wish i had my list to tell you [ i'm a rubbish imama *looks at Fi Sab for ansaz* ]

ma'salamah

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex


Afta Muhammad (peace be upon him) theres neva gna be no mo prophets or messengers, and it's gna stay that way till da day of judgement. So anyone hu sayz hez a prophet or sutin, we know dey lyin cuz therz no mo prophets or messengers from now on.. You can read about the otha prophets and der life stories from dis link insha'Allaah:

http://www.islamicboard.com/prophets-islam/


Remember that all da otha prophets came fo der own nations, buh Muhammad (peace be upon him) came for the whole world. And it's gna stay dat way till da day of judgement.



Sis nazia - if u wna say sori 2 da person - den why na giv her a present or smtin? or lyk jus tel her straight up, or through a friend dat yo real sori.. dey mite 4giv u insha'Allaah.. buh if u think it mite cause biga arguments between u2, u shud pray for dat person atleast cuz dats part of da tawbah process..


Allaah Almighty knows best.


:salamext:

[Kittygyal]

salam.

jazakallah brother, oh i forgot to say is it true that the prophets will be alive when we die && we will be alive when we die?? i don't seem to get that in my brain i seriously can't get it nor believe it don't know why tho :(
w.salam

[Hijaabi22]

loooooooooool bro sowi but u so dont suit talkin in slanggggggg ahahahaha dont ask me yyyyyy lol its jus i always think of u as 1 of the more errrrrrrrmmm how can i put it...more Serious? and grown up members hu knows his stuff there4 SHUDNT B ALLOWED 2 CHAT IN SLNG LINGO lol

[Mujahidah4Allah]

:sl:

alive n die wats diz about? barzakh? :?

ma'salamah

[Mujahidah4Allah]

loooooooooool bro sowi but u so dont suit talkin in slanggggggg ahahahaha dont ask me yyyyyy lol its jus i always think of u as 1 of the more errrrrrrrmmm how can i put it...more Serious? and grown up members hu knows his stuff there4 SHUDNT B ALLOWED 2 CHAT IN SLNG LINGO lol

lolzzzz rofl innit sis i knw wat ya mean da imam speakz slang maayyynnn dats funny hahaha raaahhh hahahahaha

ma'salamah

[Hijaabi22]

salam.

jazakallah brother, oh i forgot to say is it true that the prophets will be alive when we die && we will be alive when we die?? i don't seem to get that in my brain i seriously can't get it nor believe it don't know why tho :(
w.salam

ma gal u still new 2 islam , knowledge will cum ova tymmm inshaAllah!

[Hijaabi22]

lolzzzz rofl innit sis i knw wat ya mean da imam speakz slang maayyynnn dats funny hahaha raaahhh hahahahaha

ma'salamah

lol iniiiiiiiitttttttttttttttttttttttttt

[Kittygyal]

:sl:

alive n die wats diz about? barzakh? :?

ma'salamah

salam.

noooo!! i mean many people have told me when we die we will be alive again && also that the prophets will be alive too, am talking about death here.

w.salam

P.S I CAN'T WRITE IN SLANG ANYMORE SO IF ANYONE HATES ME CAUSE OF THIS OR DOESN'T WANT ME IN THIS THREAD THEN TUFF!! CAN'T STAND SLANG NO MORE GROWN UPS HERE :uuh:

[Hijaabi22]

salam.

noooo!! i mean many people have told me when we die we will be alive again && also that the prophets will be alive too, am talking about death here.

w.salam

P.S I CAN'T WRITE IN SLANG ANYMORE SO IF ANYONE HATES ME CAUSE OF THIS OR DOESN'T WANT ME IN THIS THREAD THEN TUFF!! CAN'T STAND SLANG NO MORE GROWN UPS HERE :uuh:

u talkin bout life afta death sis?

[Kittygyal]

ma gal u still new 2 islam , knowledge will cum ova tymmm inshaAllah!

SALAM

INSHALLAH MY QUEEN :) AKA :love:
W.SALAM

[Mujahidah4Allah]

:sl:

i fink ur talkin about the world of barzakh? tis wer u go afta ya die... n den afta barzakh tis the DOJ i fink

ma'salamah

[Kittygyal]

u talkin bout life afta death sis?

salam.
yes am talking about that when we die && then become alive, am like so like not so like humm.... finding it hard to belive that we become alive again :uhwhat
w.salam

[Mujahidah4Allah]

:sl:

life afta def exists tis tru ya knw ... dis lyfs a test no point livin in it if we aint gots no purpose get me ?

ma'salamah

[Kittygyal]

:sl:

i fink ur talkin about the world of barzakh? tis wer u go afta ya die... n den afta barzakh tis the DOJ i fink

ma'salamah

salam.
me don't know what your on about sis whats "barzakh"?? && i don't undestand you by your slang especially the "tis that tis" lord am like going to roast now :grumbling
w.salam

[Hijaabi22]

:eek: sis u not denyin that theres a lyf afta death r ya??? thats one of the most important muslim beliefs!!!! THEER IS A LIFE AFTER DEATH sis thats wer heaven n helll cums in :)

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


lol am younga den all of ya.. so nah i'm no imaam. Buh yeah anywy - sis kittygyal - it's just a matter of faith init. You jus gota ask yoself, why are we in dis world? We responsible fo erythin we do in dis world, so obviously we gna be brought back to Allaah - and the one'z who do gud 2 plz Allaah, dey wil get rewarded and da 1z hu do bad - dey'll get punished..


Just think of watz hapnin 2 our bruvaz n sistaz.. do u think the disbelievaz will get away with it? No - Allaah will judge them and maybe even punish them, but the believaz wil get rewarded fo dey patience insha'Allaah.. dis worldz onli a test.. so u wil be rewarded fo yo patience insha'Allaah.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

[Mujahidah4Allah]

:sl:

tis from da shakespeare lingo rofl lolz barzakh ask da imam Fi Sabilillah inshaAllah he'l explain it 2 ya :p

ma'salamah

[Kittygyal]

:sl:

life afta def exists tis tru ya knw ... dis lyfs a test no point livin in it if we aint gots no purpose get me ?

ma'salamah

salam.
so when we die ryt? we straight away become alive again? so will we be able to see our love ones there or not? am seriously confused here never get it right :uhwhat
w.salam

[Hijaabi22]

fi sabilillah NO WAYYYYYYYYYS man u cant be younfger then moi!

[Mujahidah4Allah]

oh yeh fi sabz a child didnt ya knw rofl lol he's in da college yrz :p

we dnt straight be alive tis our soul dat goes to anuva world called barzakh n barzakh is a world os spirits n dis is wen da imam Fi Sabz suppozd 2 help me out!!!

ma'salamah

[Hijaabi22]

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh college years?!!!! HOW WEN WHY ?

[Kittygyal]

:salamext:


lol am younga den all of ya.. so nah i'm no imaam. Buh yeah anywy - sis kittygyal - it's just a matter of faith init. You jus gota ask yoself, why are we in dis world? We responsible fo erythin we do in dis world, so obviously we gna be brought back to Allaah - and the one'z who do gud 2 plz Allaah, dey wil get rewarded and da 1z hu do bad - dey'll get punished..


Just think of watz hapnin 2 our bruvaz n sistaz.. do u think the disbelievaz will get away with it? No - Allaah will judge them and maybe even punish them, but the believaz wil get rewarded fo dey patience insha'Allaah.. dis worldz onli a test.. so u wil be rewarded fo yo patience insha'Allaah.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

salam.
ok, i wana clear this up && get in order in me brain, so when we die we be alive again right or wrong?, also i don't understand is we don't know if Allah is a gyal or a boy so when we will be questioned on the day of judgement is Allah going to be infront of us so whom is going to be talking& asking all these questions to us?
w.salam

[Mujahidah4Allah]

i knw he seems older cuza his knowledge innit mashaAllah he's mature for his age neways i sound like i knw da guy lolz rofl bak to da imam Q's :p

ma'salamah

[Kittygyal]

oh yeh fi sabz a child didnt ya knw rofl lol he's in da college yrz :p

we dnt straight be alive tis our soul dat goes to anuva world called barzakh n barzakh is a world os spirits n dis is wen da imam Fi Sabz suppozd 2 help me out!!!

ma'salamah

salam.
okay i don't understand you sis am sowiee but i don't :cry: anywho help me out people write in formal not slang please just for abit for me ok.:hiding: :uhwhat
w.salam

[Mujahidah4Allah]

salam.
ok, i wana clear this up && get in order in me brain, so when we die we be alive again right or wrong?, also i don't understand is we don't know if Allah is a gyal or a boy so when we will be questioned on the day of judgement is Allah going to be infront of us so whom is going to be talking& asking all these questions to us?
w.salam

it'l be Allah [swt] He will question us for our actions in dis world...

ma'salamah

[Hijaabi22]

salam.
so when we die ryt? we straight away become alive again? so will we be able to see our love ones there or not? am seriously confused here never get it right :uhwhat
w.salam

OK AS FAR AS I KNOW WHEN U DIE, THEER IS A PERIOD CALLED BARZAKH- This is the time between ya death and the Day OF JUDGEMNT. Durin this tym ull be questioned in the grave etc etc. Thren on the DOJ EVERYONE will be raised again :cry: :cry: and thats when ya final destination is given to ya

MAY ALLAH SWT GRANT ALL OF UZ N ALL OUR FAMILIES A PLACE IN JAANAH AMEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN¬

[Mujahidah4Allah]

ameen sis def can strike at ne tym :cry: we must b prepard

ma'salamah

[- Qatada -]

Sis kittygyal - wen you dying - the angels pull da soul out of da persons body. Which means that your soul is still alive, buh ur bodies dead - it's got no life in.


If you been a good person, the good angels will come n take yo soul away, buh if da person waz evil and a disbelieva - da scary angelz will come and take dey soul away. When your in yo grave - da angels will ask:

1) Who's your God? Allaah

2) Who's the Messenger? Muhammad (peace be upon him)

3) What was your religion? Islam.


If you get them right, and a person will only get them right if they believed in Allaah, His prophets and islam properly etc. then the angels will open a window in the persons grave and tell tham that this is where you would have been (hell) - but because your muslim, you gna go paradise/jannah insha'Allaah.

So the person waits in their grave waiting for the day of judgement - the disbeliever will be scared cuz he can see the window of hell, but the believer is excited because he sees the window of paradise/jannah.


When the trumpet is blown - everyone will be brought back to life and everyone will be judged on the day of judgement. And Allaah will judge between them, and the disbelievers will go hell, but the one's who believed properly from their heart will enter jannah/paradise insha'Allaah.



That's a little summary, but if you want to listen to some lectures on the hereafter, you can insha'Allaah off the following link:

http://www.streetdawah.com/anwaralawlaki.html

Download the Hereafter series insha'Allaah.



Allaah Almighty knows best. and i writ this normal so sis kittygyal could understand insha'Allaah.


Peace.

[Hijaabi22]

i knw he seems older cuza his knowledge innit mashaAllah he's mature for his age neways i sound like i knw da guy lolz rofl bak to da imam Q's :p

ma'salamah

mashaAllaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!!

[Hijaabi22]

im gtn scared now :cry:

[Kittygyal]

it'l be Allah [swt] He will question us for our actions in dis world...

ma'salamah

salam.
I DON'T GET IT!!!! :rant: am roasting here (bare with me people if i start getting angry am just confused && i don't get it i don't mean to be nasty:heated: )

so we don't know Allah is a gyal or a boy but when we die he will be infront of us ryt? so obviously then we will find out if he is a gyal or a boy or would he be hidden from us?? :uhwhat *i feel as if am going to cry i feel very dumb here!!*
w.salam

[Mujahidah4Allah]

:sl:

Allah [swt] is a HE, from what i beleiev no one knows what He looks like but i dont think from my logic He looks anything like us... Allahu A3alam [Allah knows best]

ma'salamah

[Kittygyal]

Sis kittygyal - wen you dying - the angels pull da soul out of da persons body. Which means that your soul is still alive, buh ur bodies dead - it's got no life in.


If you been a good person, the good angels will come n take yo soul away, buh if da person waz evil and a disbelieva - da scary angelz will come and take dey soul away. When your in yo grave - da angels will ask:

1) Who's your God? Allaah

2) Who's the Messenger? Muhammad (peace be upon him)

3) What was your religion? Islam.


If you get them right, and a person will only get them right if they believed in Allaah, His prophets and islam properly etc. then the angels will open a window in the persons grave and tell tham that this is where you would have been (hell) - but because your muslim, you gna go paradise/jannah insha'Allaah.

So the person waits in their grave waiting for the day of judgement - the disbeliever will be scared cuz he can see the window of hell, but the believer is excited because he sees the window of paradise/jannah.


When the trumpet is blown - everyone will be brought back to life and everyone will be judged on the day of judgement. And Allaah will judge between them, and the disbelievers will go hell, but the one's who believed properly from their heart will enter jannah/paradise insha'Allaah.



That's a little summary, but if you want to listen to some lectures on the hereafter, you can insha'Allaah off the following link:

http://www.streetdawah.com/anwaralawlaki.html

Download the Hereafter series insha'Allaah.



Allaah Almighty knows best. and i writ this normal so sis kittygyal could understand insha'Allaah.


Peace.

salam.
jazakallah brother for that, ok now i need to know will i be able to see my love ones whom have died? whom are christains?? or will christains be in a different area to muslims?
w.salam

[Kittygyal]

im gtn scared now :cry:

salam.
same here am getting scared too because obvilousy i was a "christain" && i never ever believed this but it's like whoo0 i can't believe this so am really really scared NOW!!:cry:
w.salam

[Mujahidah4Allah]

:sl:

hmmm Allah knows best if you'll see them or not, you see when you die, and when you go to Barzakh theres a divider the good people who lived their lives according to how allah [swt] wanted will attain a bit of paradise [i think, and the bad with a bit of taste of hell [ i think * ermmm Fi Sab help me here thanx* ]

ma'salamah

[Kittygyal]

salam.
when we die are we going to be gyals && boys together?
w.salam

[- Qatada -]

By the way - Allaah isn't a He or She. There is nothing like Allaah, and the only reason people say He is because of the language. In real life, Allaah has no gender:

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download: http://www.sabbir.com/DownloadHalal.html


Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,

Allah , the Eternal Refuge.

He neither begets (doesn't have children) nor is born, ,

Nor is there to Him any equivalent."


Surah Ikhlaas [112]




:wasalamex

[Kittygyal]

salam.

i don't get it are christains going to be together?, my collegue at work told me we won't && the christains have there own way but still that convo led to a argument cause i never believed it :(
w.salam

[Mujahidah4Allah]

yeh that's what i'm trying to say we dont know what He looks like but it's He from the terms of 'Hu' on Alllahu i think???

ma'salamah

[Kittygyal]

By the way - Allaah isn't a He or She. There is nothing like Allaah, and the only reason people say He is because of the language. In real life, Allaah has no gender:


http://www.sabbir.com/Media/Quran/112%20Al-Ikhlas.mp3

download: http://www.sabbir.com/DownloadHalal.html


Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,

Allah , the Eternal Refuge.

He neither begets (doesn't have children) nor is born, ,

Nor is there to Him any equivalent."


Surah Ikhlaas [112]




:wasalamex

salam.
but when we will be questioned am sure we will find out won't we if he is a gyal or a boy won't we??:?
w.salam

P.S I HAVE TO GO NOW INSHALLAH I WILL COEM BACK TO THIS

[- Qatada -]

When we die, we will still be guys and gyalz insha'Allaah. But people will be in new bodies, when they will go to hell or paradise.


But when a person dies, they will be brought back to life with the people that they love - so it's really important that you love Allaah and the believers.


There is none like Allaah: "Nor is there to Him any equivalent."" - Allaah isn't a he or she, it's just the way of language. Just imagine when some people say for example to a car "shes a beauty" - the cars really not a male or a female, but it's just how people use language.


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

[Mujahidah4Allah]

:sl:

hmm tru jazakAllah khair for the info :)

ma3asalamah

[Kittygyal]

salam.

ok jazakallah brother. ;)

w.salam

[Angel]

ppl tol ME dat YOU ent makin sense or is it dat ppl hasnt ppl eva tol me dat i dnt make sence :?

u make purrrrfect sence :thumbs_up :)....n i fink i do too ;)

:w:

c sis i dnt mak snce;D
yh wah i mnt waz wat u said *haz pple evr tld u dat u dnt mak snce* n sid 2 tlk proba :)

[Kittygyal]

salam.

i wana know more about when we die && stuff!

w.salam

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

I made a thread about this if u wana take a look at it. If u havent already. Might help.

http://www.islamicboard.com/discover...tml#post475893

Peace

[The Ruler]

salam.

i wana know more about when we die && stuff!

w.salam

so wt dya wanna kno...ask away n il ansr insha'allah :)

:w:

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex


sis kittgyal - ask anytime insha'Allaah.. we ere 2 ansa if we can insha'Allah.


:salamext:

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

sis kitty ask awy init :p :D

[Kittygyal]

salam.

okay i wana know what happens when we die && that

w.salam

[chacha_jalebi]

theres loads of stuff that happen after we die,

1 - our soul is taken out, if we goodies then the angel gently takes the soul out & takes it up, and if it is bad its thrown all d way down until it lands in da body

2 - if we baddies then our body smells like propa bad, but if we goodys then inshallah will smell tick tock :D:D:D

3 - everyone is punished by the grave sqeezin them, apart frm the Prophets (alayhi salaam)!

4 - as soon as we r buried our questionin happens

5 - and erm after we die we are buried :p lol naa sister theres loads inshallah me will post up sum hadiths :D:D:D

[Kittygyal]

salam.

what i don't get is when we will be questions is Allah going to be hidden from us?? are we going to see his face??


i feel as if am dumb!!! :'(

w.salam

[amatu]

wats up ppl

[Kittygyal]

wats up ppl

salam.
nothing :)

w.salam

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex


Sister, people will see Allaah properly in jannah/paradise because that will be a reward for the believers. the people in paradise will see Allaah soo clearly and Allaah is really beautiful, and it will be the greatest reward for all the people there because they will see Allaah, the one that they worshipped - all of their lives. In paradise/jannah - they will have anything they want there aswell.


One of the punishment of the people of hell who are disbelievers will be that they will never get to see Allaah, and that will be a really bad punishment - because who doesn't want to see their Beautiful Creator Allaah?


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

[Kittygyal]

:wasalamex


Sister, people will see Allaah properly in jannah/paradise because that will be a reward for the believers. the people in paradise will see Allaah soo clearly and Allaah is really beautiful, and it will be the greatest reward for all the people there because they will see Allaah, the one that they worshipped - all of their lives. In paradise/jannah - they will have anything they want there aswell.


One of the punishment of the people of hell who are disbelievers will be that they will never get to see Allaah, and that will be a really bad punishment - because who doesn't want to see their Beautiful Creator Allaah?


Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

salam.
so when we see Allah we will reconginse if he is a boy or a gyal right or wrong? :uhwhat
w.salam

[chacha_jalebi]

sister there will be basic questions asked by angels of Allah (swt) who are called hadhrat Nakeer & Munkar (alayhi salam) they question us in our graves! they will ask Qs like, what religion did you follow? who is your god? who is your Prophet? and what did you say about so & so & so? and you did so & so ....

sister read this hadiths its long but it will clear a lot for you, inshallah, its narrated by Ibn Hanbal, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah, so its propa authentic

Upon the authority of al-Bara' ibn `Aazib who said: We went out with the the Prophet (salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) to a burial of a man from the Ansar (original inhabitants of Madina) until we arrived at the grave, and he still had not been placed in the slot of the grave.

Then the Messenger of Allah (salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) sat down and we sat around him. You would have thought that birds were upon our heads from our silence, and in the hand of the Messenger of Allah (salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) was a stick which he was poking the ground with. [Then he started looking at the sky and looking at the earth and looking up down three times]. Then he said to us: "Ask Allah for refuge from the torment of the grave", he repeated this command two or three times. [Then he said O Allah I seek refuge in you from the torment of the grave] [three times]. Then he said: "Verily, the believing servant, when leaving this life and journeying to the hereafter angels will descend upon him, their faces will be white as if they were suns, they will have with them a shroud (kafan) from the shroud of Paradise), and an embalmment (HanouT) from the embalmments of heaven. Then, they will sit within eye-shot of him.

Then the angel of death (peace be upon him) will come and sit at his head and will say "O you virtuous soul; come out to a forgiveness and a pleasure from your Lord ". So it will come out as a drop comes out of the mouth of a jug (with ease), then he will take it, not leaving it in his hand for longer that a blink of an eye until they (he and the other angels) have placed it in that shroud and that embalmment. And there will emanate from it a smell like that of the most sweet smelling musk on the face of the earth. Then they shall ascend with it, and they shall not pass with it by any group of angels but they will say: What is this good and sweet-smelling soul?. Then they shall say to them (he is) "such" the son of "such" choosing the best of the names he used to be called in this life. Until they reach the lowest sky, then they shall ask permission to enter, and they shall be granted entry, until they end at the seventh heaven sky, then Allah, exalted and high, shall say: "write the book of my servant in `illiyeen (1) [And what will explain to you what Illiyeen is `illiyeen, there is a register fully inscribed to which bear witness those nearest to Allah (see 83:18)], and his book will be written in `illiyeen, and the shall be said "return him to the earth, for [I promised them] I have created them from it, and into it I shall return them, and from it I shall extract (resurrect) them a second time (20:55)". So [he is returned to earth and] his soul is returned to his body [he said and he will hear the footsteps of his friends who buried him when they leave him].

Then two [severe] angels shall come and [terrify him and] sit him up next to them and shall ask him: "Who is your Lord?". He shall reply "My Lord is Allah". Then they shall ask him: "What is your religion?". He shall answer them: "My religion is Islam". Then they shall ask him "Who is this man who was sent among you?". He will reply "He is the Messenger of Allah (salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) peace be upon him". Then they shall ask him "What have you done?". He shall reply: "I read the book of Allah, then I believed in it and accepted it". [The angel will terrify him and ask him "who is your Lord?", "what is your religion?" "who is your prophet?", and this will be the last trial on earth for the believer, it is then when Allah says : "Allah will establish in strength those who believe with the word that stands firm in this world", so he will answer my Lord is Allah, my religion is Islam and my Prophet is Mohammad salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam. Then a caller will call from the sky: "My slave has spoken the truth, so spread out for him from the heaven, and clothe him from the heaven, and open a door for him from the heaven (within his grave)", so it's goodness and its smell will come unto him, then his grave will be expanded for him as far as he can see.

Then a man will come to him. His face will be handsome, and his clothes will be handsome, and his smell will be sweet. Then he shall say unto him: I bring you glade tidings of that which will make you happy [Rejoice with a pleasure of Allah and delights that endure]. This is the day that you were promised (46:16). Then he will say [and may Allah give you glad tiding] "who are you?, for your face is the face of someone who comes with good news". He shall reply: "I am your good deeds, [by Allah, I did not know of you but that you were quick to the obedience of Allah and slow to His disobedience, so may Allah reward you good]". Then he shall say: "My Lord bring the hour so that I might return to my family and my wealth" [it will be said to him "be tranquil"].

He (Mohammed, salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: { And the disbelieving [transgressor/wicked] servant}, if he is leaving this life and journeying to the hereafter then angels will descend upon him, their faces will be black, they have with them a coarse woolen fabric (sackcloth)[ made of fire]. Then they will sit within eye-shot of him. Then the angel of death will come and sit at his head and will say "O you wicked soul; come out to a anger from your Lord and a fury (from Him)". So it will be distributed (spread out) throughout his body, then it will be ripped away as a skewer/spit is ripped out of damp cotton [and in its way out it will tear and cut the nerves and blood vessels] [and then he will be cursed by all the angels between the earth and the sky and by all the angels in the sky, and the gates of heaven are closed. There is no gate in the heaven but its people supplicate that the wicked soul shall not be ascended to their side], then he will take it (the soul), not leaving it in his hand for longer than a blink of an eye until they have placed it in that sackcloth. And there will emanate from it a stench like that of the most evil smelling corpse on the face of the earth. Then they shall ascend with it, and they shall not pass with it by a group of angels but they will say: What is this wicked soul?. Then they shall say to them (he is) "such" the son of "such" choosing the most hated of the names he used to be called in this life. Until they reach the lowest heaven (sky), then they shall ask permission to enter, and they shall not be granted entry. Then the Messenger of Allah (salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) recited "The doors of the sky are not opened to them, nor shall they enter heaven until the camel passes through the eye of the needle" (7:40).

Then Allah, exalted and high, shall say: "write the book of my servant in Sijjeen (2)(83:7) in the lowest earth". [Then will be said "return my slave to the earth, for I promised them I have created them from it, and into it I shall return them, and from it I shall extract (resurrect) them a second time (20:55)"]. Then his soul shall be taken away [from the sky] with a mighty hurl [until it is cast into his body]. Then he (the Prophet salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) read: "and those who associate partners with Allah, They are as one who falls from the sky then is snatched by the birds or is cast by the wind into a very low place (22:31)". Then his soul will be returned into his body, [he (the prophet) said : verily he will hear the footsteps of his friends who buried him when they leave him]. Then two harsh severe and fearsome angels shall come and [terrify him and] sit him up and shall ask him: "Who is your Lord?". He shall reply "Huh?, Huh (this is an expression of sorrow), I don't know". Then they shall ask him: "What is your religion?". He shall answer them: "Huh?, Huh?, I don't know". Then they shall ask him "Who is this man who was sent among you?". He will reply "Huh?, Huh?, I don't know [I heard people saying that!]". He (the Prophet salla Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said "And then will be said to him don't ever know and don't ever recite!"].

Then a caller will call from the sky: "My slave has spoken falsely, so spread out for him from the hell fire, and open a door for him from the hell fire (within his grave)", so its heat and hot wind will come unto him, then his grave will be contracted upon him until his limbs are caught up among one another. Then a man will come to him. His face will be ugly, and his clothes will be ugly, and his smell will be vile. Then he shall say unto him: I bring you tidings of that which will harm you. This is the day that you were promised (70:44). Then he will say [and you, may Allah give you bad tiding] "who are you?, for your face is the face of someone who comes with evil". He shall reply: "I am your evil deeds [by Allah, I did not know of you but that you were quick to the disobedience of Allah and slow to His obedience, so may Allah reward you bad, and then will be assigned to him a blind, deaf and mute person who holds in his hand a hammer, if a mountain is hit with it, it would disintegrate, and he will beat him with it until he becomes dust, and then Allah will render him to his initial form, and he will beat him again, and he (the wicked) will cry of sorrow and pain a cry that will be heard by all creatures except humans and jinn, and a door of hell will be opened unto him within his grave and will spread out for him sheets of hell fire]". Then he shall say: "My Lord do not bring the hour".

[- Qatada -]

salam.
so when we see Allah we will reconginse if he is a boy or a gyal right or wrong? :uhwhat
w.salam

There is nothing like Allaah sis. And none is like Him.(Qur'an 112:4)


Allaah created us people into boyz and gyalz, but Allaah is different and there is nothing like Allaah. So Allaah doesn't have to be male or female. But yeah, insha'Allaah if we do go jannah - then we will see how Allaah Almighty looks like.


Allaah Almighty knows best.



Peace.

[Kittygyal]

salam.

shukran Brother, but am still confused am sowiee if am asking too many questions but i don't get it will we see if Allah is a boy or a gyal or is he both?? :( also the things i have done wrong in my past wehn i was a christain do i get punished for them like when i used to drink, go into pub etc etc ?? :(

i really need to know this am really sowiee if i have said anything bad about Allah i don't mean to i just want to know thats all :cry:

w.salam

[- Qatada -]

wa alykum as-Salaam warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.


Sister, don't worry - please keep asking insha'Allaah.

‘Amr ibn Al-‘Aas narrates, “When Islam entered my heart, I went to the Messenger of Allah and said, ‘Give me your hand so that I may pledge allegiance to you.’ The Prophet spread his hand, but I withdrew mine. He said, ‘What is wrong ‘Amr?’ I said, ‘I want to make a condition.’ ‘And what is that?’ he said. I said, ‘That Allah will forgive me.’ Then the Messenger of Allah said, ‘Did you not know that Islam wipes out what came before it, and that Hijrah wipes out what came before it and that Hajj wipes out what came before it!” (Sahih Muslim).

So as long as you don't return back to the sins, insha'Allaah you won't get the sin for the things you did in the past.



The thing that you ask about Allaah, just think of it this way. First of all, Allaah is not male or female. But Allaah made people into boyz and gyalz, so being a boy or gyal is a human thing. It doesn't apply to Allaah, and we won't truely understand how Allaah looks like until we enter jannah insha'Allaah. So we shouldn't even think how Allaah looks like, because no matter how hard we try - we won't be able to do that.

So right now, just remember Allaah through His 99 names:

http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/99names.htm


We don't need to imagine how Allaah looks like yet, only in jannah we will find out insha'Allaah. So let's just stick to knowing about Allaah through His 99 names.


Is that ok?



Allaah Almighty knows best.

[Kittygyal]

wa alykum as-Salaam warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.


Sister, don't worry - please keep asking insha'Allaah.

‘Amr ibn Al-‘Aas narrates, “When Islam entered my heart, I went to the Messenger of Allah and said, ‘Give me your hand so that I may pledge allegiance to you.’ The Prophet spread his hand, but I withdrew mine. He said, ‘What is wrong ‘Amr?’ I said, ‘I want to make a condition.’ ‘And what is that?’ he said. I said, ‘That Allah will forgive me.’ Then the Messenger of Allah said, ‘Did you not know that Islam wipes out what came before it, and that Hijrah wipes out what came before it and that Hajj wipes out what came before it!” (Sahih Muslim).

So as long as you don't return back to the sins, insha'Allaah you won't get the sin for the things you did in the past.



The thing that you ask about Allaah, just think of it this way. First of all, Allaah is not male or female. But Allaah made people into boyz and gyalz, so being a boy or gyal is a human thing. It doesn't apply to Allaah, and we won't truely understand how Allaah looks like until we enter jannah insha'Allaah. So we shouldn't even think how Allaah looks like, because no matter how hard we try - we won't be able to do that.

So right now, just remember Allaah through His 99 names:

http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/99names.htm


We don't need to imagine how Allaah looks like yet, only in jannah we will find out insha'Allaah. So let's just stick to knowing about Allaah through His 99 names.


Is that ok?



Allaah Almighty knows best.

salam.
jazakallah brother for that

okay i need to get this right, when we die we will be questioned bu Allah but we will see him right??
so are we going to see him face to face? also will Allah ever sit around with us && talk to others about other things in life before he punishes us or do we just get punished straight way? :uhwhat also will i be still in a wheelchair once i die && be questioned?
w.salam

[chacha_jalebi]

we aint questioned by Allah (swt) sister, we are questioned by angels, dunno if Allah (swt) will sit & talk wit us lol, we are too low to sit with him,

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

We will be judged by Allah(swt). I thought we were going to be questioned by Allah..? The prosecutor will be ourselves. In other words are hands, feet, ears, eyes etc. will speak.

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


This is getting too confusing. chacha jalebi meant that the angels will question the people in the grave, but yeah - Allaah will judge and question on judgement day.


Regarding the other questions about the wheelchair etc. i think it's better if u ask a proper 'aalim (islamic scholar) or something. jazak Allaah khayr.



Allaah Almighty knows best.


Peace.

[The Ruler]

:sl...

ok les change de topic to........RAMADAN!!!! :happy:....yayyyy!!...so wt u guys plannin ta do n r u lukinj 4wrd ta it...y u lykin 4wrd to it n stuf lyk dat yh :D :D

:w:

[chacha_jalebi]

i lookin forward because inshallah wana do sum collectin of money :p and inshallah inshallah, get to lead taraweeh :D:D but part from dat ramadan, is jus wikid, like ebery1 jus makes the effort innit, lik every1 sits on d table 2geva :p in uni we all order food & stuff lol ders a feelin of togertheness and unity in ramadan mashallah :D:D:D:D

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:sl...

ok les change de topic to........RAMADAN!!!! :happy:....yayyyy!!...so wt u guys plannin ta do n r u lukinj 4wrd ta it...y u lykin 4wrd to it n stuf lyk dat yh :D :D

:w:

im lookin forward 2 it aswel, but lets make dua we live 2 c it.:cry:

:wasalamex

[The Ruler]

im lookin forward 2 it aswel, but lets make dua we live 2 c it.:cry:

ys tru...:hmm:

im lukin 4wrd to ramadan too...dis tym de days r a bit longa...but wid harship cums ease ryt :happy:....in ramadan altho its real hard in skul cuz wid evry1 eatin n evryfin but u can stil keep patient knoin dat Allah is der ta help u n forgiv u 4 de numerous sins uv dun in ur livs :) :)

:w:

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

ys tru...:hmm:

im lukin 4wrd to ramadan too...dis tym de days r a bit longa...but wid harship cums ease ryt :happy:....in ramadan altho its real hard in skul cuz wid evry1 eatin n evryfin but u can stil keep patient knoin dat Allah is der ta help u n forgiv u 4 de numerous sins uv dun in ur livs :) :)

:w:

yh... inshaAllah i wanna do alo more 'ibaadah this ramadan... im tryna prepare nw inshaAllah

u doin nethin differnt this ramadaN?

[The Ruler]

u doin nethin differnt this ramadaN?

im plannin on doin anoda khatam o de Qur'an dis ramadan insha'allah :) :)

:w:

[Kittygyal]

salam.
okay i will ask my alim whom teaches me arabic humm it's my 4th day! very hard but then again everything is hard at first!, oh Ramadhan humm i was looking forward for it but due to my medical condtion i can't fast :cry: as i know this is a very blessed month inshallah everyone please pray for me && the ummah inshallah maybe "your" prayers might be valid lets hope inshalalh
w.salam

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

yup inshahallah i will try to read a khatam in 30days.. cant wait 2 start tho :p

[Kittygyal]

salam.

what is khatam?

w.salam

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

wen u finish all the Quran. thats a katam

[Kittygyal]

wen u finish all the Quran. thats a katam

salam.
oo right.
w.salam

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex


I know yo all proli gna get angry cuz i knw wa u guyz are experiencin.. wen peeps say - this is bid'a and erytin lyk dat.. buh da scholarz say dat dis khatam ting iz a bid'ah.. so if i waz u - try to avoid it insha'Allaah.


Ruling on gathering to recite du’aa’ for completing the Qur’aan
http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref...eng&txt=khatam


Allaah Almighty knows best.

[chacha_jalebi]

salaaam

back by popular demand :p

now now the problem happens is when some one says they have to do a khatam dua @ the end of readin the Quran, like you can do dua @ anytime, anywer, but to have a special gatherin and so on, to do a dua for finish readin the Quran is yesh a bidah, because RasoolAllah (sall allah hu aley hi wasalam) neva did it :D:D:D erm brap brapp :D

any questions lol :p

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

im plannin on doin anoda khatam o de Qur'an dis ramadan insha'allah :) :)

:w:

Oh ryt... ystrdy i bought a book on ramadan by a'idh al qarni... mashaAllah it woz reli gud! Altho im thinkin of buyin a book on rulingz for ramadan... as that book explainz otha thingz.

:wasalamex

[Ameeratul Layl]

salam,

what does peeps mean?

wasalam

[------]

peeps = people

[Ameeratul Layl]

salam,

why not just say people?
Peeps reminds me of the little seeds in an apple.

wasalam

[------]

Nah dis thread iz hevi lyk fank gudnis i can speak ma lingo in ere lyk u gets meh

[------]

i say ppl for people

[Ameeratul Layl]

Nah dis thread iz hevi lyk fank gudnis i can speak ma lingo in ere lyk u gets meh

:sl:
:uhwhat ....I'm in the wrong thread.

I say ppl for people too. But I try not to make it a habit.

Enjoy the thread people. Moi don't belong here.

:w:

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Nah dis thread iz hevi lyk fank gudnis i can speak ma lingo in ere lyk u gets meh

Lol. Dis aint my lingo... bt since im here i myt aswel spek lyk dis.:happy:

Wot u wana chat bout sis?

:wasalamex

[DaNgErOuS MiNdS]

You'll all regret speaking in this slang lingo when you get mistakes in your coursework/exams just because your wrote something like 'rememba' it happens alot if your always typing like that on your keyboards and mobile phones...

ermm brayk da habbit!

[------]

dat khatam ting iz confusin me can sum1 lyk str8n it out plz

[------]

You'll all regret speaking in this slang lingo when you get mistakes in your coursework/exams just because your wrote something like 'rememba' it happens alot if your always typing like that on your keyboards and mobile phones...

ermm brayk da habbit!

Nah i alwayz distinguish ma lingo wid skul stuf u gets me lyk

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Nah i dnt chat lyk dis normally... u can c im rubbish at it...

[------]

Sis Umm Shaheed - dat khatam ting iz confusin me can sum1 lyk str8n it out plz

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

I think akhi fi sab sed it was bid'ah.... :?

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


check dis link insha'Allaah:

http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref...eng&txt=khatam


I'm na sayin anyfin.. bare peeps/ppl do it, n iss comon.. da thing dat i find confuzin is how peeps luv doin da bid'a thingz, buh wen derz smtin das a sunnah - dey cant be boverd doin dat.. :?


:wasalamex

[DaNgErOuS MiNdS]

i dNt thAt iz dAA CasE! I Juz FinK PeOpLe FiNk A SuNNaH Is a BiDAA N a BiDAA is A SuNNah anD JuSt FoLLOw What i mean 'WaT' ThE ElDeRs Say.

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex


yeh.. check dis link tho insha'Allaah:

Ruling on celebrating the middle of Sha’baan
http://islamqa.com/index.php?pg=arti...&article_id=41

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

Nah i dnt chat lyk dis normally... u can c im rubbish at it...

naaaaaaaah u aite sis.. u lernin innit :D ;)

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Akhi Fi Sabillillah, dat is so true. Wen u urge ppl 2 do the sunnah, they r usually like 'itz not lyk itz fardh'.... but dey r so intent on doin bid'ah, sumtin dat is a MISGUIDANCE n leadz 2 HELL.

May Allah guide us all, ameen.

N sis shefa, jazakAllah khayr.;)

:wasalamex

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

itz kool.. so sm1 gna open sum nex tpic yh?

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


OK, so hu'z lukin 4ward 2 ramadhan? And watz ery1z best bit abt it..?


:wasalamex

[Hijaabi22]

EaZy y'aLl wAt aPnIiIiIiIiIiIiInNNnNn bIn a lOnG Tym n dAt iNNiT, hOpE U Iz aL WeLl n gUd n DaT L8ErZ N DaT

LoL

[Hijaabi22]

:salamext:


OK, so hu'z lukin 4ward 2 ramadhan? And watz ery1z best bit abt it..?


:wasalamex

Me cAnT W8 n dAt maN BuT GnA Be HaRd n dAt MaN InIt Wat wId Em oPeNiN sO l8 N dAT bT Me kNoOoOoOwz iT AlL WoRtH It n dAt So CaNt W8 n DaT

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! ooooo cnt waittt.. itz gna b da bommmm man..!! da best bit is wen u sit around da table waitin 4 ya food 2 b served n every1z 2geva, its so nyc :D wat bout ya'll?

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


Yeh, iss gud cuz iss a feelin of unity.. lyk especiali wen u got da radio ramadhan on and dey hav dem nex level krazy advertz abt pizza n stuf.. dey make u laf - buh u feel hapi cuz u feel dat da muslimz r united fo once.. i dno, iss jus dat wen ery1z 2geda, wit family, and da muslimz - den u feel lyk u belong 2 a propa muslim ummah.


any1 els feel da same way?


:wasalamex

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

yh yhhh i getz u bro.. such a ncie feelin init, wen u preparn da iftaar n dat :D gona miss it wen it goes.. :( but it hasnt evn come yt, not long :D yay.. btw did any1 fast 2day 4 the shaberat fast ting? :rollseyes

[Masoc]

can some 1 tell me how to start my own thread
#

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

I thnk we shud all try n make dis ramadan difrent den de othaz by doin more 'ibaadah n worship den usual, coz hu knwz if we wil liv 2 c dis ramadan, let alone nxt yearz ramadan. We shud pray 2 Allah dat we c dis ramadan, n if we do, den we shud b grateful n make da most of it.

Interestin note... did u knw the battle of badr was in ramadan?:?

:wasalamex

[chacha_jalebi]

yesh :D sister you know in history, the muslims have never lost a battle in d month of ramadan :D:D:D i say that cals for a brap brap :p

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

how about a takbeer?

[chacha_jalebi]

:p yesh :D takbeer :D:D:D mashallah

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Allahu akbar!

K... hu woz at de talk at regents ystrdy?

MashaAllah, it woz sooooo gud! Dey raised alot of money 4 Lebanon. N sum ppl wer pledging thousandz of poundz.

[chacha_jalebi]

Allahu akbar!

K... hu woz at de talk at regents ystrdy?

MashaAllah, it woz sooooo gud! Dey raised alot of money 4 Lebanon. N sum ppl wer pledging thousandz of poundz.

:p mashallah & d cafe was givei free food :rollseyes but i wasnt der 4 dat reason :p :D:D:D:D

[- Qatada -]

Allaahu akbar.. gud stuff masha'Allaah.


:salamext:

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:p mashallah & d cafe was givei free food :rollseyes but i wasnt der 4 dat reason :p :D:D:D:D

Lol... yeh mashaAllah, the food woz gud.

Dat woz de 1st tym i saw Abduraheem Green, and Tawfeeq Chawdry speak. MashaAllah, der talks blew me away. I see Jalaal ibn Saeed speak all de tym tho, May Allah reward them. Bro Jalaal duz talkz in Cranford evry friday 7-10pm. Dey r very gud, mashaAllah!

But I felt so embarrassd dat sum of de sisterz wer chattin away. Dat is so disrespectful 2 the 'ilm dat dey wer sharin with us. Sum ppl wer even chattin whilst the quran was being recited, a'udhubillah.

SubhanAllah, it woz so uplifting tho in de end 2 c sistaz takin off der jewellery n puttin it in de collection box.... n sum sistaz pledging £5000. May Allah hav mercy on dem. All de sistaz around me emptied der wallets, mashaAllah.

:wasalamex

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Yeh, iss gud cuz iss a feelin of unity.. lyk especiali wen u got da radio ramadhan on and dey hav dem nex level krazy advertz abt pizza n stuf.. dey make u laf - buh u feel hapi cuz u feel dat da muslimz r united fo once.. i dno, iss jus dat wen ery1z 2geda, wit family, and da muslimz - den u feel lyk u belong 2 a propa muslim ummah.


any1 els feel da same way?

:sl:

Yhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! I wish dt muslimz wer lyk dat al d tym itz a gud fing in a way dat muslimz get 2geva n dat bt wen dey lyk take der scarves off str8 afta Ramadan its lyk :mad: n dey stp prayin n dat n its lyk dey fink dat Islam iz only 4 Ramadan i mean plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ppl get ur headz str8 n realize da TRU meaning of Islam!!!!

Jazakallah :shade:

:w:

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

:sl:

Yhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! I wish dt muslimz wer lyk dat al d tym itz a gud fing in a way dat muslimz get 2geva n dat bt wen dey lyk take der scarves off str8 afta Ramadan its lyk :mad: n dey stp prayin n dat n its lyk dey fink dat Islam iz only 4 Ramadan i mean plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ppl get ur headz str8 n realize da TRU meaning of Islam!!!!

Jazakallah :shade:

:w:

Yeh, I knw exactly wot u mean sis.... dey becum slavez 2 ramadan instead of slaves of Allah! But whilst der heartz r soft in ramadan, maybe we shud take advantage of it n try 2 giv dem more da'wah. Ppl tend 2 giv u da tym of day in ramadan.

N I think we shud all try n do fund raisers in ramadan, inshaAllah. Coz ppl r more generous, alhamdulillah. N we shud add as much money 2 it from our own pocketz aswel. Ud b surprized how much money u can raize in 1 day...

:wasalamex

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Ppl tend 2 giv u da tym of day in ramadan.

Yh bt ders no point wid da sistas in ma colij! der mashed up! da lot of dem! :rant: (Nt dat I'm sayn dat ne1s perfect)

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Yh bt ders no point wid da sistas in ma colij! der mashed up! da lot of dem! :rant: (Nt dat I'm sayn dat ne1s perfect)

Rememba the prophet (SAW) wrote lettaz 2 the rulerz of the landz around arabia... n invited dem 2 Islam. Sum of dem wer arrogant, but at da end of da day, it was the prophet's (SAW) responsibility 2 giv dem the message.


As it is ourz 2 giv the ppl around us da'wah. U knw we shud b givin our neighbours da'wah... n by neighbour, i mean 40 houses in each direction....:uuh:

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:salamext:


Yh, buh u knw - giv em da'wah wit a sincere intention in ramadhan cuz der mite be some barakah (blessing) dat Allaah azawajal mite place in yo da'wah which mite influence or transform the person.. atleast if dey doin abit in ramadhan, den u got mo of a chance insha'Allaah compared 2 if dey dnt do it at all..

Rememba dat weneva u giv da'wah, neva start off on a point dat u differ on.. buh sutin dat u agree wit. Lyk even if u got bare differences, try to find a similarity, so dat u can wrk yo way up from der insha'Allaahu ta'aala.



:wasalamex

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Aite ppl sum help in hw u giv dawah n dat i mean wt kinda topicz do u start on n hw dyou explain dem?

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Wel, if sum1 doesnt pray... u dnt say 2 dem, 'oi, why dnt u wear hijab', or 'why r u listenin 2 music', or for example.... if dey r drinking khamr u dnt say 'ukhti i saw u walkin in da masjid wit ur left foot....haram!'... coz der is obviously somethin wrng wit der iman.... u shud address da more important thingz first, n rememba 2 b gentle.:)

[Kittygyal]

salam

whats going on?

w.salam

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

we r just discussin da'wah sis.:)

[Kittygyal]

salam.
so wts dawah? is it when u pray for people? :confused:
w.salam

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

Da'wah is basically: Inviting people to Islam, whether by literal invitation and preaching, or by the example of good actions.

[Kittygyal]

salam.
okay jazakallah for that sis me gonna print it out inshallah
w.salam

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


It mos of da time dependz on da person init.. so lyk if u waz 2 go up2 a non muslim - u wud proli call dem 2 tawheed (the Oneness of Allaah) first.. buh da problem iz dat bare muslimz dno dat eitha.. da fing wit da muslimz iz dat most mite na be sincere in it at da beginin.. so u gota ask yoself - wa interested u abt islam first?

Wa will interest da person 2? wa type of person am i talkin 2? wil dey accept wa i say or wil dey jus igno wa i say? talk 2 dem equal 2 da level of faith dat dey got..


eg. if yo talkin 2 a person who want's 2 reli learn abt da deen, den u jus ask dem - dyu feel dat islam is da truth? and dey mite be confused and actuali want 2 knw why islam is da truth. So da bes way 2 show dem dat islam is da truth is 2 show dem tawheed [Oneness of Allaah] (the main thing abt islam):


1) There is one Allaah (God) - He created us so we would worship Him, and no-one else. Not jesus, or buddha, or some stone idol, or some government etc. But to worship and obey Him Almighty Alone.



2) He sends messengers to people to tell them to worship Him, and these messengers tell us how He wants us to worship Him. The people who accept these messengers, - Allaah will reward them wit jannah, buh those who disbelieve:

There is no compulsion in religion (Qur'an 2:256) But in the end - we will be brought back to Allaah, and Allaah will judge us on wa we did.. cuz obviously we created for a purpose, not just 2 earn all that wealth and die.



3) Mention the 99names of Allaah with translations, and ask the person if they feel confused about if any of them are true or not. Cuz naturally - it's in our fitrah to believe that Allaah is the Greatest, Most Forgiving, The King etc.



4) the people who believe and did good, they will be rewarded for submitting to Allaah, and those who disbelieved will be punished.

This is when u should try to show them the punishment of hellfire, and the rewards of jannah/paradise.

I keep mentioning this alot, but Aa'isha (may Allaah Almighty be pleased with her) said that if Allaah had revealed the verses of ordering people to give up their alcohol etc. at the beginning, no-one would listen. But instead, Allaah revealed the verses paradise and hell, and judgement day to attract the people to islam - this mainly happened in the Makkan Period.

Only in the Medinan Period did the verses abt banning of alcohol, hijaab etc. come down.


Therefore, explain the reality of jannah and hell, and judgement day at the beginning. And after that, help them gradually to wear the hijaab fulltime etc. Because you know that what influenced you the most in practising was that you realised the reality of jannah/paradise and hell, whereas the others may not have the same level of faith. So help them gain that firmer faith, and then after that - they will feel desperate to wear it, because they will realise that they are disobeying Allaah Almighty.


I'll carry this on later insha'Allaah.. but i feel that this is the most important part in calling people to islam.



Allaah Almighty knows best.



:wasalamex

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:salamext:


There's another group of people who proli wouldn't give you the time that you wanted for da'wah. These people are safe and kind, but they don't really want to follow islam whole heartedly.. They good people - but they think that later on, when i'm older - i'll follow islam then insha'Allaah.


For these people, i think you should try to liven islam up for them and you should be friendly and kind to them, just so that they have you as a closer friend. The Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him) did say that:

"A person is likely to follow the faith of his friend, so look whom you befriend."(Abu Dawood and at-Tirmidhee)





So for these types of people, you don't need to hang out with them all the time - but do it in a way where you can be kind to them, so they don't feel your a threat, but at the same time - you don't actually get influenced by what they say or do, but you do influence them in a way which will leave some thoughts in their head.


A good example of this is when you might see the person abit stressed, because they got too much coursework. So to make them feel abit better, or just to lighten things up - say, "ohh don't worry, it's that time of the year init, plus the Prophet (sal Allahu alayhi waSalam) said that:


"No fatigue, nor disease, nor sorrow, nor sadness, nor hurt, nor distress befalls a Muslim, even if it were the prick he receives from a thorn, but that Allah expiates some of his sins for that." (Sahih Bukhari)



This is just something small, but it kinda leaves an imprint in the persons mind because they realise the reasons why muslims do get a hard time in the world is because Allaah loves people, so He tests them and forgives their sins and greatens the muslims rewards in this life and the afterlife insha'Allaah. And the non muslim gets tested so he can look for help from a higher Power, who else can they turn to besides God, Allaah? So they go in search for looking for the truth. And whoever is sincere in searching for the truth and keeps an open heart, Allaah will guide them insha'Allaah.


So we know if a person was to follow the Qur'an and Sunnah in this life, they'd be rewarded and Allaah would give them an easier and blessed life in this world and the hereafter.



It's also good to mention exciting facts that might have happened to the companions (male or female) of the Messenger of Allaah (peace be upon him.) Because the people have role models to look upto, instead of just the media.


It's also good to show the Kindness and Mercy of Allaah, but do it in a way that they will love to come to Allaah, mention that Allaah forgives all sins to someone who might have sinned alot and if they feel guilty, but don't mention it to someone at this moment in time - if they are the type to go ahead and do more sins because of the Mercy of Allaah.

Urge these kind of people to think more about death, and that there are loads of people in history, and even nowadays who feel they will live forever, but they die in the worst state - like elvis when he died on the toilet or tupac when he got shot etc. And whatever state we die in, we will be raised like that on the day of judgement.



Tell them that if they do good to please Allaah, so if a sister covers herself to please Allaah, Allaah will bless her with more beauty insha'Allaah. And if a brother trains for the sake of pleasing Allaah, Allaah will strenghthen him more, as long as they keep their duty to Him Almighty.



Allaah Almighty knows best, and if you confused about anything i said - or need more info. please ask insha'Allaah. jazak Allaahu khayr.



:wasalamex

[Hijaabi22]

yo yo yo ppz jus dropped by 2 say HIIIIIIII n dat , yeah n ramadhaan jus round d corner guyz omg tym flies, well lemme b da 1st 2 wish u all RAMADHAAN MUBARAK!! Me aint on here much so probs wont get the chance l8a on, have a WICKED ramdhaan, make d most of it, pray 4 moi :okay: and may Allah(Swt) rward u all 4 ya efforts Ameen!

:okay:

L8ErZ!

[Kittygyal]

salam.
how long is there for Ramadhan?
w.salam

[Hijaabi22]

cuppla wkz!

[Kittygyal]

salam.
okay, well me won't be fasting due to medical problems but everyone please for moi && th ummah inshallah.
w.salam

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but everyone please for moi && th ummah inshallah

[S]Come again?[/S]

[Kittygyal]

[S]Come again?[/S]

salam.
waht you mean "come again"?
w.salam

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Lol i ment i dnt get wot u sed lolz

[Kittygyal]

salam.
i said i will NOT be fasting due to medical conditions so everyone pray for me && the ummah!! do u understand NOW?
w.salam

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Yep :D Soz ma brainz a bit mashd. Sfe i wil pray 4 ya Insha'Allah

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

salam.
i said i will NOT be fasting due to medical conditions so everyone pray for me && the ummah!! do u understand NOW?
w.salam

:salamext:

Sis, mayB u can luk at da articles on dis page?:)

Fast of those who are exempted

:wasalamex

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Asslamu Alaikum

Yh gud link sis deffo worth chekin out

Ryt am off bak l8er Insha'Allah

Wa Alaykum Salam

[Kittygyal]

:salamext:

Sis, mayB u can luk at da articles on dis page?:)

Fast of those who are exempted

:wasalamex

salam.
Jazkallah for that but i can't me have been to a sheik nearby aswel so NOPE next time inshallah. :cry:
w.salam

[H4RUN]

:sl:
officialy bak n runin tinz wiv d chacha lolll, wow 27 pages, i wuda thought this thread b closed, locked, keys thrown away a loong tym ago, get in people!
:w:
chacha u doin d slangsters proud lol [always happy 2 invent a new word]
*oopsy, apologies 4 the erm new word, edited now :p loll*

[Ashley]

:sl:
officialy bak n runin tinz wiv d chacha lolll, wow 27 pages, i wuda thought this thread b closed, locked, keys thrown away a loong tym ago, get in people!
:w:
chacha u doin d slangsters proud lol [always happy 2 invent a new word]
*oopsy, apologies 4 the erm new word, edited now :p loll*

wah u gys do ere anwz i min cht bowt

[H4RUN]

:sl:
wel select a topic n den we c wr it goes from der eh....
:w:

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:sl:

Ryt so dis is da problem.. ppl jst dnt take ne notice wen u tel dem dat music is haraam! I mean wt sorta strategy wud u take to approach dem wen dey r lisnin 2 music?? A lil help plz LI?

:w:

[Hijaabi22]

lol no comment^^^

[Curaezipirid]

alaikumassalm this thread bugs me because I have a sneaking suspicion that persons familiar with Arabic who use the internet alot find themselves better able to make precise expressions in these short hand lingo means as the internet slang, but I am so structural, and that I practise presenting my expression in the most explicitly precise means possible, which is amounting to formal standard Australian English. bleh! I did try at the start of using Islamic internet forums to express myself in Aboriginal dialects of English since such are closer to Arabic as I hear. But everybody only observed me as failing in standardised English expressions, so, at that, she'll be right mate, I guess. I should find a thread to make a passage about music in since I approached the computer this evening with intent on that score. mu'asalam

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LOL erm....so...ne help plz?!?!

[The Ruler]

:sl:

if u wanna aproach sum1 hu lisens ta music n tel em dat it ent allowd dnt jus go str8 ta em n tel em its haram u gotta make em undastand first innit :?...gotta tel em wts ryt wts rong....but tk it s..l..o..w...:D :D

:w:

[H4RUN]

:sl:
well were daffs not used when the Prophet pbuh came to Madinah? i ent gota hadith here to back me up lol if i find i shal post....he was welcomed with blessins and salutations...ie. nasheed
:w:

[chacha_jalebi]

RasoolAllah (saw) has permitted the duff in many hadiths :D .. bukhari, muslim :D

and i aint got a source that he was welcomed to madinah by the duf either, erm but watch the message film :p lol its in der :D:D:D

brap brap :D:D

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:
slang... ok..

aite ya c dat ma bredrinz/shaista's we gotza keep it 'slamic ya gets me, coz like its all bout jannah blad, so murk dem kuffar who try chattin breeze wid us....

LOL IM OUTTA DIS :p

:wasalamex


PS: fi-sabs a joka :D

[Curaezipirid]

not all da muzik is haram ya know...........

YES I KNOW

THAT IS WHY I AM UPSET

BECAUSE THE AMERICAN MUSIC INDUSTRY IS PROFITING FROM BLAMING THE MUSLIMS WHO ARE NOT SINGING THE SONGS OF LAND IN SAUDI ARABIA

AND ALSO AT THE EXPENSE OF THE AUSTRALIA SONGS SINCE HERE NO MUSICIANS GET ANY COMMERICAL OPPORTUNITIES UNLESS THEY ACCEPT BEING RAPED BY NAZIS

SO WE ALL HAVE TO LISTEN TO AMERICANS TUNES AND LOVE AMERICA BUT MY HOME IS IN AUSTRALIA AND WE HAVE TRUE SONGS TO THAT SING TRUE TO QUR'AN

I WROTE ABOUT HOW I FOUND OUT INTO A POEM BUT ONLY PEOPLE WHO READ IT ARE THOSE WHO WANT TO ACCUSE ME FOR WRITING IT

AND I CAN'T EVEN GET THE LINGO

mu'asalam

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:

ya ghetto lil ghundaz (ghundaz = gansta's in bengali) musik iz haram n iv put da proof 4 dat riite here:

http://www.islamicboard.com/basics-i...ur+imams+music

who still wants to chat breeze afta dat eh ;D

:wasalamex

[The Ruler]

wt the..........?!?!? Ppl dnt lisn 2 u! they jst start swearin at ya or sumfin!

wts so wt da abt it sis :? :?....neways if dey swear das der probs...let em swear...lol a kno it myt b hard ta tk it in but at tyms u gotta...de prophet (saw) facd mor hardship dan dat but he (saw) neva stopd tryin :) :)

:w:

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:salamext:


Sista Aalimah, lyk i sed b4 - i fink iss mo important dat u call em 2 da real islam 1st.. lyk to da tawheed n dat. Try to giv em advice, n sho 2 em dat islam reli iz da ryt path.

Afta u get past dis stage, den telin dem dat muzik is haraam wil hav an efect on em insha'Allaah.. cuz without dem knowin dat islam iz da truth - wa dyu think's gna stop dem from folowin ordaz? dey proli wil turn der bak 2wardz it mo init? cuz dey wna hav dat freedom lyk da otha peepz. So if dey know da reality of jannah, n da punishment of hell - den naturali wit time dey'l bak off insha'Allaah.


Jus keep rememberin - Makkah stage, den Medinah stage..


Allaah Almighty knows best.

[Curaezipirid]

alaikumassalam

am reckoning upon putting in some hard yards of ahadith research to dig up the full set of coinciding words from the Prophet, Peace go with Him always; but can recall a story that he played a musical instrument at a wedding close to pronouncing the word about music;

my own understanding is that song must belong to both immediate location and Soul and then it is Halal

and that is why the American Music industry is counting itself against Muslims who are not singing the songs of the geography of Mecca

however, there is some obvious evidencing of this that folk will need

wasaalam

[Inshallah]

dare is no doubht in mah mindd dat muzik is haram but a claim like "all muzik is haram" is ludacris.

Singing that is associated by the duff has been agreed upon many scholars to be halal well at least on the day of eid. In the hadith that abu bakr (raa) was forbidding singing with the duff and the prophet (pbuh) allowed it. This maybe not allowed in every occasion but has been on eid and therefore not all music is haram.

Muzik for halal islamic educational purposes for children, some of them learn this way. What if the child is blind and can't see???? As long as allah knows what's in your heart.

Sista Aalimah maybe a little confused at what i'm tryna say but yeah i hope ya got the point. No hard feelingz :)

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex


He askd 2 be banned on request man.. he didn't wna stay...


:salamext:

[H4RUN]

:sl:
ah okies, erm unusual but ok. long live the :D:D:D:D lol , i shall carry this flag forward then lol :D:D:D:D
:w:
erm brapp brapp :D:D:p

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex


tlk abt jannah insha'Allaah..



:salamext:

[IbnAbdulHakim]

"Jannatun tajriy min tahtihaal anhar"

^ That line comes up so many times in da quran n weneva it cums up i jus get pure happy lol, its like :D :D :D !!!! TAKE ME TO THEM TAJRIY's!!!!!

inshaAllah we'll all get there one day ;)

[H4RUN]

:sl:
we going to have soooooooo mush tym der inshAllah....i mean c'mon if u lyk stop and look at your wifey 4 years, and i mean years, we defo going to have baaaare time, eternal...
:D:D
:w:

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:sl:
we going to have soooooooo mush tym der inshAllah....i mean c'mon if u lyk stop and look at your wifey 4 years, and i mean years, we defo going to have baaaare time, eternal...
:D:D
:w:

lol wat a waste of time, :p :p (JK!!!!) sure we cud do that, but i'd rather giv rasullulah saws a hug for 1 million years, and weneva he tries move away i'll say

"Ya Rasullulah, we hav plenty of time, jus another 5000 years please "

lol ^ That'll carry on for a million years, i hope rasullulah saws dont mind me doin that ;D ;D

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


if we get der insha'Allah.. i wna wage war agains u guyz with the prophets and shuhadaah on ma side :p insha'Allaah.. :)



:wasalamex

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:


if we get der insha'Allah.. i wna wage war agains u guyz with the prophets and shuhadaah on ma side :p insha'Allaah.. :)



:wasalamex

:salamext:

lol fine i get all the hoors on my side HAHAHA :p ;D

everyones jus gnna stare at the hoors and i'll be slicin n dicin away ;D ;D

:wasalamex

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext::

hey fi-sab, u wudnt b attackin a hoori now wud ya, :p hahaha ;D

[- Qatada -]

:wasalamex


lol, lets leev dat stuf fo anotha place or time.. na ryt 2 talk abt hoori'z in a mixed forum lol cuz peeps can get caried away. [i waz gna say 'maried away' lol subhan Allaah] erm.. buh we jus gota keep strivin until we die as muslims insha'Allaah.. cuz we na promisd jannah.. onli da onez hu die in da state of islam.

"O ye who believe! Fear Allaah as He should be feared, and die not except in a state of Islam." (Quran 3:102).

let's discus dis dunya and it's relationship wit da aftalife.. so wa u wud wna do to gain jannah, wa are yo aimz? if u can buy a sik motor - wud u buy it, or wud u use dat money 2 help da needy, and buy a cheapa car instead?

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:

the other day i had a debate wiv sum bro's bout ownin a car. im like car insurance is haram right? but they said "its a necessasity of life coz u dont want ur parents walkin around in busses etc etc".

BUT is public transport really so bad that it makes car insurance halal? thats the main question here to be honest !!!!!

:wasalamex

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:

However, it has been mentioned to me that in some countries people are forced to take out insurance policies. So what can Muslims do if this is the situation? In my opinion, he should pay whatever money that he is forced to pay for insurance but he should not consider that it is a legal contract or agreement, but rather that it is money paid unjustly under pressure. If no loss occurs, this is by the Grace and Mercy of Allaah towards him and the money has been taken from him unjustly and he shall find it on the Day of Resurrection. In the event that he suffers some loss to his property and the insurance company intends to reimburse him, then, if the amount he is due back is equal to what he paid for his policy, he can justly take it. If, on the other hand, what he is due from the insurance company is more than he paid, he should not take more than the amount that he paid them. In this way, the process will, in my opinion, be in accordance with Islaamic law.

Insurance Policies
http://www.islamicboard.com/islamic-...tml?=insurance



Read all of it insha'Allaah ^^ :)

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:

sheikh uthaymeen is a great scholar mashAllah but i still cant be convinced... i wish there was some convincin hadith or ayyat or somthin, 2 or 3 fatwa's of the same opinion wud do the job, im gnna go raid islamqa :D

:wasalamex

[IbnAbdulHakim]

http://www.islamqa.com/index.php?ref...ar%20insurance

Praise be to Allaah.

After discussing this question with Shaykh Muhammad Al-Saalih Al-‘Uthaymeen, we came up with the following:

What we understand from the question is that the amount of money paid for the insurance is related to the value of the car, i.e. what the car is worth when the insurance is taken out. What this person is planning to do is a kind of lying, but it is done for the purpose of reducing the unfairness to which he is being subjected, namely being compelled to take out Haraam insurance. If there is no harm caused to him or to the reputation of the Muslims by his doing this, then there is no sin on him if he does that because he is forced to. And Allaah knows best.

:eek: but its still only uthaymeen, didnt anyone else comment on this issue apart from sheikh uthaymeen :?

:salamext:
PS: Still searching :)

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:sl: duno much bout car insurance lol so i'll stay outta dis discussion sfe respect :w:

[Inshallah]

:sl: duno much bout car insurance lol so i'll stay outta dis discussion sfe respect :w:

It would be smart tah stay outta the rest of dem 2 :rollseyes

[H4RUN]

:sl:
insurance insurance insurance, if we didnt hav 2 pay 4 it this would b a betta place :p
But 4 those o u hu say it's na ryt, luk at it this way....
u musta heard the story bout the man hu out all his trust in Allah swt....in a desert with his camel loaded with food....When his time to sleep n rest came he dint tie the camel..why? cos he had total trust in Allah swt dat nufin wud hapen 2 it nor d food......
to his shok wen he woke Up d camel was no where 2 b seen..........after going all over the place, left ryt n centa he still dint find it nor his food...his serchin 2 no avail....he had kinda given up, n nw waited 4 deth, and sincere duas were sed at this point.....he fell asleep [i fink]...wen he woke up/lookd behind...to his surprise the camel was there...SubhanAllah.....with all the food in tact....
So altho the latter part of that aint 2 relevant to insurance nowadays.. it jus goes to show dat even if u do things wiv total trust in Allah swt u stil lhave 2 take d appropriate measures n actions 2 prevent things from hapnin...
Hence one of d reasons dat peeps dun get insured apart from d chavs :p is cos lyk dey hav trust dat nufin wud happen 2 em....u jus neva know....so in dat sense insursance all kewl...well not so kewl if ur gna b 17 n lukin 2 insure a 1.6 :p:D
Dno if it made sense lol never realy dus but erm erm wel yeh der u av it, so, AV IT ! lol ;D
:w:

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:

LOL AAAAV IT SON!!!! :p

naa but for real tho, insurance/mortgage all dat funny business is jus dodgy, man KHALIFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

:wasalamex

[The Ruler]

:sl:

yh now das a gud topic...de 'khalifas' altho we 'discussd' *cough*brochacha*cough* a lil bit b4...so how abt Ali (ra) outta dem 4 i kno abt im de least...^o)

:w:

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:sl:

yh now das a gud topic...de 'khalifas' altho we 'discussd' *cough*broha4un*cough* a lil bit b4...so how abt Ali (ra) outta dem 4 i kno abt im de least...^o)

:w:

:salamext:

same here :? , i kno seerat of Umar RA/Abu Bakr RA but i dunno much bout uthman RA or Ali RA or even Umar ibn Abd'al-Azeez...

btw me shoutin khalifa was due to the need for khalifa. man khalifa is said to be sunnah muakkada by some scholars but by scholars such as Ibn Taymiyyah with excellent reasoning he explain why its fard !! And according to rasullulah saws khalifat can only be among quraish so its gtta b sum dude in saudi im guessin... i feel like goin over there and startin something !!!

:wasalamex

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:

Ali (radhiAllaahu anhu)
http://www.islamicboard.com/biograph...th-caliph.html


Umar bin Abdul Aziz (ra)
http://www.islamicboard.com/biograph...ght=abdul+aziz

[The Ruler]

:salamext:

same here :? , i kno seerat of Umar RA/Abu Bakr RA but i dunno much bout uthman RA or Ali RA or even Umar ibn Abd'al-Azeez...

btw me shoutin khalifa was due to the need for khalifa. man khalifa is said to be sunnah muakkada by some scholars but by scholars such as Ibn Taymiyyah with excellent reasoning he explain why its fard !! And according to rasullulah saws khalifat can only be among quraish so its gtta b sum dude in saudi im guessin... i feel like goin over there and startin something !!!

:wasalamex

oh rytyyy oopsy daisy ma bad :D:D:D...4giv moi...ok so Ali (ra) can ne 1 tel me how he died, wer he died n when he died :?....a kno ur lyk wt?!? death b4 knowin abt is lyf n birth...but das wt im confused abt not is birth or lyf story :)

:w:

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Bro Fi_Sab u rock! Kasme ur always der wid everythin @ ur fingertips! Masha'Allah!

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:

I aint sure bout Ali's RA death but if i eva find out i'll b sure to let u kno inshaAllah.


I jus dont get this dunya n the way its workin these days, if Quraish are the only ones dat can b khalifa then why aint saudi sortin nethin out? i mean the sahaba actually postponed the burial of Rasullulah saws to appoint a khalifa... man wats up wiv this dunya !!!!!!!!!!!!

:wasalamex

PS: fi-sab wanted to giv reps but :anger: system!!! lol

[------]

man wats up wiv this dunya !!!!!!!!!!!!

Its mashed? Neway az a hadith sayz, dis dunya iz a prison 4 the believers, n death iz a gift 4 d believer.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Its mashed? Neway az a hadith sayz, dis dunya iz a prion 4 the believers, n death iz a gift 4 d believer.

i heard of da prizon ting but the death bein a gift dats kinda new, where'd ya get dat from :eek: but it makes sence mashALlah coz its kinda bait that all da mu'mins would wanna b wiv ALlah swt n see da messenger saws :).


dis dunya is mashed but i tink most people are jus waitin 4 Mahdi to come sort everythn out, laziness !!!!

[Curaezipirid]

I bin too,
to tooedy tooed.
d only aussies who pickin up d need got black magic coming out der farts
an who been tooeding me day reckon are heros
dem dum dums whose never telling them selfs apart from di devil
wes need Jihad but they all want to kill me first and then they'll never
moods is now

[Curaezipirid]

wats a feeling of no expression able?
ambivalence plus consternation?
spleen exploding

[------]

ryt lol didnt get dat care 2 expand in slang :D

[Hijaabi22]

Yo Peeps Wat Apninnnnnnnnn

[The Ruler]

Yo Peeps Wat Apninnnnnnnnn

]

wer "discussin" abt de khalifas :)...join in :D:D

:w:

[Hijaabi22]

o ok cool :shade:

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

:D....lol =P :O ;) haha..im high....naturally!! lool

[Hijaabi22]

eh? u ok der sis? lol

can sum1 taaaaaaaaaaaalkkkkkkkkkk dis thread is dead!

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

LOL no im not!!! im so darn hypaaazzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!! im freakin maself out son...!! aiyaaa. les talk neaaahh meaaan! =D haha

[Hijaabi22]

paagal kurri kya baat hai? lol u trnin into me! man me luvin dis new nasheed by nazeel azami its PHATTTTTTTTTTTT!!

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

LOL...main theek houn!! lagta kuch kaya hai...=D
i have my crazi moments. Yea the nasheed is sick! =D :D:D:D:D

[Hijaabi22]

lol

am cool calm n collected today..... :shade:... no pagal me today lol

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

lol...i myself am not hypa but like in my head I am. So when i take it out on the forums i go nutz lolzzz.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:salamext:

dis dunya's jus fake man, der gnna cum a day wen we all 6 feet beneath da dirt but b4 dat comes letz jus tink bout wat we can do to ensure da comfort.

SAHIH BUKHARI

Volume 5, Book 57, Number 37:
Narrated Anas:

A man asked the Prophet about the Hour (i.e. Day of Judgment) saying, "When will the Hour be?" The Prophet said, "What have you prepared for it?" The man said, "Nothing, except that I love Allah and His Apostle." The Prophet said, "You will be with those whom you love." We had never been so glad as we were on hearing that saying of the Prophet (i.e., "You will be with those whom you love.") Therefore, I love the Prophet, Abu Bakr and 'Umar, and I hope that I will be with them because of my love for them though my deeds are not similar to theirs.

hope 2 c u all in jannah inshaAllah, keep it 'slamic :)

:wasalamex

[BlissfullyJaded]

:sl:

lolz, i cn't believe slang is a misc lang of itz own. :uuh:

[Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн]

lol i know right =D

[Curaezipirid]

dis 4 da peeps who lk 2 kno:

whatdis diff btwen:
White Trash Princess Complex
and
Aussie Mussie Gubborigine as a social category?

Ans by remember (ider/or is almo al both or nider an finer widou any crim'er)

Da Diff id ider: the Japanese economy's grip upon Muslim comprehension
or: the same diff as bwten an exorcist set up as though no culture so that profits can be made upn
or: Interest!

All tre reconciling ready bu lrng der are pple poped spposed dat in Isla day R counting never beliv nd to choos true d hr only solong nvr kno d teaching of Jannah from up der in de 7th ski psssing dwn Classically yet not Arabically!

2 da toyouN of "kss n Angel gd mrning" He got ta brng da right grl hm
wht/blk mx up btwn face and (cu t) nd mnd b4 too many lttlzzyblk kfr dmn

economy world
seeds of $ of Islam
sprout when for forward motion
is causing reducing quantity realisable now
therefore 70 time 7
is all

s'lng peeps

[------]

I dint get a wrd of dat lolz

[The Ruler]

dis 4 da peeps who lk 2 kno:

whatdis diff btwen:
White Trash Princess Complex
and
Aussie Mussie Gubborigine as a social category?

Ans by remember (ider/or is almo al both or nider an finer widou any crim'er)

Da Diff id ider: the Japanese economy's grip upon Muslim comprehension
or: the same diff as bwten an exorcist set up as though no culture so that profits can be made upn
or: Interest!

All tre reconciling ready bu lrng der are pple poped spposed dat in Isla day R counting never beliv nd to choos true d hr only solong nvr kno d teaching of Jannah from up der in de 7th ski psssing dwn Classically yet not Arabically!

2 da toyouN of "kss n Angel gd mrning" He got ta brng da right grl hm
wht/blk mx up btwn face and (cu t) nd mnd b4 too many lttlzzyblk kfr dmn

economy world
seeds of $ of Islam
sprout when for forward motion
is causing reducing quantity realisable now
therefore 70 time 7
is all

s'lng peeps

:sl:

dat english or chinese :? :?

am sure it ent slang...so wt is it :? :?

:w:

[Sum-Muslim-Gal]

yeh its slang sis

[The Ruler]

yeh its slang sis

:sl:

huh wt u on abt sis :? :?

:D ^ dat wasnt a rude question...a frendly 1 :happy:

:w:

[Sum-Muslim-Gal]

ok hhmmmh aaah wrong post lol....

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

say da whaaa :rollseyes

[H4RUN]

:sl:
'da whaaa' :p
aryt aryt hold it ryyyyt der! 1st of all, erm keep d chit chat a minimum inshAllah :) n erm i fink sis Curaezipirid deservs a thread of her own, 'nex level slang slingo, pro's only' :p

InshAllah breda hope 2 c ya in Jannah....altho gna be a mission cos lyk ur territory, ur land in other words is MASSSSIVE!!! takes yeeeaaars just to see all that u own in Jannah! subhanAllah! We jus gotta make sure we get in 1st eh InshAllah! niyah niyah niyah! beginin of sumin we shud chek our niyah, in midle we shud chek ar niyah, n at d end we shud chek ar niyah ,inshAllah....
FiamanAllah
:w:

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

im a pro at dis :D

okii.. nex topic?

[Curaezipirid]

it is that I not kno slang but can any peeps decipher is my nee

[------]

lol cum agen man i didnt get dat

[IbnAbdulHakim]

it is that I not kno slang but can any peeps decipher is my nee

i'll take a go at this:


its not dat i dunno dis slang rite 'ere but if ne1 tries crack it dey gettin my knee (kick) ;D


...meh :heated:

[Ubaidah]

Jus won sai I be wun pizost awau frum dat big #50.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Jus won sai I be wun pizost awau frum dat big #50.

lol gud 4 u moit, btw where'd dat slang come from, where u from?

[The Ruler]

:sl:

so ermmm....shud we tlk abt jannah :?...i dunno das de 1st topic dat came to me :hmm:

:w:

[Kittygyal]

salam.
hows everyone?? && what is the topic on?? fill me up guys
w,salam

[The Ruler]

salam.
hows everyone?? && what is the topic on?? fill me up guys
w,salam

wer al fyn alhamd sis :)...i jus sed dat we tlk abt jannah...how abtz dat :D :D

:w:

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

yayyyyyyy.. any questions on jannah anyone?

[Kittygyal]

wer al fyn alhamd sis :)...i jus sed dat we tlk abt jannah...how abtz dat :D :D

:w:

salam.
safe, aright lets talk about Janah then question:playing:
w/salam

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:sl:

so ermmm....shud we tlk abt jannah :?...i dunno das de 1st topic dat came to me :hmm:

:w:

did u kno that there are a hundred levels of jannah for the shaheed?! ALLAHU AKBAR ! Did u know that the throne of Allah will be just above the prophets abode in jannah? Allahu Akbar ! Did you know that those who take an orphan and look after him well and raise him/her will have there place next to Rasullulah saws in jannah? Allahu Akbar !!

SAHIH BUKHARI

Volume 7, Book 63, Number 224:
Narrated Sahl:

Allah's Apostle said, "I and the one who looks after an orphan will be like this in Paradise," showing his middle and index fingers and separating them.

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

wow mashallah. wkd info.. ddnt kno dt bro jazakallah khair.. btw jz a random qu. buh do martyers get questioned on da day of judgement?

[IbnAbdulHakim]

martyrs are one o da rare few exceptions who are free from the fear and tension and dread of judgement day !!

as u kno martyrs reside in the hearts of green beards (LOL i mean birds) flying around in jannah till judgement day, den dey get der place in jannah :D !


theres two that i know of who are free from da fears o judgement day:

those who had the fear of judgement day in this dunya, and those who are martyred fi-sabillilah.

source: talks by awlaki :D

:salamext:

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:


I luv dis verse! :D

And whoso obeys Allah and the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), then they will be in the company of those on whom Allah has bestowed His Grace, of the Prophets, the Siddiqun (those followers of the Prophets who were first and foremost to believe in them, like Abu Bakr As­Siddiq رضى ), the martyrs, and the righteous. And how excellent these companions are!

(Qur'an Surah Nisa [4]: 69)

:wasalamex

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Edit

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

i want 2.. inshahallah 1 day i will :D

[IbnAbdulHakim]

i want 2.. inshahallah 1 day i will :D

lol i edited my post sis, coz i felt slight riyaa'

naudhubillah, the shaytaan n his trickery !!!!

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

lol kk sfe..

oki cn i chnge da topic :D oki i am anyways, so whos looking 4wrd 2 ramadan? any1 gna b leadn da taraweeh?

[IbnAbdulHakim]

dont u hav to hav a certain level of iman and knowledge of Quran to lead people in salaah? hmm... bro fi-sab iz der like any special ruling to leadn teraweeh :? :?

[Curaezipirid]

wat is taraweeh also spelt teraweeh? i fink am needn to get mself educated

sumtimes sm sorta tellin it like it is in English too far
but am only listenin to Qur'an in Arabic
translations all frustrations

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

dont u hav to hav a certain level of iman and knowledge of Quran to lead people in salaah? hmm... bro fi-sab iz der like any special ruling to leadn teraweeh :? :?

Iv herd dat da salah is not acceptd if da person leadin is jaahil.

Allah knows best.

:wasalamex

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:

Who has the most right to lead the prayers?

Question:

I have a question regarding arrogance and becoming an imam.
In my community there are a few Muslims that always assume that they are the "most noble and learned" of the Muslims in the community and always assume the imam position in prayer, and never request that another brother go ahead. In fact, before the iqamah is recited these Muslims are already at the imam's mu-salla. The never request another brother to become imam, and one of them even said "there is no one here more qualified than myself." I do not know the exact reason why some of these Muslims feel that they are the most qualified, but I think it is because they feel that they are the oldest among the jama'ah or longest living in the community or even that they are of a particular nationality or dress.

I also know that there are some brothers who have alhamdulillah memorized much of the Qur'aan but they never want to become imam because they do not want to be associated or in competition with the arragant ones.
Please forgive me for this somewhat long message, but is it permissible or even preferred for these Muslims who may be learned to deny becoming the imam because of perhaps humility? Are these two situations (the assuming of becoming imam and the denying of it) two extremes that Allaah may be displeased with? If so, what should the people in the jama'ah do in this situation?


Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Many saheeh ahaadeeth have been narrated which explain to the Muslims who is most qualified and has the most right to lead the prayers. One of these ahaadeeth is that which was narrated from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him), who said that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“If there are three people, let one of them lead the others in prayer, and the one who has the most right to lead them is the one who knows more Qur’aan.” (Narrated by Muslim, no. 1077).


The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:

“The people should be led in prayer by the one who has most knowledge of the Qur’aan and has been reciting it for longer. If they are equal in their knowledge and reading of the Qur’aan, then they should be led by the one who made hijrah first. If they are equal with regard to hijrah, then they should be led by the one who is older…” (Narrated by Muslim, 1079).


To sum up what is indicated by these ahaadeeth, the one who has the most right to lead the others in prayer is: the one who has most knowledge of the Book of Allaah and of the fiqh of salaah.

Those who knew more of the Book of Allaah were appointed to lead the prayers at the time of the Sahaabah, because they had learned the correct way of reciting the aayat and they had learned the knowledge contained therein and the deeds prescribed by the Qur’aan. So they combined knowledge and action [they acted upon what they had learned], and did not stop at merely memorizing as is the case nowadays. How many people learn all or part of the Qur’aan, take care to recite it properly and with a beautiful voice, but they do not know anything about the fiqh of salaah.


If they are equal with regard to knowledge of the Qur’aan, then the one who knows more about the Sunnah should lead the prayer. If they are equal with regard to knowledge of the Sunnah, then the one who made hijrah first should lead the prayer. If they are equal with regard to hijrah, or if this does not apply, then the one who is older should lead the prayer, as is indicated in the hadeeth of Maalik ibn al-Huwayrith, who said:

We came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and we were young people, close in age. We stayed with him for twenty days, and the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was kind to us. When he thought that we were missing our families, he asked us about those whom we had left behind, and we told him. He said, “Go back to your families and stay with them. Teach them and instruct them” – and he said some things I remembered and some that I forgot. “And pray as you have seen me praying. When the time for prayer comes, let one of you call the Adhaan and let the oldest among you lead the prayer.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 6705). If they are equal with regard to recitation of the Qur’aan, knowledge and hijrah, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded that the eldest of them should be appointed to lead the prayer. If they are equal in age, then the one who is most righteous (has most taqwaa) should be appointed, because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, the most honourable of you with Allaah is that (believer) who has al-Taqwaa (is one of the pious)…” [al-Hujuraat 49:13]. If they are equal in all regards, then they should draw lots, if there is a dispute.

Having a PhD or having lived the longest in the land of the kuffaar does not qualify a person to lead the prayers. The one who has memorized more Qur’aan and has more knowledge of the fiqh of salaah is the one who should be appointed. It is not right for Muslims to dispute over the leadership of the prayers on the basis of their personal whims and desires. They should appoint the person who is described by sharee’ah as being qualified to lead the prayers. We ask Allaah to reform the Muslims.



Islam Q&A

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

source: http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...=lead%20salaah


Also read:

Does there have to be one imaam and does he have to be the khateeb?
http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?re...=lead%20salaah

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

jzakallah khair 4 dah bro.. itz wz useful :D

[Curaezipirid]

eee i reckon i wodn want to be prayr leader: so lng as it aint a mobile fon am happi

[The Ruler]

:sl:

y has dis thred ben dead 2day :?...cmon peepz ya kno wt ta discuss...or aleas brainstorm ur ideas...fink dat ur in skul PSHE lesson teacha askin ya ta brainstorm ideas ta discuss...cmon :D :D

:w:

[IbnAbdulHakim]

Brain storm

wat hav i been thinkin recently:

last of the dunya is arrived.
its just as though the sun is about to set when compared to the time thats already passed.
Mahdi appears to be comin soon enough
must prepare for g-had fi-sabillilah.
must fight nafs
must get ready
iss time... iss time that the whole west starts attacking the muslims....

[Hijaabi22]

dude u scarin moi man^^^^ :cry:

[IbnAbdulHakim]

dude u scarin moi man^^^^ :cry:

ittakullah man, nothin 2 fear but Allah, we all gtta get prepared in my honest opinion. who knows what tomorrow will bring... only Allah knows...

[Curaezipirid]

well now i aint even gunna try peep type lingo but just whatever pops out:

today there was my mind in the mode of it is all getting sort of sorted out and resolved as to which parts of which mental patterns originating where . . . but then some newbies inevitably .. more bizzarely than the last.

I was manifesting as a big joke in the future among folk in Jannah who though the my efforts now are hilarious, How such a brain wave occurred just can not make any sense: but that was the joke of the future: "ha ha ha look at us then running around like ants but trying to make sense of an impossible world: ha ha ha ha, they all so funny, they been so hard at trying to be good that the all falling over their selfs to manifest as the resemblence of black magic; ha ha ha ha ha . . . . . it is really so very comforting to know that we now is only a laugh of occassional remembrance of some dumb old story from the past; when it is hereafter in the future when we in Jannah

I am overjoyed to know

it has all been only some funny peculiarity of a planet that spun too fast a while; I hope that sun rise in the west happens soon; I am getting tired

[MinAhlilHadeeth]

dude u scarin moi man^^^^ :cry:

Lol....innit..... especially the last line.:p

Jokes....btw Mazed, wot happnd 2 ur story? Cudnt keep up wit the expectationz eh? Lol.

[- Qatada -]

:salamext:

it has all been only some funny peculiarity of a planet that spun too fast a while; I hope that sun rise in the west happens soon; I am getting tired

Nah don't wish that.. dajjal has to come be4 it yet, and peepl mite even giv up der faith.. and when the sun rises from da west - we can't ask fo 4givness from Allaah.. trus me u don't want that.

[The Ruler]

:sl:

so basikly wer discussin de signs o de Day o Judgement :? :?

ya kno 2day sum gyal in ma clas askd dat y ppl c de greek storis as myths but nt de islamic or de biblical stories

i had no i dea wt ta say ta dat :-\

:w:

[IbnAbdulHakim]

:sl:

so basikly wer discussin de signs o de Day o Judgement :? :?

ya kno 2day sum gyal in ma clas askd dat y ppl c de greek storis as myths but nt de islamic or de biblical stories

i had no i dea wt ta say ta dat :-\

:w:

becoz da greek stories are extremely old to the point that no historical evidence can be found for them however historical evidence is available for islamic events during the time of rasullulah saws and also the fact that the torah/zabur/injeel and quran all testify to the same stories strengthens it



^^ Thats my weak try at it :-\

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

:sl:

so basikly wer discussin de signs o de Day o Judgement :? :?

ya kno 2day sum gyal in ma clas askd dat y ppl c de greek storis as myths but nt de islamic or de biblical stories

i had no i dea wt ta say ta dat :-\

:w:

uno wot i wudda done, startd sum big argumnt.. it mite hav bin 32 against 1 but ive got Allah on ma side.. trus me, ive started nuff debates in RE.. sayin wotz ryt innit?

[The Ruler]

uno wot i wudda done, startd sum big argumnt.. it mite hav bin 32 against 1 but ive got Allah on ma side.. trus me, ive started nuff debates in RE.. sayin wotz ryt innit?

i always do dat :giggling:...but de fing is i didnt kno wt ta say...its tru dat Allah is on ma sde....but dis is kinda diff innit :)...im nt arguin as to wich religion is true but abt greek mythologies n stuf....kinda diff dnt ya fink :?

:w:

[IbnAbdulHakim]

uno wot i wudda done, startd sum big argumnt.. it mite hav bin 32 against 1 but ive got Allah on ma side.. trus me, ive started nuff debates in RE.. sayin wotz ryt innit?

lol sis try be careful wen u do that coz i heard dat wen discussions turn into arguments the hearts turn hard and its like tryna pour water into an upsidedown container (WHICH HAS NO HOLES IN IT :p fi-sab) so inshaAllah be soft n gentle and if they start shouting then try calm em down

[MusLiM 4 LiFe]

ohh nooo, i dont shout at dem *most of da time 8-)*, i juz annoy dem :D im good at duin dat, and at da end dey end up agreein wid me so itz all good :D

nah its not diff sis cuz come 2 think of it, ur arguin 4 wat u tink iz ryt yh, so u r defendn ur religion init..

btw bro mazed ur xplanation woz good :D iv run outa repz btw :p

[The Ruler]

:sl:

annoy dem....deyl fink *oh dis galz annoyin jus agree wid de crap she tels us so dat she leaves us alone* :heated:....no sis bein calm n rational is wts gonna help :) :)

:w: