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AvarAllahNoor
Personally i don't think i find a religion as strict as Sikhism. I have a full beard and a turban. I carry the Kirpan on my person (Ceremonial Sword) and i refrain from eating meat/smoking/drinking alcohol.
Now i have many friends of different religions (and some who don't follow any) i don't segregate myself from them. I go to the pub with them and drink juice, and they never once offer me anything other. As they know my beliefs. Now i have no problem with them eating drinking what they choose. And i don't ever feel tempted to eat meat or drink.
So the thought of some people (muslims in this case) would show me that it's their lack of self control that prevents them from going into such places.
I can say i'm free from such desires, this is the wonder of the Shabad (Word of the Lord) :)
This is an excellent basic stand point from within which to regard any issue of the integration of the Islamic community with any other. Ideally we will all become enabled to sustain that state of mind of being uneffected by environment. Then we also can learn that some of us are effected by environment at times, and to the degree of needing habitual reminders in the self regards, such as dress can provide: but at that the needful wearing of a veil by even one woman in a community causes that every women is right to so as those whom are not schooled into true belief are not able to identify whom among us is more effected by environment than another.
Many Australian Aborigines manifest an attitude as though becoming vastly effected when in fact they are rather marginally effected by the larger environment. But that is only when there is a knowable limit to the sustaining of acquiring the attitude of letting the environment give semblence of effecting. The posture is dangerous to try to falsify more so then even words for all persons. (Can anybody formulate words more truly when asking their spouse to type? I guess that is as fine as if during Prayer postures.) This is a totality of need to consider. How long can any person manifest being uneffected by the environment when there is no set time limit of the duration of a hardship been put in place.
What those whom want integration over and above other phenomena are causing, is that the removing of each veil that comes off is at an expense of a set quantity of knowable environmental consideration. That is, we each have a set quantity of such before we manifest ill health from. Unless, like Avarallahnoor, we are able to be unreceiptive by well practised self discipline. I have a five hour limit in any single difficult situation before I become distracted from immediate concerns.
The point is that integration is therefore a far easier task for myself to accomodate; but therefore, in Allah, I am accorded a greater responsiblity for enacting such tasks. As a person whom is familiar with Australian culture I can adequately communicate with brevity also, while an Arab or Pakistani, or African Muslim might be less able to discern the most suitable starting place for any need to integrate.
A bizarre thing occurred to me just the other evening. I got onto a public train and there was a person very angry at seeing me, in not being able to account himself against any Muslim. Very angry. It seemed that he had previously been deluded that he was being enabled to. He revelled in a bout of name calling, to which I just stared a bit wide eyed. Everybody on board was focussed upon him, but nobody was then yet showing any interest in the event. The ordinary Australian commuter life was simply regarding us both surreptitiously to see whom had who in the better account. The yelling man got louder and more frustrated in inablity to force me to accuse him. The Australians were impressed by this (I think that being Australian I was more afraid of the other passengers if it should happen that I accidentally accused the man: and so I focussed all my internal concentration upon not accusing him: it was hard work since there are shaytan whom try to project such upon me: but gives an explaination to my having been 'wide eyed'.)
Eventually he became intolerable to the other passengers and when he got off the train he punched the window near my head and shattered the outer sheet of glass. Then everybody had something to say to me about the event. The whole situation made me realise two significant facts: in Hijab persons in my own culture are not regarding me as culturally informed and so I have a peculiar perspective upon my own self (very advantageous in fact to learn the self by that method); and secondly there were a considerable number of persons aboard the train whom seem to have been previously experiencing being able to sustain a delusion of holding Islam as wronging them, but were now no longer able to so sustain. There was only one angry man. There was an Asian person whom got called a slope head, which painted the angry man as indiscriminately angry rather than at Muslims. There were two ordinary sort of kafir in tracksuits; and there was a bloke with all the physical signs about his biological appearance of being a true believer enabled through Aboriginal Australia. I swear that I witnessed him accept a further account in Allah, only through his witness of the event, and in accepting a full responsibility for the female kafir on board, evidenced by her eyes brightening suddenly in response to him. Clearly the man had some assistance in Allah and had learned to account well for himself. We discussed the matter until he touched upon his own projections against Islam and learned to account for. Then he made the point to me that Australian tax payers would be paying for the glass broken. This was being referred to in two contexts: the angry man was a kafir without any Australian culture yet born here, going on accent; I had my feet upon the seat in front of me and such had initially angered the man in his not being able to fault me at. My own reasoning is a bad back, and in that I have to face the fine if it arises. Yet the angry man broke the glass to cause the Australian bloke to get angry with me about damage to the train. In the long shot I accepted the glass to my account, but in regard for the other Australian fellow that he would readily have if I had not. I could have regarded that the damage to the soft furnishing is far less; but accepting the broken glass to my account I am accorded less ill reguard in having placed my feet on the seat.
It was like this sudden change occurred here in Brisbane and the ordinary Australian community suddenly started accounting any Muslim again like any other Human being whom is not within an Aboriginal Kinship system. It was a very illustrative situation for my self about the truth of our indigenous cultural right and strength. The other Australian was ordinarily a white mainstream Australian; but he actualised use of Shari'ah style accounting well, and in familiar associations. If he had reguarded me as an Australian he might have only joined in by mentioning my feet at the outset. I had not had that experience before of being watched by other Australians as though a foriegner; and I have been in veil now for two years already. The sad part of the story is, of course, that there were criminals whom falsified a semblence of being able to fault Islam, and which many Australians had fallen to.
The change had many other aligned coincidences of mass sudden change of the direction of popular culture. A road became damaged and all the shops complained to the government that not enough shoppers had driven into the city, and that exposed a large fear of low trade this Christmas! That aligned with immense stress being displayed among criminals previously cool calm and collected, and visibly less stress in the bulk of the population.
The world is changing my friends, at last the certain victory of every Soul whom Loves Earth is begining to be evidenced. Let us be all the more strict in our self discipline so as to live up the the honour of such evidence in our essential beliefs.
What is the lesson in all this for the integration debarcle there in other parts of the world?
Conditions need to have been set in place over a few generations for an occurrance like that I have witnessed. Since about 1787, I guess, when the empirical evidence of ships sailing down the coast became inescapable.
Perhaps an Australian awakening, (next is IpswichQLD this arvo?), will commence the labour necessary for that eventually required in places like Ireland. (at the Irish club they bags going last: the Irish here in Australia that is)
its a cold bright sunshiny day in the state of Queensland Australia today
and Eid al Fahr Mubarak to that
Alaikumuassalamu Warahmathuallahi Warabarakathauha